What type of material is the gasket made out of? Curious before ordering because depending on the type of material the oil could possibly soak through in a sense. Seen a couple random copies on eBay made from several different material ranging from what appeared cardboard to one made out of nitrile or a composite of the two. Not sure if you’d or have tried try a “ rubber” type gasket as this would eliminate the use for rtv.
I use Felpro. Mine was the first then the Chinese copied it. I think they use cardboard and fold the gasket up. Several people have bought the Chinese version only to buy mine later on.
Thanks. This is an awesome video...! I have rust on the inside corners of the seam, so you can't see it unless the door is open and even then you have to look for it, but I'm keeping my 2012 Super Duty for the long haul since I don't use it for work anymore....
I work on Honda engines and everything on the engine is RTV silicone sealed. Leaks are NOT common. You can even start the engine a few hours after completing the assembly. All you do is scrape off all the old gasket material, hit the surfaces with some brakleen and wipe down and then good to go. This Ford TSB has you doing all sorts of weird stuff trying to get a sealed interface....and now a guy in his garage inventing gaskets and sealing techniques trying to solve the issue! I think I will just go with the all-aluminum Ford oil pan and not deal with this. This is crazy. But I hope your solution worked for you!
The 3.5 has an aluminum pan replacement not the 2.7. Ford has developed a new plastic pan with an oring but you also have to replace the valve covers which costs more money. Most DIYers are just cleaning up their old pans and using a real gasket. When I started this years ago there was no fix at all and Ford had that crazy TSB. Today while Ford has a fix it’s expensive. Now the Chinese are copying my gasket and using cardboard not Felpro. People still buy my gasket with positive results so it’s helping people which is great. I also include a 2 page set of instructions. Been working on cars 50 years now.
I’ve got a 2013 F150 but my friend has the 2015. When he told me he had a plastic oil pan I I couldn’t believe it. This is complete bullshit. Ford like everything else in this country has turned to shit. Maybe if they didn’t put so much damn money into these worthless electric vehicles, we’d get a quality product. This oil pan issue should NEVER been a problem. I usually buy a new truck every 10 years or so. The ‘24 f150 is $59k? For what? A chance to replace plastic crap that should be made out of steel? I am done with ford.
Not to mention all the electronics, I love interior comfort but it’s a lot that will cause issues. I have a 2015 F150 last summer and found oil dripping down and sure enough oil dripping down the side of the pan. Not even sure if I can do this labor by myself…
@@minecrafter4623 I hear ya. This fix is a big commitment. Not to mention it’s going to require a certain amount of experience. Like I said, I’ll be in the market for a new truck soon, but it this point, I think I’m gonna go old-school and buy a truck from the 80s that’s in good shape. Less electronics equals less shit to go wrong.
What a wonderful fix. You saved my head from exploding. I used the gasket it worked perfectly. Now why can’t Ford come up up with the same fix. Thank you for your hard work
Just finished installing the gasket, and i wanted to thank Ray! All your suggestions really got me through this project. I had to reuse my old pan since you I couldn’t find one anywhere. This project takes multiple days and a fair amount of time on your back under the truck. But I’m happy to see the gasket working and no leaks from the pan.
I just ordered a gasket last week and got it put on last night. How long did you let the rtv cure before you filled the engine with oil. I was thinking about letting it cure 24 hours you think that’s long enough
Hey ray im interested in purchasing a gasket. I just bought a 2025 2.7 eco boost sn just noticed it’s leaking. I would like to purchase the gasket but my issue is I can’t find a pan an I seen you said the pan needs to be replaced along with the gasket.
I think a lot of people these days are reusing their old pan. If you could find a new one that's the way to go. I think O'Reillys sell them aftermarket called Spectra Premium.
As of March 20th 2023, Ford released a new TSB for 2015-2017 oil pans. They discontinued the gasketless oil pans and built new ones with gaskets. My dealer in Orlando managed to get two and they want to replace what's now my 3rd new oil pan. I'm crossing my fingers.
@@johneddys2351 Not anymore. The new service bulltin is TSB 23-2083. The part number is JT4Z-6675-E. You will have to replace your valve covers with the updated version also; to allow the engine to release pressure buildup. The new oil pan with the old valve covers does not allow the engine to release pressure. There's a huge back order for those valve covers too.
