Such an amazing device and layout! Just the thing I've been looking for. It's intuitive to use and so much easier than having to manually map parameters. The way that you can just move a slider and the currently selected parameter is instantly mapped to it is fantastic. Love those instant blue hand controls too. Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful tool! :) ❤❤❤
Oh yeah I didn't mention that in the video. You can still use your mouse or other means of controlling parameters you've mapped to a Knobbler slider. 👍Thanks!
Awesome thanks. I have the V2 bluhand working, but not the 'non-frozen' one (it only has 2 dropdown selections "music.local" & "iPad.local", but doesn't detect my Mac or other specific ios devices). I prefer to just connect it to OSCRouter app & farm-it-out, make bluhand 128. I'm wondering if maybe I don't have some (.json .js files? folders? etc) in the right places (if I'd need to that for 'editing')🤔 But this is amazing! Can't wait to work out a Knobbler routine.
how are you storing mapped parameters in the m4l device? i was making a similar jsui device but without the tosc part for use with windows touch screens and just couldn't get the parameters to save after reopening a set. really cool device though
Hey @godboat. - Thanks for the Q. If you open the device for editing, then right-click one of the [bpatcher] objects (they are the 32 black rectangles with some text ("- - -") in each one) and choose "Object ... Open original knobSlot-bpatcher.maxpat, you will see a [textedit] object with a comment next to it. When a Knobbler slot is assigned, the path of the parameter it's assigned to is written into the [textedit]. Since it has its "Parameter Visibility" set to "Stored Only", then whatever the value is gets stored as a param, which are saved with the Live set. When Live loads a set containing the knobbler, the param system puts the value back into the textedit, who then emits the path value out its left outlet, which can then trigger everything to get set up to listen to and control that param. If you want more details, feel free to email me at zack@steinkamp.us and I can send screenshots or answer deeper questions. 👍
Heya @claudiongleur -- I kind of suspect not. From Ableon's page here: help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/8506527153308-Push-standalone-Max-for-Live-Device-Compatibility they mention: Connection Kit OSC Send Does not work. The OSC Send device in the Connection Kit uses the [udpsend] object in Max, and I suspect this is what is not supported on the Push3. Knobbler uses the same device to communicate with TouchOSC, and so I don't think it will work. But give it a try if you have Push3 and report back! I'll include the results in the README file with the project.
I just deeply tested your tool. It works overall very well on my setup (Ableton 11, PC) and TouchOSC (iPad). However, on TouchOSC, I use BUTTON objects in TOGGLE PRESS mode. This allows me to activate or desactivate MIDI filters on Midi tracks. These filters let me play in live with my synths if the MIDI filter is on, the MIDI signal goes to the synth and vice versa. This way, I can layer my synths in live. With TOGGLE buttons on TouchOSC, it’s very easy to press and turn multiple tracks on or off simultaneously. But with FADERS, this is impossible. Could you add this functionality to your tool ? For example, you could have 8 buttons at the top and 8 faders at the bottom. That would be amazing and allow me to fully use your tool. Also, I found a small bug: when you change the name of a macro or the name of the track in real-time, it’s not reflected on TouchOSC. However, when you reopen the Live Set, it works and refreshes correctly. Thanks.
Hey @alexandrebout4762 thanks for checking it out and sending your ideas and bugs! I'll have a look at the rename bug. I also found a bug where the color doesn't change on Bluhand if you change the track color, so there must be a common element there. I'll think about the button thing. One thing you could do in the short term, assuming your TouchOSC buttons are sending MIDI, is to add another tab to the Knobbler TouchOSC template for your buttons, or even modify the Bluhand tab to add your buttons. You could share that with me so I could see what you had in mind. Thanks again!
If you're curious what kinds of songs you can make by playing something like this live, well here are a couple of examples: zacksteinkamp.bandcamp.com/album/autobot4
Very nice! I'd previously applied this sort of idea to rack chains using Mapulator 3, but the amount of control possible with Chiastic Slide is way better. Great device :)
Hey @_CRiT_hits_ thanks! Simulscrub is one (big) track in the song. The drums, synths, etc are additional tracks. The sample loaded into SimulScrub is a full performance of "In C" by Terry Riley. Link is in the description. :)
Your channel is criminally underviewed for how much quality content there is! I bet you that will start to change soon. I just found your channel from another youtuber who made a video about your devices, I'm sure the algorithm will really start pushing out your videos soon!
Hey just wanted to say you truly made my day and prob many more to follow, with the M4L plugins on your website, with many of them its like you read my mind. I honestly prefer this collection hugely over the pages of assorted M4L plugins listed from various people many of which are paid. 2 thumbs up from the Netherlands
3's company... my god, that's a theme i thought i'd never hear 'gain. ha ha ha cool. wanna eventually simulscrub some bushy robot lies into granny-u-later iii :)
ha ha ha...Q-uality time w the daughter. she'll be prepared for astronauting out into her own creative space soon after that masterclass. going to check these in the coming days. some damned useful kit here. also of course a good way to visualize multiplied modulation signals. thanks for sharing
fun ha ha ha. dropping some killer ideas here. investigating your device creations after this. i've been misusing Echo device lately. this funked up track reminds me of the wild shit the skinny puppy side project Download was putting out in 90's-early y2k. funky stuff. or maybe some wacked mid-period Autechre. don't you dare delete it give it more life. thx for sharing
This is an absolute gamechanger for my mixing and mastering workflow. Thank you so much! Would it be too much to ask if we could get an option to just have each track's parameters show up as a randomized or selectable color other than the track color? I ask because when working, I'll make my channels all black and only color the groups and it would be great to be able to just select the color for each parameter in the ipad or maybe just randomly assign colors to all parameters where all params on the same track get the same color like you currently have it. This is so amazingly useful! Thank you!
Hi Clint -- Thanks for the message. I've added an issue here to track it where you or others could comment or vote. github.com/zsteinkamp/m4l-zs-Knobbler3/issues/10 Originally I designed Knobbler with the Live Set as the sole source of truth, but recently added the ability to change the displayed name of the parameter, so I guess the door is open :)
@@zsteinkampyou are a legend! Knobbler is the exact functionality I’ve been looking for with TouchOSC and in a midi controller in general. So happy to finally have it. Thank you so much, again!
