I tried a bow with fishline instead of hair once. It just didn't hold the rosin, so it slipped on the strings. Nothing seems to work as well as real hair. Sorry I don't have a good alternative.
@@patrickwoolery6000 i tried the same yesterday but befor i rub the fishingline with sandpaper to roughen it. Its not perfekt but somehow it works now.
I did. It took me close to a decade from start to finish, but would have taken less than a week if I'd just done it in my evenings and weekend. I just get distracted by other projects sometimes!
It is also important to note that it is a art when it comes to building instruments. The amount of work, detail and technical data that is put in by Rauno Nieminen is unmatched and the world will be almost lost without him, buildning johikkos. He is a true master. Also Anders Norudde. He also knows exactly what he is doing and isn't afraid of experementing.
Both of them are inspirations for me. I don't claim to be any kind of expert. I'm sharing one of my builds is all. I think this was my fourth and I'm now working on my twelfth (but didn't document it with video, I'm afraid). Rauno Nieminen deserves tremendous credit as a builder, but much more for being so much a part of reviving an instrument that was almost unknown outside a very small circle of people.
Hello there. I don’t know much about music so I must ask how do you tune it? Do you twist the small dowels to increase the tension on the strings or something I can not see? Very nice btw👍🏻🇸🇪
The pegs are like violin pegs. A tapered peg in a tapered hole can hold a string better than you'd think. There's a wider part at the back of the peg, like a paddle, that allows me to grip and get it tuned up to the pitch I want.
Dear friend, could you tell us more about the assembly? How to calculate the beaker, the size of the window, how to install it in the rack housing? Where I want to reinvent the wheel)))
There wasn't much calculation going on. I had the cigar box and I knew I wanted the bridge to be about 13-14 inches from the tuning pegs. I just figured everything out as I went along. This actually took me longer than making an instrument from scratch. I thought the box would make it faster, but having to figure it all out and work around the shape of a cigar box make it harder, not easier. It was a fun project, but one that I doubt I'll ever do again. Using solid woods allows for making a better sounding and better feeling instrument. I'm sorry I can't really give you any helpful hints, here.
Thanks for the video, it's a special feeling to hear your instrument for the first time! And as for the nylon strings - I have them on my ukulele and they hold the tuning really well.
That's good advice. I tend to feel comfortable with certain tools, but you are absolutely right to remind me because it is normally the tool that seems like a friend that actually ends up causing injuries.
@@patrickwoolery6000 also you should add a riving knife to the table saw to prevent kickbacks (i'm not shure it just lookjs like ther might be none) would a be a shame if such an excelennt crafter looses fingers
I think you are really wise to add that extra hollow space. People do it with necks of other instruments and it always makes a difference. Sounds very good.
Hello, Patrick. Thank you for this video! Could you please tell me if you don't use the lélek in your lyre design, which is usually located under the bridge and transmits the sound from the top deck to the bottom?
In this one, yes, I do have a sound post. I have made others without it, which is interesting to compare. Without, it has a much more nasal sound, though it isn't appreciably quieter.
@@avendim I'm afraid it didn't end up on camera. Part of the issue with trying to shoot video and build something at the same time. The sound post in this case was glued to the back before I put the soundboard on. I know that's not the most traditional way to do things. In a future build, I will try doing the "correct" thing and inserting it through the sound hole.
@@patrickwoolery6000 Thank you for your reply! I'm leaning towards the gluing option for now, too. But it would be great to see, how the sound post installed the classic way.
Hello, Patrick. Thank you for sharing your experience in making lyres. As a beginner, your explanations are very clear to me. I would like to clarify a few things: Does the bow in this video also contain fishing line? What is the distance from the peg to the bridge in this Lyre? With regards, Dmitry
The bow is real horsehair. That's usually my preferred string material, too. I have tried bows with fishline and they just don't hold the rosin well enough to sound decent. The length from peg to bridge is about 17 inches or 43 cm (430 mm).
This is a delightful technique, actually. The backs of the fingers contact the strings and change their effective length. A shorter vibrating string plays at a higher pitch. To see a real master of the instrument (which I am certainly not), look for a couple of videos of Lassi Logren. He makes the instrument sing.
Thank you. I am enjoying the opportunity to experiment with easily available materials. The plywood and nylon don’t sound like solid wood and horsehair, but they don’t sound bad at all!
