Welcome to Weekend Firefighter! Where all emergency service professionals can come and practice their craft. Let's be honest, our life is full, our families are priority #1; we only work about 10 shifts a month. That is about the same number of weekend days there are in a month. I compassionately think of all of us as "Weekend Firefighters".
I don't mean it to be derogatory. Quite the opposite! We need to be efficient with the time we do spend on sharpening the saw, training in our craft and becoming masters of our cognitive and psychomotor toolbox.
This is my goal. I hope it is your's as well. Follow me as we make the best use of our time as Weekend Firefighters.
2:07 - Fires do not require oxygen. This is less applicable to residential fires, but a variety of common industrial chemicals, such as acetylene, will combust spontaneously when in the presence of a chemical which can accept electrons like the halogens.
This series amazes the Hell out of me. I was a Volunteer Fire Fighter and went through Fire Fighter 1 Training. While yes, I learned a lot in that class I feel I didn't learn enough about fire dynamics and consequences of not understanding how dangerous fire can be. The LT and CPT at my station trained me well on SCBA use and hose use. I feel this series should be made a requirement for ANY firefighter training! When we respond to a fire call it isn't our little fire in the burn pit!!!!!!
I've watched the whole series today. As a Cert member, I'll never hold a hose or enter a structure but I'm training for my FF support level & all info helps me do what is MY job, to understand & support those doing the hardest work. I may be a lowly hose scrubber but I'm a better educated hose scrubber. Gr8 series for anyone even marginally involved & possible lifesavers for fire fighters. Thanks guys!
25:24 Only if you have put the holes in the fire room. Even then, you are introducing the fire into the attic. Now you have a structural fire. He is trying to talk you out of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!How big is the hole in the ceiling compared to the one in the roof? Where is the hole in the ceiling? In a room with the door closed to the hallway? Is there flooring in the attic? How about two layers of insulation? Plaster and Lathe ceiling? How about break the window at the fire room and put water on the Burning Material?.
23:54 Vertical Venting! LISTEN to his tone of voice! They can't tell you to Do something or Not do something for Liability reasons. He will describe everything you have to do to Make it work. He is trying to convince you that there are Faster, Safer and more efficient ways to vent. 25:15 That means, when you open the roof and YOU ignite the attic gasses, the fire inside is making more energy/pressure than that hole can release so you will NEVER get the heat from the first floor to go up and out the roof hole. You won't even raise the smoke level. 25:24 When have you EVER seen a hole cut in a roof and a hole punched through the ceiling directly over a burning room? AND, if you Could do that, you have allowed the fire from that room to get into the attic BEFORE it could get out of the house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have pulled that fire through the house instead of Out of it. 25:40 VVing is done throughout the USA JUST because that's what you have always done and in No Way is it done in a way it can possible work. That's Human Nature to Do without Thinking. 26:00 Do you see any Improvement in the fire at the front door? Aren't things supposed to get better? The house on the left even got a Lot worse! You are risking your lives up there for this result? 26:30 Before Vertical Venting, you have a contents fire. Open the ceiling and you now have a structural fire. That does Not sound like fire Fighting to me. When have you Ever seen quick water application that eliminated the flames through the roof quickly? 26:40 No explanation from me needed here! 28:10 Again, when have you ever seen water application coordinated even close to vertical ventilation or any type for that matter? At least with horizontal ventilation, you are giving the heat and gasses a direct route Out of the building and away from the interior and structure and it is Minutes faster! 31:00 Vent, water. Vent, water. Vent, WATER!!! You will Never see that with Vertical Venting! With horizontal venting, you break the window at the fire room and there is the seat of the fire right in front of you. One person is in control of both venting and suppression. No communication with other people needed and the room is soaked in 5-10 seconds after the window is opened. A couple of SECONDS can mean the difference between life and death! 