Just a regular Brit with a passion for film and animation. I hope that what I can bring is a place that's open for friendly discussion and analysis on both those topics. As well as have some laughs along the way.
Also random added detail that I hadn’t noticed till about the fourth time watching this scene. When she’s wearing Vi’s gauntlets as she brings the cupcake platter out, if you look close you can she that she’s scribbled across them, including adding her pink and blue nail colors to the finger tips
A very astute and "right on the nail" assessment of this film. As a kid in the 1970s, I loved it. As a discerning adult, I find the same faults and merits that you mention here. The animation itself is very good! Good for you for taking the time to review this nearly-lost film so intelligently. A couple of pronunciation errors, though... Ray Bolger's last name has a soft "g" sound (rhymes with "soldier") and Rise Stevens' first name is pronounced "Ree-sah". But these are small quibbles. Good work!
This is a very well-researched review, put together quite professionally. I'm a huge Tintin fan myself, and I appreciate that you while not being the biggest fan of the franchise as you pointed out, put so much effort into making this. Great work. Best wishes from Iran.
Honestly, I see Death as an Antagonist rather than a Villain. You could argue that he wanted to kill Puss and got pleasure from tormenting him and seeing him flee out of fear. Which are valid arguments. It’s made pretty clear that he wanted to kill Puss. But every opportunity he had to kill him, he let him go. Mostly due to his sadism and enjoyment of him being afraid. But here’s the thing. Death values life and holds it sacred. Throwing it away is like an insult to Death. But do it multiple times and think that you’re invincible, THAT will for sure piss him off! He believed that Puss wasn’t worthy for his last life since he wasted 8 of them. And while he was upset that he couldn’t kill Puss, in the end he let him go. If he was truly Villainous, he would’ve STILL killed Puss even AFTER he learned to value his life. That’s why I don’t see Death as a Villain, but rather as an Antagonist.
Personally, I consider Death to be the teacher type of villain/antagonist. He stops going after Puss once Puss finally values his last life and chooses to fight for it rather than spend the rest of his last life just running. Teacher type villains often identify a major character flaw in the protagonist and will resort to harsh actions in order to teach that lesson to the protagonist, and by extension audience. And they likely will kill the protagonist if they simply will not learn their lesson, but you rarely, if ever, see that happen. Death only wanted to kill Puss because all he ever did was just waste away his lives, which is humorous and probably also annoying to Death, because, and this is just speculation here, he just wants everyone to value the lives they have. If they don't value life, then what's the point? He was only going to cut Puss's last life short as long as he didn't value it, at least not in the way that he should, because he did become afraid to lose it, but while Death did enjoy instilling fear into Puss, he also doesn't necessarily want him to spend the rest of his life in constant fear either as that would be a waste as well. And when Puss finally fights for his last life, even though that if they were to keep going, he would never win, Death is disappointed or even frustrated that he didn't get to kill the hero who believed themselves immortal, but he's also glad that said hero learned their lesson and now truly values their life. So yeah, I would consider Death to be a teacher-type of villain. He spends the movie trying to teach the protagonist a harsh yet valuable lesson, and goes to harsh lengths to do it, but once that lesson is finally learned, he backs off.
Thank you for pointing out how Silco isnt a good dad. Obviously he loves her guys....but love and acceptance does NOT automatically make someone a good parent. There is much more to fatherhood than just that. Its odd how many people think he is..if he was a good parent he wouldn't let Jinx live her life thinking shes the reason her family is dead. He knows how much this weighs on her mentally and her heart. He would've told her the truth, it was HIS fault. Nothing that Powder did wouldve happened had Silco not kidnapped Vander. "But that wouldn't have happened if Vi didnt take them on the heist in the first place" ....okay, maybe..but Powder and Vi's family would still be alive. Vi or Vander just might be in jail but still very much alive. And Powder wouldn't have accidentally killed Milo and Claggor. The reason Silco doesn't ease her mind about their deaths and tell her the truth (or that Vi is back) is because he wants her all to himself selfishly. Just like Jinx wants Vi all to herself. Silco also knows that if he tells Jinx the truth, shes less likely to blindly be his "pet" because she'd know he was the reason everyone was dead and the reason Vi "left" her. Anyway, Silco is a great character, amazingly written. Terrible dad and terrible person though. Love and acceptance doesnt magically make a dad a good father!!