For the folks wanting to do it but can't get a new pan. I said screw it and pulled my old one off and re sealed it. 2 weeks so far so good. I used the gasket as well as the permatex. As long as you don't destroy your old pan getting it off, it should be fine to re use it. The big thing here is making sure both the block surface and the pan surface are CLEAN. When you think it's clean, clean it again with brake cleaner. I did not use the ford surface prep wipes. You have to take your time with this job. If you do a half way job to get it done in a hurry, you will probably run into issues again. I did have to use a razor blade to make some of the bolt holes on this gasket a little bigger because they didn't line up perfectly, but not a big deal. I wish I would've tackled this job sooner instead of trying to wait for pans to come available.
Great comment. It took me forever to clean all this oil up. I let it drip for a couple of days. I used a power washer on all those covers. Do you think I should start punching the holes bigger? I had no problems with the fitment when I made the first one.
@bryanbrown1476 what was your method for removing the oil pan to ensure it did not get damaged or warped? I was thinking about using fishing line to cut through the gasket material than clean up both sides very well. One person mentioned using a little emery cloth or sandpaper to scuff the oil pan material. Your thoughts?
@@msschill my pan was leaking so bad that it didn't take much to pry it off. I just took a flathead screwdriver and carefully worked my way around to pry it free. then just took a plastic putty knife and gasket remover and really worked it until it was clean. I don't think I would use any type of sandpaper. I also didn't use the surface prep wipes just because I didn't have any. 4 or 5 months in and still dry as a bone. just take your time with it. good luck!
I sell these gaskets under the name Ray82nd on eBay. Note others on eBay and Amazon are selling lesser quality gaskets using cardboard not Felpro with no installation instructions or phone support and directing you to my video in their listing. www.ebay.com/itm/224464515504
Thanks for the Info. I think you need that spring and check ball in there that you removed ? Also was the Drive bolt and washer kind of a problem and could definitely drop down into the timing cover ?
Spring and check ball definitely not needed with the new hoses. Been running for years no problem. That washer is too thick it can’t possibly drop but take it easy and make sure it’s well seated in the socket when you surgically remove it. Best of luck.
Hi, 2016 F150 2.7 4x4 here with 103k miles, did an oil change tonight and noticed front of oil pan was wet with oil, looked closer and looks like front crank seal is leaking, front of motor is wet with oil up all around crank pulley area. But had oil drops hanging off front oil pan bolts. Do the pans leak in one particular area or is it random?? Loved your video Ray, thanks for the work, if it's my pan I'm buying one of your gaskets for sure. Thoughts?
I would clean it all real good that way you can see exactly where it’s leaking from. If it’s coming from the front crank seal I would try using AT-205 reseal to try to get it to stop. Scotty Kilmer swears by this stuff. If it’s the pan, well the gasket works.
Just got one in the mail from you. Looking forward to replacing the pan and gasket on my 2016 F-150. Thank you Ray! This part doesn’t deserve enough credit!
I did a quick Google search and found it at varsity ford parts www.varsityfordparts.com/oem-parts/ford-oil-pan-fl3z6675b?origin=pla&msclkid=c0da7feee9131630641e1c837524ed7f&**LP%20Shop%20-%20%2475-%24100&C%202015%20-%202015%20Ford%20Oil%20Pan%20FL3Z-6675-B%20%7C%20%2480.32
Hi Ray, I purchased your oil pan gasket and it is still leaking. Even after following the instructions step by step. Am i missing something cuz i made sure to follow everything correctly?
@@Raydarman1 Yes, new pan and everything. Even used the "right stuff". It would be great if i could get a replacement because this oil leak has been a pain for sure. I have a new address that i would like to send the replacement too
@@midgetcj what’s your username name on eBay? Check the front bolts. I’ve heard that ford may have drilled these clean through so it’s possible they are leaking through the bolt holes. So in this case you just need to remove 3 or so bolts and RTV them back.
I just ordered the Spectra, I don't believe it has the built in gasket so I'm hopeful. Should be in my hands by July 3rd, I'll order this gasket as well.
Just ordered one! I planned on scheduling pan #5 but I'm so tired of taking it back that I'd rather try this and hopefully be done with this headache. Thank you for taking the time to make these, I can't believe no company out there makes one
I found a oil leaking on my lower arms bolts when i did my level kit and took it into the dealership. Haven't heard back is that where you find the normal pan leaks?
