It's more the algorithm for humanization that choose the Ruond Robin Samples, but in the same layer of velocities, use pretty much the same dynamic (at less not too noticiable if you don't try to null) , but yes can be a bit annoying. Anyway you can still mix without mayor problem, at least for sketch the mix and see waths work or not. Them yes, you can render and threat as audio file (that's always recommended, not only for this reason). For the other part, Toontrack nailed it, even if you render one of the duplicated tracks, close the session and reopen, it´s still nulling with the rendered track. But this i discover a few minutes ago, after see your video, i always believe EZDrummer use differents samples each time (like the others plugins behaviour), but now i know it's doesn't. (I still use EZD 2).
Plugins will react different because drum vsts are meant to trigger different samples every time you hit play for a more natural sound. It's not a problem, this is how these drum plugins are supposed to operate.
Hi. It looks like the message I tried to deliver wasn't clear for everyone. I don't have problem with differences in the plugin when I record or write the parts with it.The problem happens when I try to mix the drums. Think about it. After you recorded a live drum performance, do you think the drums will change every time you play them back? Of course not. You will hear no changes at all. That's why I said we should print, bounce, render the drums before adding any other processing like compression, eq, limiter, clipper, etc. I was talking from the mixing perspective.
Hi. The reason I use the compressor and eq combination is that this way, I have very precise control over the attack and release and I can compress the sound, which brings up the sustain a lot more. Then I can select the frequency to cut with the eq. But of course you can experiment with other tools. 😉
Nice trick 😊 I don’t care that much about bleed because the drums supposed to sound like one instrument not individual separate instruments. I use the bleed to get a cohesive sound, often I also let vocals and guitars bleed just a little bit though the drum room to get the effect of glue and sound like everyone is playing in the same room. Just a tiny bit can make a big difference.
You've figured out how good drum plugins work. They always sound different. If you want the same sound every time, use a simple drum sampler. Then you'll always get the same thing. How boring is that?
Hi. What I tried to explain was that during mixing, I don't appreciate the random changes. I don't mind if not every take is the same. Such as in real life. But once I commit to the take, it always stays the same. Such as in real life. After you record your drummer, the recordings don't jump around every time when you hit play.
Yes. Simple as that. I just tried to explain and give a demonstration why it is important. It's surprising how often people just use these plugins as they are and just throw some limiter and clipper on the top of it and call it a day, hoping for the best. Of course, it depends on what you want to achieve. A quick demo or a polished mix. Personally, I want to know what's going on inside my mixes and don't like random surprises.
Hi. Thanks for checking out the video. I'm happy you liked it. To be honest, this is a very capable plugin. Punches way above its weight. Just for fun, try to mix your next project using only this plugin on every track. You will be surprised how far you can go with it. 😉
I have both Omni channel and the Amek 9909. I seen your video on the Amel channel and thought it was very versatile. What do you prefer personally? I like them both.
Hi there. Well, to be honest you can get a decent mix with both. The only thing that can be an extra feature, that in the Amek plugin you have the TMT stuff, so you can emulate slightly different EQ behaviours on every single channel and in my opinion the limiter is more useful, but other than that... I don't know. It's a tough question :D
Hi. I wouldn't say better or worse. It depends on what you are looking for. I'd say very different. This is a console emulation, designed to use it on individual tracks or busses in your mix. Ozon is designed mainly for mastering, so I would put it on my master bus, or use it on a finished mix. Obviously Ozon has more to offer when it comes to functions and features, but I wouldn't open it on every single channel in a 40-50 multitrack mix. Short answer is: both of them are great for what they are designed for. I'd use the console in my mix, and use Ozone when I want to do the final tweaks on a finished mix.
@@akosfarkas1159 Please tell me, is this console worth the money? Of course, now it costs $90, but in advance they ask for $400, is it really possible that for embellishing, for example, a guitar or drums, the Tube Tech Classic Channel would be worse than the this Console, seriously, it seems to me that the Tube Tech Classic channel is much better than this console, most likely I’m wrong because I just downloaded console and so far it seems that it is too sophisticated, although in terms of the final sound it is not that much better than the Tube Tech Classic channel... I’ll try to find a video where this console is used separately on a guitar or drums, if possible.
Hi. Thanks. I beleive it doesn't really matter what MIDI device you use, as long as you can figure out the MIDI mapping. After all I used it with a midi keyboard so I'm sure it will work with other pads too.
How can I use the outputs on my Alesis strike pro to my mixer and output my vst sounds from ezd3 through my monitor or to foh. I want to do this for 2 reasons, to practice and adjust each instrument during practice and while doing so record and use in post?
Hi. If you want to use the outputs then you will record the audio from the drum module and not MIDI. So you can't use midi drum vst with audio. Those outputs for audio only. You need a mixer with the same amount of inputs as many outputs on the drum module if you want to record every drum pad on an individual track. Or you can record in stereo the whole drumkit using the left-right outputs so you need only 2 inputs on the mixer or adio interface. That would work for front of house and PA systems. But again, those outputs on the drum module are for audio signal, directly capturing the original built in drum sound. You cant use them to trigger midi drum vst like ezdrummer. Hope it make sense.
