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Yes, Just make sure you are in Inches or MM before you open your DXF file. The control will see numbers so it will try to make a MM part in Inches and vise-vera. T.P
Hi Jordan. On the SMX, you are stuck with the X-axis tool path. There is no option to change it. It should be noted that in the new RMX, you can cut any face mill or pocket at any angle you want. If you need to face a part in the Y-axis, the easiest way to do so is to just use a mill event and then use a repeat with your desired stepover and number of repeats. I hope this helps you! T.P.
The biggest difference os that you only need one solid model to cut any side of the part. With DXF, you need one for each side. On top of that, DXF is only 2D so you have to refer to your print for all of your Z dimensions. T.P.
Adam, I apologize for not having a print for this part. We made this video more than 5 years ago. Basically, I had a piece of aluminum with a 3.125" hole in it that was 2" deep. I needed to bore it out to 3.4" and add a .050" chamfer to the front of the hole. I used the inside cycle instead of the bore event because the bore event doesn't have the ability to have multiple cuts, a finish cut, or a chamfer to the front of the hole. I hope this helps you. T.P.
The DPM RX3,5 or 7 all use 40 taper tooling. You can choose from NMTB or CAT. The only difference is the length of the draw bar needed so be sure to order your machine with the proper draw bar for the type of tooling you choose to use. FYI, NMTB tooling has an extra 1 inch of shank on top of the tool holders where the draw bar screws in. Generally, there are more tools available if you use CAT. T.P.
I'm usig it on a brandnew grinding machine and it's lagi und full of bugs. Don't know if it is siemens' fault. But no chance to make money with this system at the moment.
Hi Nicholas! What you may want to do to check this is as follows. 1. I usually go to DRO and call up tool #1 from my program. 2. I send it home. 3. I save temp. 4. I shut down the control. When I turn on the control and open temp, it will already be looking for tool #1 so the zero position should be the same as you left it. If you don't use tool #1 before you save temp. you should just have to call up the tool that was in the cutting position and it will show you the correct position. I hop this helps you! T.P.
@@trakingpat2750 "Send it home" as in part zero? What if you can't because your origin is in the material, part, or chuck? Would you just park it at a known dimension like X6 Z6, then open temp, then just set your work offsets to 6 and 6?
Happy 4th to you and yours Pat. Is it possible to create a DFX file from a conventional program in the RMX created from a simple sketch. Also how about editing an existing DFX file and saving that ?
Hi Patty, as long as you have the DXF option, you can do any of the things you mentioned. 1. You can program all of your geometry straight from an existing DXF file. 2. You can create a program in your ProtoTRAK and save it as a DXF. 3. You can make changes to an existing DXF file and then re-save it with the changes. You should see most of those things if you search for DXF videos. Thanks for asking! T.P.
Hi Patty! I thought I answered this last week but maybe that was in a different video. As long as you have the DXF option in your control, you can create a program from any drawing or DXF file. Once you create it, you can save it as a standard ProtoTRAK file such as .PT10. You can also take any ProtoTRAK file and save it as a DXF file by using the "file type" drop down menu. T.P.
Hi Eric, is this a DPM or a knee mill? The DPM has a manual quill so it will know if you move the Z head or the z quill but the quill is fully manual. On a knee mill with 3-axis, it has an electronic Z handwheel so in DRO, you just turn the hand wheel to move the Z. Other videos should show this but if not, please get back to me. T.P.
@@patrickfitzsimmons5187 Thanks for the quick response. This is a bed mill. I figured out that pushing the "JOG" button was the missing step for me. I was confused why I could move X and Y, but not Z, until I pushed the JOG button.
Ran across this from a LinkedIn posting. The most fascinating stuff I've seen in a hot minute. Of course, it meets my nerd index. I simply adore (!) the opportunity to watch professionals do professional sh*t very well. Thanks!
