Good catch! There are a lot of burners with 12 or more jets. I've done 12 but found that 8 or 10 are best. That gives my burners a good efficiency. I actually hit on 8 because I covered 4 of 12 on a whim. Keep in mind that I use sqirt cheese cans. They are smaller diameter than standard beer cans.
You said an .0135 hole was used and you're thinking of .0125 size hole, I like how you DIY, I'm looking at perforated stainless for a multipurpose windscreen and pot stand over an Altoid perlite tin. I'm having fun, this is all new, Best
Great question. Technically it is a penny stove because, as you saw the center fill hole is covered be a metal disc. It doesn't have to be covered. I do to better manage the burn rate. Uncovered it will tend to be faster. I designed it to be optimized for fuel heat transfer with the "penny" on the hole. I haven't tested with it uncovered. Guess I'm not done. Thanks for asking.
Good catch. I've made a couple other videos about the burners. Usually mention or show the can. This is a Walmart Cheese Wow. Also used Easy Cheese. I will add a note in the description. Thanks!
Also, I'm curious how this performs in cooler weather. Does it take longer to "bloom" with increased volume that needs to be heated to pressurize? That could be an interesting test
I haven't tested in cold weather. From what I've seen on RU-vid, colder temps don't have much effect on alcohol burners. Might need a couple ml's more priming fuel. Could be a challenge to get valid results; lots of factors. I don't hike when tremp is going below 35F. But I will definitely try it later this year. Oh... and when I used a liquid fuel Optimus stove it burned great in 20F.
Thanks! I'm a little surprised at how it burned. I've enlarged the jets from 1.25 to 1.35mm. Doesn't seem like much but small mods tend to make significant changes to performance on these burners. l hope to test and post updated results In a few days. Check back. Cheers.
Well done. Tennis balls have been used like this for years. But where I tend to camp, the ground is often very mushy. So I looked for something else that would spread my weight over a big area. Being a DIY guy, making something is 90% of the fun. Thanks for commenting.
We made these for our west coast trail adventure and they didn't disappoint. Took less roughly 10 minutes to make one. They worked in sand, mud, tiny rock gravel. (I went for sewing instead of glue) thank you for the video.
That's great. Makes me happy that you made them and they worked. After one glued "foot" came apart on a recent hike, I stitch them too. Thanks for watching and sharing your comment.
I get that. But with the "legs" pushed in the ground (3-4 cm) it's actually very stable with the Petrel pot. Less so with the 900ml titanium pot in the video. Also less stable in very light soil. Still better than some other versions. Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers.
Jolly good, 2.5mm stainless? Old broken bike spokes? Either way, there's a trick where you get a piece of broken fire brick, shape it how you like or don't bother Make it about the size of a solid fuel tablet and soak it in meths You can carry it around in an appropriate pill bottle or similar with the meths in Then the easiest pot stand is just the folding solid fuel one Just pull it out of the bottle and use it as though it were solid fuel Zero effort untidy solution
I bought the stainless steel rods but I love using old bike spokes! Excuse my American POV... "soak it in meths"? How long does it burn? Can it boil 2-3 cups water from 18C? thanks for commenting.
@@tomlovesdiy from what I gather it's about the same as a hexamine tablet the same size as the lump of firebrick, I think it's a few hours to soak in, so storing it in a plastic tub with a big lid, let's say 2" cylindrical maybe 3" high with an air tight lid and submerged in meths - just ball park, and that phrase works over here even though we don't play ball Fish it out to use it, drop it back in
A lot of people like the Triangia. Certainly a well made burner. And I particularly like the screw on top. The triangle pot stand is cool, too. I might make something similar for my squirt cheese can burners. My stoves out perform the Triangia in several metrics; weight, size, cost, time to boil, total burn time, and efficiency. For example, my latest version boils 2 cups 65F water in 4:30 and burns for 9 minutes on 1 ounce of denatured alcohol. The stand, priming pan and aluminum foil windscreen total weight is 2.5 ounces. Costs is $3 and a bit of time. All that said, DIY isn't for everyone. And even though I really love to design and make things, there are several gear items I buy rather than make. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Hey. It took me a few years... and several other designs. Without the Firemaple Petrel pot I'd still be using an old one. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Shoot, I just tossed some old T-shirts. I should have saved one for my pillow. I don't find that my pad slips downhill, but that I slip downhill on top of my pad because my sleeping bag is slick on the outside. Any suggestions for that?
