So grateful to be able to watch these videos since I wasn't there in person. Will aim to attend next year!! Thanks, Dave. You are ... well, let's just say I'm a big fan, my friend.
With the exception of the great discovery of an LMHR, I find arguments between the two camps silly. Some people thrive on one diet, others on the opposite. Each person needs to find what keeps them the healthiest. This is done through trial and error and exposure to all sides of the argument. I personally appreciate both sides and everything in between. You are all brilliant people and we continue to learn a great deal from you through this medium which did not even exist just a few decades ago. For me, the search is not to find a diet that existed eons ago and replicate it. It is to find a diet that works TODAY (with all the food alterations we have now) to extend our lives beyond that which nature allowed in antiquity. We ALL want to do better. To extend our lives beyond what we thought possible, don't we? If not, why not just go back to being scavengers? That came before hunters...why choose the paleo era? Obviously, because it was better. Well, maybe today we can do even better than that with the help of science and rigorous study. Thank you all. Your tireless efforts are not unappreciated.
Absolutely effing STELLAR!! 💥💪 Will be contacting Dr. Diamond privately in the next day or two to discuss the influence of thyroid hormones - specifically T3 - on serum lipid levels. We are long overdue to have a nuanced discussion about this in the keto community. Looking forward to your conference next year, Dave. I didn't come to this first one, but I won't miss the second one, my friend.
LDL on its own means nothing It’s inflammation that caused heart attacks My LDL is very high after 18m keto but my HDL is 3x that and I have zero inflammation
Hi Dave. Is that fasting applies to ApoB as well? I just had my blood drawn and I was fasted for only 4.5 hours. I wasn’t happy with my result, 1.13 g/L. Thanks for making this video.
He should stick to his field. Raised cholesterol is the greatest predictor of heart disease,full stop. Get it down at all costs. Take statins like I did if you can't control it by diet and save your life. My heart attack and bypass was 26 years ago when I was 57 and cholesterol through the roof!
Tell me, what was your habbits before the heart atack? Did you eat low carb? Did you exercice? How was your stress? Your sleep? I'm really curious, don't get me wrong. Thanks
weel it sounds like the discussion is calling keto fairly new, but wait, 125 years ago there were no processed foods, no white sugars like we have, no gmo foods or wheats and rices and manmade carbs that are processed, humans ate animal, cheese, plants and Cancers and diabetes were much much lower, than now in our so called SCIENTIFIC age... the type of hysteria about cholesterol didn't cause this panic and medications that are hurting other organs such as statins, the sciences are all lopsided due to the medical powers that be. We have all learned this. The drug manufacturer's are in control...and we are all dying as a result of the greed. Face it and eat fresh non processed veggies, meats etc and cut the carbs, they all turn to sugar
I have read many books, I listened to many RU-vid videos by many of the worlds leading gurus and health experts but nothing came close to the hidden herbs by anette ray. I recommend everyone giving it a read.
Everything has hit the nail on the head.... Also, reading the hidden herbs by anette ray helped out a ton for me, I recommend finding it to everyone reading this
Seems like you have to be your own doctor these days… i found the hidden herbs by anette ray pretty helpful. it reveals natural remedies that have been used for centuries. Highly recommend it if youre looking to take control of your health.
I think I fall into the Lean Mass Hyper-responder type. I have been carnivore for five years and keto five years before that. I have triglycerides of 0.6mmol/l (53mg/dl) HDL 2.4mmol/l (93mg/dl) and LDL of 4.5mmol/l (174mg/dl). I have had a CAC scan and it was zero. I am nearly 62 years old. I have a strong FH of CVD, dad first MI at 48yo. Do you know of any research teams in Australia (my location) who are looking for people to follow. The more research and information we have on low carbohydrate eating the better to re-educate the masses and stop the fearmongering.
This is just nonsense no element of cholesterol linked to death has ever been true except in tiny sub 100,000 participant studies, look up: "Higher LDL-Cholesterol is Associated with Greater Longevity" "inverse association between low-density lipoprotein cholesterol and mortality" "Total cholesterol and all-cause mortality by sex and age: a study among 12.8 million adults"
So... the problem seems to be, there isn't enough data on how a healthy person functions on a diet that has been the norm for all human species (plural) for millions of years minus the last let's say 20.000 years with the onset of year round carbohydrate availability. Of course nobody pays money to figure out how "healthy" works.. maybe insurance companies might have an interest in that?
