LeBron is an amazing athlete. I don’t believe LeBron has the will to be a winner like Jordan has. Look at LeBron and he should be able to mop the floor with almost any ball player. He was genuinely gifted with qualities that comes around every century and what has he done with it? Lasted a long time in a watered down powderpuff version of basketball of the 80s? Good for him. With a build like he has that is to be expected. If I score one point a game in a million games I would be all time leader scorer. I would not be the GOAT.
Red pill blue pill matrix eats the sheep’s minds as usual so effortlessly. Goat debate is not between either jordan or Lebron. Both guys are amazing great players. Jordan is slightly better since he’s better at defense and scoring more than Lebron is better at rebounding and passing relative to position. But both jordan and lebron played in eras that are extremely luxurious with comp rules and circumstances compared to the 80s and especially pre 80s West Kareem bird Bill and Wilt top 5 ever and all of them objectively better than lebron and jordan whom again are all time greats in their own right. Once you remove your bias emotion and favoritism from the equation u will objectively perceive the clear cut truth that media has y’all focused on the wrong guys for goat debate and trained to think non critically in thinking there’s no other or better options than either guy
If you ask Copilot or Chat GPT MJ is always on Top. Computer collect the records available in internet and make decision not personal opinon just like human does.
There have never ever been a goat debate between him & LeBron if there was ever to be one if should of been Kareem .even tha Jordan zt was a victory for Mike ..Michael Goat Nuff said
It is against the law to compare Lebron James or anyone else to Michael Jordan. It is a federal crime that can get you a death penality. MICHAEL JORDAN IS THE KING OF BASKETBALL.
If jordan bet on great team I will give him the goat he never beat a great team in there prime the league was dead when he won to the goat you have beat a great team name one 😅😅😅😅
How can you say that the teams he beat were not good? Eastern conference was really tough back then but let's just look at the finals teams. Bulls beat the Lakers with Magic (top 5 all time player) and Worthy, Trailblazers with Drexler, loaded Suns team that won 62 games with Barkley (top 25 all time), great Sonics team that won 64 games with Payton (one of best defenders all time) and prime Kemp, and maybe the most well rounded team in the Jazz with top 25 players all time in Stockton and Malone that won 64 games in 97 and 62 game in 98. These teams were all really good teams and it is not just superstars that make great teams. Look at 73-9 Warriors team. They just had Curry and rest of their team don't even make the top 75 list of all time players. Great teams are more about having some great players but also just as important are players each having their role and chemistry. Superteams of today loaded with individual talent are not winning (look at Lakers with Lebron and AD, Clippers with 4 greats, and Nets team with Durant and Suns team with Durant, and there are others).
Sad jordan only won for six years lol and didn't bet the best lebron bet the worriors one of the best teams ever name one great team jordan beat in there prime zero sorry
No debate. Lebron is the greatest all around basketball player. Jordan might be the greatest scorer or maybe kobe.basketball is a teamsports. Lebron is the goat. No debate.
Even if it were close in stats, and it isn't, imagine thinking someone was the goat when they sell their team downstream and blame them, fire coaches, trade players, fake injuries, flops, cry to the refs over literally everything, don't even run the floor to get back on defense and offense, and choke in the 4th. Ignore the fact that Jordan has more rebounds and steals when he played how many years less? How KOBE played one less season and LeBron has 1200 more turnovers? The list of things goes on and on. The man is a joke.
It wouldn't be difficult to see how MJ would have done in the NBA . Before MJ went to the NBA he played against legit Allstars as a member of the Olympic team and beat the NBA best players 8 in a row going 8-0 so I don't know what your talking about.