Hi. Yes I believe this should work. The only thing is that you have to make sure that your DAW recognized the drumkit as a MIDI device when you plugged it in. If you can see a signal coming in to your DAW when you hit a drum pad, you can record MIDI. Then just open a drum plugin on the recorded MIDI track and see if the plugins MIDI mapping is the same as the drum's.
that's sick, dound pretty good, do you have some tabs of it? i would like to practice it, but i cant play it by ear, im beginner :D thanks for response"@@akosfarkas1159
@@alexthiel6676 Sorry mate but I don't have any tabs. I believe I was tuned down to drop C. Try to play back the video in slow speed so you can catch the notes.
@@alexthiel6676 Sorry mate I don't have any tabs. I didn't think anyone would be interested. 😆I believe it was tuned down to drop C. Try to play back the video in slow speed to catch the notes.
Great Video! I have the same kit and have been searching for something like this for a while. Would you mind explaining how you record with a backing audio track? Is it simply just imported into reaper and you play along? Thanks!
Hi. Thank you. I use Moises to remove the drums from the backing track. This is an app you can run on your computer. It brakes down any music into separeted tracks. So you just import the tracks from the app into reaper as WAW files, mute the drum tracks and just play along. Easy as pie ☺. You can find great videos about Moises app here on youtube. It has a free version as well. 😉
Hi Ákos, I like the way you explain things. I would like to see many more audio examples. And so that the video doesn't get too long, it would be nice to divide it into several parts. 15 minutes is enough at a time. Thank you for your work!
Hi. Thank you for the feedback. To be honest I was thinking about breaking down the videos by instruments or instrument groups, let's say in the first part I focus on drums, then in the second part bass and guitars, and in the next one on vocals or the mix bus and so on. In the future videos I will try something like that. Thanks again.
Hi, thanks. If you install the free version of Slate Drums, it comes with 3 presets. They sound decent and with a bit of EQ and compression you can craft your drum sound to be perfectly sitting in the mix. Also there is the free version of Krimh Drums by Bogren Digital. It comes with a very nice preset tailored for metal and finally you can get the free ML Drums. It is kinda limited with toms and cymbals but has nice presets as well.
Great one. Thank you for that. I bought the plugin on Black Friday. I knew it was good, but I didn't know it was that good. I just searched for a video on how to use it properly. One question. Did you only use the plugin on the GuitarBus? No editing of the individual guitar recordings?
Hi, thanks. Happy you liked the video. As far as I remember I didn't do any processing on any tracks but the Amek plugin. It is a very capable channel strip and you can do a lot after you figure it out and get use to the workflow. I'm sure you'll love it.
Hi, unfortunately by default it doesn't map with the kit and there is no midi map for the Alesis strike (like Slate Drums) in the plugin. You need to manually assign each pad to the right drum. It took me like 15 mins then I saved it as a user preset. So you need to do it once, save it and you are good to go.
Well... as wa all know death metal and landscaping are very similar activities 🤣 btw I didn't even know that there are ads on my video. Thanks for letting me know.
First of all, THANK YOU for this tutorial, it helped me out a ton. Also, I have the exact same E kit as you and have tons of trouble with the Hi-Hat. Every review I see about it has said that the triggering on the hi hat pretty much sucks and I have gotten frustrated with it as well ever since I bought it. You are the only person I have heard say that it works amazingly, so I was curious if you changed any settings to make it better or did you just kinda get lucky haha. Thanks
Hi there. To be honest I don't know if I got lucky or not. ☺ I think the main problem with the hihat is that people set it way too tight on the stand. I saw a youtube video about it and it was a game changer for me. Try to find it unfortunately I can't remember the guy or the video title. Basically it's about leaving a bit of a wiggle room for the hihat so it can move and wave upside down. Try to loosen it up a bit. I hope it helps. Let me know.
I'm probably at the stage where I can finally use this plugin, your video makes me see it in a better light, in the past I'd just use the presets, but I need to actually use it to better understand what I'm doing with it. I bought it on sale cos it looked pretty, and I liked the idea of the random channel summing.
Thanks. I had the same issue in the past. Didn't really understand what I was doing. The best way to learn any plugins to open it on every track and try to tweak the knobs to see and hear what they do on different instruments. ☺
Compressor on reverb .. interesting, my normal reverb chain is EQ-reverb-saturation but I will give the compressor a try .. I would also like to recommend the plugin fuser, it's like trackspacer but better, instead of making vocal pockets on every instrument I made a final Instrument/backing vocals channel and triggered the fuser it with the main vocals and it was like instead magic
its one of my favorite go to plugins on everything. (i am gonna edit and expand this) being a songwriter/producer, i want to quickly get a rough mix that sounds almost polished like i am listening to it on the radio, and i don't want to spend my creative juices putting on the mix engineer hat, so i turn to this, and alot of the presets in there.
Agree. It's one of the most usable and feature packed channel strip plugins out there. The only plugin comes close to this is the Scheps Omni channel by Waves but the workflow on the Amek is more convenient for me.
@HitzMakin I know you won't like this, but selecting presets for your track is not considered mixing. Every track is unique, the presets give you a rough idea, but it's not always what the track needs. Pay for someone to mix your tracks and you'll get a better result with better translation (will sound great on every device).
@@bassinblue did you even read my post / lol / --- being a songwriter/producer, i want to quickly get a rough mix that sounds almost polished like i am listening to it on the radio,-----
