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The Gospel has gone forth to the Lamanities. There are now more Members of the church in Central and South America than in North America. The seed of Joseph has been given the land of Zion. Ephraim and Manasseh now inhabit North, Central, and South America.
I find you comment interesting, primarily for the comparison of populations of church membership between one country, the United States, vs. the combined total of every other country to the south, including the continent of South America. That would be, give or take, about 7 million each, according to the information that is publicly available. The bulk of that growth in South America is encapsulated in an NBC News article, from 20 years ago: www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna5378318 Verse 11: "And then will I remember my covenant which I have made unto my people, O house of Israel, and I will bring my gospel unto them." "12 And I will show unto thee, O house of Israel, that the Gentiles shall not have power over you; but I will remember my covenant unto you, O house of Israel, and ye shall come unto the knowledge of the fulness of my gospel." But it would seem that since then the growth has not been as explosive on that continent. I am not sure if you are asserting the numbers of membership in the church has "arrived" at acceptable growth levels. I would encourage you to re-think and reassess what exactly is the point you are trying to make here, based on the following facts: The continent of South America as a whole recently climbed above 443,000,000, according to Worldometer. That approximate 1% is a tough alignment to attampt if you consider the magnitude of Verses 11-12 are inferring. And these two continents remain under the power, if not assumed ownership of the governments that reside on them. I do not see that current power structure as having a connection to the church and restoring the lands to the people from whom they were stolen from. I invite you go back and rewatch the video where 3 Nephi 16 is explained. It is not a scripture that indicates slightly over 1% membership in a continent would indicate reaching the goal described in that scripture verse.
Brigham Young teaching on hell 👌🤣. No one would know better than him considering that's where he is. Living a life of whoredoms, making up lies about our beloved prophet and founder, abusing his wife and family, rewriting Joseph's history. Yeah that pervs throne is now where king Noah is since he took on the same practices
I just love this ! Thank you for sharing. It's just heart-warming it have an insight into the lives of this pure Christian family. I'm so blessed to have Jesus Christ restored gospel in my life and believe that the book of Mormon is indeed another testament of Him. I think about the great events that happened in the scriptures and am so excited about God's dealings with His children. I am fascinated to hear this families encounter with this servant of God . ❤
I don't have time to go into all if their stupidity, but, in short, there are so many of this new generation of conspiracy theorist that are led by Satan and are lifted up in pride because they THINK they have a lot of learning, and Satan uses them to discredit the church as well as it's prophets and apostles!
Also, you have other educators that teach against what Joseph did. They say that he never practiced polygamy and they come up with all kinds of conspiracy theories to back up their lies for their idol God of political correctness just as Dr. Reeves did, and this also, despite what is recorded in the writings of Joseph Smith, other prophets and apostles, and the very scriptures themselves (see D&C 132). And, they do this despite overwhelming evidence and documentation. Any true honest historian, whether in the church or not, knows from all the available facts and evidence that Joseph had 30-40 wives! Continued...
In this dream, the barn does represent the church, but they are not fighting against Joseph Smith, but against his teachings, and the are fighting, not physically with each other, but are cutting each other with their words in contention. There are some educators that are lifted up in pride who discount the teachings if Joseph Smith, other prophets and apostles, and even the scriptures themselves, and they have the support of a large faction if the church that fight against those that disagree. An example if this is Dr. Reeves essay in race and the priesthood. He teaches against what Joseph Smith and other prophets and apostles have taught, and even the very scriptures themselves (see Abraham chapter one, Moses 7:8, and Moses 7:22). This is a statement from Joseph Smith himself: "The curse is not yet taken off the sons of Canaan, neither will it be until it is affected by as great a power as caused it to come." I know inspired exceptions were made by Joseph Smith and others until as late as 1935, but these were inspired exceptions such a as Christ made for the Canaanite woman after initially refusing her as Matthew records. Continued...
