Ducati used to make a dedicated touring variant of the Hyper, called Hyperstrada, generally it was a Hypermotard, with a lower suspension, more comfortable seat, a small screen, center stand and two soft side panniers. I was influenced by that bike how I modded my Aprilia Shiver. If I had a bigger budget, I would have gotten a Hyperstrada, but sadly it wasn't and it isn't the case right now, that being said, I love my Shiver. As far as I know Hepco and Becker makes a set of soft panniers with rack and soft topbox for the current Hypermotard, which you might find interesting if you want to tour more with your Hyper. Generally myself I really like the middle weight adventure bikes, I my mind knows that I could not use the off road capabilities of for example the Ducati Desert X, but I really love the idea of the versatility. In any case, the Shiver can do pretty much everything I want it to do, riding on a forest service road stays a dream for now.
It’s a ramble but a useful ramble. It’s helpful to hear all these reflections about a bike instead of the usual quick reviews with so much focus on the bike specs. It’s all about how it is to actually ride and how well it matches the riders desires. Thanks for the video and the beautiful views.
Thank you!!! I appreciate your reply immensely. This is how I view reviews as well. I thank you for checking my video out and leaving this nice comment. I appreciate it so much!
Heia! Detta e de 2 jentene fra den videoen din som stirra på deg når du kjørte gjennom byen. Takk for at du valgte den dagen vi så styggest ut av alle. Deilig motorsykkel btw☺️ -Seline (blåe leggings) Thea (LFC skjorten)
Don't know man.... If you ride on a straight road, like the ones in EEUU in general... or that road you are filming (very beautyfull indeed) and you want to be in speed limit laws... why a 1000cc? In second gear in high RPM where is the fun of the motorcycle you will be out of that speed limit haha Shit... even in relaxed RPM you almost never going to see 5th gear. If you like to go to a twistie road... like almost every biker like... a 1000cc for a beginner is very dangerous. I've lost friends man... and when I go with friends and they bring a beginner rider with us, even with a low cc bike they miss 2-3 curves easily... imagine if they get a big cc bike... even the most experienced rider has surprises when driving, that's a fact... the thing is that the experience keeps them alive. And I'm not telling you that I go crazy or my lost friends where crazy in high speeds curvy roads... they spinned the back wheel because they shifted down too early losing traction or the curve was more deep than anticipated... other curves are in hills and is a bit different to manage... I don't know, if you know yourself, you are going to keep the bike to commute or go in straights in speed limit, or go and drink something... chilling with everybody taking photos of your bike in front of a bar... thats ok... you will be ok... buy what you want. If you like to ride, going to mountain ports, twisties, etc... learn with a lower CC bike, you will thank me later. EVEN in legal speed limit. For track its a no brainer... don't go with a high cc bike if you are new. Never. Thats my point of view... cheers and ride safe!
Hi! Thanks for the comment, I appreciate your well thought out input. To your first point, I totally agree that especially 1000cc inline four bikes like my Suzuki has its clear limitations for riding in the city / within speed limit on most roads. Which is why I prefer the Hypermotard for such use. I do ride twisties, and will upload more footage of it going forward. I've had time constraints due to exams, so I've not had the opportunity to get outside city limits. I actually went for a fantastice ride yesterday, but I managed to straight up forget to turn my gopro on, so I didn't record any of it. But yeah, I'll get more footage of twisty riding on both bikes. I hope it will illustrate how fun one can have even within speed limits on the right roads. But I want to say that first of all, riding twisty roads vs. riding like I am in this video is night and day in terms of danger, skill required etc. I totally agree. And I also agree that while the difference is basically meaningless between a mt-03 and a 1390 SuperDuke if you're just riding it in the city within speed limits, the differences becomes way more apparent when riding in the twisties, even within speed limits (depending on the road). Today, a lot of bikes has lots of rider aids. I turn off traction control and wheelie control, but one of the most used and most important features of both my bikes is the slipper clutch and auto blipper which makes downshifting a lot safer. I think that I should moderate my stance a bit, as I realize that a 1000cc bike from 2005 might be significantly more difficult to ride than the bikes I am riding. However, I still believe that the dangers that arise from riding in the twisties is much less from the bike itself, and more from (1) the riders skill and maturity, and (2) the inherent dangers of twisties. Riding high speeds around blind, unfamiliar corners is dangerous. New riders will often not know how to react when the bike starts drifting due to target fixation, or if a sudden bump in the road or car comes around a tight corner. These are dangers which will be there no matter what bike you're on. And while it is true that bigger engine and more torque can get whiskey-throttle riders in trouble, we should also remember that higher CC bikes often comes with better suspension, better chassis and more advanced rider aids - not to forget better tires and brakes. These can in certain situations be the difference between life and death. Either way, I do mostly agree with what you are saying. For track, definitely start on a beginner bike. For twisties, I think knowing yourself and your limitations as a rider is important no matter what, but certain people should definitely consider starting out on smaller capacity bikes. For riding in the city, commuting to work... I say anything goes, mostly.
