So if all these natives want their land back that means they are going to live just like they did in the 1600s no electricity no power no infrastructure right
wasn't 2002 a severe drought year and only salmon below the Trinty river confluence died. after all this, didn't fish still make it to the hatchery and also spawn below iron gate dam?
All water rights need to be cancelled and resubmitted. Nobody should have grandfathered water rights knowing how unfair and inaccurate the flows were measured originally. Water is a public resource and should never be privatized.
Hate to burst your bubble. Salmon never where able to go up river due to a lava dam just east of the Copco Dam. Get your facts straight and check the historical record.
There's a whole lot of hand wringing being done by people who relied on the reservoirs for tourism dollars and whatever their preferred form of lake recreation, along with income from sales of fishing gear and boat rentals. Also a lot of unfounded worry that the removal of the dams is somehow gping to cause lasting damage, rather than restoration. What those people's complaints and concerns lack are actual data and the ring of truth when it comes to the science. I have far more faith in the research of scientists than the opinions of the guy who's upset that he won't be able to sell as much fishing bait and rent house boats to people. It is simply not true that the damn removal will cause lasting detrimental effects to the river channel and ecosystem. That damage was done over a century ago. It is regrettable that some people who've built their livelihoods around the man made ecological damage that's been done to the river systems are going to have to adapt to change. However, it will be far easier for those people to adapt to the restoration of the ecosystem than for the ecosystem to sustain their lives without restoration.
The land will never be what it was and neither will the salmon run.. This is just another form of geo engineering with the aim of returning the area to the stone age......progressives and Indians call it something else.
The science is bought and paid for. You’re a fool to “trust” government scientists. They’ve been lying to us all. Don’t be ignorant dude, they can haul truckloads of concrete in, they can haul truckloads of sediment out. This was a worst case scenario to save money and time at the cost of wildlife and people’s livelihoods. You realize this poisoned water wells downstream? And you trust the scientists?! lol open you eyes, think with your brain and not your heart.
The sediment issue is temporary. It was always going to be that way. Otherwise it would be thousands of trucks over many months taking out the build-up. Complaining about a thing that has loomed on the horizon for decades is just ...smh. Looking forward to a free river.
It’s sad because the way this video portrays the removal is not what has happened. The river is toxic, too dangerous to even get in. They’ve killed many native fish in the main leg of the Klamath and also killed 850,000 baby salmon releasing them into the blown out river…..so much incompetence or plain negligence with this project. Good luck floating that river any time soon. It’s a toxic dump. And by the way spawning levels below the dams have been way low for years, not sure they’re really thinking about the true cause of the low numbers. We’ll see what happens, but a lot of wild life just died for no reason.
What is sad is the number of people who are willfully spreading misinformation about this project to cling to their own narrow world view. There have been numerous dam removals that served as a template for this project. Those river systems recovered very rapidly, as did the anadromous species in the system. Yes, there will be a sediment plume that will move down the river, but the water quality is quickly recovering, and the chronic toxic algal blooms and warm, stagnant water, will be reduced.
The reason the rive was toxic for a short period of time was due to the fact the lakes were toxic. This was as well planned out as could be. There are always the unforeseeable problems that come up. The problem was the dams. The fix is what has happened. Now nature will take it's own course.
I Understand what you're asking for. But the sediment behind these Dams have now washed in the Klamath River killing every living thing in it. Now will that help to restore the River. Millions of Fish are dead now? Unless we have a Major Flood. That Sediment will not clear out. This seems to be based on Hope's and Dreams. Sometimes Hope's and Dreams don't always come true. I Hope this is the River move. If not some Fish was Better than No Fish.
"It anticipated that sediment mobilizing in the first months of the dam removal would muddy the river, as turbidity naturally rises with higher winter flows. Our biological opinion expected the turbidity to have some short-term impacts on fish this year." Https:www.fisheries.noaa.gov
The river beds are now running clean water in the center stream. The sediment was already killing fish behind the dams. In the summer the water would smell. All that funk is mostly gone now.
