"Besides, what will posterity think we were? Demi-gods?" This guy had obviously never thought of left-wingers, who think if you're not perfect, you're evil.
The United States of America is a Masonic concept brought to life. As of July 3, 2022 current research shows at least 19 were Masons, with strong circumstance for 3 and a likely for 1, making at this date a total of 22 with one likely. 1. Josiah Bartlett ( NH) His lodge, possibly King Solomon, has yet to be confirmed. However, Josiah wrote a letter to his great grandson Ezra, stating " "I attended a Mason meeting last night, and as soon as you can I wish you would join the Masons." 2. William Ellery ( RI) First Lodge of Boston, 1748 3. Benjamin Franklin ( PA ) St. John's Tun Tavern, Grand Master of PA, 4. Elbridge Gerry ( MA ) Philanthropic Lodge, Marblehead, Massachusetts 5. Lyman Hall, ( Georgia) said to be a member of Solomon's #1 in Georgia. 6. John Hancock ( MA) Merchant's Lodge #277 Quebec, affiliated with St. Andrews Boston, and a member of the Sons of Liberty. 7. Joseph Hewes or Howes, ( NC) Unanimity #7, buried with full Masonic honors. 8. WIlliam Hooper ( NC) Hanover Lodge, Masonborough, NC 9. Thomas Jefferson ( VA ) see "Freemasonry And The Presidency" Ray Denslow 1952 10. Richard Henry Lee, ( Va) Hiram # 59, Westmorland Co, Virginia. 11. Thomas McKean (Delaware) Frequent visitor at Perseverance #21 in Harrisburg, PA) 12. Thomas Nelson, Jr. ( VA ) visited Yorktown #9 with Washington and Lafayette) 13. Robert Treat attended Mass. Grand Lodge in 1759 14. John Penn ( NC) Known to have attended lodges in NC. Affiliation yet to be found. 15. Rodger Sherman ( Conn.) His apron is in a collection at Yale 16. Richard Stockton ( NJ) 1st WM of St John’s Princeton 17. Matthew Thornton ( NH) Became a Mason at British Regiment of Foot during the siege of Louisbourg, Canada 1745 18. George Walton, ( Georgia ) Solomon’s #1 Savannah, Ga. 19. William Whipple, ( NH) St. John’s Portsmouth, NH * Masonic membership very often follows along family lines, with that trend it is likely that The son of Samual Huntington, who was the Grand Master of Ohio The son of George Read, whose son was Grand Master of PA. Agustus Rodney, son of Caesar, was a Mason. Phillip Livingston of NY may have been a member of Holland #8, NY Richard Henry Lee was a Mason. It is likely that Francis Lightfoot Lee was also, but this has yet to be confirmed. John Adams, ( MA) . There are various reports that John Adams was made a Mason at the Court of The Nine Sisters when he was in Paris in 1799. * My memory is that Franklin was in Paris in 1799 where he was escorted into the Lodge of the Nine Sisters by Voltaire. Adams wrote a very friendly letter There is a report that he was raised at #3 in Philadelphia on May 17, 1777 and that he was a member of #3 on May 01, 1777. He was said to be a visitor at #2 in Philadelphia. The following An American diplomatic commission was sent to France in July 1797 to negotiate problems that were threatening to break out into war. The diplomats, Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, John Marshall, and Elbridge Gerry, were approached through informal channels by agents of the French Foreign Minister Talleyrand, who demanded bribes and a loan before formal negotiations could begin. Although such demands were not uncommon in mainland European diplomacy of the time, the Americans were offended by them, and eventually left France without ever engaging in formal negotiations. The failure of the commission caused a political firestorm in the United States when the commission’s dispatches were published. It led to the undeclared Quasi-War (1798 to 1800). Federalists who controlled the government took advantage of the national anger to build up the nation’s military. They also attacked the Jeffersonian Republicans for their pro-French stance, and Elridge Gerry (a nonpartisan at the time) for what they saw as his role in the commission’s failure. The friendship between Adams and Jefferson deteriorated during this time. When Adams lost a reelection to Jefferson, the die was cast. Benjamin Rush was later to bring the two to a reconciliation, and from 1812-1826, Adams and Jefferson wrote long, philosophical letters forth and back. Ironically, the two died on the same day, 4 July 1826, the 50th anniversary of the vote for independence. Adams was in and out of a coma for much of the day. In a more lucid moment, he said, “Thomas Jefferson lives,” but he erred: Jefferson died several hours before Adams claimed death. John Adams was 90 years of age at the time of his passing. reginajeffers.blog/2022/07/04/john-adams-american-founding-father-and-the-atlas-of-independence/ Rush, a longtime friend of Adams, had been a member of The Sons Of Liberty
Absolutely agree. One of the finest historical films ever made- it seems secondary that it's a musical- although a wonderful open at that. All American conservatives should be forced to watch this, until they finally realize that conservativism was and always has been supremely un-American. We are a nation forged by radical, erudite, well-spoken, and highly educated LIBTARDS. Those were the days...
Nonsense. These were not 'libtards' like today. These were classical Liberals in the European sense. Freedom, liberty, and dignity for the entrepreneur, small farmer and average man (however imperfectly implemented for years) was what they believed. Today's "libtards" as you call Leftists believe in none of those things and only their ridiculous bigger and bigger governments.
The representative that did not wish to be remembered James Wilson,from Pennsylvania did some voice work in the Star Trek the original series, and Reverend Lymon Hall was in Amadeus.
Also of note: James Noble (Rev. John Witherspoon, the lead delegate from NJ) starred on _Benson,_ and John Cullum (Edward Rutledge, the SC delegate) was on _Northern Exposure._
John Dickinson didn't oppose Independence because he loved England. He opposed it because there was no actual government. Congress was just a committee, not a government and America suffered badly because all they had to lead them towards victory was a toothless committee. A unified central government over the 13 colonies could have shortened the war by 3 years, even with all the inherent mistakes of a young nation factored in.