Are you really going to play those contextual games? So you think something has been discredited here, even though the specificity of the "three Nephites" (going back to the early church) has been a well used description of the "3 Nephite Disciples" as you might demand? What's eating away at you? Are you saying descriptive language to speak of three "disciples" cannot and shall not be used? If that is the case, how's that English language been working out for you these days? Do you find people find it comfortable to have a conversation with you considering your precise demands for how you expect everything to be defined and addressed? Who are you that you feel so entitled to correct the lexicon of church members for well over a century and a half? I'd love to hear your answer and even who you are to feel you are, to be so entitled to set parameters on how you expect the English language to be used.
Strange that you took the time to post this fallacy. It is you that is wrong: 4 Nephi 1:36 36 And it came to pass that in this year there arose a people who were called the aNephites, and they were true believers in Christ; and among them there were those who were called by the Lamanites-Jacobites, and Josephites, and bZoramites; 37 Therefore the true believers in Christ, and the true worshipers of Christ, (among whom were the athree disciples of Jesus who should tarry) were called Nephites, and Jacobites, and Josephites, and Zoramites.
Section 132 is a joke much like most of the D&C sections that were made up to suit needs of the changing church (pushing it the direction the leaders wanted it to go) or to give Joseph full power, or sections that were changed from the original way it was given.
@@keithwheeler341 You are not making sense. What section of D&C to you claim are "sections that were changed from the original way it was given."? What is your point and where do you stand?
@@thelatterdayteacher if you compare the 1832 edition of Book of Commandments compared to the 1835 Doctrine and Covenants, you will see some damming changes made. Joseph Smith claimed that those first revelations came by way of the interpreters, word for word from God, and then changed them a few years later. I invite everyone to look it up. It's alarming.
@@thelatterdayteacher JS literally told his followers that Jesus said they should build him a house, all while he was "sealed" to his followers' wives. A deeply unhealthy belief system here. Not to mention telling Native Americans, who have been here for 20,000 plus years, that they are descendants of Jews. So unbelievably racist and incorrect. Please respect Native Americans, their stories, their sufferings, and their histories by abandoning this ridiculous fairy tale. Thanks.
I kind of wish men and women could understand each other more. It feels almost like we're 2 different species. And it feels like when you are dating or married to someone that, its difficult to not be pulled in entirely different directions. And especially society REALLY pulls women to want to do what other women want them to do. And as a priesthood holder I don't understand why women will want to be close to their kids but completely ignore their husband. All my life I've seen that once women get what they want, they ignore their husband and that he is the last thing on their mind. I don't understand this. And I don't see how this will ever be reconciled if this mentality continues. And its weird especially because to men, their hearts are on their wife continually. Almost constantly. Yet why don't women feel the same about us? I wish leaders or more instruction or something could address this more. And I'm trying to actually live the gospel and still have experienced this. Its got to be much worse for people that don't even accept the gospel or not living it. Because there's more enmity and darkness in the world when you don't have the light of the gospel. /// I hope that somehow men and women will one day have more love to one another. In this life it feels like its so hard to reach one another on a spiritual and emotional connection level. So we need SOMETHING in order to bring us together. Its already hard. Like when I see family members, most of their interactions with men, are usually only when they need or want something. They don't really want to even hang out or talk to their men except to demand something or need money, etc. So we need something to bring us together... although I am not suggesting a focus on lust. /// And I hope you or others can reply to me on this as Its something I've been earnestly hoping for more inspiration regarding.
Perhaps what you are describing is a reflection on the consequences of attempting to stay true to the principles of the Gospel while at the same time melding current societal values and practices into your belief system. It is a paradox that simply can't be worked out.
@@thelatterdayteacher Yes. Thanks for your reply. Perhaps it will be more ideal in a Celestial system like the United Order? And I'm curious if eventually in such a system will they end up actually working side by side during the hours of the day.
As there are several comments here from various sources on this thread, would you please clarify what is ignorant and how you, yourself are not ignorant?
@@thelatterdayteacher I'm a shut in because of physical problems, but I study around 3/4 of the day. History and Religion both, it's my passion and appointment
@@stevenbolin7688 I like your answer. Do you feel it is essential for defamatory sources that some attempt to mix with church history to be verified beyond the weak standards of today?