When you really look at the two LeBron does not stand to the challenge Jordan never made excuses when he lost Jordan never blamed the reference and Jordan never blame a lose on the players around him but LeBron looks for them all he maned up with no excuses
Please lol i know a guy has ten rings not the goat was always the best player on the court come ten better than six rings dont get it keep hope alive 🙏 👍 🙌
There is 1 clear G.O.A.T. Lebron has had the most combined all-stars, shooters, veteran minimum notables, and teammates taking paycuts to stack his teams from top to bottom. Always switching to new teams with new prime stars and handpicking players to fill out the rest of his rosters with teammates that he feels will compliment him. Despite having the most help, he's had the most failures, especially for the amount of help he's had... 4-6 in finals (Losing record) 22-33 Wins/Losses (Losing record) Most finals losses (Losing record) Most swept in finals (Losing record) Had the 6th worst +/- in a finals 2004 missed playoffs 2005 missed playoffs 2006 eliminated 2007 swept 2008 eliminated 2009 eliminated 2010 eliminated 2011 eliminated (Biggest meltdown ever) 2012-2013 Wade/Bosh/Handpicked squad 2014 eliminated 2015 eliminated 2016-2018 Kyrie/Love/Handpicked squad 2019 missed playoffs 2021 eliminated 2022 missed playoffs 2023 swept 2024 frist round gentelman sweep 2020 Bubble ring favored older players that needed rest/Faced Heat with 44 wins, Butler's 2nd best teammate was an injured Dragic lol, and Lebron had AD along with the rest of his handpicked sqaud... Lebron is 3-4 against 60+ win teams in the playoffs, and MJ is 7-2 against such teams. Lebron is 10-9 against 50+ win teams, and MJ is 20-7 against such teams... Lebron’s rankings... Total points - 1st Points Per Game - 5th Playoff PPG - 6th Scoring Titles - 6th Finals MVP Awards - 2nd All Defensive First Teams - 5th Player Efficiency Rating - 3rd Playoff PER - 3rd Win Shares/48 Min - 8th Playoff WS/48 - 3rd Playoff BPM - 3rd Offensive BPM - 2nd Playoff Defensive BPM - 2nd Game Score - 14th MJ's rankings... Total points - 5th Points Per Game - 1st Playoff PPG - 1st Scoring Titles - 1st Finals MVP Awards - 1st All Defensive First Teams - 1st Player Efficiency Rating - 1st Playoff PER - 1st Win Shares/48 Min - 1st Playoff WS/48 - 1st Playoff BPM - 1st Offensive BPM - 1st Playoff Defensive BPM - 1st Game Score - 1st MJ leads Lebron 21-7 in every Advanced analytic, Per stat, and major accomplishment, which includes scoring championships, all-defensive first teams, MVPs, DPOY, PER, Offensive rating, Defensive rating, O/D Rating Diff, W/S per 48, BPM, Career Winning Percentage, NBA championships, Finals MVPs, Finals losses, Finals W/L record, Playoff winning percentage, Career PPG, Steals per game, Blocks per game, FT%, and less Turnovers per game. Lebron's only 7 categories are TS%, VORP (Longevity), Finals Appearances (Most help all-time), assists per game, rebounds per game, FG%, and 3P%. Kareem outscores Lebron in these categories 14-11, having a better resume himself. Just below is how MJ scores against other all-time greats... Kareem - 14 Lebron - 11 MJ vs. Kareem (16-9) MJ vs. Lebron (21-7) MJ vs. Magic (18-10) MJ vs. Duncan (21-5) MJ vs. Russell (11-4) MJ vs. Shaq (19-6) MJ vs. Wilt (14-2) MJ vs. Durant (22-6) MJ vs. Curry (22-5) MJ vs. Bird (21-6) MJ vs. Kobe (24-3) MJ vs. Hakeem (22-5) Lebron only shoots a higher FG% than MJ due to the number of shots he takes at the rim. Lebron shoots below 40% from beyond 3 feet of the rim for his career. Lebron has the liberty of shooting so much in the paint because of all the floor spacing shooters he has had, and there's no big centers waiting on him in the paint. MJ was a major floor spacer from midrange for his team, having only 1-2 shooters for a select number of minutes in any game. Also, the bigger the position, the higher their FG% is supposed to be. Lebron only shooting a decimal higher is actually bad when it's put into context. Switch Lebron and MJ's shooting charts, and you'll be absolutely shocked how high MJ's FG% would be if he shot from where Lebron does. Same with how low Lebron’s FG% would be shooting from where MJ did. Lebron only shoots a higher percentage at one place from distance, and that's from beyond the 3 point line. But that's only because of the emphasis causing players today to practice and shoot from there more often. In the only 3 seasons that MJ shot 3 or more attempts from beyond the ark, his percentages were 37.4, 37.6, and 42.7 (higher than Lebron ever shot from beyond the ark)... Imagine if Lebron had 1 all-star, 3-4 good role players, and