I would like to see two things in a documentary: 1-How orthochromatic film was treated to get sensible to red for create color experiments before 1922 (introduction of panchromatic stock). I heard about expose the film to hidrogen and also heard of use dyes. But how can dyes help if it can only filter light? If the orthochromatic film was 8% sensible to red, compared to panchromatic, it would take a lot of ligh to expose the film using dyes to compensate the low sensibility to red. If it have some few sensibility to red, the technicolor (3 color) camera could not get very pure color separation records. 2-Explanation how George Melies could do dissolves on camera, if the camera was so primitive. He count how many hand moviments he did with the cranck, and revolve the film, covering the lenses, to expose it again, but for dissolves he need to gradually increase and decrease exposure, and both exposures needs to match. Even Hubrick did dissolves on camera, but even for moderm camera sound difficult, and the takes can't fail, since if one of both fail, the other need to be redone.
The Prince of Thieves 1948 was shot on Cinecolor, but there is some footage that was colorized by WestWing Studios, to look like the rest of the film. I wonder why? Was the camera negative missing one reel?
@@thephotoplayer So, just a B&W print survived for this reell... No original cinecolor print left, I presume. Despute be cinecolor, We can see the skin tones looks much better in the cinecolor than in the colorized reel. I wonder if is possible go use computer colorization to make 2 color cinecolor looks like 3 color technicolor. Instead of fully colorize, they could just add the extra color channel. This Gobin Hood film would be perfect, getting the greens to the Sherwood forest.
This nice documentary missed the chance to show how cartooms for supercinecolor was shot. The camera needed to have red, green, blue film strips, to avoid use Eastman color negative and so avoid overduplication. How was this camera??? It could not be a technicolor, due copyrights.
@@thephotoplayer Like Disney did for technicolor. But the first few Disney technicolor cartoons used the live action technicolor camera with prism & filters and 3 film strips, and later was replaced for a single strip sucessive exposure by filters. Wonder if the cinecolor 3 color cartoon camera version was a exact copy or just based on the same principle.
@@elietedarce1266 The silver ferrocyanide that is left over after the cyan pass is converted to silver bromide. The silver bromide layer is not particularly sensitive to light, except when surrounded by ferric ferrocyanide (Prussian blue), which is what the toner for the cyan has developed. When pre-flashed, in conjunction with the blue toner, and extra photosensitive pass is possible.
@@thephotoplayer Amazing... the film strip became a lab and a production facility. So mang strps. That's why the final priing got quite some dirt, monochrome and color dirt after so many steps. The Eastman dupes, dissolves and fades, was so pooor in early versions, that we get impression the duplication stocks was really worse than shooting and print stocks for grain, sharpness and contrast. For other side, B&W fine grain duplication stocks was getting good at 1950's.
Here are what the movie ratings mean. G: Take the kids. PG: Know your kids. PG-13: See it with your kids. R: Think before taking your kids. NC-17: Hire a sitter.
Fun fact: The Gremlins movie led to the creation of the PG-13 rating, as it was initially PG, parents complained it was too terrifying. After PG 13, the movie was switched to that rating.
@@thephotoplayer Check your ‘held for review’ comments. I have already posted a link to the video in this channel thread. Like I said before, it’s only in 1080p.
This is fascinating! I didn’t know much about CineColor, so thanks for making this video. Super CineColor films really do look great. The process was just so complicated, though, and the eventual use of single-film processes made these old multi-film processes unnecessary and more expensive, I suppose. I got my undergraduate degree in TV/Film production and went on to get a Master’s degree in photography - all back in the days of film. I learned quite a lot about the invention and early development of color film processes, but I never learned much about CineColor. My film history courses pretty much only talked about Technicolor. It’s so interesting to learn about Technicolor’s competitors.
Fun Fact " Poor Cinderella " Starring Cartoon Icon Betty Boop "1934 " Was Betty Boop's Only Color Cartoon Produced by the Fleischer Brothers Max & Dave Produced in Cinecolor. 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
She was very young here. She got cancer but married Richard Long (Big Valley and 77 Sunset Strip fame) in 1954, cancer be dammed. Sadly, died in 1955 at age 21.
Oh sweet Jesus, I was looking for this for years! I saw this every damned time I watched Star Trek III in the local York theater. Seven times! Thank you!
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G - For General Exhibition GP - For General Exhibition with Parental Guidance Suggested for Children under 13 R - Restricted with Adult Accompaniment Required for Children under 17 X - For Exhibition when No One under 18 is Present
G - For General Exhibition - Persons of all ages will be admitted. M - More Suitable for Mature Audiences - Children under 12 must be accompanied by an adult. R - Restricted to Older Teenagers - Children under 16 must be accompanied by an adult. X - Suitable Only for Adults - Only persons of 18 years and over will be admitted.
G - For General Audiences - All ages admitted. GP - Parental Guidance Suggested - Some material may not be suitable for children under 13. R - Restricted - Not recommended for children under 17 without an accompanying parent or adult guardian. X - Suitable Only for Adults - No one under 18 admitted.
G: GENERAL AUDIENCES (All Ages Admitted) PG: PARENTAL GUIDANCE SUGGESTED (Some Material May Not Be Suitable for Toddlers) PG-13: PARENTS STRONGLY CAUTIONED (Some Material May Be Inappropriate for Children Under 13) M: MATURE AUDIENCES (Some Mature Material Can Be Disturbing for Teenagers Under 15) R: RESTRICTED (Under 17 Requires Accompanying Parent or Adult Guardian) NC-17: ADULTS ONLY (No One 17 and Under Admitted)
G: GENERAL AUDIENCES (All Ages Admitted) PG: PARENTAL GUIDANCE SUGGESTED (Some Material May Not Be Suitable for Toddlers) PG-13: PARENTS STRONGLY CAUTIONED (Some Material May Be Inappropriate for Children Under 13) M: MATURE AUDIENCES (Some Mature Material Can Be Disturbing for Teenagers Under 15) R: RESTRICTED (Under 17 Requires Accompanying Parent or Adult Guardian) NC-17: ADULTS ONLY (No One 17 and Under Admitted)
My home town Paterson . And of course Asbury Park as a kid at the shore . These fellows are the greatest act in modern time !!! No one comes close. And dont forget Joe Besser!! ❤❤