Finally got all the parts and started disassembly to install new pan with your gasket - 1 question did u have to remove all 3 bolts for differential? How did u access the top one above the pumkin - I can get a socket on it but can't get a wrench in a position with room to turn it?
Do you recommend replacing the oil pan when adding this gasket? If the fault is Ford’s design, not necessarily that my specific pan is bad, I’d rather not spend more money on a new oil pan when your gasket is the fix.
I know this is a late comment but my 2015 "just started leaking" according to the scam artist quick lane attached to my local ford dealership. They quoted me 1100 dollars to do this job. I already ordered your gasket and my oil pan FL3Z-6675-B just came in. Can you post the TSB link? also did you do the 24 hour dry before applying and how long did you let it sit after application? Thank you for the video. Edit: nevermind found the tsb.
I did let it drip overnight then came back to it the next day. If you use “the right stuff” in the caulking tube you can drive it as soon as you put it all together. Call me if you have any questions.
Just shipped it. No torque spec just snug the bolts up the RTV will work it’s way in the threads. Just tighten in a cross cross pattern. If it’s super tight it will squeeze all the RTV out.
@@angelduran3469 put it on the block. Then put the gasket on the block. Then RTV on gasket. Do not put RTV on the pan. It will just scrape off when you try to fit the pan past the timing chain.
If your reading this it’s because you’re sick and tired of the leak. My truck is still under warranty, but just found it inconvenient to keep taking it in so I decided to do it myself and of course came on you tube to get some pointers. That’s how I found this video and decided, why not? Well it works. IT WORKS! Thank you. I can park in my drive way now.
If it’s still under a warranty hire a lawyer. I did and won. Mine was still under the power train warranty. Got tired of taking it to dealership. 2 years later it started to leak again.
Regardless what you do (even adding a gasket), this oil pan could still be subject to leaks. The oil pan is injection molded plastic and has a high coefficient of thermal expansion, relative to the aluminum it is adhered to. That means these two dissimilar surfaces will be slowly moving in a scrubbing motion (shear force) everytime the oil heats or cools, and even when it's not running, changes in temperature will do it too. The RTV is the best choice because it flexes, but there is likely 30 inches of sealed surface and although the oil pan isn't pressurized per se, it does experience some pressure (positive and negative) depending on starting or running. All this adds up to a torture test environment for that seal area. There is no fool proof solution for that plastic oil pan, when mated up to an aluminum surface. In 2019, Ford went to a cast-in-place high temperature o-ring looking gasket. This type of gasket does allow slippage and was probably the best solution to this otherwise flawed oil pan design.
Mine still isn’t leaking. I’ve sold 100’s of these no leaks. That gasketed oil pan doesn’t work for 2015 to 2017 year it will blow your motor according to the TSB. The gasket provides way more surface area than just the single RTV bead per the TSB.
@@Raydarman1 Ok, I was aware that that o-ring design wasn't for the 2015 - 2017, I was just saying that I believed they went in the right direction. Our conversations have helped me think through this more completely, which I appreciate. My job these days includes designing plastic injection molded parts and although I'm no plastics expert, I wouldn't be surprised if the main issue with the RTV gasket is adhesion to the plastic pan (not the aluminum). It wouldn't be uncommon for the part to still have some mold release agent on it (and permeated into it). When my new pan gets here, I'll look at that very carefully. I'll certainly clean the plastic surface, but it might also break the surface of the plastic flange with a light sanding. If my absolute best effort doesn't work the first time, I'll try using a gasket. Are you still selling them? The eBay link didn't work the couple times I've tried it.
The TSB says not to use that pan for 2015 to 2017 vehicles. “CAUTION: 2015-2017 model year vehicles are not compatible with the press-in-place gasket oil pan. Installation of the press-in-place gasket oil pan will result in engine damage.”
This video is for informed mechanics. Being a rookie at this stuff, this video leaves me lots of questions and concerns. I will say however this is well worth reviewing for great tips if you’re intent on doing this yourself.
I’ve got a 2017 F150 with the 2.7, one oil pan so far under warranty. You might have mentioned it? Ford just came out with a new redesigned oil pan for the 2.7. It has a built in gasket. Ford Boss Me channel on RU-vid just posted it. It looks like a superior oil pan design. I’m hoping it will work on my 2017.
