Retired concrete contractor and on my big pours I would set up overheads witch were basically a L bracket with a I hole that was tapped for a set screw . All I had to do was pull a string line from form to form set at grade and slide a 2x4 that was above the finished grade of the concrete and pull the steel staks the were attached to as we screeded . I wish I would have bought a roller screed . Two back surgeries was what I paid for being set in my ways . Your 100% right form to form is yhe right way to strike the mud off
your labor cost to grade perfect and saving concrete is basically a wash at the end of the day vs. when you just quick grade and pour a hair deep ! I have done both and the cost is pretty freaking close to the same when you compare ! Just my 2 cents.
I can’t believe you guys pour concrete for a living. No rubber boots no come alongs , your roller screed is bouncing. Hope you have a great Darby man. 😂
I think the reason the roller screeds are not used as much anymore because when I started in concrete in 1984 they were only made for commercial work. They were so big you needed heavy machinery to move them around. But I would use one now because I see they are built smaller and it doesn’t require a 10 hp engine.
We used to use vibrating screeds where we would run steel cables back to steel stakes and then the ratchet cranks to pull the screed along. This looks a lot easier
@@Christoph-sd3zi we've seen people screed that way as well, we have found roller screeds to be easiest and fastest way to screed lots of concrete in most situations
I understand that every country may do things slightly different but that looked like it was being done the hardest way possible. That screed rail setup took so much extra work with very little benefit. Just my thoughts
It actually sets up very fast and we like the screed rail because it allows us to use our roller screed and makes it so we can't dig below grade or leave humps. What country do you pour concrete in?
@@redlinemanu iv used the rail setup on different jobs before but see no value in them, I guess when you’ve learnt to do things the “traditional” way and believe that to be the best then these other methods seem strange. I’m in Australia, 90% of concrete is screeded by hand, we also just have one person on one screed. You guys in the states have so many more concreting machines and tools then we do though, iv been watching American Concretors on RU-vid for years and it’s mind blowing some of the stuff you have over there.
@jordandouvartzidis1745 yeah there are lots of great concreters down under. Seen some good hard workers there. In the US we try to us machines as much as possible but almost every job requires some hand screeding
Fabricate bar chairs in my workshop is a break from everything else. Not paying for such simple tech, and as you say it has been around near a hundred years....
Hand rodding would be faster, though a little harder on the back and I never liked how the roller would fling cream back on the finished surface. If this is an advertisement it's funny that you have a Bunyan handle and tube ends on the roller :)
We like the Bunyan, that was one of the first, our homemade one is a Frankenstein screed with different parts. We find the roller screed to be faster and when the mud shoots over the type we will just go back and screed it again
Yes you can, we do it all the time and have never had any issues. If you are worried about your rails sinking we also have grade plates that slip onto the rebar and keep it from sinking in softer soil.
The way you absolutely sold kicking down the first one vs making sure you stepped on top of the other was comedy gold lol if you’re going to do this kind of stuff you have to at least make sure your not so noticeable when applying intent
Forms are probably set to grade but they double check elevation with laser. They probably had a bad experience in the past. Somebody probably moved the forms and elevation was off in the past and now they double check with laser
People don't like innovation. I've worked on high rise construction for over a decade and been in dozens and dozens of pours and nobody likes to be told how to pour easier or faster. They'd rather kill their guys and "tough it out". Btw, no roller screed in high rise construction in Los Angeles. I saw them years ago. Nothing new, but people are hard headed and stuck in their ways
My father in-law did it this way 27 years ago. I can level a driveway without getting out of my skid steer and get within 1/2". The time saved pays for the extra concrete and I always use extra concrete. When you screed it at 3.5" and pack your still going to be shy on 4" concrete. I can't even count how many driveways I pulled out where customers said they were 4" and average was 3.5". If anyone rips out my driveway they will always be a bit over then under.
Agree.. I can grade a driveway to within 1/4 to 1/2” with the track loader in no time just having the guys checking heights with a string line. On flat grades with a laser we don’t even touch a cummy or shovel anymore.
@dbconstruction8904 we like to get it right on because a 1/2" low over 1000 Sq ft is an extra yard and a half thrown away, which could be an extra 200 to 250 bucks. Depending on how much you pour per year, you could be throwing tens of thousands of dollars away.
I like the idea of these screed chairs for solo work or with the help of another guy, my days of pouring for a living are over but still do my own concrete
Nobody pours curb at a 1" slump. Takes too long to place and its difficult to close up in form without massive amounts of honeycomb. Pour a 5" slump, fast, with 2° accelerator and we finish 3 - 9 yard loads a day of curb....every day.