some bums to fill out his roster for up to 7 years of his career while playing in the tougher conference, kind of like MJ. Then Lebron would have what? 2-3 finals appearances max? 1-2 championships max? Maybe considered a top 20 player of all-time at best? Lebron, having the most help all-time to get into the top 3 conversation, has tainted his own legacy and shouldn't be put ahead of Kareem. If people still talk about Bill Russell (RIP) to this day for having so much help and have him all over their top 10 all-time lists, then Lebron’s legacy is also tainted forever... MJ was one of the greatest all-around players of all-time. He once averaged 32.5/8/8 for an entire season, 11.4 assists in the 1991 finals, and a triple double over a span of several weeks while playing PG. MJ handed basketball duties over to Pippen after his horrific rookie season, at Phil's request, to help him grow into a decent teammate for the betterment of the team. MJ would then focus on his two-way specialty game so Pippen could be productive for the team as well. But Pippen never put up the stats mentioned above that MJ put up earlier in his career. Don't listen to the narratives that the media has to put out there for their own ratings. They needed to manufacture a fake goat in MJ's absence for the NBA's ratings and their own. But they'll eventually tell more truth when Lebron’s gone for some time, while they lift a new star for ratings...
For me this made up debate comes down to two things: During their 10-yr prime - No other player ate as much as MJ. And of course we All "Wanted to be like Mike" 😎
All you have to do is listen to the excuses LeCon lovers have for being the GOAT then listen to em denigrate Joker's accomplishments. Like Jordan didn't play against the same level of talent. Today's players are better... Then say Joker doesn't deserve 3rd MVP. Were playing in a soft center era where he isn't challenged in the paint.
Literally the ONLY reason that anyone EVER compared LeBron to Michael Jordan is because LeBron has been in the NBA for like 25 years, or whatever the hell it is! If he had to go to college... NO DEBATE! If he had only been in the NBA the same number of years as Michael Jordan... he'd be compared to someone much closer to his skill level... like Charles Barkley!
LeBron James is way better than Michael Jordan. LeBron James has scored more points, has done more assist, more blocks, and more rebounds than Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan was just lucky to have a great coach with a really good bitch to have them rest so Michael Jordan could succeed. LeBron James has not had it all. That’s why Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant were completely overrated idiotsNever really respected the game except they were a bunch of self-centered douche bags. LeBron James is one of the best team player who has succeeded at all categories to where the other two idiots never did especially Michael Jorden. Michael Jordan can go screw himself. Never really respected the game except they were a bunch of self-centered douche bags. LeBron James is one of the best team player who has succeeded at all categories to where the other two idiots never did especially Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan can go screw himself
I'm confused as to what the faulty analogy is. I agree the east was very weak in Lebron's first run to the finals and I also agree MJ's 1st round opponent's were dominant teams his first few seasons. I think in all his playoff losses the team he lost to either won the title or lost in the finals (except the 59 win bucks team which was loaded with talent).
You have a faulty analogy. MJ played the 59 win Milwaukee bucks in the first round at age 22. Lebron played first round team with 41-41 record. He also played at 41-41 team in the since round. He played a 52 win team in the weak eastern conference finals that season. It was known that while we came out of the eastern conference which was so weak would simply be fodder for the western conference champ spurs.
Lebron is too scared to compete one on one so he avoided the dunk contest his entire life. He would have looked like Deandre Jordan that year DJ participated. Really terrible but also would have lost
Offensive rebounds is about heart and desire. Defensive rebounds are about positioning. Lebron stands under the basket and doesn’t play defense. He guards the weakest. Man on other team and darts to basket or stands 10 feet from his man to position for all rebounds so he can fool those who either don’t understand basketball or are paid It’s been so obvious to me for last 6 years
