Leo is just me in a different font, like seriously the creators of rise must have been stalking me because it's scary how relatable he is. Even other people say so, THEY CALL ME LEO IN PERSON. Complete strangers have called me zesty, IT'S NOT FAIR. I EVEN HAVE THE INTERIORITY COMPLEX, I COPE WITH HUMOR AND I'M SEVERELY MENTALLY ILL. 😭🙏
Hopefully, if we get a season 3 and more, Leo can get therapy and learn how to talk to the family about his real feelings, not just his sarcasm and arrogance that are clearly hiding the true feelings.
when i was younger i HATED leo cuz i was such a nark. in all the other itterations. and now i actually quite like leo in rise, i think cuz all his brothers was just goofy guys and he wasnt he was rly annoying so in rise when they changed him a bit i actually liked it alot more and made him a more likeable.
If you do think about it I don’t think he’s that much of a jerk at first but most of the time I mean can’t really blame him it’s really because he’s insecure there are many hints and if you think about it he basically is the one that everyone’s mostly just being kinda rude to him except Mikey he’s like the nicest you can kinda see why he’s like this
I´ve been doing a character study on 2012 Leo and I got to say, the way you describe the rise version makes them sound a lot more similar than I originally thought. They´re both emotionally closed off and have ego issues that may come from fear of not being good enough (boy is deeply hurt by criticism). They just differ in their coping mechanisms
If it weren't for leo being a "jerk" the movie wouldn't have started bc leo was the reason they lost the key and the reason why they went to go get the key and then the foot clan summoned the krang (btw im not trying to be mean)
I'm new too so I only have Rise & the 2012 turtles to pick from at the moment but my friend keeps telling me I need to watch 2003 so I will once I finish 2012. As it stands for my favorites list of the turtles I know, keeping in mind I only have 2 seasons of 2012 & a few episodes of season 3 to pull from so my mind can still be changed, this is how my list is somewhat shaping out from most favorite to least, Rise Donnie, 2012 Mikey (not gonna lie, the sub joke he made boosted him up), Rise Leo, 2012 Donnie, Rise Mikey, Rise Raph, 2012 Leo, & 2012 Raph. I actually really like Rise's Raph, I adore all the turtles in Rise, just stinks he ended up so close to the bottom. 2012 Donnie was hurt purely by how he acts around April, if he was a little better about it, he'd probably be my second favorite & I do let it slide considering he is a teenager, they don't know how to handle those emotions, & others do end up showing him he is wrong & he did listen at least, until April kissed him in the big foot episode like I'm harsh on Donnie for being creepy about it but April, she should be aware of how he feels & be more honest than kissing him, she's sending mixed feelings into that confused teenage mind of his. I want to like Donnie more than I do which is why I complain but hey, at least Rise Donnie is so great, there are times when he makes cringe worthy mistakes but again, teenager learning from his actions. It's great that Leo did get focus on the movie, I wanted to like him more & the movie definitely boosted that for me. I am a Splatoon fan, been playing ever since 2015, when Splatoon 2 had their ROTTMNT splatfest years ago, I wasn't a fan so I didn't know which teams to pick, I was on Leo with Leo Vs. Raph, we lost, sorry, Donnie for Donnie Vs. Mikey, we won! Then Donnie again & we won again, more so proving he is the best turtle but part of me wishes Leo won against Raph, not just because I was on his team but I do now genuinely like him, like if I were to go back in time with the knowledge of the series I have now, I would of not picked anything differently, I am happy with my choices but if I had the knowledge of the 2012 series & knew nothing of Rise, there's a chance I might of picked Mikey over Donnie, slim one considering purple is my favorite color but knowing me in like 2018, I would of been conflicted but I do think I would of ended up picking Mikey which like current me would of been alright with but knowing how amazing Donnie is in Rise, I would of been a little ticked at my past self but definitely would pick Donnie over Raph so I guess I would of been on 3 of the teams instead of 2 but happy it worked out the way it did, I got to be on my favorite turtles teams without knowing they were my favorites, between the options given. If there was a Leo Vs. Mikey, I think I would go Leo but I actually have been super conflicted on this because I do really like both of them in Rise. I actually was considering putting Rise Mikey ahead of 2012 Donnie but I couldn't do it. Oh great, now I'm second guessing my list.
I know he may little jerk but was frustrating in movie until he wasn't when Kranng got Raph or Casey told him what happen to his brothers in future also, do you know that 2012 Leo was kinda did few times when he do some thing stupid and being alone without his bros
I feel like if we had gotten a Season 3 we wouldve followed Leo on his ups and downs while being new leader while watching him evolve with it. But since it was cut the movie was a great way to summerize it in... how long was the movie?? i dont remember- but u probably see where im going! Plus fully agree with you! I actually grew up off of 2012 tmnt and watched Rise for fun but didnt have much access to them but the small amount of episodes i did see i loved!! Raph and Leo are my favs!