@@thelatterdayteacher Hmmm 🤔 really interesting,I'm not sure, I was a pastor before I joined. Not qualified for your question. Yeah there's a lot of problems with the old and new ways. Dissent is there. But I'm a lazy learner, 😆
@@thelatterdayteacher I'm curious why asked about defamatory sources? I don't see that he did or asked something defamatory unless it came from a different video where you started talk to him? If you are asking about this, I would tie in and reinforce what your purpose and intent is if you state something negative. This is the pattern in D&C 50; the verses on edification how 2 people build one another up. Show an increase of love afterwards when you have to rebuke your child. Its the same with gospel investigators. Sometimes you have to bring up something negative, so afterwards you want to show increase of faith and assurance. Let me further clarify. You don't want to bring up something defamatory. I wouldn't use those. But sometimes there's things that are negative because of behavior in the church that have to be brought up in order to be corrected and then sometimes people mistakenly think its defamation, but your intent may have been to correct a wrong point. But they didn't understand it. And this is why you reassure like a parent. Example 1; Jacob rebukes the members of his day for lusting after having concubines. He's teaching them something they are doing is wrong. Now in the modern day example, someone might not realize we're allowed to encourage and exhort someone or other members. Its an Aaronic priesthood responsibility even. So we might see something we're doing wrong and bring attention to it. But others don't know us, we're not in their ward. So they might think we're bashing when we're actually wanting a wrong to be corrected, or for correction teaching of a matter to be brought forth so the gray area isn't exploited further. Some might misunderstand that as defamation based on their own weaknesses. But if you come back and reassure of intent and purpose and that your purpose is to build up not destroy it helps to not have misunderstands that might be misconstrued as defamatory when they aren't.
So I am wondering what you mean by "bunch" and the context of "boats". Perhaps you can elaborate a little on what specific time or time period you are referring to, maybe there is a specific story you have heard to repeat this thing you heard on this comment thread? May I infer by the tone of of your comment that you are an atheist? Or if you are not an atheist, could you set us straight on how the deity whom you worship operates? I implore you to share your truth here, enrich humanity by enlightening us with your knowledge, lead us to the light where you stand. Thank you
as a young firl of 18 working at Howard Johnson making desertes A old man came into the place and asked if he could work for food.The manager said no I said to the old man Sir if you set in first booth I will bring you food And this I did and paid for it out of my pocket He ate the food and dranked the milk I had served him I was busy doing my job and while I was making ice cream cones the old man left I went outside to see what direction he went but saw nothing He had his clothes in a dog chow bag I went to clean up his plates and beside his plate he left 2 pennies.That day the girl that worked the first 4 boothes was sick and dint come to work so I did her job and mine.That day I earned more tips than Id ever made.Ive never forgot that old man He taught me kindness no matter what you look like and it doesnt matter where you come from I truely believe he was one of the nephites and his memory forever stays in my heart.
So let's ask, have you ever seen anything of had anything occur to you in your life which had no good explanation? Do you live your life like this: Everything you encounter is either explainable, predictable or it is a figment of your imagination?
@@thelatterdayteacher Yes weird and hard to explain things have happened...but just because I don't know why doesn't mean I think it is the boogie man, a fairy, an elf, 3 lamenties, Apollo or Thor somehow appearing to help me. 300 years ago you would have been telling me some elves in the mountains were real and helping me out, now it's the lamenties...but the same fictional story tail for both. If you want to believe in say the lochness monster or whatever go for it- it's kinda fun believing in all that stuff.
In the 1950’s as a child, my uncle was sick in a L.A. hospital. He almost died. My grandmother was with him and in walks a doctor who offered a blessing to him. He gave my grandmother pills for him in a Rx bottle. He left and when the nurse came in my grandmother asked about the Doctor. They didn’t have a Dr. on staff by that name. In fact, they never heard of that doctor before. They never saw that doctor enter the room nor leave the room or walk the halls of the hospital. No record existed of that visit and she was never charged. Miracles happen and the Lord comforts those who need comforting through his servants. A similar incident happened when my cousin was suffering with a brain tumor and awaiting surgery in the hospital. My cousin was in her late teens. In walk 3 men, dressed oddly. They gave her a peaceful blessing which calmed her soul. They promised her health would be restored. They left. No one saw them come or go. We always believed it was the 3 Nephites. This also was in L.A.