It depends so much on the individual so this will never be a one size fits all solution. Example: My brother should never ever be anywhere near a motorcycle again because he is outright dangerous. Personally I've made less and less mistakes the more power I've got my hands on so just there between me and him we are complete opposites. I've ridden all the fastest bikes and done trackdays and what not, and never been an issue for me. Him however, he wrecked the first bike he rented because to him this was a videogame. The solution: Some people *_should_* 100% start with a beginner bike, and others will just have to be honest with themself and respect what ever equipment they are on.
Thanks for the well thought out reply! I think the issue is that the people who are more like your brother will (1) probably not listen to any advice about starting on a beginner bike and (2) may never be mature enough to ride a fast bike. Some people shouldn't even be riding anything in the streets. At the end of the day, even beginner bikes are too fast for the streets. If a rider wants to push the limits, he will do so on any bike. And same goes in reverse - someone with respect for the bike and the inherent dangers of riding a motorcycle will never push the bikes anywhere near the limits. I do agree that there are likely some people in the middle of the two extremes I've mentioned - which may just need some years to "be stupid" before they mature. And for those people, I agree that the difference between riding an MT-03 and a GSXR 1000 might be life and death.
Started riding bikes 2 months ago approaching an A2 license, never rode anything 2 wheeled except for mountain bikes. The driving school almost exclusively use MT-07 and despite being a 700cc bike, it's been more than fine for me thus far, now looking at buying bikes I'm just afraid that going to weaker bikes might just put me off completely.
My learner bike was a Kawasaki Z650, similar power to the MT-07. I went from zero experience to having A license in hand within one month. Hopped on the GSX-S1000 and haven't had any issues.
@@midnightsunrider Yeah, I'd imagine a lot of the people where the "get started on a low powered bike" is applicable is for people who might not be mature enough to realize that motorcycles are powerful machines and you cant just crank the throttle like your life depended on it. If you start learning in a "safe" environment by a good mentor, then you'll quickly respect the bike regardless. Either way, practical exam in 2w so I hope I'll have my license by then.
@@valizeth4073 Yeah I think rider maturity is way more important than what bike someone starts on. A safe rider on a 1000cc bike is way better than an unsafe rider on a 300cc bike. And that depends to some degree on age, but mostly on personality etc. I'm not the most risk adverse person however I do respect traffic laws because traffic is inherently very dangerous statistically speaking. With that being said, I also think its important to remember that more power doesn't necessarily equal more fun. I think looks, ergonomics, engine type etc. matters more than outright power. Good luck on your exams! Remember to ride defensively - no point in taking any risky split second decisions.
As brwed said, the bike is equipped with a quick shifter. Essentially, with a QS-system you don't need to pull the clutch when shifting up or down. The clutch is only used for when at a standstill. In practice, different QS-systems are a bit different - so for instance the Hypermotard is a bit more sensitive to which RPM ranges the quickshifter wants to be used, and which gears. The Suzuki GSX-S1000 is more happy to just shift without clutch in any gear and at any rpm range.