Well, you have stumped our tech representative! They said that they can't see a reason why it wouldn't work, but it would have to be tested. We'll get back to you as soon as we can, but please share the answer if you get to it before we do. ~PK
@patrickfitzsimmons5187 Agreed. Could you please explain an internal hexagon program for 15 mm? I've tried point to point and A G E irregular profile. I know once I see it a giant light bulb will go on but I'm stumped. I'm very thankful for your videos sir
Hi Pat, really been enjoying your tutorials for this software, its a great bit of kit and I enjoy using our proturn RLX 355 at work. One thing that has confused me, is after I switch the machine off and come back the next day, my X offset for all my tools is greatly off. Do I have to re-input the X offset every morning? I know I do with Z because thats telling the machine where my parts face is, but I thought X would stay the same as it's relative to the spindle centre. Cheers
Hi Xavier! Thanks for the pat on the back...My team and I are glad to hear these are working for so many people. If you have an RLX, at the end of the day, send your machine back to home. Next, go to PROG IN/OUT where you save your programs and press SAVE TEMP. Now, you can shut down your machine. The next morning, before you move anything, go back to the PROG IN/OUT and press OPEN TEMP. It will warn you to make sure the machine hasn't moved. Just say OK and when you go back to DRO, you will see that it is exactly where you left it with the program, tools and part zero still in tact. If you have an SLX or older model, you have to do it a little is a little differently. Since there is no save temp in the other models, you just have to go to Tool #1 in the DRO mode. Next, send it home. After that, turn it off. When you turn it back on, just go to DRO again and set your X and Z axis's back to numbers you used for your home position. It will be right back where you left it and you just have to re-open your program. Let me know if you have any other questions. I'm sure others will be able to learn from these questions as well. T.P.
Really glad to hear that, Billy. We appreciate the positive feedback. And, we just released the latest software for RX machines, v3.1.0. You can download it here: www.southwesternindustries.com/software/page/prototrak-rx-cnc-software
Good morning Pat! If I am on a 2-axis machine, will it pause at each hole location for me to peck and drill manually? Thanks! (K3 knee mill, rmx controller)
Hey TRAKies, I made a mistake when I shot this video and I didn't catch it. We repaired it and added a note to make sure everyone understands that I meant to enter .175" as the tool diameter modifier, NOT 1.75" Sorry for the confusion! T.P.
Hi. Clear Off is a separate option. Your sales rep can help you get that when you're ready. If you need help from us at TRAK Headquarters, please give us a call 310-608-4422 or send us a message: www.southwesternindustries.com/contact/request-a-quote-or-demo ~PK
@@TRAKMachineTools shoot,I guess its too late. I have a quote already from dealer in Canada, they did not it this on the option and i just got message the Cap expenses already approve.
Has a tapered helical boring feature been added? This would be great for a project I'm hoping to do in the future and would sway me towards a new trak mill
Just watching your videos in 2024 trying to decide whether to purchase two proto trak cnc lathe to replace Harrison Alpha cnc that are old and worn out. Really liking the ease and your explanation on threading and thread repair. Most of our work in hydraulic repair and reman requires threading. I think I'm sold on proto trak systems mostly do to your channel. Thanks alot
I really don't understand the concept of x begin and x end in the context of the lathe. I know you tried to explain it in another video where you held up your hand like a U shape, but it just doesn't make sense. Is this diagrammed in any of the manuals or online somewhere?
Hello, It sounds like you are referring to a groove, is this correct? If so, here is what you need to know. In a OD or ID groove, X begin is the diameter you are starting to cut the groove from. X end is the diameter at the bottom of the groove. These two change places when making either an ID groove or an OD groove. This is why we don't ask for major and minor dimensions. In a face groove, Z begin is the face of the groove and Z end is the bottom of the groove. T.P.
From the last video to this one, I was expecting the tool library you had set up previously to persist through reboots. Is that just a wrinkle in the offline software - it doesn't retain the tool library through restarts but the on-machine controller does?