The lowkey Vi slander in these comments is so😒 Criticism is valid, but some of you are haters. Everyone forgets all too quickly how Vi was a child too. Who experienced the same exact traumas.
I think my favourite part about death is that he is actually unbeatable. In the end its not like he fought back death to live another day and won, puss actually aknowledging that he can never beat death was just really chilling imo.
i have to disagree, Death is not defined clearly enough because people keep arguing about him, was he out to teach Puss a lesson, or to terrify him and kill him. Him screamin " i should'nt have played with my food" in spanish in the end also doesn't help my side (i think he wanted to teach him)
Silco fought for a revolution, he fought for better conditions in Zaun. And he did achieve a type of good for a lot of people. He created the groundwork so that there's trade and not exploitation of the undercity. There is actually a type of ultimate evil with invisible hands in the background, and it's the political foundations. There's also a hard choice. Do you choose to stand still and stagnate, and do nothing against the suffering and injustice? You could also act instead... On the scale of complicated+peaceful and simple+violent, what do you see as possible? Is one of them too slow? Is there too much corruption? Does the calculation add up? do you value the peace? How far can you take the excuse of doing something for the sake of others - to justify your crimes? How much corruption stands in your way to achieve prosperity for all?
I like how you pointed out that Puss's previous deaths were all stupid and preventable because that's one of the things Death takes issue with. In the Cave of Lost Souls, he angrily describes Puss's deaths as "frivolous".
Jack Horner is one of the biggest evil villain of all time. He's trying to steal the map star the powers. He's the real villain for Jack Horner his voice is John Mulaney.
Say, have you thought of making a villain analysis on Sykes from Oliver & Company? I feel like he's an underrated villain that people don't talk about nowadays
Something interesting I noticed, is that they all reflect Humpty Dumpty, the antagonist from the first film, in different ways. Goldilocks: They're classic characters who are orphans, and feel alone and out of place where they were raised. They also were fascinated by the legends they would read about. And they had complicated relationships with their adoptive animal brothers. In the end, however, they work with the heroes to stop a literally giant threat. Jack Horner: They're nursery rhyme characters, who have a lot of resources, and have hired people for their agendas, and even in some cases, used them and set them up. They die in the end. Death: They stalk Puss In Boots, and reveal that fact right before the story's climax. Also, they are some of the only people to make him bleed, they put him in situations that set him running in the first place, and the ones that make him realize he has to stop running, face these challenges and take responsibility.
Man, one thing I have to give this movie credit for above all else: The Whistle When the whistling first started, I groaned and rolled my eyes. Its just one of those concepts that is so cheesy. But they built Death so well as a serious character who doesn't act too consistently serious/no-nonscense(i.e. a character that would just be an edgelord when most other writers handle him). And used it so well as a none visual cue to an in-world character; so it never felt like something the writers where doing for the audience. By the end of the movie I really appreciated the Whistle.
Everyone talks about the fact that there were 3 villainous governors in the movie, but for some reason everyone forgets the giant that was in the beginning. There were 4 villains, not 3
*Goldi:* The antag the protag can somewhat relate to/sympathize with (think Draco or Zuko) *Jack Horner:* The one we love to here (not necessarily powerful, just infinitely hateable, think Umbridge) *Death:* The Final Boss, extremely powerful, the protag's journey is about defeating him (think Ozai or Voldemort)
this scene gave me a panic attack ngl, i couldn't string a thought together after watching it... like, 15 minutes of my brain racing in every possible direction... it wasn't fun-- that said i loved it and can't wait for another season.