33:11 A crew is trying to go down the stairs into the basement while another grew decides to break out the basement windows. Two teams with no coordination and communication. The answer? Keep the stairway door/chimney damper closed. Break out the basement windows and immediately apply water to the burning material. ONE operation controlled by ONE person. When the basement is soaked and you think the flames are gone and you have lowered the temperature buy more than 1000 degrees, then you go down the exterior basement stairs if they are available. If not, you go down the interior stairs with the nozzle set on a cone of water that is as wide as the stairwell so if there is a flareup, you can push it back and out the basement windows or have it between you and the fire as you back out. 33:30 39:00 Come on people! This is not brain surgery! The main floor is a cork, a Damper! Hit the basement through that window and cover every square inch. You instantly eliminate the flames and drastically reduce the pressure. THEN, you vent the main floor windows and doors and soak and Visible Burning Material from outside. Sorry. That was braindead stupidity and nothing else. Not a tactic that mysteriously didn't work. 34:26 I have seen fire fighters squirt water through a door or window for 10 -20 minutes where no fire or smoke is showing while the rest of the structure burned. I have seen that Many times. 38:20 Please pay attention to this! 39:00 See 33:30. 40:25 Knock it down to eliminate temperature and extension and then go in and Mop Up. 41:40 Do you want to go in, wait a minute! Does your Family want you to go into that house where the kitchen is 1400 degrees to extinguish it or do they want you to do it through the window and go into 200 degrees? Try to Macho your way out of that question. When you knock down that fire through the window before an entry team could get organized and dressed, then they could go through every room in that house and opening the windows would only make conditions better instead of giving the flames/pressure in the kitchen a place to vent out the bedroom windows. 42:10 This the way to do it but you will almost Never see an American department do this. It ONLY makes Perfect Sense! So to leave it burning while you go inside, has to be the Macho Hero factor. There isn't another explanation. 44:40 If you hit all the burning material from the outside through the windows, this isn't even a factor. The only fires will remain will be small ones that you can overcome quickly with a tight cone of water. Use a straight steam in a hot area and let the flames continue, that's how you not only Make steam, you maintain it at a dangerous temperature. Remember, the moisture needs a constant heat source to keep it dangerous. Put your hand over a pot of boiling water and start to lower it. You can get very close to the water as the humidity you see has already cooled. 45:50 This is why it is important for the nozzleman and his crew should physically control venting and suppression and it can ALWAYS be done. Communication does not exist in many departments and crews so that SAFE ventilation can be performed by crews in different locations..
This list of videos will show you how intelligent Vertical Venting is. In other words, climbing on the roof of a burning building to cut holes to make a house a chimney. ru-vid.com/group/PLkp0E1ao1XEy2uMomAtjWfScRFcCUmwwv
This list of videos will show you how intelligent Vertical Venting is. In other words, climbing on the roof of a burning building to cut holes to make a house a chimney. ru-vid.com/group/PLkp0E1ao1XEy2uMomAtjWfScRFcCUmwwv
This list of videos will show you how intelligent Vertical Venting is. In other words, climbing on the roof of a burning building to cut holes to make a house a chimney. ru-vid.com/group/PLkp0E1ao1XEy2uMomAtjWfScRFcCUmwwv
99.999% of humans have No Clue how to make Vertical Venting work and Horizontal Ventilation is Faster, Easier and Anybody can figure out that the window should be opened at the fire room and then extinguish it with water.
Vertical venting already happens. Firefighters must complete the primary search and while they do this, they have to go interior to avoid extreme heat inside from steam.
Mega "Vertical venting already happens." This is a vague statement that really means nothing. As far as search and rescue is concerned, you might want to watch this video a Few times to understand what Search and Rescue Really means. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gq13D_NRQIE.html&list=FLFsNbu_AalilSMdtgmxsiPA&index=18
9:38 Vertical Venting doesn't work as planned. Make believe that window is a hole in the roof. The window is actually a better vent because there is a more direct flow path and it's safer to access. That window "Vent" is doing Nothing to relieve the heat, smoke or pressure at the lower level. Neither will a hole in the roof but it is a lot more dangerous.
