hi! great video and plenty of usefull information. i have just a question regarding your experience... would you say that's easier with the full keel to bow docking or with stern docking following what you've just shown in this video? thanks in advance! :)
I would say it depends on the dock, wind and current. I don't own this boat any more, but when I did I would say I went in bow first %70 of the time, stern first the other %30.
@@travelbywater9378 Yeah I thought so! Older gentleman, sold his cottage on a lake along with the boat. That was his asking price so I didn't bother to barter any lower.
Definitely need more weight up front. We have the same set up with a 3.5 Tohatsu. Works great with my wife up front. Solo I put 140lbs of weights in the front. I used a 2by8 to mount my outboard.
@@travelbywater9378 I like having the motor off to the side. This weekend was the first test. Nearly have 10 hours on the new motor. In the next season we will have the outriggers for stability and I will put the front seat back a bit and lower. My wife won’t be able to use it for paddling anymore. But now we just want to use the canoe with a motor anyways. It’s very fun and relaxing motoring around the many small lakes in northern Ontario.
Wow, this is wonderful! I am SO grateful for all your Bay hen videos, they are amazing!! I have been wanting a small trailer sailer but dreading the rigging when launching. I also LOVE the classic nostalgia of cat boats. Question: I assume that you leave the sail laced when you are going out often and only take it all the way off for the winter? So there's no lacing of the sail normally? The Bay Hen I am looking at just seems to have a cover bungee'd over the sail to protect it from the sun.
Yes, correct. I trailer the boat with the sail laced on and only remove it for winter storage. They are amazing trailer sailors, I haven't seen anything in the size range that was even close to as easy to rig and launch.
@@travelbywater9378 I saw a Bay Hen where a guy cut PVC pipe into rings and attached one to each eyelet of the sail to slide on the mast for raising and lowering instead of lacing. Any reason that wouldn't work?
Nothing specific except that Grummans are about the best boats out there for doing cool mods on. They are strong enough that you can get away with a lot without having to worry about damaging them and Grumman made tons of factory mods including sail rigs, rowing rigs, outboard brackets. Some are still available on market place or Ebay and were built to last.
@@travelbywater9378 I’ve considered it. I really like the units and the performance seems great. But if I went that route I’d want to do solar. And, and, and… lol I am planning on doing solar on the siren this season or next. Maybe I’ll look into then. Doesn’t help either I just bought a new outboard last season. Cheers
Really nice video. Reminds me of my sailing days many years ago... Would like to see how you organized it inside. (Thinking seriously about living a tiny boat lifestyle in a couple of years. But still a lot to learn - without any technical skills whatsover 😅). Fair winds and following seas to you sir!
The pup is an Olde English Sheep Dog/Poodle cross, so the cold and wet don't bother him at all. I had planned to spend more time on islands where he could run around.
Awesome video! Thinking of getting one of these for ICW in Florida East Coast. How long does it take to launch from trailer and what do you lose by not having a jib/genoa?
It is pretty fast to launch and rig. 15 or 20 minutes if there are no tangles. The boat sails pretty well for no jib. The mainbis huge, the boat has a lot of power.
This video has made me much more confident leaving the dock in my 37!ft Rafiki. Prevailing winds usually blow the bow opposite to what is needed to head out of my fairway. Bout 50% of the time I'm backing out but now it looks like I know what I'm doing!
Thank you for your reply to my message about the reefing and boat speed in the your other video. Amazing that you set out for a two week adventure in the Bay Hen with family of 3 and pup. I limit myself to 3 days! In this one, at 5:32, how are you managing your anchor rode in the bow during the trip? Seems like your bedding would get wet as you used the anchor throughout the day. Thanks!
The anchor is tricky. I manage the anchor from the bow hatch but the anchor and rode are stowed in my starboard cockpit locker in a bucket. So the anchor is never inside the cabin.
Видел их на "Алиекспресс". Стоят, как "взрослые", грузоподъёмность, как у бутылки из-под пива. Спасибо, что попробовали, но можно посчитать грузоподъёмность на бумажке, не рискуя замочить штаны. :- )
In the first part of this video you're reefed down all the way. What is your recollection of the wind speed that day? Being a Peep Hen sailor, I'm impressed with your speed and control of the boat.
Yes, Bay Hens are surprisingly fast boats. The long waterline and big sail plan really makes them scoot. They are lighter for their length than a peep too. I don't remember the wind speed but I was sailing with a baby on board, so I was probably over reefed for the conditions. I generally am with the kids on board.
Nice... I have a 20ft Buccaneer with torqeedo 1103CL, works just fine. Found that 400watt is about max efficient for my 10ft inflatable dinghy raft and about 600.watts for my sailboat. Maybe a .1-.4 knot diff at 1200watts (full throttle) but drains batt pretty quick. Not worth it. Can extend batt time by a lot with lower watt useage going roughly the same speed.
I sailed these a couple years at camp in the 70's, they had 8-9 grumman and added sail rigs to 4-5 of them. Total blast! I'm looking at another grumman for fun/touring and have been thinking about the old sail setups. Wouldn't be hard to rig one up, but I might keep my eyes open for one. You definately lucked out as they can be hard to find...right place , right time and know what your looking for!
@@travelbywater9378 that is so cheap. I'm in Canada and people seem to want 500-1000 even for worn out and damaged hulls, not adapted for sailing... I'm converting an old fiberglass canoe for sailing right now! luckily got it cheap from my neighbor.
Lotta fun. Grumman made several sail kits for their canoes. I used to use grumman canoes as platforms for my trimarans. Great camping rigs. Had a couple of those gunter sails - one older like yousr, the other one of the later all white ones made of dacron. The latter I modified for better performance by adding reefing points and a reefing halyard. Doing that makes it a true sliding gunter. Adding lazy jacks also helped manipulate the sail when droping or raising it. Good that you sail it loose footed. The long foot of the gunter really benefits from not being a sock type. Mine was, but i folded it closed and sewed it to get a better edge performance when loose footed. Made a big difference. I added a 20sq ft jib to get way better upwind speed, as well. Later I switched to a balanced lug sail l. I've since sold all my canoes and outrigger kits, but i still have the lugger. I might just try to kit out my 14' aluminum skiff.....
@@travelbywater9378 It was comfortable to be able to sit facing forward, not having to hike all the time. like driving a car. i rigged up a norwegian tiller by fastening a telescoping painters pole to the starb'd tiller ear. Push /Pull works well in narrow boat. The pole extended 13 ft so I could keep hold of the tiller if I needed to get to the mast - which happened a lot. Walking around while under way is a great luxury because there was no chance of a capsize. One downside: when a sailboat does not heel, the mast takes more load. At most, it heeled 3% and never ever got close to submerging the leeward ama. So, I installed lookouts on each side of the mast partner for shrouds to reinforce the mast- which I never added as I sold the whole rig before getting to it. Back back, shoulders, etc. I really miss doing all that. It was a great way to get into shore side camp spots with a lot of gear for a lux camp. I took it out tothe San Juans a few times and beach hopped the Cascadia Water Trail. Left many a sea kayaker in my wake. cheers
@@travelbywater9378 Technically, no, not out in the Pacific. The San Juans are located inside an inlet of the Pacific that also encompasses Puget Sound, ther Straights of Juan de Fuca, the Canadian San Juans, the American San Juans, with the north shjore being Vancouver Island, B.C. and the south shore being Washington State. So, it's open sea water, but the Pacific is about 100 miles west, out the Straights. The area is interesting boating because of all the small islets and currents. Lots of orca can be seen, as well as dolphins. gray whales also. So I guess most people would consider it the Pacific, but without the big swells.
