are they worth it? depends if you want the full retro experience. alot of old games will run on win 10. get a cheap ish 6th gen intel and you can use a glide wrapper to emulate 3dfx. better performance that a retro pc, cheaper. pcem will also allow you to emulate old pentium hardware and voodoo, then allow you to run win98. but full experience get old hardware and voodoo.
It is subjective. I guess the question is really for if you're into hardware rather than just gaming. As you say there are much easier ways of doint that!
The M2 was my first chip .. Came with the Presario 2262 I used to have.. The machine came with the crappy SiS 5597/5598 VGA.. The fond memories I have of this crappy computer beats the best I have on my current beast rig lol
I didn't know about this module. i'll certainly buy one soon. But when i look at the description you say "Olivetti Xana 53-120 (now 200)" You put a Pentium 200 inside the Xana 53-120 and it works ? Seems to be out of range like the manual says 166Mhz maximum How did you make this ?
I use PowerMac G3 333Mhz 1MB cache beige tower with MacOS 8.6 and 3Dfx Game Wizard Voodoo2 as of 2024. PSU was recapped, brand new HDD scsi. This pc is awesome
Its a cool machine. I might have an eMac coming which will be an improvement. Think those had gf2 and faster in them so will be cool to see what ot has.
Subscribed for more good content. In 2002 I had Pentium 3 1ghz and geforce 2gts. Gts was really fast. It runs playable layer demanding games such as Painkiller, Doom3, nfs:mw
Hi, great video, and thanks for calling the 5x86 fastest skt 3 cpu! That legal trouble with intel you mentioned, took up almost their entire budget to win against intel. This left cyrix with few funds for R&D going forwards. Since their 486 maths co-processor was reasonable, they stuck with it. Thus, significantly reducing dev cost of the 6x86. The 5x86 you mentioned was actually significantly faster than an intel 486 at same clock rate. But it came with most of the optional performance enhancements OFF by default, as many motherboards didn't support these features well. In a fully compatible m/b though I found the 5x86 was 20% faster than intel at same clock rate with optimisations off. And about 33% faster with them ALL on. So my 5x86-120Mhz performed like a 160Mhz 486, or a P90. I loved that chip so much I bought 3 of them, still got one of them now for a keep sake!
my dualboot xp 32bit/vista 64bit build has an i7 3930k oced to 4.7ghz 16gbs of ddr3 2400mhz in quad channel and first gen titans in sli all hooked up to a dell p991 trinitron display running at 2560x1920 using custom res and a older dell 30 inch lcd thats 2560x1600
I had an Olivetti XANA 233MMX. 1997. 32MB Ram, 4gb HDD, 2MB S3 ViRGE, Win 95 later upgraded to Win2kPro. Had the same monitor, speaker base, microphone, keyboard etc, but it was a tower case, same colours with the cdrom/floppy & same power button, was a very good quality pc.
Those Screen Savers are pretty Wild Man. Screen savers are actually making a comeback with more people adopting OLED tech, that's the reason I use one myself :D
I have this card also. Bought it a couple of years ago. I am yet to use it in a build, as I want genuine OPL3. I may put this in a build alongside a soundcard that has OPL3.
Cool, though personally I think the general midi set sounds way way better than opl 3. More on par with a waveblaster or a roland sc7 or something like that. Running 2 cards should be simple though 😁
If you still have the original machine with the borked BIOS, you should be able to reflash the BIOS using the image from this new one, assuming they have the same motherboard. Soldering may be involved This is actually an industry standard form factor called LPX. It was pretty common in the mid-late 90's. Olivetti machines are thin on the ground on this side of the pond, a few rebadged AT&T machines notwithstanding. Edit: Ahhh, that Oddball sound card is some Olivetti weirdness. I suspect they did that to recover some real estate on the mother board and use deadspace in the case.
Yes cool I thought about that. At some point I will try removing and reading the chip off this one, would be cool to get the other one up and running again😁
15:07 Not boring me at all! I love this kind of thing, I’ve got tons of old mainboards that would fit right in with some of this stuff. 18:51 An X****! 👌🏻 The AGP variant is not very common, they’re also not the most expensive AGP cards in the world but I’d love to have one in my collection (edited as to not give the reveal away)
I'm not surprised that the lower clocked Ti200 can match or beat the GF2 Ti in higher resolutions and/or 32-bit color, since it has what NVIDIA called Lightspeed Memory Architecture which greatly helped memory bandwidth efficiency. Essentially NV20 had multi-channel pipelined memory addressing, whereas NV15 had basically one large memory bus that could only do one operation at a time. It's an interesting match-up though because SGRAM has some pretty nifty performance enhancements for graphics operations, helping somewhat off-set the GF2 architecture's relative inefficiency. Fun video!