I use a lightweight non-slip rug pad. Online for under $10. There are a couple different types. All are rubbery mesh. I've seen vids of people putting small spots of seal sealer on their pad's ridges. Another thing I haven't done but considered is adding a couple of straps like those used on quilts. More work... sewing and all. But you won't forget to pack it. Thanks for watching and your question. Tom
I live in Austria and a very popular network SPAR has these wooden spoons and forks you can grab for free to eat some ready-meals available in store. I've been taking them for hikes many times now and I am planning to use these for 3-5 day hikes. It weighs nothing, is biodegradable in case I lose it (doesnt happen usually) and works amazingly well.
First, I love it that RU-vid gives people thousands of km from me access to my videos. And I really enjoy getting comments from them. Nothing like Spar near me - USA North Carolina. Mostly plastic knives, spoons and forks. A subscriber suggested I check an Asian market. Nothing. So, being a DIY guy, I have made wooden spoons. Working on a video. Thanks for viewing and commenting.
I just seen the original DIY guide and had same thoughts on JB Weld, but my idea was to try spot welding. With the thickness of those sheets it's like the putting battery cells together in series. Granted, a spot welder is extra cost and not something easy to just pick out of home depot et such 😁 The pro would be no extra weight.
While pop rivets only add a few grams and are really easy, I think that a spot welder would work nicely. Wish I had one and knew how to use it. I think I'll do a little research. thanks
Good question. The first one I made was only glued. Under stress at a campsite the bond failed. So I stitched them. I think it's not necessary if it's stitched with some overlap and a good quality polyester thread. Together glue and stitching is 100% secure. Thanks for watching and commenting. Tom
The Fancy Feast stove is made with a piece of tomato paste can and a Fancy Feast cat food can ( or Vienna Sausage can) and either some fiberglass tape wrapped around the piece of tomato paste can or a piece of carbon felt. Put the tomato paste can with both ends removed into the cat food can after wrapping it with fiberglass tape for a wick. Works well. I used the fiberglass tape as the wick. It doesn’t need a holder for the pot. The pot sits on top. Make a small hole near the top edge of the tomato can to prevent the pot getting stuck to it. Costs almost nothing if you have some fiberglass tape. Cheaper than carbon felt.
Haven't made one but have seen a few RU-vid videos. I like the simplicity; no stand required. When I worked on my stove, my goal was to reach theoretical optimal efficiency, make it super rugged, small, light and easy to use. I believe I achieved the goals. I calculate efficience at about net 50%. Most of the stoves/burners are around 30% based on boile and burn times shown in the tests. I bought some carbon felt - yes its pricey. Might try incorporating it into a cheese can stove. Thanks for the comment!
The sleeping bag seems to better hold in body heat because it’s closed. When you move with a quilt you sometimes let in cold air. Is it worth the weight difference? That’s up to you.
Agree. I see the gap issue in every quilt review I see except for the really expensive Zen Bivy. Will be using an REI Magna 30 this weekend. First time. My design adds about 3 ounces with fabric, Climashield, and velcro. Seems there are now a lot of people advocating for quilts and claiming they are superior to bags. That's why I tested. I think the 3F warmer my back was in the bag version is worth the weight. Also, think the Climashield resists compression much better than down. At least it "bounces back" and lofts up again as soon as weight is removed. I'm thinking of making one, last bag... Using a packable down throw gets me 700FP down and sewn through baffles. I'm going to get some 800-850 FP down, make it with vertical baffles, and use Climashield for the bottom and footbox. Thinking of making the bottom layer removeable. Same for a hood. Think I can get it down to 18-24 ounces and be good between 30F and 50F. Long reply to a brief comment! Thanks for watching.