Wow, it's interesting to note there is always something odd about these men, whether it be in dress, manner of talking, or choice of words. We don't usually hear of 3 showing up together. About those pills, it would be fascinating to have them analyzed to see what was in them.
@@federicoeco9030 4 Nephi 1:36: 36 And it came to pass that in this year there arose a people who were called the aNephites, and they were true believers in Christ; and among them there were those who were called by the Lamanites-Jacobites, and Josephites, and bZoramites; 37 Therefore the true believers in Christ, and the true worshipers of Christ, (among whom were the athree disciples of Jesus who should tarry) were called Nephites, and Jacobites, and Josephites, and Zoramites.
I believe they are talking about the Mayan's, Aztec's and Incas. Their DNA are Asian in descent, from Noah's grandson Tagarah (sp). It has been noticed that the American Indians, especially the irriquois and others have Hebrew DNA.
Interesting opinion. Have you considered the reverse also has some possible truth, that people in places such as Mongolia, Siberia, and Japan might have Lamanite DNA from emigrating from North America to there?
Wonderful presentation! I have a question about it though. Where are the three nephites now days? Shouldn't they be conversing with our prophet, seer and relevator, Russel M Nelson? And shouldn't he tell us what they said once in a while? I just haven't heard much from the pulpit about this. Thanks again for the information!
They never have a permanent location, nor is that necessary for anyone to know. This question has been coming up more and more lately. I'm sorry, I do not see why they would be visiting and conversing with anyone right now. "Should" is a relative concept. These stories always present their benevolent side, but they also have a side to them capable of delivering a sharp and powerful rebuke. If you have ever been in their path this way there is no way you would want to see them face to face nor converse with them face to face. If you knew the serious side they have, that side which will strike the fear of God within you, you would prefer they go away and not return.
@@thelatterdayteacher Hi...I am sorry but I can surely see why they would be communicating with the Prophet or should be. How else does he get his orders unless our lord and savior talks to him all the time...I look at it as they are pretty special people along with our prophet . and lord and savior Jesus Christ. How do they blend in with the people of this world I have to wonder, if their appearance is different and they look different than others look? I heard they would be among the Jews and the Jews dont know who they were or something like that..... I think it is in the bible...but I am not a smart man. To tell you the truth, the only stories I have heard lately is that they deliver pies to soldiers from the soldiers mothers. But thats might be a rumor. ha ha keep up the good work.
My ancestors settled Heber and Midway in the 1860s. Their names are on the plat of the old Heber fort as spending the first winter there. So hearing about the Heber Valley and the hot pots in Midway, utah, was a bonus along with the story.
WAS it the resurrected Moroni or was it a translated of The Three Nephites? To me it seemed instructive to lookup a faithful video by Nephite Explorer: "What Happened to the gold plates?" Much of the information comes from Jonathan Neville.
NO! NO! NO! The messenger (short heavyset man wearing a brown suit) who turned down the wagon ride when David Whitner, Oliver Cowdery and Joseph Smith were traveling between Harmony and Fayette was the same heavenly messenger who showed the unabridged plates to Mary Whitmer. Mary Whitmer always called him brother Nephi. However, Mary's grandson thought she meant Moroni, so it got changed. The scholars in Saints Vol 1 used this same FALSE information to say that Moroni showed the unabridged plates to Mary Whitmer. It was one of the 3 Nephites.
I don't believe that the Three Nephites exist -- don't believe Nephites exist. If they did, it would be all too easy to appear in the LDS main headquarters and be seen by millions, if not billions.
No one is making an effort to cause you believe. Free agency to think how you wish is a tenet of gospel truth. Who knows what reason would actually cause them to visit main headquarters as you state? What the point would be is your guess.
@@thelatterdayteacher Concerning, "No one is making an effort to cause you [to] believe." I believe you. My experience with the LDS is very much a "let them all go to heck" attitude. But at the same time, they have all these missionaries -- and it makes me wonder what their mission or motivation is, since it cannot be Love. "Who knows what reason would actually cause them to visit main headquarters[,] as you state?" The answer is simple, I know it. It's Love and Compassion. The point would be Salvation, to do the will of the Father. It's a Christian thing, I don't think that the LDS can understand it, otherwise, they would be more interested in Jesus the Christ of God than in religion. Surely such facts occur to you every now and again?