@@johnkilty1419 this is a totally false statement. I’ve been on that river for many summers and have never seen what you say. It smelled like a river, now it smells like a dump.
Totally false? Talk to anyone who has been to Copco in August. I did not say the River smelled. I said the lakes got green and smelled. I said also fish died. All true! If you wanted to do something besides complain. You are late to the table. Dinner was served years ago. Complaining will accomplish nothing. Most of the people who live all along the Klamath are in support of this project. That is why it is happening. The Ocean smells every time the tide goes out. That smell you are talking about is the Bad news washing away. have a little faith. We all knew the beginning would be like this. Not sure why you did not. It hurts to rip the bandaid off. @@unboxinglife2308
AWA is self serving. They might protect a river or 2 but when stored water is wasted for adrenaline junkies rather than for hydropower and reducing fossil fuel use then there's a problem.
Great video! My only feedback is that there is a non-locking carabiner in the pin kit. It is best practice to only use locking carabiners in a river environment. The carabiner is shown at 4:08. Yes, the carabiner may be secured in a bag, but if a boater puts it on their PFD a significant entrapment hazard is introduced.
Any progress on this project? This weekend my boyfriend and I planned to paddle the lake to see the short channel but ended up running the long channel which was INCREDIBLE!!!
Make sure to lock your car doors. Great falls is nothing but crack heads, meth heads, pill heads, and corrupt cops. Chester county sheriff's office was raided by the FBI and US marshals because they were so corrupt. This whitewater section will be great for us yakers, but you'd be better off staying in rock hill and driving there in the morning. There is nothing in GF for food or supplies or to stay. That town died decades ago.
120 million to remove it. Breach it and let the water flow around it and leave the remains. S, how many bridges are in need of repair around the country. Misguided and 22 trillion in debt.
Sediment is NOT toxic. It is just soil & needs to be redistributed down stream. There have been numerous dam removals without hauling away the sediment & just letting nature run it's natural course.
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Well, you managed to get the dam removed. Bring a paddle, we need some help removing the mud. Time for you to help with the cleanup: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-n8sPJ3Ox71Y.html
Here’s a look at what’s happening downstream of the Mill Pond destruction area. Bring your paddle and start digging; this mud’s for you! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-n8sPJ3Ox71Y.html
Maine Man Must have been another "Maine Man". NO! I WON'T SHUT UP! "This is a Public Video. I made a Public Comment. You Replied. That's how RU-vid works. No Big Deal! Thank you for your advice. I'll give it the Consideration it Deserves. ..... BYE!
Why do we need more dams, we already have major 12 Dams on the Columbia ,Snake and the Spokane river here in the Pacific Northwest and we do have a lot surplus of power and we selling it to Ca. ? More dams on these smaller river , no common sense ! More harmful in the long run !!
Based on the Commerce Clause of the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Court defines "navigable" as usable for small boats like kayaks/canoes and floating small logs for logging (historically); they also say "rivers that are navigable in fact are navigable in law." States cannot deny the public easement on rivers usable in these ways. We don't need state approval to float navigable rivers here in Colorado. The "Emmert" decision specifically deals with non-navigable streams not navigable ones.
your "outside funding" is Seattle City Light, which had to undertake is as part of its relicensing. You have no clue what the local "realities and desires" are. Poll the locals, they will tell you to take a hike.
the "local economy" how is removing the dam going to help the local economy. I bet you dont even have a single AW member in all of northern pend orielle county. It has been there for 100 years, the fish have had to adapt by then. It is a history site, a site to camp, and a site to fish. removing the dam will make it a site to kayak....whoopie doo while all of the locals no longer will be able to use the site for what they have been using it for for decades.
Well, to be honest, more recreation in the form of kayaking may likely bring additional revenue into Mettaline Falls and Ione. Also, the Sullivan Creek campgrounds are rarely full during the week. That said, locals like to keep things small-we don't need a bunch of west-siders taking over.
Thanks for working on getting the mill pond dam removed and ruining an otherwise nice fishing and camping lake. There better be droves of AW members hitting this creek and bringing in money to that area or else dont be surprised if some of the locals end up throwing rocks at you