"If I go with them, I'll just be just one among dozens, no one will remember the name of James Wilson". He had hoped to preserve his anonymity, however when I googled his name, he stands out as being "the only person who signed the Declaration of Independence"!
In all fairness, a clause accusing George III of carrying people off into slavery in another hemisphere should have been scratched out just for being untrue. Slavery as a system was in place before his grandfather was born and many men in Congress that day were a part of it a lot deeper than King George, especially including the man who wrote it
My husband and I have watched this every 4th of July since 1984. We pretty much know all the words and lyrics and say them. We also know that our Congress really hasn’t changed since 1776 except maybe more juvenile and mean.
It was the next day, Johnny tore the calendar page and everything. Not his name here but I will never not see him as Johnny the shoeshine guy from Police Squad. “Word on the street is that they’ll strike the slavery passage so the Carolinas will vote in favor.” :hands over $20:
5:58 and here we see the tragedy that is "cropped TV." When I first saw this on TV in 1975 I wondered why the heck Wilson was so low in the frame. It was another couple of decades before I saw the movie in its original aspect ratio and discovered Adams is standing to his left!
Yes. Because most scenes take place in a Congressional chamber packed with delegates, the original theatrical widescreen version of this movie is stunningly different from the 4:3 "pan and scan" version shown on TV for decades.
Rutledge, in an earlier scene, was letting Jefferson have it for his oblique reference to slavery, both defending the practice as a "peculiar Southern tradition" and calling out both Jefferson and the Northerners as hypocrites (Jefferson as a slave owner, Adams' Massachusetts as a slave-trading hub). Adams tried to belittle Rutledge on the issue, prompting Rutledge to rub it in their faces (the "Molasses to Rum to Slaves" song) before leading the Carolinas and Georgia to walk out. Franklin subsequently reminded Adams that, for all their disagreements, the other delegates were still deserving of respect, and that Adams should start showing it to them.
@@badwizard1312 I wish they would make more movies and TV shows that take place pre-1800s, that give you a real sense of what it was actually like to live back then. I feel like nothing really does. I don't know why more film makers and producers haven't done it.
“The ‘fair’ state of South Carolina… says yay.” “Fair” my ass.. And so began the grand perpetual “putting on another big band-aid of the American republic” on the issue of slavery. This continual appeasement would last less than 85 years until the guns of Charleston Harbor fired on Fort Sumter on April 12th, 1861. It took over 620,000 American lives and four years of the bloodiest combat in American history to accomplish it… But thankfully, we came out far better for it than the alternative.
In 1975/1976 during the Bicentennial, I was in the 5th grade in Weaver Alabama and our teachers arranged for us to go on a field trip (remember those) to see this movie at the theater. We were very excited and having a great time and then we noticed the teachers being shocked at some of the language used in the movie. All of us students thought it was funny. "Too late now" one teacher said, and we enjoyed the movie so much. If you were to show this movie today to students in school, I wonder what their reaction would be. Hard to believe we went from this great struggle for independence, to what is happening today. So sad. May the Lord Jesus save us soon!!
My kids love it and I watched it in 6th grade in 84. I own it digitally, dvd, and vhs. My friend, it's not yr Jesus but our active participation that will keep the inheritance. Everyone forgets "Of the People". Disagree with something? Get involved. Not violently. Active civic participation. It's not what they can do for us as our government, it's what we are doing for this legacy and responsibility.
No, and nor did Salieri poison Mozart. But if Shakespeare taught us anything, it's not to let historical accuracy stand in the way of writing a good play.
I don’t think the film presents him as that at all. While not exactly historically accurate, it presents him as a man of conviction who supports what he believes is best, and when he is overruled he lends himself to the fight. Pretty noble imho
I guess a motion this important had to come from.Virginia. if Florida had sent delegates they wouldve probably sank the vote. Or probably just gone along with SC and NC and GA
AMERICAN INDEPENDENCE FOR WHO NO FREEDOM FOR THE CITIZENS FROM AFRICA WHO ARE THE FIRST OF GOD'S KIN THE MOTHERS AND FATHERS OF CIVILIZATION WERE ENSALVED BY THEIR CHILDREN
I love the sort of stunned silence when the deed is finally done. It's more powerful, I think, than any sort of jubilant celebration would have been... especially given the 7 years of bitter conflict that would follow.
It certainly wasn't a cheerful moment, considering there was a war ahead of them that appeared hopeless and that they also just signed their own death warrants.
I would love to go back in time to 1776 and love to hear their stories and map makers from 1776 to now. Plus, I wonder if any of them had any idea or predict how America was made and completed
The 1973 film starred just about the entire original Broadway cast (the only exception I think was the part of Martha Jefferson, playing onstage by Betty Buckley and on screen by Blythe Danner), so if you watch that it's pretty close to being a filmed version of the stage show. The stage version isn't produced often because the cast has about 26 male parts but only 2 female parts, so it's difficult for community theaters to put on.
@@SarahB1863 Two very important replacements are Donald Madden as Dickenson (instead of Broadway's Paul Hecht) and John Cullum as Rutledge (instead of Broadway's original Clifford David). Cullum, however, had been the third replacement Rutledge on Broadway and actually played it longer on Broadway in the original production than any other actor. I've always thought the problem of the show having an overwhelmingly male cast could be solved (or at least mitigated) by presenting "1776* in repertory with *Nine" (which is all women with only one male role). Gender blind casting offers another strategy, and as you may know there was a recent revival that featured an all-female cast.