I'm pretty sure that someone else has already mentioned it but in case they haven't the format of desktop computer where the cards are on a riser card is called LPX form factor. It was used up until the release of the Pentium 2 machines, where having the riser bifurcate the interior of the case would have caused issues with air flow. LPX was followed by a form factor called NLX, where the riser is on the edge of the motherboard, and usually is locked in place with a latching system.
very similar to my first computer, only my processor was an AMD K5 133, at first it also only had 16 mb of RAM, but later expanded to 32 mb. the video card was an S3 trio with 2 MB, and the hard drive was 1.1 GB. at the end of 1997, it was already a rather modest computer, but it was all I could afford at that time, but even despite the outdated configuration, it gave me many positive emotions, it's a pity that later I had to sell it too cheaply in order to invest money and buy a more modern one computer
Very interesting video, thanks for uploading! I also recently bought an ECS K7S5A-Pro on eBay, where this board was offered brand new for €35 + shipping. I bought the same board second-hand a few years ago, it worked but the temperature sensor was defective, it always showed me -55.5 degrees Celsius ;-) I also built myself a retro computer, for my project I use an AMD Geode NX 1750 (recognized as Athlon XP Mobile 1600). I have a few other Athlons and Durons in my collection, but the speed of the NX 1750 is completely sufficient for me. The operating system is Windows 98 SE, and I use an Nvidia Geforce FX 5200 as the graphics card. For memory, I use 128 MB SD-RAM, but I have also experimented with DDR-RAM and different memory sizes. Unfortunately, the system is not as stable as I would have liked. One of my favorite games (Warhogs) regularly freezes after playing a few levels. Even if the system is running for a long time without me doing anything, it freezes. I have no idea why this is happening. It can't be the power supply, I use a very good Seasonic power supply. Maybe it's due to small incompatibilities with the Geode CPU? Next I'll try a different Athlon or Duron. But I've often found in the past that it's not that easy to build a stable retro PC, even with different hardware :-( What are your long-term experiences with your system?
Thanks for watching! I think its a fact that reto machines in general can be problematic, I have a lot of machines that have been tempremental. I think all you can do is swap out components and maybe check for bios updates and hopefully it will stabilise. I have had a lot of issue like this and with a few hardware variations hopefully you can pin it down. Its just a fact of life for retro computer fans I think.
@@66mhzbrain Thank you for the quick reply. Yes, I agree with you completely. It really can be the small things that make a retro PC run stably. Strangely enough, it didn't seem like that to me back when this hardware was up to date. OK, Windows 98 SE wasn't the most stable system, and neither was its successor Windows ME. But in general, Windows 98 was more stable than it is now, when I'm trying to put together a stable retro system ;-) On the other hand.... life would be boring without challenges. I'll keep testing and hope that in the end I have a really good retro PC system that runs stably. Maybe I should try an Intel Pentium system, maybe that will run more stably than Socket 462 systems. I wish you continued fun and success with your computer tinkering.
@@ilovealbundy Its frustrating but the reward comes when you do get a system stable 😁, good luck with yours! I hope it resolves itself and brings hours of fun!
@@66mhzbrain if the chassis isn’t grounded, then the possibility of a static charge touching all the contact points at once has the potential of making the card unhappy.
This brings back memories! Got my first new, complete system back in the day, Pentium 4 with 2 Ghz but only a Geforce 4 MX440. I didn't know that these were lacking shaders even the Geforce 3 Ti had, so felt kinda bummed out and very jealous of some of my friends, who were able to afford the Geforce 4 Ti 4200! Still had a blast and spent way too much gaming instead of paying attention in school. I upgraded to a Radeon 9700 at some point, I think I still have it in a box somewhere...
Nice build. Should be a great XP workhorse. Back in the day I had a gaming beast based on Intel Qx9650, and SLI 8800 GTS 512. I am annoyed that I gave away one of those GPUs and have only one now.
Haha, yes it seems that way. Ive never run into this kind of thing before, I just went modern when I read they had to change the driver to get the most out of the gf 3, they did seem to work better as you go back.
I wasn't a PC gamer at this point in time and the naming is pretty confusing. nVidia really love doing that don't they? Just naming cards whatever they feel like regardless of performance relative to their own cards.
Haha, yes it seems that way. Probabaly why I was always chose red or other until recently. Think the only nvidea I had back then was a riva 128 and that came with a dell.
Unless you oc a 1 core cpu the pc will run into a cpu bottleneck pretty fast. If you get nearly the same results no matter the resolution my guess would be that is what happening. But hard to know for sure without some overlay like riva tuner can give or a 2nd monitor for stats. Also in all my benchmarks the newest drivers always seem to perform worse, even with newer cards like geforce 6000 series, but can have added features like a temp reading etc.
@@66mhzbrain Yeah sure but the results speak for themselves and i have no way of judging how well your setup works, if you installed all the motherboard drivers and disabled all unneeded ports, what chipset it uses, if a sound card was involved etc. Just "Its a 2.6 ghz p4." isn't saying all that much. Im not saying its that, im just offering an idea. What you do with it is yours.
The Geforce 2 Ti was a 180-150mm die shrink, but it looks like the Kelvin architecture was always 150mm - and the Geforce 3 Ti200 was a sneaky underclock to use poorly binned chips
I really liked the GF 3 TI200 and GF 4 TI4200 back in the day because they had acceptable prices and could be overclocked to the speed of their bigger and more expensive brothers the TI500 and TI4600.
@@getlingganyooger well gpu driver I have to tweak it to be able to work with windows xp. For bios I used a gaming motherboard from 2014, soninstalling windows xp was a no brainer, used easy2boot app, and then install all drivers with snnapy drive app, only I did install my gpu driver and sound card dirver manually and thats it works great!!
