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@@emmettdeangelis3354 Thank you for the kind words Emmett. David still loves Porsche but has been traveling with his NEIL DIAMOND band. youtube.com/@neilforever?si=-1pj0JTpnCJxNTnc
As an owner of a 50th Anniversary Club Coupe I am interested in why these cars seem to languish in value as opposed to a 993 Carrera S which I also own and follow. 1,726 US Carrera S value 155k? 50 Club Coupes value 100k....air cooled vs water but in much lower numbers...I am guessing that's the reason...yet it seems odd...IMHO
BTW, I have never seen a Club Coupe sell for anything close to $100k. Most 50YAs sell for $100k-$160k, depending on color and options. CCs sell for >$150k.
Thank you for watching. As is with all cars selling at premium over MSRP we advise to proceed with caution. Your observations about the inventory are very astute and could be a sign to keep a close eye on the prices for that model.
You'd be surprised how much attention the 928's get among the air cooled 911 owners. Most of them respect 928's a lot and they find the car very interesting. Times have changed.
Great episode. You really concentrated on finding the essence of each flavor of SL through the generations in terms of value and performance. That's not easy at all.
Is this a wide body? Looks like one is it because the two sides at the bottom are changed to match the bigger wheels so optically this looks wide? This is so pretty
This is a great show. But how could a 997 ever reach the value of the air cooled? That is just an insane proposition. 964 and 993 were produced about 65-68K each and half of them are cabrios, targas and tiptronics (a lot of them in Europe). Very few manual coupes, really. They produced over 200.000 997's and 221.000 units of 991's. You never consider the production numbers? The new water cooled cars are literally mass produced cars whereas the 964 and 993 were hand built, completely different generation. How on earth could those values rise to the level 964 and 993? Outside the turbos and special models it's never going to happen, imho. Same for any 996. And hey, I drive a 996 4S but these are mass produced cars. They produced 1.5 times more 996's than 993 and 964 combined.
Well done guys. I have owned 3 generations of sl. You showed a pic of my current sl63 which I am immensely enjoying. Although R129 is and will always be the best. Current sl is not selling and should have never used the name. It’s simply a amg gt.
Excellent episode. Enjoyed every minute. And you're absolutely right about R129. That and W140 were the last really over-engineered, top quality Mercedes-Benzes. Just like when the transformation from hand built 964's and 993's moved to water cooled and new mass production like with 996/Boxter, Mercedes quality went down. Both Porsche and Mercedes seriously cut the production costs at that time. I think the only reason why R129 prices haven't gone up is that they made so many of them. I think more than 200.000. Ironically it was too popular. Keep up the good work. Great channel.
The big change for the 997 Turbo, rarely mentioned, is the AWD system. The 997’s AWD system is essentially a modern version of the 959’s which uses computers. The 996 used the second gen AWD system which is not as advanced as the ones in the 964 & 997.
I totally agree with you about the colors. First of all - I have never seen a white 996 C4S before and wow! Is it amazing looking. Also, I agree about the red color in the 70s-80s G bodied cars with retractable bumpers only - not so, the 964. I never like it before and always thought 911s never look good in red. So when it came time to buy my 991.1 two years ago, I planned on a black or grey one until one day I saw a guards red car. My jaw just dropped! I can't believe how amazing it looked. Immediately I bought a red C4S when one came up. It's been two years and I still can't get over how amazing it looked. Same goes with a red 996 C4S and Turbo.
I feel the reason the 928 didn’t reach the value pinnacles of the 911 is because it is a Porsche with no racing heritage. Porsche could bring back the 928 by making a 2-door Panamera with a standard V8.
Great show boys. And yes, please do a episode on MB SL cars. Question as well, have you had an episode on early 911's? 1970 to 73. Curious as I own a 73 911S Coupe. Always looking for information etc. Cheers
I would love an SL episode. Especially interested in the R129 ( such a work of art). It would be great if you could do a monthly show. I really enjoy your market insights.
Great Episode James and David ! I enjoy hearing the 996tt are getting more interest, they are a really fun enjoyable Porsche with plenty of turbo power . A SL market review would be awesome have a 1969 280SL
Great episode. I had a couple of emails with David about the 26,000 mile 04 911 anniversary I sold for 47500 2 years ago. I think I made a mistake. They may creep back to sticker sone day. Although loving my 22 M4 comp convertible! Looking forward to the SL episode. Thanks guys!
He said the sell through rates are just now low enough to force the sellers to begin to drop the prices. (The two are yet to meet in the middle still, is how I took it.)
Hi, we appreciate you taking the time to watch the video. Each car is valued individually and there is no blanket answer for your question other than during a transitioning market, you will see more no sale auctions than in a typical climate
Re: the guards red Carreras - dive into all the comments at PCM / BAT. It was the sellers. One seller/car was questionable, the other did their homework.
Awesome I have a 997.1 turbo manual. In silver with red brake calipers and black leather inside. Only thing I want now is the new infotainment system. Mr grey t shirt nose is broken , he shouldn’t fix it as it’s probably going to be broken again due to his dumbass comments. Definitely agree that the 997 is much smaller vs the 991. I test drove the 991.1 turbo s. It’s much faster than the 997, but also feels bigger and just more serious. When I got back into my 997 I was happy to have it and will be keeping it for a bit longer. 3 years of ownership and 37000km (10000km done by me)
The 997 infotainment head unit is amazing, particularly for the 997.1 as it gets rid of that outdated phone in exchange for a larger, color touch screen. It really bridges the analog feel of the 997 with modern interior experience. Definitely worth the money.
Excellent show, always interesting and very knowledgeable on Porsche models James and David , I guess I should have kept my 96 993 C4S , but thought it was underpowered back then.
In scent of a woman, the Al Pacino character said there's nothing like the sound of a Ferrari. I beg to differ. In the movie Lemans which pits Ferrari vs porshe, there is no comparison between the raw sound of the air cooled flat 12 of the 917k normally aspirated car and the Ferraris