Hi, First of all, I need to make sure that you have your dongle key in your machine and you have the advanced features turned. Assuming you do, are you setting up your tools in the library or just in the program tools? If you set them up in the library, they will stay in there until they are deleted. If you set them up directly in the program section, they will stay with the program so if you save the program and open it at a later date, you will know which tools you used the last time to ran that program but you will still have to touch them off or assign them from the library. Does thus answer your question? T.P.
Trakking Pat. So far I have only seen multiple passes in the Trak control as Z DOC. Is there a way to do irregular outside profiles with multiple contour passes to better use side of end mill?
Hi Joe, the canned cycles of the SMX control do not have a way to do what you are asking however, the RMX does. It is a newer option called Clearoff. With Clearoff, you can describe the outside of the part and also whatever profiles or bosses you want to leave standing. The control will start at the outside and work it's way in. If you only have an SMX, you would have to create multiple profiles changing the dimensions for each one to fool the control into giving you what you want. Otherwise, you could program and run it from G-code. T.P.
Hello, I think I answered this on a different video but just to clarify, after you finish setting up your tools, the last tool will already be in the spindle and the DRO so it makes sense to use that tool to set your part zero in the DRO mode. In reality, you can use any tool from your program as long as you call up that tool in DRO before you touch it off the part. T.P.
So you only touch top of the part with the last tool? I got confused at the end. Im trying to learn this control since my job has one of this machines.
Any tool in your program can be the one that you touch off the part to set zero however, the tool you use has to be in the top line when in the DRO mode. Usually, if you just set up or added a new tools(s), that last tool will be in the DRO so I always suggest that you use that tool to set part zero. Once you go to run mode, the control will tell you which tool needs to be loaded. I hope this helps you. If not, reach out again. T.P.
@trakingpat2750 thanks alot for the reply. I will go Head and and try to do a simple program. 2 guys from my job had the training on site, bit unfortunately I was in vacation I wasn't able to attend, but I'm learning this little by little thanks
33:30 I'm working with one of these 1440EX lathes now. I'm trying to cut a long, fine thread using a live center in the tailstock for support. In your video, the thread cutter makes a Z+ move right before cutting the thread. Is there anyway to eliminate that move? It will run my threading tool into the live center otherwise. I did a dry-run on my current machine to confirm, and yes, I'm seeing exactly the same thing. I've programmed a lot of threads using G&M code on actual CNC equipment and never had seen this before. Sometimes the conversational programming process is quite confusing for us traditional programmers. I could upload a program using G&M code to address the part I'm working on now, but I would like to be able to execute a simple OD threading move in the conversational format without making that Z+ move. Any help would be appreciated.
No, but you don't really need one. All you need is to use a turning event so that the knurling tool can travel into the part, then travel along the part and pull away from it at the end. T.P.
My goodness!!! .... In my opinion using a brush is dangerous and anyway, the cutter won't last long with that amount of cutting fluid... Coolant should be used to lubricate cool and wash the swarf away.
Yes, on the RLX we can. You simply switch from standard thread to NPT, choose the thread size and the control fills in all the values to make the thread. We currently do not have a video on this but it is in the works. n the meantime, have your local TRAK rep show you how easy this is. T.P.
It's exactly the same as how I did it on the RLX here. You may want to watch a few more of the videos on both the SLX and the RLX to understand what's different from from doing outside and inside cycles but the process is always the same. T.P.
Mark, We no longer make the SLX control but our new RLX model does have the ability to do so. Our lathes can make up to a 10 lead thread and all custom threads such as acme can be programmed. As for the SLX, it has the ability to cut the thread but as you can see from the video, you would have to mount your tool upside down because you have to tread towards the headstock. T.P.
The ID tool holders mount to the outside of the turret. They are available through our service department. I show what one of them looks like around the 2:50 minute mark. You can see what they look like on the 8 position turret but they have a special mount that fits in the slot of the 4 position turret and then the ID holder mounts to that. T.P.