1:10 As long as you have water in hand! Otherwise, you just helped the building burn better. 18:20 All this could have been compressed into, "Don't vent unless you have a charged hose ready." 21:15 What he says goes for searching before fire extinguishing. You have All that to do before you can go in. By that time, I have extinguished the fire through a window! 23:50 BINGO, BINGO, BINGO! Perfect! Beautiful! The fire is creating More energy than the hole in the roof can let out because you just mad the fire Bigger! Listen to the Frustration in his voice as he describes Vertical venting. Vindication for 8 years of having to listen to endless braindead comments from FFer Children Zombies that believe VVing Just works because heat rises and someone Told Them it works! 33:30 You keep the main floor tight and blast the basement through the windows. You eliminate the source of pressure and heat! Then you vent the main floor windows and hit any room that shows fire. Then, you go into a much safer space to mop up. 35:10 Listen carefully to this! 38:00 BINGO Again!!! 39:10 BINGO Again! 41:40 BINGO Again! 42:10 He is taking the words right out of my mouth. I have been saying this for Years! 43:24 I can't believe this! UL and NIST are right on the money! It's the childish hero wannabe fire Fighters that are not listening and are screwing everything up!
JB91710 Ur too much. He is teaching ventilation and how its helpful when done correctly, umm, i believe i said that also. He never said hitting the fire first then search is correct, he said, something to think about. He did show where proper ventilation is useful, you preach dont do it period. If u have the manpower to do it I would agree on hit the fire first, alot of depts dont have the man power to hit it first and search. Every fire is different and places are build differently, he shows brick structures, wood structures are different and he says that. All firefighters are not wrong as u preach, we are all trained differently and thats what we need to remember. This guy admits these are controlled situations, a house fire isnt so when u post a video dont just watch it, turn up ur hearing aids and really listen to whats being said. He didnt say anything i havent heard before. He isnt preaching the stupid shit u preach, u have never said every situation is different and he did. Now thats all i have to say about you and your stupidity.
@@megagames3605 You did say 35:10 didn't you? When's the last time you saw a well coordinated venting and water application? When the last time you saw a fire fighter extinguish an Obvious interior fire from the outside? When's the last time you saw a roof opened up and the attic fire was quickly extinguished through the ceiling? When's the last time you SAW a video that PROVED that VVing worked? Actually saw interior conditions improve After the hole was cut? What he says here is correct. Unless you have an Intelligent and 3well coordinated crew, VVing will only burn the place down Faster and Better than if you just left it alone. The American fire disservice constantly Proves through RU-vid videos, that it is ONLY good at allowing buildings to Breath better and getting stuff to burn much better than before they got there! PROVE me wrong! Don't Just say I am and do it in a Childish way!
@@thomasmarks5497 You aren't LISTENING to what he is saying. You're saying I don't believe in proper ventilation at all. That's pretty childish considering I always spell out in Detail, where and how to ventilate the fire room window. I only say that Vertical Ventilation shouldn't even be considered because all it does is make the fire worse. Now LISTEN to him again! You are reading what You want to hear into what he says. No matter how Perfectly to Vertically Vent, you are drawing the fire through the house, allowing the gasses on the lower floor to mix with fresh air and you are turning a contents fire into a structural fire. Then he says, open the fire room window and put water on the burning material. When it's laid out in detail, you still can't see the Obvious. I suggest you read and Study all my comments here because all you are doing is looking for random words to twist into your childish way of communicating. Learn something here because you sure didn't learn anything with this video. ru-vid.com/group/PLkp0E1ao1XEzg384QZ4ovMA_6P7gCY3nJ
4:27 That's why Search and Rescue without a water supply is Foolish. If you can't save yourself with all that fire gear on, how are you going to save a person in their night cloths? Vent Water, Vent Water, Vent Water! 12:30 This is why Vertical Venting does not Work! That small hole in the roof and the smaller one in the ceiling can't handle the pressure from the ignited attic and No Draft is created. to have created a high pressure Cork in the attic and Nothing is going out the hole in the roof from below. At best you get the smoke below to mix with incoming air and flashover the lower level. 20:00 You fight fires from the upwind side!!! 26:26 No matter WHAT! You stop the engine or ladder, activate the pump and Deck Gun or ladder nozzle those windows until the flames are gone and you feel the material is soaked. You are probably talking 45-60 seconds after the wheels stop. No More Threat! No More Energy and Pressure! 27:45 This is just braindead stupidity! Period! Where was the water? 30:26 Where is the WATER application?