I love love that you and Nick are really shedding new light on Cholesterol and lipoproteins. Dave, you are correct to pause and reflect on statistical methods used to model something.. this can be so problematic across so many areas of science. Keep pausing and reflecting. An observation I would like to make is that using isolated particles or molecules as measures/biomarkers/causes of mortality all cause or heart disease is super problematic in the absence of systemic view of the roles these particles play. C27H46O is a molecule of mammalian life that has so so so many roles in our bodies that it is extremely difficult to tease things apart. You know all these roles very well, I'm sure as they stretch from repair, to building blocks for cell membranes, to precursors for much of our hormones, to the essential building block of Vit D. If we then look at Lipoproteins it is even more amazing since they themselves have complex functions with in our bodies as carriers essential to enabling everything. ApoB is a marker on the lipoprotein that allows it to be recognized by cells in the body that want something from the lipoprotein carrier. What is missing in this type of analysis is an appreciation of how lipoproteins rise and fall for so many reasons it is hard to even keep track of them. This is like trying to hit a moving target in a system so complex that it rivals our own galaxy. I wish you guys would take a step back and follow the path of Dr. Nadir Ali (Cardiologist) who spends so much time teasing out the actual functions and behavior of these essential molecules of life, rather than constant analysis of associative or correlative relationships with Disease X. Take a step back look at the bigger picture and that will provide the important answers we are all seeking. THe body makes all these molecules for a reason. There is no way that they are causal. Insulin does damage to the human body when in excess, but ultimately it is not causal. The root cause is something else. Nick takes about ApoB in a causal chain.. and already I know that he has lost sight of human evolution and is now following the path of allopathic medicine which cannot ever see the big picture.
There will be a GENE that protects the heart. I have that per my DNA tests. After he wins the Nobel, they will isolate that gene and create new medicines that actually work. Mark my words. I hope Mr. Feldman becomes a billionaire! But I was shown years ago, by 23andme, that I'm one of those folks with the genes. It's part of the longevity gene collection. My mother died at 97 from covid, her sister is 102. My father died at 91 from colon cancer after a lifetime of alcohol addiction. His father died at 99. No heart disease in either one. This is GENETIC. Test those participants for longevity genes!
I know it is always recommended that “ we check with our medical doctor” but that is usually why we are all here. I am a nurse and my medical doctor and many medical doctors are not up to date cholesterol and nutrition. A visit to your medical doctor for any issue usually results in a prescription for a medication. Thank you for the information and research you all provide!
Dave, do you know if anyone has had eye issues related to high cholesterol?, trying to see if a vitreous hemorrhage I had was due to my high cholesterol, which they say is caused by cholesterol.
SATURATED FAT AND CHOLESTEROL ARE WHAT DRIVES UP TOTAL CHOLESTEROL AND LDL .... AND ANYBODY WHO SAYS ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY IS A QUACK WHO KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT NUTRITION
I'm taking obesity boards October 22, will be in touch after that, it's so interesting to study one thing for the boards and believe another, lol 😂. I would also share my other ideas regarding streamlining important research to make it easy to access. Will email you soon.
Hi Dave, I'm an endocrinologist, fellowship program director and have been following your work plus almost everyone's research who is going to be presenting. I have an idea of a presentation that I would like to do at Co Sci meeting, but not sure how to reach you to discuss. Is there an email you can share and I can share my contact information to discuss my idea. Waiting to hear back.
Hi @uzmahaider4780 -- yes, feel free to email info@cosci.org . We'll be opening the Citizen Science Speaker applications in the coming weeks, of course, so keep an eye out for that as well.
Good conversation from the 3 panelists! They have so much in-depth perspectives and insight on pharmaceutical research, Cardiovascular, Lipid and Metabolic systems. They know their facts well, can communicate the complex into simple understandable language that leads to a profound conclusion for us non-medical folks. Much appreciated!!!
So if arteriosclerosis is not axiomatically driven by high blood lipids, what then causes it. High organic acids ripping through the vasculature? High systemic inflammation? If it is caused by high systemic inflammation what are the top three most common drivers of that systemic inflammation? (Leaky gut? Immune dysfunction? High load of chronic infections like HSV, EBV, CMV?) Please research this aspect of the problem and let us know. Thank you for all your hard work thus far.
Peter is a gem. Smart, informed and above all he asks interesting questions. I've read lots of people's answers over the years but Peter's questions have got me thinking far more about some issues - some I was already academically qualified in - than many of the clever answers I've got from other people.
I recently was told that I needed to go onto statins as my ldl is too high (4.4). He didn’t bother to asked me about my diet. I told him I don’t eat junk food, not fatty food, lots of vegetables and has maintained a very healthy diet within the last two years. And on top of that I exercise between 4-6 days a week and I have never felt better in my life. He simply told me that unfortunately it’s the gene? I am 47yr and compared to my friends i feel like I am in my thirties. He never bothered to explain to me that my triglycerides is low (1.0) and my HDL is high (1.2), which puts me in the “isolated LDL” category. Thank you Dr. David, otherwise I would have taken the statins.
The issue that isn't addressed that I'm dying (no pun intended) to know is: what about those folks who already have plaque and a high, or moderate, CAC score but have been following the low carb guidelines for a number of years, resulting in low trig's., high HDL & LDL as well as large LDL particle size? Should THEY be concerned? Or might statins be a consideration for THEM?
Hopefully the citizens learn about real science and not assumptions. Dave, please stop assuming ketosis and "keto" without measuring. Assuming keto/ketones/ketosis is not science. You used the word "keto" 66 times in your paper without measuring a single ketone. Is that good science?
