I think I'm a five that shares many traits of the nine. Like a five that's very cerebral and intellect based but also very soft and open to opinions of others. It makes sense because Im a 594 and 2nd volition, which makes me seem more nine-eqsue than regular 5s.
I’m 4w5 self-preserved and I don’t know if it’s possible to be evenly between both traits or I would be just not digging enough, does anyone out there experience the same?
5+9: The Observer Double withdrawn. Paring that is the most introverted and removed from action. This is the invisible person or the hermit archetype. They are wise in a quiet way and don’t dispense their knowledge needlessly. Probably one the least likely pairing to fancy a lavish lifestyle. Like to take their time to understand things their own way. Constantly aware of their energy levels and want to preserve their fuel. Tend to be curious about a plethora of subjects but may not necessarily delve deep into all of them. Their shyness can put a damper on their intelligence. May run the risk of disengaging with the world as means of protecting their integrity. Very passive and does not appear proactive or full of energy at first. May become argumentative if they hold strong opinions but don’t push them too much if there is a possibility for conflict. Want to understand concepts and information their own way. Can easily disappear in social settings. It’s like they are not physically present. Avarice is managed through limiting their interaction with the outside world and making themselves unimportant. Whenever they feel anxiety or anger, they want to retreat into their world to process the emotion. Hide their discomfort and their identity to a certain extent. Feels overwhelmed very easily by external stimulation and expectations. It’s quite easy for them be disengaged with the present situation and be in their own world. The 9 fix helps the core 5 have a broader and a non-judgmental perspective. The 5 fix helps the core 9 by going deeper into their understanding of people and things, narrowing the scope.
This enneagram institute article is terrible! Its not talking about type 5s, its talking about a 70 yo physics professor. And it kept dissing 9s and portraying 5s as the superior, without mentioning ways 9s are superior or gifted.
That was great! I'm an infp and I'm not really sure if I'm 4 or 5. Cause i have both of these enneagram traits. But when i did the enneagram test it told me I'm 5 and i got this result twice. So does it mean that i can be 5?
Alexis your advice about balancing the introversion and extroversion and having clarity and taking action really helped me get out of my self pity depression and do something to change my situation. I thought being clear on what I want was enough. I didn’t realize thinking about what I want and learning about what I want is not the same as doing what I want. And I want to have an impact by sharing my art.
it's of my opinion that 5's that say they have Te might actually be 3's. 5's are Ti users whereas 3's are Te users. well there definitely more likely to be anyway. as an INFJ i have a Fe Ti balance. this is because the second and third functions are fairly even in ability to use. whereas you tend to be blind to the fourth one and mostly use ur first one as a means to take in the world. that at least what i've observed
I get the points in the beginning about time and energy. However, maybe it's just me, but the advice about needing to help others sounds like advice that might be more suited for 2s. I don't think I ever go out of my way to help someone who hasn't expressed a need for my help. I share ideas in conversation because for me, sharing ideas is the point of conversation. Most conversation sounds like gossip or frivolous materialism to me, and I just don't engage much when that's the topic. I engage with people who can discuss and share ideas, because otherwise, a conversation is mostly a waste of my time. I don't need anything material or emotional from anyone, and I don't really have anything material or emotional to share with anyone. I have my knowledge and ideas, for those who are able to appreciate it.
No matter which comparison I see, I am always a little of both 5 and 9. I test as a 5 usually, but suspect that I am a 9. These comparisons honestly confuse me more.
I'm a female type 5-4 and INTJ and a Christian. Your videos are great! (Look! A compliment from me, the Ice Princess!) . Maybe, just maybe, this is the place where I (or better yet, you) can answer my burning question: what about 5s / Introverts and children? 1. I am married, no kids. Even just visualizing myself having kids could give me a panic attack, and I'm not a panic attack type of woman. The idea of having kids is *unthinkable* to me. My reasons for this are all 5/Introvert things... is this common to 5s and introvert females? This kid thing has been a huge issue in my life... Anyone else? Sorry to drop this here, totally unrelated to the topic. But I don't know where else to put it.