I agree with a lot of your points. More firefighters need to watch these videos to have a scientific approach to firefighting. Regarding searching without a water supply I would say it's a calculated risk. I search with a water can and go to the seat of the fire first to try to isolate or extinguish. We leave a member at the door so that if integrity is lost they can inform the rest of the crew and get out of there. A benefit of searching ahead of the line is you aren't slowed down trying to work around the attack team. At times the fire location isn't always known and by searching ahead you can direct the hose line to the right location. You can't stretch the hose to the fire if you don't know where it is. Once water is applied to the fire it can also greatly reduce visibility due to steam conversion and possibly injure victims with steam burns. There are a lot of factors to consider like fire extent, known victims, possible victims, how far behind a hose line is, access and escape routes, etc. With all that said searching ahead is not something to be taken lightly. It's not done to be a hero and come out with crispy gear but to save people. We run an inside search and outside VES team so if you can't make access through the interior the other team can do so from the outside. My departments priority is fire attack first but if the truck gets there first they will initiate a search and a hose line should be close behind them. This video shows that conditions can change in an instant and wind direction and strength are important things to consider.
@@smokeater435 Ask Worcester Massachusetts and Porterville California how searching without water is working for them. You can't protect victims and firefighters without stopping combustion and cooling gasses. Don't forget, the victim has night or street cloths on. ru-vid.com/group/PLkp0E1ao1XEwwRoFv6T1qy8Y8aEMtMjZw ru-vid.com/group/PLkp0E1ao1XEx3tX0UaMK3tUJ6ih7BwLPs As I'm sure you know, a house gets pressurized during a fire. Doing a 360 will most likely tell you where the fire room is or close to it. That's where you want to create a pressure release location to give the heat and smoke a direct route out of the structure. Unlike Vertical Venting which only spreads the fire and draws in inward. putting water through the windows directly on the burning ,material drops the interior temperature by 1000 degrees once the flames are gone. Steam can't maintain dangerous temperatures if the heat source is gone. V - Vent, E - Enter, S - Search doesn't take into consideration extinguishment and protection. When you reach a victim, you are protected but they aren't. If you left the fire burning and spreading, that victim is toast. I'll bet there isn't one department that brings in fire blankets to cover the victim immediately and they don't provide them with a Buddy Breather Hood that is attached to their tanks, because they don't even exist. Search and Rescue does nothing to protect victims. Getting them out can take a lot of time. V - Vent the fire room windows and extinguish all Visible Burning Material. This can be accomplished before an entry team can get the door open with Tank Water.. E - Enter and extinguish any additional fire and cool the gasses as you search. Protect the victim with a fire blanket and a Buddy Breather Hood. Attn: Scott! V - With the flames gone, vent more windows to raise the smoke ceiling throughout the structure. E - Extinguish all remaining fire. A dead or injured firefighter is of no use to anyone, especially the victims. When a Mayday is called, all attention goes to the firefighters. The victims are on their own.
3:33 Gaseous fuel and Pressure! 12:20 Just about every room in a house has a window. If you have 1300 degrees at the ceiling you do Not want to go into that room to cool it down and extinguish the burning material. You break out the sashes in the fire room windows from the safety of outside and hit the ceiling with a straight stream and wave it around. The hot gasses which are under pressure will explode out the window and the instant application of water will eliminate the flames in 2-3 seconds and soak the burning material in 3-5 seconds. All the gaseous material will go right out the window. THEN, you go into a Much safer interior to mop up. Even or especially if there are victims inside, you do the same thing exactly. Would you want to be laying on the floor with 1800 degrees right around the corner? 13:28 That's why you want the windows out in the fire room so all that hot gas will go directly outside not through the house. If you can see the BM through the window, then you can put it out without having to go in. There is No reason for that guy to be in there before the fire is extinguished from the outside. 17:35 There shouldn't be a fire fighter in there in the first place. That room can be vented and extinguished through the window and door. 18:45 The flames are Not moving toward the source of oxygen!!! The gasses are igniting due to a constant supply Of gasses and the fresh air coming in the door. They are moving toward the door because Pressure is building up and it is Releasing out the open door. Flames do Not go looking for oxygen. They have a very Low IQ and can't think that far ahead. This was a pretty much Useless video as it was full of useless science and nothing about Safe and Fast gas venting and fire suppression. Stop talking and just put the fire out!
