Awesome work and some excellent rowdy noises! BTW, if you hit Play and Record again whilst it's resampling, it will run to the end of the loop and finish, then your recordings are always the right length for your current track.
I used to have an Octatrack for a few years, i enjoyed it despite its awful interaction design. Then a couple of years ago I got a deluge, and I find it superior in almost every way, and much more usable
I recommend having a look at the kilpatrick carbon as a standalone sequencer that is both visual and simple. You will need a midi keyboard to feed it notes and a multi timbral synth. I have the analog keys and I feel your pain. The lack of screen and the not so inspiring sounds of the deluge spook me especially as it isn’t cheap.
Lots of nice ideas here! Thanks for sharing! Here’s another one: chop your loops and give the slices a “stretch” playback mode, then place notes with different gate lengths and the loop accelerates and slows down based on your pattern
This srsly made me regret buying the Polyend Play. Had it for months and it just got increasingly frustrating/annoying and behind my expectations over time. I should've invested a little more to go with the Deluge. I probably sell the Polyend Play and buy a Deluge in the future. Just the fact that its open source and has resampling and a synth engine and you can edit colors of steps... there are just so many things to love about the Deluge - and the Polyend Play crackles loudly when you turn one of the touch-sensetive (and buggy/double-bouncy) knobs, which sometimes randomly think they got touched on their own and therefore change menus. Every step is (unchangable) white, some functions don't work properly in combination (slow track speed + "reorder mode" yield, that nothing but the first note in the track gets played), you can't customize most things, it can't play stereo samples and has no synth engine - but you can give away your 800 bucks unit and add 400 bucks for an upgrade an pay the shipping on top for them to switch out the cpu, so you can run stereo samples and a synth engine, wow. The whole button layout feels impractical for right handed use over time, since you have to go cross armed all the time or switch hands or do finicky tasks with your weak hand while your strong hand just holds pads... It just feels not thought trough nor capable enough and I'm starting to lose hope that it can become an actually good device with software updates alone (for more than scribbling down initial ideas). Rand, rant, vent... This video was cool and now I'm thinking about how a Deluge would've probably been the better choice. Oh well. You live, you learn and sometime you gotta pay the piper. At least trying out the Polyend Play allowed me to test it and shape an opinion and decision(s) for the future.
Now, it’s no competition. The Deluge blows the Elektron sequencers out of the water. And I’ve been an Elektron fan since I bought my first Machinedrum directly from them in 2001.
I use my Digitakt and Digitone song mode, and I can make full songs with bridge, chorus, verse structures. Easy now that song mode has been introduced.
Thanks for sharing, I'm new to Elektron gear and have a Syntakt, Digitakt and Digitone ... Love the Syntakt of the immediate way to create crazy drums patterns. I'm thinking of adding the Analog Heat +FX to match with the ST for crazy drums! With the Elektron gear quickly came across the problems with programming more elaborate songs/arrangements/extending - scaling down (maths!!) and actually seeing the notes on the grip and what's need played out. This really helps. I need be able to both jam (immediate) and the ST and Heat +FX will be ideal for that, but I also been to write and arrange songs, with intro, verse, bridge - all that old school shot stuff. Plus I need change keys, have a melodic element to a song as opposed to just one note being played 😞 So I'm thinking of firstly matching the Deluge with the Syntakt and eventually adding the Heat + FX (Heat +FX is purely optional). Good plan / bad plan? I also play drums so I can arrange tunes within the Deluge and add acoustic drums as a last instrument to the arrangement - add via a DAW I presume.
Solid plan mate! I had my Deluge paired up to Syntakt and it did exactly what you said - allowed me to get wild drums with the ST but structure a song "normally" using the Deluge (which is leagues beyond the Elektron boxes for more complex composition or song-based structure). The latest community firmware update has extended this even more, as it now features an Ableton-style clip launcher and a host of new bits to it. Pretty capable machine!
Kinda lame that you have to buy extra gear to get basic functionality like this. (Especially for something that's 750 euros now!) Some of the design choices of the DFAM are just bizarre. Microscopic knobs, no sequencer reset, no sequencer scale length, weird knob layout and NO MIDI?!. It's still an incredibly inspiring instrument but still, these were just dumb design choices that helped nobody. Sometimes the DFAM feels like a rushed product to me.
I have an Akai Midi Mix going into my deluge, And in the deluge im primarily mixing Audio Stems that I have sampled from my laptop. Its disappointing because it seems Midi control is not compatible with audio tracks on the deluge, As it just says 'Cant' on display, Im simply trying to use volume faders, and filters controlled externally. Any help?
would love to have a deluge that was just the sequencer and the interface, with 2 midi outs and a range of triggers and cv's etc to interface with other instruments...
It's really not an argument because Bob Moog pronounced it like Mohg. Long O sound. Not Mooooog like a cow. His documentaries are pretty terrific. If you're interested in like synthesizers. Cheers!
Whooaaa this is so cool. This thing seems so much cooler than almost every sampler/sequencer, but the lack of export makes me so sad. Nothing else seems to provide the option to make the strange combo of music I want to make as readily as the Deluge. What a crazy instrument.
My sentiments exactly. I'm a guitarist, with techno leanings. I did some research, and this unit kept recurring in the top options, based on the type of music I wanted to create, and the methods I use to realize my creative vision. Finally decided to pick one up, but found them as rare as hen's teeth, here in North America. I didn't want to buy a used Deluge, and I wanted a machine that featured the newer OLED display, so I went straight to the source and ordered one from Synthstrom Audible, in New Zealand. The website is easy to navigate, the purchase process simple. Within a week, my Deluge was on its way, shipped directly to my door. The cost (in US$) was sobering but I took the plunge, because the builders of the instrument will most likely create future upgrades which keep the Deluge at the productive forefront, and - let's face it - the price will most likely head higher.
@@Cybrianon Since watching this I got an SP404MK2 and I do love it. But I still have Deluge on the wishlist and feel the same about it haha. I'd go the same route as far as getting the new one with OLED. I'm keeping my eye on it while I save because the Push 3 caught my eye haha.
Sorry man, sold my OT shortly after getting the Deluge. You can do the same sort of thing, but the workflow is far far longer and more laborious (IMO, of course). Resampling is so easy on the Deluge and I found it really annoying on the OT, but YMMV!
@@pedrol8234 it’s a super powerful machine, but you kind of have to work within its limits, as it’s can’t “do everything”. There is almost always a workaround for everything, but the OS can be pretty dense sometimes. I’d suggest watching a stack of YT vids and reading through the Elektron forum to find answers for what you are wanting to do!
after doing resample+play, you can push this same button combination again and it will automatically stop playing and resampling when the current loop ends
A4 has a much deeper synth engine, for sure. Deluge has a much quicker, deeper, and more flexible sequencer (IMO). Synthesis is only a tiny part of its features.
