I would comment that Irish were brainwashed by 'even' grandparents' that there's Iron in guinness: Lonliness was a huge epidemic and missing home, and dreams of a family, long gone: Finally, financial savvy was absent and saving was not encouraged: they sent money home and drank to numb themselves from the sorrow of rough living: god bless them all: somebodies sons and brothers::
The fella near the end saying he was called a plastic Paddy when he went back - that sounds like Ireland alright. You have to be looking down your nose at someone over there all the time.
The Irish have always f#cked over their own.. same in London, Australia and the USA. They love making money, but hate spending it! Regards from Co. Longford.
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There was never going to be any money, they were saving it up for the influx of creepy man who crap and lurk around Irish towns and cities. People who left Ireland are an embarrassing reminder of the pre Celtic Tiger, pre Global gobsh(te era and all the globalists want now are Hamas. Look at Ireland, so called intelligent women will support a terror group. I miss what the place should have been but I don’t miss the place as it really is.
The Catholic church caused a lot of all these problems... these men, brainwashed and some of them abused by the clergy, yet still put money on the collection plate, alone in England, grafted hard and were lost. Yes the drink played a big part, but who doesn't work hard and play hard? Think a bottle or 2 of wine and a few lines of coke with the middle classes nowadays. Everybody needs a crutch to get them through. The railways, motorways, canals, modernish buildings (from the 50's onwards regarding the buildings) were built by the Irish. Not to mention the underground work, electrics, gas, water, telecomunications etc. No other immigrants will ever come close to providing like that and end up so undervalued and in the finish become forgotten. The new immigrants without lifting a finger get all the help they need and live in relative comfort.
a lot of sad tales of the migrants of the 50 /60s in england, ofc its much the same in ireland these days, was in london myself from 1958 ,lots of good fun, work, reasonable rents beer etc was lucky to have a good trade ,a plant fitter work i liked, found my way into overseas work eventually to veryhigh paid oil pipe lines in north america,here almost 55yrs, glad to be away from the wet and cold and wretched housing situation, sooh many treacherous political parasites both england and i n particular ireland ,nothing but contempt for political class andthe so called make believe elite plonkers and parasites all
I lived and worked in England in the early 80s and early 90s..the pub culture was a very easy trap to fall into when you were young and felt invincible..but for a lot of people it was a case of being one paycheck from the street..thankfully i got out but i had near misses..plenty didn't. Im back in Ireland 30 years this year and life is good but I don't forget those days..the good and the not so good..great credit to the good people that try to help the forgotten..they're good people
I have circled back to this documentary after 2 years and wondered where these men are today. I understand the reasons why these men haven’t returned to Ireland but think the time has come that the Irish government get seriously involved in opening their arms and resources to bringing these men back to Ireland. The current Irish government is taking money from the EU to give welfare and accommodations all over Ireland to non Irish migrants and refugees yet appear to do very little to help the Irish born men and women like the ones depicted here. If I was an elected Irish politician, I would be asking why the government have turned their backs on their own kind and continue the virtue signaling to the world that Ireland is fashionably helpful to other emigrants to Ireland.
Why should the Irish taxpayer support an Irish community that lives in a foreign country ? These people worked in the UK , primarily ENGLAND paid their taxes , paid their NI , paid their dues .. the BRITISH GOVERNMENT should help these people .
THE IRISH GOVERNMENT AND BUREAUCRACY ARE THE MOST INCOMPETENT COULDN'T - CARE - LESS CADRE OF SCOUNDRELS I'VE EVER HAD THE MISFORTUNE TO DEAL WITH! I'M AN IRISH EXEC WORKING IN SYSTEMS ANALYSIS. THE VIEW PROMULGATED BY THE IRISH GOVERNMENT THAT IRELAND IS NOW A PROSPEROUS COUNTRY IS A BOLD-FACED LIE! IRELAND IS ONLY PROSPEROUS AS A TAX-HEAVEN FOR MULTI-NATIONAL COMPANIES WHO PAY TENS OF MILLIONS IN BAKSHEESH TO THE OUTRAGEOUSLY CORRUPT IRISH POLITICIANS AND THEIR CRONIES! THE CRUX OF THE ISSUE IS THAT YOU'LL WAIT TILL HELL FREEZES-OVER BEFORE YOU'LL RECEIVE ANY SCINTILLA OF HUMANITARIAN AID FROM THEM!💥💥💥
Thank you for posting this video. I am Irish and lived in London in the late 90s/early 2000’s. I used to see men like these men all the time, it always made me profoundly sad as a lot of them were such nice men that just went down the road of drinking to very dangerous levels. They were definitely lonely and treated badly by the Irish they worked for and basically discarded instead of helped when they were no longer able to work. Thank god some of them were in Arlington house and other hostels, at least they got some level of care but a lot of them died destitute, alone in old squats or out in the cold. Sometimes the only people that could identify them were other lads they drank with as they had become estranged from their families. My Dad mentioned some of the men he knew from working in England came directly from the industrial schools and were unable to cope with normal life. So sad and so let down by their own. I hope these men got the help they deserved and are still alive today.