Four years and No Comments! Where are all the Professional Fire Fighters? The Heroes! Where are the Brothers? Shouldn't they be here if they are Real Fire Fighters? 2:45 Listen to this you Fountain or Lawn Statues! 5:00 People have to start Using the brain that grew in their skull and stop Waiting for someone to come along and fill it for them. Fire fighting is not rocket science. There are only a few Basic things you need to understand in order to figure out what to do at Any fire. 5:08 Don't you mean the Front Left? Everybody knows where t5he front is and 5they should know where the left side is. A & B are one syllables just like Front and Left. Why change it and confuse everyone? There is NO good reason other than to make the fire fighting lingo Cool. There aren't That many choices to stop that fire. How do you make the necessary choices at fires? By keeping things simple and work off the basic fundamentals, not turn the structure into a complicated jigsaw puzzle. 9:00 This is One good reason to extinguish all Visible Burning Material from the outside! 10:20 This is a Real good reason to open the nozzle to a medium cone of water rather than a straight stream to cover and soak a larger area of BM to eliminate the flames faster. Flames that threaten, create steam and maintain it. That's also why it is important to have young and healthy fire fighters so they can move Faster to get the job done Quicker. 11:10 This just proves my previous comment. Get water on All that material as fast and Safely as you can. 14:10 BINGO! Suffocate until you can soak. 24:50 If there was no hole in the roof and the attic was basically tight, the fire would suffocate itself into a smoldering and Not expanding nuisance instead of an expanding threat. It will Wait for you to get there and wet it down. Climb on the roof and cut a hole and you have turned the attic into an Expanding Bomb! Get a hose under it. When you are ready, break out the gable end windows or pull out the vents, cut a hole in the ceiling and insert a nozzle open to a 50% cone, and wave it around. The added pressure will push the heat out the gable ends and the water will soak the BM. No one falling off or through the roof. When you have a pressurized attic from BM and you cut a hole in the roof to vent it, you actually ignite it which creates much more pressure which the hole can't release. When you punch a hole in the ceiling and do not hit the attic immediately with water, the pressure will release Into the floor below. 25:18 Stay off the roof of a burning building! You horizontally vent the windows at or near the fire rooms which gives the heat and smoke a DIRETCT route out of the structure. Use wind direction to help push the heat and smoke out. A building is Not a Chimney and can't function like one! What if you punch a hole in the ceiling from above and it is in a room with the door closed? What if by doing that you have now allowed the pressure from the attic to escape into that room onto a little girl laying in bed?! All that information and No One is here to read it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where are all these so called Professional fire fighters? Polishing chrome or playing video games?
Those chiefs listening to him won't take it back and teach it to their fire fighters because UL and NIST are taking the Fun and Heroism out of the Job and turning it into work.
Ok I'll bite. Firies aren't responding to the comments because they are doing these seminars/ lessons at work and don't feel like doing it all again once they get home. 5.00, front left, right side, left side. What if you don't park at the front? What if the house isn't built with the front to the road like many rural houses. Or its positioned at an angle on its block? A,B,C,D sectors always remain the same. Alpha where the truck parks then clockwise. So everyone's on the same page.
The rest i more or less agree with. Get water on it. Stay of the roof of an unstable structurally questionable building, don't ventilated unnecessarily and unprepared. Young and fit though. Yes and no. Every firie must be fit, but as they age and gain experience they work smarter and more efficiently, not harder. Many old firies can keep up with or exceed young gung ho guys.
