A full size ebike. This is classed as a super light at 18kg and smaller motor. A full fat is a full power ebike with 85-90nm torque and larger batteries..
Hi Chris. Apologies for not providing more information. I posted this so I could include a video with the Facebook listing. Everything you need is on there at facebook.com/marketplace/item/357756100325148/ I hope this helps answer your question.
Hello Nat, being an actual owner I’d really like your opinion. I’ve been considering a crafty XR but heard the whiney Bosch motor on reviews and it put me off. What made you change? I’ve not been about to get a TQ demo yet but recently tried the specialised SL 1.2 and that was fine power wise. What do you see as the pro’s and con’s between both your Mondrakers? Thanks in advance.
Hi. Thanks for replying. This is the reason I posted these videos as I know this is a question many will ask. So I haven’t changed bikes. I am lucky enough to have both. I still own and love my crafty XR but wanted something lighter for bike park days and the days where a huge 750wh battery was not needed. So first off, I am a massive fan of the Bosch motor. I’ve had 5 e-bikes now all with the gen 4 motor. Ranging from my first Orbea Wild, my Whyte and my husband and sons bikes and through to my current crafty. The noise doesn’t bother me at all. My son has the Kenevo SL with the Marle motor which you said you like and that to me is much noisier than my Bosch. Welwyn we are riding side by side I can hear his motor over mine. Ofcourse, the TQ motor is silent so if it’s a noise factor that bothers you, the TQ wins hands down! The Mahle and the TQ has less torque and max output power compared to the full fat Bosch gen 4 so again, it depends if you want full on speed and power laps or if you like to feel you are putting the effort in too :) It’s hard to compare my mondrakers as they are so different. I would say if you are looking for something with some good power but still like the feel of a manual bike then the Neat is for you. If you want big power rides where the bike takes you up those mountains effortlessly then don’t be put off by the noise of the Bosch as I feel it’s minimal compared to other motors that I have ridden or ride with. You won’t go far wrong what ever you choose with the mondraker but decide the type of riding you want to do first and then decide purely on that rather than the noise.
@@MyWelshLife many thanks for the advice. For me it’s actually more important how the bike handles when pointing downhill. Does the lightness of the Neat have it or the Ohlins of the XR make for better descending?
Hi, thx for the heads up on this one. I'm considering this bike, but am not very sure about the TQ motor.. 🤔 How is it holding up with that 50 nm? Does it have enough punch for steep long climbs? It's a very nice bike, enjoy it! :)
Thank you for your comment. I guess, the only thing I can say to you is try and find one to hire/test. It's a very different experience to that of a full fat Bosch motor etc... I don't think the less torque makes a huge difference as I can get up the same stuff on both the Neat and the Crafty, however, when you put your foot down on the Bosch motor you can feel the motor working for you whereas on the Neat with the TQ motor, you just feel like its ALL you that's putting in the work as its a far more natural feel. The cadence is what is key on the TQ. Get those legs spinning and it will give you peak power of 300W over the 600 a Bosch will provide
Absolutely brilliant. I enjoy riding the Neat over the bigger full fat at the trail centres. A few things I have learnt along the way... The battery isn't easy to swap over so I only use the 2nd battery for trail centre days when I have help to switch batteries over. I'm currently sourcing an extender to increase my daily rides that little bit further which is better that swapping batteries mid ride. The bike also rides great when I'm out of battery. I rode 5 miles home the other day from my loop and could easily pedal without assistance. Not something I could do on the Crafty. But it will get up as steep as the crafty will and no front end lift due to geometry so feels easier to climb on. Going down, it doesn't go where it wants like the full fats, you can manoeuvre it where you want it to go but of course, is a lot more twitchy/playful on the looser stuff
Really enjoyed your vid , I did Brecon to Talybont to Gap then back to Brecon last year as a nostalgia ride from 30years ago . Bikes have progressed a tad but the ride was as epic 😃
@@MyWelshLife Tee hee 😁 I worked in Llechwedd quarry, in the slate engraving workshop. I was just showing Mrs Zigs the quarry from your film, thank you for the footage 🙂
@@ZiggySearchfieldCactus Amazing! What a place to work!! Deep up in the quarry itself is very dark and claustrophobic due to the colour of the slate and no greenery but head back out of the quarry and it opens up a beautiful new world full of waterfalls and lakes!!