Rise is honestly my top teir favorite. There's comedy, action and actual brotherly love. 2012 was okay, but I felt bad for Mikey being mistreated, Raph was set off by most thing's and doesn't try to work on it. Leo was more of I'm a leader I need to act like one. Donnie was head over heels over Apirl. Rise gave them more personality and what they like example, Mikey has stickers so you can guess he must like art, Donnie obviously a tech kind of guy but his relationship with Apirl isnt so cringe. Leo puns and joke maybe to cover up his promblems, Raph more control of his anger then let the anger be him as a person, which adds disattachment issues from his brothers which cause him to panic. Honestly this show/movie got me to emotional level.
I hate how this version of the Turtles swapped the character traits. Leo is the one who always watches out for his brothers and Raph is the arrogant and aggressive one.
Though I think your choices for Raph's Pokemon make a lot of sense, I've thought of at least one alternative Pokemon that would make sense for him. The Pokemon is Pangoro, which not only fits with the attributes you've credited Raph with, but also suits Raph's rough-around-the-edges approach; Almost every Pokedex entry of Pangoro's points to the connections. But even if Raph doesn't end up getting Pangoro, it could suit Casey Jones(from the 2003 show) for pretty much the same reasons
I really like this option! I actually looked at Pangaro a bit for Raph but ultimately decided to pass him up because he felt more suited for 2012 Raph than rottmnt. I still really love him for Raph though, and taking a second look at the dex entries makes me feel like he would be a great addition to the team! Thanks for the suggestion!
I feel like the writers of Rise wanted to write all four turtles as TEENAGERS, but to some degree of course they've forgotten what it's like to be a teenager. Additionally in most other series the boys have basically been home-schooled by Mr Miyaki in rat form. It also tends to be fuzzy on how much time they've spend above ground, and they come off like they're 20 or something. In the Rise series, we meet Leo at just 14 years old and frankly, he does behave like a know-it-all 14 year old boy and he and his bros have been home-schooled by the worst possible version of Danny DeVito who wants to keep them safe by hardly training them at all, kind of like teenage pregnancy statistics among home-schooled kids in the US. Raph initially takes the role of the leader not because dad designated it, but because he literally tells his bros that as the oldest and biggest brother he SHOULD lead, and for the most part they agree because being in charge is a LOT OF WORK.
"He's not ooc", that depends, if you're talking about Leo in rottmnt I understand, BUT if you're talking Leonardo from TMNT in a general yes, HE'S COMPLETLY OUT OF CHARACTER, just try to watch the others versions like 2003, 2007, 2012 or the comics and you will see it. The rottmnt Leo version it's totally a different character, because it's a *fact* that the ROTTMNT changed a lot in their characters
I remember hearing a theory that Leo wasn’t ready to be leader when Splinter kinda sprung it on him. So during the movie, Leo was acting like a little shit hoping Raph would get fed up and take back leadership.
I can relate to avoiding faceing the problems Why do Leo does that too? He acts like he is the best Why? Cause deep inside he fells like he is nothing, not good enough, useless So he keep playing a fantastic good, he pretend to have so much confidence so he will not be caught that he is not How many times he tries to prove that he can do that amazing things as his brothers did He had a really low selfcounses I really want thay to be true Insted him beign just a jerk like the show showed us You know Im trying to do my best too.. I dont wanna let anybody to think that I am not doing good enough So I try to do more than that I even can't do Something is too hard for me? I will fight to prove that its not hard for me at all Many people looke at me as I am a feliure, a fool And when the things goes bad, when I cant do that or fix that I feel anxious, and bad about myself Hating myself for beign like that With shaking hands I keep going But I am not acting like am better then anyone Sometimes maybe I feel like that,when I see that somebody cant do the easy thing that I can That makes me feel better about myself But something is off in this feeling.. I am scared to not beign perfect in anything for anyone.. I just want my mom or somebody else.. Anybody.. To be proud of me Because they never did
I love this analysis and I really like how you get many aspects of his character. I highly suggest checking out @skulltrot on RU-vid on their analysis on Leo. It really gets into the needy greedy of Leo and his actions and his characters and all his insecurities and how it effects them into his personality
I’d like to say, that personally I don’t think him being so…him?? is his ego, I argue it’s his fear. His fear of not being good enough, fear that he’ll mess up so bad that he can’t save everyone (like what happened with the portal key). This was still a good video though! I love hearing others opinions on Leo
I heard people say that Leo in this movie was very exaggerated in his arrogance and not listening attitude. So I was prepared to watch a cringe over the top version of R!Leo, but when I finally watched I thought, isn't this just the same guy from the first two seasons? 😅 I have no idea why people were saying that but R!Leo was being his usual self in the beginning and I absolutely think it's the serious tone of the movie that makes his personality stand out more like you mentioned.