No Mormon's are here listening to any false Poopit's here. This page was setup using Jesus name so those who search for the true Jesus online are lured to the fake Jesus here that Joseph Smith created as a decoy to gain material riches. Smith loved worldly treasures that he used the Bible, God and Jesus to look good outwardly like a dog in sheep's clothing. He cared nothing for the true God or Jesus that Satan cares nothing for also. He cared nothing for the people using false gospel to destroy their soul in hell. He was put in Jail to protect people but his crooks slipped a gun to him as Smith used to kill people to escape. This crook was shot to death to stop this hatred against mankind. A dangerous crook that had the printing press destroyed to hide the truth for the crook he was. Many lives are shot up by Smith decoys that's set out even today. BIG RICH CHURCHES from the love of material gain with inside empty of the of the true riches of the true God or true Jesus. Smith's version to deceive was created from God that is Spirit and truth in the Bible to Smith's version making his god flesh living on a planet named Kolob with sex galore that was more of Smith's earthly gain he treasured most dearly. Then this Conman Smith made his created Jesus the brother of Satan. The BOM was nothing but a dog tick on the Bible to suck out the blood that saves us as Smith injects I HAVE DONE MORE THAN JESUS. Blasphemy!!! If their is a Mormon does pass by and see's this message and still teams up like the crooks stood by Smith then you are locked up awaiting for the Great Judge to sentence you. To a place with no escape ever as your treasured Smith found out that he can't shoot off his mouth ever again upon the earth. Satan is the Father of lies with Smith ushering in the Antichrist. The Spirit of Antichrist is out that Mormon's are now ushering in having the wrong Jesus. Question is, What Shall A Man Profit If He Gained The Whole World And Lost His Soul?
Oh my goodness I just read this , this morning. My huband used to tell us of something similiar of a Nephite visiting the Naranho Family in New Mexico when he was a young missionary in the Southwest Indian Mission for the Church of Jesus Chirst of Latter Day Saints. This would have been in the late 1960"s or was it early 1970"s? At that time the family were not members when the Nephite visited them. They too saw when he left that he rose in the sky. My husband, who died two yeara ago from Covid, said the Naranho family eventually joined the church. and became stout members. Your story cetainly colaborated what my husband had been telling us for all these years.
That's an interesting story. I'm so sorry about the loss of your husband. There are certain characteristics of these men that seem consistent. I would be interested in having you share more details of what you were told. These are worth preserving.
I fist met one of the three Nephites in the Zona Touristca in Ensenada Baja California Mexico. A busker playing guitar with a beautiful voice. A person at my table was annoyed as they couldn’t hold a conversation, ask them to go. Being a permanent resident I was so embarrassed and ashamed at this I tipped him $10.00US. A large tip by Mexican standards . He leaned over looking me squarely in the eyes saying “ I SEE YOU” . I laughed joyously as felt the meaning of his words. The Lord had told me to prepare for their visit. The second time I woke to see 5 men standing around my bed having a conversation about who Trump would choose as VP. (Mike Pompeo) I joined in the conversation concurring with their assessment. The three Nephites nodded, winked at me and walked out of my room through the walls fading out of sight. Then James the brother of Christ looked me squarely in the eye saying “ Then you had better write than down in journal”. John the Baptist nodded in agreement and they left. In the not too distant future they will dine at my table… I am the Son of Jacob; 21st century holder of the birthright of Israel. The hidden king of the Israelites. See D&C 113 #TheSonOfJacob #kingDavidAPrince FB/IG James_E_Stubbs
❤I was blessed with a wonderful visit, at a very rough time, at the age of 18 yrs...by The THREE Nephites...It will always be a special moment in my life...They are BEAUTIFUL, KIND HEARTED, SERIOUS "ANGELS" whom I LOVE And am very GRATEFUL for❤❤❤
You are asking why these men are not preventing evil. They do not have power over Satan.Their purpose is to contribute to the Lord's work. You may have asked a question for the church missionary program to address here, not the Three Nephites. Sometimes sister missionaries end up in possibly dangerous locations, and that is not right; nowadays even young men need to be careful. While you may not like the answer the translated beings never were portrayed as superheroes as you have read in comic books. They do not just appear to fight evil, no one ever said that.