I really wanted to like it. But why didn't I like it? So many reasons... As my hiking buddy Neighbor Dave said, it's just a large bivy. It ws very small inside. I'm onlyu 5'8' (1.27m) on a good day. The only way I could sit up was to have my back to the door. Had to practically crawl on my belly through the tiny door. It was difficult to get a good, tight pitch. It packs bigger than it should (Dynema). Very narrow at the foot end. I've decided that 26 square feet (2.4 sq meters) is the minimum useable floor space I can live in on trail. I guess I'm just not a "minimalist gram weanie" willing to give up comfort to save 8 ounces. Thanks for asking. Love to hear from viewers.
While we wait for the mass movement to reach the walmart folks I can say that I picked up a couple long handled bamboo spoons for a dollar from my local asian market and they've worked pretty well for me!
Great find! I'll check out my local mart. Being a DIY guy and having a friend with a giant CNC machine, I've made made some. Upcoming video. Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers
I found it's useful, cheap $ and easy-to-use. Gave one to my friend and hiking buddy Neighbor Dave. We used them on a cool night to dial in our sleep setups. Thanks for commenting and subscribing.
I've been trying to find some info on this exact Govee model about the battery. I know it's a lithium battery but can't find anywhere if the unit is rechargeable and if it is what type of charge port?
No charging port. Uses a big coin cell that you can replace. Mine has been in use for 10 months. Still working on original battery. BTW, Amazon has it on sale (today). I recommend it. Thanks for watching.
Just watched a video of how to build this alcohol burner wind screen/pot supporter and love it.....I was getting ready to build one from one I saw on another channel and wa-la....I came across yours....and I do appreciate you and now have subscribed to your channel....and I thank you and I'll let ya know how it works out....
I so appreciate your comment. Please do let me know how it comes out. You can email me and send pics/vids! Thanks for watching. tomlovesdiy@protonmail.com
My 20 year old Craftsman drill has them. I don't know why they stopped and other manufacturers never did include. Hope you are right. It's so useful. Check out my DIY drill powered disc sander video. Thanks for watching and commenting.
We had an offbrand drill that had a level gauge built in on the top. Everytime it kept my horizontal drilling straight. Always thought it was genius. This was a 10+ yr old drill. It's kinda strange that newer branded drills still don't have this and was still in the realm of DIY feature.
The windscreen can fit inside when disassembled but the pot lid can't fit on. It's taller than my pots. The bottom of the pot should be about 1.25 inch above the top of the stove to get the most efficient heat transfer. That determines the height of the windscreen. An alternative (simpler) design would be to make the windscreen diameter smaller and set the pot on top of it. The windscreen would be shorter. Depending on the pot it might fit inside. Thanks for watching.
Chris. Good question. Yes. Alcohol goes on the center hole. A coin works. Also one of those round punch-outs in metal electrical boxes. Put in the alcohol then cover before I ignite the primer fuel. I epoxy a small neodymium magnet to the bottom. It holds the punch-out securely. If the center hole isn't covered, you get a slightly faster boil time but less total burn time. Thanks for your comment and substituting.
Yes, made of aluminum flashing it's very lightweight. There is always a tradeoff - weight VS strength. Unless you use titanium! Don't have any in my garage. I'm going to post an update; adding pop rivets to secure the pot stand tabs. Concerned that theJB Weld can fail over time because of the high heat. Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers.
I agree. You are the only person who has caught that. JB is only good to 500F. Alcohol burns at 2x+ that temp. I'm going to add pop rivets and do an updated video. Thanks for commenting and watching.
Wonder if it's enough to make one for the back legs, since they take most of the load And you can glue on some velcro and use the band instead of the carry bag 😇👍
True. Back legs tend to sink more easily. Not sure how to make it stay on and if the weight would be spread out enough on one (smaller) strap. The X strap is under tension to all four corners. Have to think about it. I like the velcro idea. Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers.