This is a good video, my only feedback is I'm just not really a fan of having the audio from the film super muffled in the background, its usually ignorable but especially in moments of silence it just feels a bit strange and distracting. Not that it makes the video any less great, I just kept finding myself being a bit bothered by it throughout the video..
I appreciate the constructive criticism, really sorry about that. I've avoided making that mistake with my two most recent videos. Thanks for the comment!
There's one thing I didn't fully understand in the show: why exactly didn't Jinx at the time go to Echo? She was at her lowest point after Vi left, yet I'd imagine that she'd look for anything she's familiar with, which would also be Echo.
There are only 2 reasons I can think of. Either she was afraid Ekko would hate her if ever found out the truth (just like Vi did), or Silco kept her away from anything familiar in order to distance her from the past and keep her codependent on him. More than likely though, it's a combination of both. No doubt that when Ekko DID eventually try to save her from Silco, she pushed him away because she was too guilt ridden, paranoid, and didn't wanna risk being hurt by someone she loved again (especially if Ekko ever found out what she did).
@@kristopherhayes1957 Vi slapped Powder and seemingly abandoned her, which did make it seem to Jinx as though Vi hated her. Having the person that most supported her leave must have had an impact, and made it seem as though if not even Vi would seemingly trust or love her, no one would, after all, this is all an analysis from Jinx perspective
@@kristopherhayes1957 Vi hit her, berated her, then left her there and never came back. Now that last part wasn't Vi's fault and Vi regretted leaving quickly after, but Powder didn't know that. Who knows when Ekko even thought to look for Silco. Maybe Ekko couldn't considering he was a kid and Silco was now in place of Vander.
Vi only needed space to ground herself after losing their second family. The scene does a good job of showing how she realized she lost control of her emotions- (which is totally understandable, considering everything that happened- I'd explode too). She then decided to take some time for herself to work through her feelings, before figuring out how to survive alone with Jinx (again). Maybe if things had gone differently, they could've found Ekko and become Firelights with him. So she wasn't actually leaving. But of course Jinx doesn't know that because she didn't see Marcus take Vi, which was his own way of saving her from Silco
Death is *not a villain;* Death is Death. Simply put, Goldilocks was misguided, and Jark Horner was the best placeholder for the villain, and he did his job immaculately.
I think the saddest thing about Jinx sitting in the Jinx chair is that it’s one of the few times where there are no voices, no visions, nothing screaming at her, no delusions, no tricks…nothing… None of the characteristics of Jinx are present as she makes that decision. It is a decision unusually made out of calmness and silence. She just calmly sits down and quietly accepts that Vi will never accept her the way she did before. And it’s brutally heartbreaking to see her make that decision without any of the demons that got her there to begin with.
I noticed that too. I think the reason for this is that she has finally accepted herself as Jinx, leaving all the hallucinations behind as it was not what she did that haunted her but her trying to come to terms with what she did. In accepting herself as Jinx, she accepts those things as having formed her and being apart of her, leaving her calmer than ever… a new Jinx
She would have never chosen powder in a calm way because for her to accept those events that haunted her, she has to accept herself as Jinx. Powder would still require the acceptance of others, some kind of forgiveness that she would never receive and it’s not who she is… she has changed. Therefore she had to choose Jinx or else she would be lying to herself. I think it’s heartbreaking not that she chose Jinx over Powder, but that she was forced to do so and there’s nothing that could change that. Let me know what you think (if anyone ever reads this, that is)
Goldi and the bears are gonna go take over Jack's pie business. Thus Baby finally will get his purple suit and Papa will have all the pies he can eat before hibernating, and Mama (and Goldi) will have a family completely happy. And hopefully the ethical bug can keep the business going in an ethical direction and help out those poor baby unicorns
This scene used to scare the fucking shit out of me as a kid, those damned green eyes in the fire place. It gave me nightmares (amplified by sleep paralysis with demons that looked like Maleficent).