@@solisprime2669 The question was interpreted as why evil is allowed to do harm and why these three men do not simply put a stop to it. Yes, their power is certainly there as you state where the devil does not have power over them and is able to prevent their works. But the universal laws of justice to do not allow someone to simply put a stop to the works of Satan simply because it is desired. The devil's plan has its' limits but in the meantime when Satan has been handed power due to the evil works of men you simply do not revoke the power and dominion Satan has worked to claim over the souls of men, simply with a snap of the fingers.
This is pure nonsense. Jesus said," many false christs will arise, and many will say 'he is here or he is there ' but do not listen to them" Your enemy, the devil, will appear as an angel of light. Mormonism is a cult.... RUN !
Great witness of the restored Gospel thanks for sharing. My wife's great grandmother shortly after arriving in the valley from Scotland was tasked to take the cows from the barn out to the meadow to let them graze. A large swift moving storm appeared suddenly up in the mountains above her. The men fearing that a fast moving flash flood might come on down; so they started out looking for 9 year old Satie. They found her and all the 7 cows safe. They saw where the flash flood did come down from the mountain and its destructive path right where Satie and the cows where! They wondered and asked her how did she escape the flood. She said a long bridge appeared and a voice told her to take the cows and get onto the bridge. She told them once on the bridge the water went under it, saving her and the cows.
Thank you for sharing this. But please remove the word "Mormondom" from the title. Our prophet said, "To remove the Lord's name from the Lord's church is a great victory for Satan". Thank you .😊
The book "Women of Mormondom" represents one of the greatest known works honoring the essential contributions of saintly women sacrificing and paying the price to help establish the Gospel. I invite you to get acquainted with this book, the electronic link is only $0.99 to purchase: www.amazon.com/Women-Mormondom-Edward-W-Tullidge-ebook/dp/B0721KJ731/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= I appreciate your use of the word "please" but I will not remove that word because to do so would mean I consent to the censoring and rewriting of those who truly paid the price in early church history. Mormon was a great man and a great prophet and I am proud to have any association with him. And I disagree with your quote: "To remove the Lord's name from the Lord's church is a great victory for Satan." There is a good reason why the scriptures are not called "The Book of the Church of '...'" We need less people blaspheming the Lord's name, not more, no need to participate in the whitewashing of the name of a great and noble Mormon prophet whose name is on our scriptures. For me to remove the word you request would make me no better than publishers of the Nauvoo Expositor who were at the forefront of slandering the early prominent women in the Church. When we pretend there is an issue with the title of the book honoring great Mormon women, we disparage that work and their lives: The author's note is listed here: Long enough, O women of America, have your Mormon sisters been blasphemed! From the day that they, in the name and fear of the Lord their God, undertook to "build up Zion," they have been persecuted for righteousness sake: "A people scattered and peeled from the beginning." The record of their lives is now sent unto you, that you may have an opportunity to judge them in the spirit of righteousness. So shall you be judged by Him whom they have honored, whose glory they have sought, and whose name they have magnified. Respectfully, EDWARD W. TULLIDGE.
You are completely correct. Thank you. I wish I had researched that pronunciation before recording; I defaulted to a general latin way I was taught but of course this is Emgish and that is a very prominant name in American early history. I will post your comment in the video description to acknowledge the correct way of saying it.
Amen; as the Saints gathered to Zion "the valley" for the next 10-40 years most families there encountered the 3 Nephites sightings as written in their pioneer journals..
This is true. I have a story from my great grandparents. They had a visit from a stranger that came to assist in giving a blessing to a dying daughter. She was healed instantly and the stranger left while the family was caught up in the moment. When they went to the door to see where he had gone, there were footprints in the snow to the end of the porch, where they disappeared. They felt strongly that it was one of the three Nephites
Sinning against the fullness of the gospel has already happened and The Native American seed Of Lehi will now take control while some gentiles might assist but not many because of their worship of the arm of flesh