@@raspetsu Well, at least for me, a lot of the thrill of a 1000cc bike is the acceleration. Now I think that more power does not automatically mean more fun. My experience is that 150+hp is a bit too fast for us law abiding riders because you get like 1 second of acceleration before you have to cut the gas to avoid speeding tickets or losing your license. Which is one of the reasons I think the Hypermotard is a bit more fun for everyday riding than my GSX-S1000. Another thing is, I think a lot of us just like to ride something with crazy capabilities, even though we're never gonna use it. Kinda similar to how its cool to own a Nissan GT-R or McLaren sports car. Pushing any of those cars towards its limits in the streets is insanity. Same is pushing any of my bikes to its limits insanity. But its fun just knowing how fast they can go, and just getting a taste of it. Even a Suzuki SV650 is way, way overkill for the streets. Hell, a Honda Civic is too fast for the streets.
My view on beginners buying bikes which are clearly for more advanced riders is not about the danger, it's about learning to ride. I've looked at your other videos and, no offence, but you just seem to putter around on these bikes. I'd bet money on your tyres having a massive amount which haven't came close to the road. So, yes. A beginner can ride a fast bike slow and survive. Well done. However, IMO being a beginner is about learning to ride a slow bike fast. Then buying progressively more capable bikes. You see this on track all the time. People who have bought fast bikes but who can't really ride them and are stuck in the beginner group going fast on the straights and practically parking in the corners. Just my opinion (which means nothing at the end of the day). Saludos desde Barcelona.
Just for context: I have been riding for 18 years. My bikes were 125cc Honda, Honda CB600 Hornet, Kawasaki zxr 636 (I also owned a Yamaha xt660 at the same time) , Speed Triple 1050 and my current bike is a Speed Triple 1050R. Oh, and a Vespa 150s which has 8HP and no traction control.
That not to mention beginners are going to make mistakes. It's the nature of it. I fucked up twice as a beginner that if I was on a 600 let alone a 1000 I probably would have ended up in the hospital.
Thanks for the well thought out reply! No offense taken - I do most of my riding within the limits of the law. Which means that I'm never getting my knee down, and my tires have "chicken strips". I disagree that a beginner rider needs to learn how to ride fast at all - unless he's going to the track, which is an entirely different topic altogether. My stance is essentially that for riders who are more or less law abiding, the skills you need are more in terms of understanding traffic safety, and having basic control over your bike. Skills needed to go fast around a race track doesn't apply to those of us who doesn't take their bike to the track. I would love to, but unfortunately it is essentially impossible to do so in my country. The beginners who have 1000cc bikes and getting gapped by 600cc bikes are getting gapped because of their lack in skill, not because they're on 1000cc bikes. If they were on 600cc bikes, they wouldn't even be catching up on the straights. Nothing wrong with that of course, but if they want to ride 1000cc bikes then why not? Now I agree that from the perspective of developing as a track rider, everything I say basically goes out the window. So a basic premise here is that most riders either a) doesn't go to the track or b) does most of their riding on the streets.
Thanks for the comment! I agree, to develop into a well rounded rider its likely necessary to experience a wide variety of motorcycles. I hope you'll hop on the ferry over to Norway some time, there are some incredible roads and views here :D
@@midnightsunrider I ain’t no GOAT.. i thought the sound was ok (maybe a bit loud).. but it be nice to see some fast roads and giving the Hyper some throttle 🔥
@@hypermotardking Thanks for the feedback king! Yeah I need to do more twisties for sure. In fact I've been having so much fun with the bike just puttering around town I haven't properly experienced it in real twisty road conditions. I'll see too it to get some stuff made. Again appreciate the comments mate, love your channel !
Thanks for the comment - I think the mic itself is fine (zoom h1n), but I definitely fudged the placement on this video. I keep hearing scratching noises etc.