I volunteered to help out at Arlington House in Camden, one year over Christmas in the mid Nineties. It broke my heart every single day. A lot of the men said they never went home, even though they had family there, because they were ashamed at how life had turned out for them, like they'd failed somehow. So sad. Even now, nearly thirty years later, it brings me to the verge of tears just thinking about them.
Unfortunately alcohol probably plays a big part in these stories. I found myself homeless after the break-up of my marriage which occurred at the same time as the 2008 recession. I had to leave Ireland and haven't returned since. I have since lived in some dodgy places. These stories are so sad.
The best way to keep a prisoner from escaping is to convince him he is not in prison ,the drink is the culprit here as well as childhood trauma especially those from industrial schools the man who longs for Daithi Lacha should just go home as well as the rest they have nothing to lose just sign on the dole and tell social services they are homeless they would be much better off than the limbo they are in.
A lot of the East Europeans who replaced this Irish lot are raving alcoholics too,I see them swilling strong beers and ciders on there way to work every morning in London and then crashed out and fighting each other and beating their women in public parks in the evening.
Why do they never make a documentary about the Irish that done well most people made a good living some people u gust can't help them they are addicted
Point taken Paddy but there is no denying the toll the drink took on Irishmen working in England in the 50s 60s 70s 80s most of them never to go home again.
The Irish that do well become English, within a generation they become Anglo Irish, 2generations there wearing.poppies & any semblance of Irishness is gone
you look after your own first as the priest n social worker said its moral!!! of course cowen n co have never had to live in bedsits r dig a trench at 7am in november yet they make the decisions, i met a lot of them men in london mid 90s n i had a good job there its so easy fall into the trap!!!!what i admire about them is they took it on da chin didnt turn to crime or racial discrimination tactics!! now in ireland we beg hotels n gaa clubs to house people from a war in eastern europe outside the eu who ive seen drive kia suvs best of clothes n bling plus unvetted immigrants from all over the world some of whom have commited huge crimes here!!!!
I noticed this behaviour in regards drink in Australia, was their in 2008.has this prick of a Irish foreman, shouting and roaring Monday to Thursday, Friday he would bring in a slab of beer at 14:00, by four you were in the pub and he was giving his sorrows for shouting, but he was under pressure. My saving grace was I have an enzyme problem in breaking down alcohol, the most I can ever have is 2 bottles. So I never developed the relationship to drink and pubs,but seen grown men encouraging young 20yr old to part with their money behind a bar. So they could work them to the bone on Monday, knowing they had nothing in their packet.
if you look at the bigger picture, it was always the construction corporations Murphy’s McAlpine, John Lang… but for hands-on brutality, you had to fear none but your own! They called it working on the lump no taxes, no insurance no Medical no nothing, cash in your hand at the end of the week. most of them young not knowing too much well it was more money for the drink,Now in their 60s and 70s and 80s now they have nothing ,no pension ,they can’t go home ,they’re not wanted ,can’t go back to Ireland after having spent 40 years in England with no money, they will chase you. This is their lot..
Back in 2003 as a young lad I did a semi skilled training course, there were two men in their 50's over from London and had been in silimar situations. I admire those who dealt the cold face coming home and starting again. Those men who remained deserved better, life isn't fair either
@@mjh5437 You profile would present that you had a very privileged upbringing, all those exotic locations in the 60's and the modeling mother. When I think of you commenting like this, I hope you're okay and you get out and about and meet someone that makes you smile in the near future.
A lot of the comments give the impression that the Irish are hated in England, that might have been true in the 70's when the Troubles were happening, but not really true now. Maybe the Irish travellers are not liked by many British people but the average Irish person probably doesn't have much trouble nowadays.