I've found that the best way i can give value to people and feel, valued? for it, is through my business. So yeh, i guess its a good outlet for that, just depends on what your business is.
Thank you for your comment! The “base” is the most important (if aim understanding your comment correctly). And based (pun intended) of your screen name and peaking at your channel, I would go with 4 :). Thoughts?
I’m more confused than ever. Lol. I absolutely checked more boxes for 9’s (60/40). But the statements that seemed too aloof made me shake my head and had to check the box for 5’s.
is it possible to be INTP and 4w5 at the same time? I'm definitely more into a Thinking type, however I am more into making an impact in the world, having an identity.
They are 2 different systems. All things are possible :). I did a video on relationships between MBTI and Enneagram with links in description that are super interesting Id you are into that kind of thing.
Oh my GOODNESS, the amount of screenshots - that one got me and nope for hugs 😂😂😂 This was truly insightful and cleared things up for me in such a concise and strangely feel-good way. 5W4, sure of it at last, but 50/50 INFP INFJ. Great video
Well pretty equal on both 😅 for a few I didint relate to either or it was pretty equal for both. The in stress and in growth clear 5w4 but Im an Infp and tend to go feelings first then does it make logical sense. I guess whichever I am I have a strong wing
I am a relatively healthy (said humbly) 582sp male and think dating or being in business with a healthy 5sp female would could be amazing. I have trityped (for myself) all the significant past and present folks I know and not one female is a 5xx, though one is a x5x. Four males on my list are 5xx's. The key is...healthy. Healthy (from any Etype) is the key to harmony, cooperation, authenticity, truth, etc etc etc. But, partnering with a healthy 5...large advantage for a 5, methinks. Thumbs up on the video!
Books do a terrible job of describing 5s (genius, hermit, minimalist). I attended E panels where 5s appeared confident, strong, energetic, opinionated, dynamic and vocal. They took up space. In contrast, the 6 panel were so quiet, unassuming, even dull (which I feel is how books mistakenly describe 5s). 5s are risk takers (once they’ve deeply learned what they focused on). 6s are not risk takers. Both can be highly intelligent, but there’s a huge difference. 5s innovate with it.
I don’t get those negative descriptions at all from just meeting you. I get competence, know/how, can-do, in control, even warm vibes from you. I’ve seen great leadership energy in 5s too, and a wry sense of humour. If there was a problem, I would trust you to research/contemplate and fix it. Rapidly with no fuss. 5s rock!
So happy to see many female 5s here 👋 For the longest time, i too feel i cannot fit in, and i give people the impression im very composed and chill when problems arise. At my job, people tell me i should smile more and express more warmth... I have no idea how to do just that. It's not natural to me at all.... I'm glad I'm not alone.
I am an INTP 5w6 sx/sp, imagine my shock when I could barely find any sx doms or anything about sx dom 5s on the internet. I got mistyped as 4w5 multiple times too. But I guess counter type isn't well studied, or many people are mistypes. I identify as a male, but I am biologically female. I also got the whole "You're cold" or got dismissed purely because I was biologically female. I was always expected to be irrational. I have been told I am "No fun allowed", but only by people who refuse to enter into my domain of interests. I could go on, but this is youtube and I don't expect feedback on this post.
ENTP sexual/social 5 wing 4 male. Took me long time to understand and get the wiring on my mind. I am definitely hypersensitive on the inside, deeply scared of rejection, correlates with my tritype (528). Most of my life I live i a deep nostalgic fantasy land and explore and better understand where my emotions came from. When you meet me I can be extreme sociable, but always for short periods of time. Mental fixation of always planning forward, constant research and fear of being competent. But mostly not feeling grounded and over romantic view when I meet interesting people. Thank you for the amazing post, very interesting how other fives deal.