@@abfire19 What if there are three trucks parked around the house? There is ONE front door, porch and sidewalk to the street. I think Canada does it counter clockwise to confuse it even more. There is No positive reason to change what everyone already knows.
All the commenters in other videos who think they know everything about fire fighting and in four years, there are only 13 comments here. here where the work and learning takes place. Ha! The two fire fighters he referred to are right. K.I.S.S. Find what's burning and stop it as Fast and Safely as you can while using the least amount of water. Think! 500 pages of a manual probably contain 10 pages of usable material The rest keeps the manual writers employed. 3:18 The Correct answer to these questions define a Real fire fighter and separate them from a wannabe who just shows up and thinks they are a fire fighter. So far, this guy Might be heading in the right direction.
I am a complete outsider, but visited some coal mines where flow control was in place for hundreds of years - kids opened and closed ventilation doors to control flow. I wonder why that experience was not propagated to common firefighter knowledge ? I thought the mines had firefighters too so they would realise the flow control importance much earlier where they controlled methane and dust propagation with the doors. It is just a historic question that i don't understand. Maybe it is only me who connected these facts...But if anybody has some insight on the flow control development history, it would be interesting to share. I just don't believe you really need simulation programs to see the connection between airflow and heat. All of your videos are very important. Thanks for the effort!
Put wet stuff on the hot stuff, and do not show the predator where to hunt by giving it air. Opening the front door attracts the predator unless you make a hole out back. HHMmmmm?
H factor would be like wind chill, only instead of sucking it away, it is juicing you up..... In the Southwest USA, the sun is hitting you at 3kw per meter in the summer.....
Paul Look at the number of viewers in all these videos and how many comments there are. 1.1 million fire fighters that can't Think and participate in a conversation. UL and NIST aren't the problem. It's childish hero wannabes that aren't listening and treating this like a job!
These videos are great training aides for our volunteer department. We watch frequently and discuss and compare with our past calls and it's amazing to realize where we've screwed up or succeeded. We simulate where possible and apply what we learned. With a limited amount of structural fires in our district we've found it more critical to be ready when we do have one.
@@fireguy284 Every job has to have a Job Description. A frame of mind. A work ethic. In fire fighting it Should be, "Eliminate the threat as fast and safe as possible while using the least amount of water." Fast, Safe, Least amount of water. That makes you think about how to act. 1. Fast: Find what's burning with a 360. 2. Fast: Get a charged booster line to the fire room window. 3. Safe: Break out the window to vent the pressurized gasses to the exterior. 4. Fast and Safe: Extinguish the Visible Burning Material through the windows. 5. Safe: Enter a much safer environment that is 1000 degrees cooler just by eliminating the flames and wetting down the material. 6. The victims have been protected by the elimination of the heat and the further venting of windows. 7. Water: You surgically apply water by thinking of where every drop is going. You use it as if you could run out at any second. You use it as if you had to pay for it but you Think and get the Job done which is Protection not Search and Rescue. S&R is for heroes and sometimes dead ones. Ask Worcester, Ma. about that. Tank Water application is much faster than crawling around in a burning building.
It's a play on how career firefighter's schedules can be laid out on a yearly calendar. In my case, I work 2 days on, 4 days off; 10 work days in this month of February 2017. We are all just "Weekend Firefighters". - More importantly, it's how we use that limited "work day" to build others up, train, work hard, learn from our experiences and mentor others. We are at a disadvantage with our limited "work-day" and should strive to be efficient with our time and energy. I feel accurate understanding of fire dynamics (critical thinking) can help us be the most proficient firefighter we can ultimately become.
No surprise, that video was taken down. I was sent a cease and desist letter to remove two videos I had originally created based on those same lectures.
This is some seriously great work. Well done. So great to get the scientific support to give us all fresh critical knowledge so we can do our jobs more effectively but even more importantly SAFELY. Thanks a bunch
Thanks for all your effort putting this series together. By far the single best compilation of fire dynamic research. A must watch for any member of the fire service.