@@MyWelshLife I did enjoy it 🙂 If you climbed above the quarry, over the bit you can see at 2.45 in your vid, beyond that there is a lake that's totally overgrown with vegetation. You wouldn't know it was there unless you jumped, then the ground would ripple 😨 If you went through they'd never find your body. Most of the Welsh folk in the town had never been up there, they couldn't see the point as there was nothing up there to see 🙄
Hi, thank you for your impressions of the brand new Neat. May I ask what size you are and what frame size your Neat is? I am 1.70 m and fluctuate between frame size S and M... 🤔
It’s an amazing bike! It’s a do all and go anywhere bike and the motor is so quiet yet punchy… you will love it! I’m a medium at 5ft 7 but as a woman I do tend to have longer legs. Do you have a dealer local to Ty them out?
@@Alex-ki6bl I have a medium at perfect for me at 5ft 7. Mondraker have a very different sizing to other bikes but I’m a medium in most bikes as I have longer legs
Hi, nice video! I have the SRAM RSC and changed the pads to Uberbikes, the blue ones (race matrix if my memory serves me right…) that was a great improvement!! 😊 I’m in the same position regarding choosing a light e-bike… they all seem good but I’ve reached analysisparalysis…
Yes! I have those on the crafty but still horrific! Changed the crafty to Formula Acura brakes now and so much better!! I will do the same to this one in time. If I can help with any questions please ask… I spent months researching!!
Nice little video Nat. Just a quick note. The RR weight is actually 18.3kg/19.2kg with the battery extender fitted. The RR SL weight is 17.9kg/18.8kg Inc Battery Ext. So, compared to the bosch cx the TQ needs alot more pedal input/spinning before you can feel it helping/working ?
Yeah... 17/18kg... It's SO LIGHT!! It's a bit like turbo on the Bosch. Get the cadence up and it supports you a lot more but yes... Cadence is definitely what powers you but make no mistake, I am keeping up with the full fats on this bike (when they aren't in turbo haha). What takes a little getting used to is the trails. DH no problem but X Country/Enduro where there are pedally sections, you have to think a bit more! You have to make sure you are in the right gear like you would with a manual. Things where the full fat could power you out. This is why the X Country trail I did in Hopton, I ended up walking a little more than I'd like because I kept stalling!! haha...
I'm still undecided between the R and RR colourschemes. The Only extra upside with the R is I can use the £1700+ whatever I got from selling the base model fox 36's, the cheap dropper and cheap SRAM brakes towards upgrades.
Colour is certainly a factor! I bought without seeing any of the colours in real life but for me the AXS was a game changer as I have lost the use in my thumbs recently and struggling on a cable changer! I haven't seen the bronze/black up close but honestly, this colour is absolutely amazing! Would I pay the extra for the RR SL? Probably not as I can't see any benefit for me really. I love the Fox Factory kit also and it really has the wow factor when I'm out on it!
@@MyWelshLife Sorry to hear about losing the use of your thumbs Nat and thankgod for axs ;) I built a foxy up lastyear, ended up wrong frame size so now have everything to build a bike inc xx1 axs kit,new 36's,axs dropper+++ so the cheaper R would make mores sense BUT wouldn't want to buy one then regret not checking out spanish racier looking RR colours so for now I'm hoping MTBMonster get both colours instock in the next few months so I can go check them out. Sunset would be a min of 10hrs roundtrip if no traffic delays so going to them is not an option. Oh, like you I would also buy the battery extender with the neat.
@@IMac8939 Good old Carpel Tunnel hey? Catches us all in the end haha.. Ahhh perfect then! Then I guess colour choice is your only worry!! Honestly. This bike is insane! I've not actually found a negative that I can pick up on yet!! Are you closer to Sheffield? True North is who I use and they are AMAZING!! You won't find better and I believe they are getting stock imminently! I didn't order the extender. I ordered a full 360wh battery. No brainer with only £100 difference
Hey :) you can start this loop from the Elan Valley Visitors centre. We stay at Elan Oaks camp site when we do this loop which is just along the road from the centre. I found the loop on Strava. There is a second section which I haven’t filmed yet which we do over 2 days. The second section is also fun.. strava.app.link/iH64iu9aXyb and strava.app.link/9s8hVodbXyb
Reminds me of the speederbike scene in Return of the Jedi 🌳 I was half expecting an Ewok to jump out from behind the trees. Looks like a very exciting place to ride 🤩
I’ve always been able to ride it all but they added some new rocks which totally caught me out the last time I went down so rolled down slowly again this time to see if it was as bad as I thought and it’s really not!! Will ride it all next time… but once you stop it’s hard to get going again on some features isn’t it?
