do you still have this cone? It looks like you're using a MSR Titan .85l pot. If so, is there any chance you could trace a template for it and upload it?
I’m curious what advantage do you see with this handle over the folding handles that come on the MSR Titan Kettle? I use the same pot and find the handles work well enough. I do use about half a bandana folded as a hot pad when I take it off the stove. I agree it would be a little trickier to place in the the edge of a fire.
Ok, I just watched your video prior to this one where you explain why you made this new handle. Great idea! You are either an engineer or have the mind of one. Thanks.
Perhaps a duct work reducing fitting might be easier? Say 10" to 4" reducer? I think they have those for wood burning stove ducts too (black in color and no zinc coating).
Great video. Just made one over hear in UK, can't get titanium foil, so had to use chinese 0.10mm stainless foil, turned out just as described, but ended up with fingers cut to pieces, ha hah. Works a treat , keep safe and well.
Dude, you are the most eloquent speaking person I have ever heard on you tube. A pleasure to hear ! Most people can not speak without saying "UM", BUTT UM, and BUTT DUH , YOU KNOW ! Thank You ! Where did you get the ball joint tie rod ends ? Are they pricey ?
Thanks for the kind words. I do enjoy voiceover work and making How to Videos. Find them at Tractor Supply, although any lawn and garden shop would carry them.
Stephen Haitch Actually since that video was made, I have figured out a way to make a two-piece Caldera cone that easily stores in my pot. Quite simple really, just make two identical cones, cut them down so that the top one overlaps the lower one by 3/4" so that when together are the total height you need. You will need to "pin" the lower cone so it will not collapse under the weight of the pot and water. Drill a hole and insert a bent piece of coat hanger to pin it.Hope that helps.
I made a similar split cone about five years ago, after seeing a vid from Wandering Dot. I ran into the same problem of collapsing under the weight and came up with a workable, if inelegant, solution using a small screw and washer. I'm looking at improving the design. Do you "pin" this through the lap fold or outside it? Top and bottom, or just one?
The video is great, but you are making a (geometrical) mistake: In your case the piece of flashing you cut out is exactly 5 3/4" high (like the desired total height of pot+space+burner), but due to the fact that you create a cone and the flashing is assembled slant then, your finished cone is not as high as desired. The solution is a bit more complex, but if you want I can send you a scheme. Just let me know.
+Jannik Mi is the solution just simple trig? Where one side of the triangle is width at top - width at bottom, another side is his desired height, and the side you solve for is the actual height you cut the metal to?
Tim, that was a great video of a great event. i had such a wonderful time. you and Donna are naturals - i'm thinking TV show? where to begin with the name?!? ;)
Thanks for the quick reply. I've ordered a sled similar to the Jet Sled - a Pelican Trek 45 Utility Sled, so I hope it works. Most of my use will be for pulling on relatively flat terrain with cross country skis. Have you treated/waxed the bottom of your sled to reduce any drag, or do you know if that could make a noticeable difference? Thanks again!
Yes, I did make another one. I found the Expedition sled to be too long for back country backpacking. It would work well hauling heavy loads over a frozen lake and generally flat ground but I needed something for switchbacks, ups and downs, etc. I ended up with a Jet sled. It is plenty large enough for all my gear and handles very well in the woods. It didn't require an additional frame either. Thanks for posting.
Titanium sheet is the only lighter yet durable material I can think of. Search around for Ti sheet. Expensive but should last a long time...more so than roof flashing.
Thanks so much. Your video makes it easy for a non math person to make this. It worked great! Do you have suggestions for a lighter material to use? My cone weights more than my heinekan pot.
I hope your vid on the 2 piece cone is still in the works - I'd really like to see that! Have you experimented with an "open-type" can stove using plumbers cloth inside to help optimize stove/cone efficiency (boil the most water with the least amount of fuel)?
It needs to be 1-1/2" because the 1/2" inward bend and 1/2" outward bent overlap 1/2"....therefore you need to add 1-1/2" to your length dimension. You may find it a bit tight around the pot as a result but you can trim the 1/2" inward and outward bends to gain a bit more circumference. Actually adding 1-3/4" works a bit better.
Because the joint is actually 4 layers thick. The first layer determines the circumference. The second, third, and fourth are overlaps. At 1/2 inch each, they total 1-1/2".
I found the best performance was from a small V-8 can double wall styled burner. The flames from a Pepsi can size burner would overshoot the pot and burn up the cone. I'm not sure I understand the O2 issue. Starving the burner would be bad. Too many holes defeats the cone efficiency. On a different note, I have now a 2 piece Caldera Cone that stows inside my pot. Simple to do and eliminates the need for another conatiner to stow the cone in. I'll be putting a video together on how to make it
@2Questions007 do you make your own stove as well? I ask because according to Trail Designs, standard alcohol stoves don't work well in the low O2 environment inside the cone
Can't beat the Pa wilds , I hope to do a quick over nighter Tuesday without getting eaten by a wounded Black Bear . I can't believe it an ex hunter complaining about hunting season lol
A very well made tutorial. I have no doubt this can be made with titanium foil. I know titanium goat sells the foil. You may be able to find it cheaper elsewhere though. Nice Job.
