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Anne was many things but she was not a fool. I have a hard time believing she ever engaged in adulterous behavior. It seems her downfall was a contrivance perpetrated by her husband and Cromwell.
Thomas Cromwell was much more brutal than the brilliant writer Hilary wrights about he was not gentle as shown in Woolf Hall he was notoriously aggressive it is played as if it’s only Thomas Moore the one that’s just cruel and uses brutality which are actually factually isn’t the truth Thomas Moore was a quite a renaissance man he wanted his daughters to have an equal education Cornwall was notoriously aggressive that’s why Henry kept him so close to use incredibly nasty violence to get answers that were beneficial to Henry
After Henry the viii had the accident at the jousting he was getting bigger and bigger and was in a coma for two hours they’ve now worked out that does severe brain damage he went into an even more of a despot king if that’s possible but he became even more paranoid insecure and desperate for a son and as ANNE BOLEYN I had not had a son fast enough he was quick to go onto another woman who could come up with the goods for his own selfish reasons I think that he felt that she hadn’t come up with the goods quick enough and therefore Catherine was dead and he was a widow and he had the opportunity to go and legitimately marry another woman & try again. Remember this was an incredibly misogynistic era & to Anne Boleyn if you think people are sexist today 1500 England was incredibly misogynistic and as we see women will use as a power-play remember mary Anne’s sister was Henry’s mistress Women were used purely as commodities like a cattle market Anne dn’t really want to marryHenry she really wanted to marry Henry Percy and I think she would’ve been happier if she had done
Look at ALL the women Henry was married to he treated them all appallingly, even Jane Seymour who died giving him a son , he threatened when she was shocked at him going back on pardoning the men from uprising against the abolishment of monasteries “ Henry said , remember what happened to My last wife “ ie be silent do as your told give me a son & you MAY live ! He was aggressive @ Jane during The Pilgrimage of Grace was a popular revolt & Henry was aggressive with Jane Seymour when she said could it be god’s judgment! He lied about pardoning them . Who’s to say how he would of treated Jane he bullied her & she was honoured for her son who she died delivering , he had many illegitimate children & ruined marriages . Anne wanted to marry Henry Percy / Henry viii broke it off for his own selfishness.
Lord Norfolk has a lot to answer for , he was wanted more power & was a Uncle to both Anne Boleyn & Catherine Howard & he was at both of there trials . He pushed Mary & Anne Boleyn to further his ambition & later Catherine Howard who was a child . Men used these women as cattle & blamed them for not producing the goods , I’m sure Anne would of had a son with more time & less stress . Look what happened to Jane Seymour after giving Henry as son , she died . The immense stress for this patriarchal society of domination. Katherine of Aragon pushed aside , Anne Boleyn killed for not producing a son so quickly . Henry killed two wives , nearly killed Catherine Parr who out of her own diligence survived , yet Henry agreed to a warrant for her arrest . Henry treated women appallingly.
Other researchers I hold with there opinion, Anne learnt skills at the french court , which was far more sophisticated. Anne flirted , yet I believe she was faithful . the misogynistic times of Tudor history/ eg look at groomed the child bride Catherine Howard ( Lord Norfolk) AGAIN using women for his power play . He used Mary & Anne for his own ambition & used Catherine Howard the fifth murdered wife of Henry .
I LOVE Hilary's trilogy but I am convinced she sacrificed Anne in order to flesh out Cromwell more, Anne was just a detail for her in her description of Cromwell's busy life. And no, even people at the time were incredulous about that "justice process", Chapuys - Anne's enemy - even was astonished. Monarchs in Europe came to believe Henry killed his innocent 2nd wife. Few crucial historical points were omitted from Hilary's pretty accurate narrative. 1. Anne's confession at the Tower and receiving the sacrament before death, as she asked it to be in the presence of the ladies waiting on her (who reported, by a chain, eventually to Cromwell as to what she said and did), and her stating that she is innocent of what she is accused. 2. Her eloquence at her trial at the Tower, denying the charges AND the fact that Cromwell, who was present, was VERY nervous. He feared she might extricate herself and collapse his trumped up case against her. Not a word about that in the novel. And this all not to mention that today, the majority of historians (with exception of one) believe she was innocent. When I was about to read Bring up the bodies, I wondered how she would write a man who killed (ok, project-managed) an innocent woman. I expected a guilty man living with what he's done, but it turned out to be a much easier answer: he simply thought her guilty.
Just ghastly thing to do to anybody else is unauthorized and prohibited from doing so in the first place. Sadly it still goes on and nobody should listen to them period.
I wonder what Anne thinks of all the movies and tv shows about and I wonder what she would have to say about it and did they get the shows and movies about her right Ash shower thoughts
Hilary Mantel had never stated that her version of history is the absolute and ultimate truth. As she had so often stated, ‘she was tying to engage the reader and asking, “what would you have done in their situation?” and had often said that her work was not an academic one but aNovel about Tudor England in the time of Henry the Eighth. It is a brilliant and thought provoking read and written by the best author I, personally, have ever read. Her work, “The Wolf Hall trilogy’ is nothing short of sublime. Hats off to Hilary Mantel and kudos to such a fantastic depiction of the most turbulent and fascinating era of English history.
The thing is Anne did not 'fail' to give Henry a son, because she never really got a paper shot of it. Catherine of Aragon was given 20 years to produce a son, so his first wife did 'fail'. But three years is not a long enough time period to try and produce a son. Had they stayed married then no doubt Anne would have conceived again and again and might well have produced the much longed for son. So I don't think it was just for the 'lack of son' producing reason that Henry binned her. The reason Henry dumped her - after only 3 years - was because the chase for him was far better than the capture.
Anne was a highly intelligent woman which is why she rose and the so called men could not have any woman being an equal. This is complete poppycock and seems a view of someone who is not sympathetic to women’s challenges in the times. Don’t waste your money 💰
Obviously, Anne wouldn't have had any miscarriages if she could have stopped it. Even in those days, they knew such things weren't under human control. They did believe that bad things that happened were god's punishment, but to claim that she "broke her promise" was ridiculous. Ironic that it was his genes causing his wive's childbearing problems..
Disgusting man. Paul Preston is a well known anti Spanish, anti Franco troll charged by his Masonic masters with brain washing the new generations with anti Spanish propaganda
Check out Pio Moa books about it. The Republicans started the conflict by killing thousands of people indiscriminately. Paul Preston is a fraud as a historian.
It's a superb book and anyone interested in modern Spain should read it. Preston's sense of outrage at what took place at the time is intensified by a modern collective acceptance of the Franco version of events and a world that sees the events as The Civil War of equal claimants which became a sideshow to the Second World War. Preston reminds us how absolutely atrocious the rebel uprising and subsequent Civil War was. It was not only a war of two sides but civilian involvement and murder. Families were murdered because they dared to ask for one peseta for a working day to feed their family. Non combatant civilians were massacred.
Fantastic book that tells the truth about what happened in the Spanish Civil War. Preston is 100% correct--- it was a Holocaust of horrendous and deliberate mass murder by Franco and his war criminals. Yes, there were atrocities committed by the Republican side but nothing on the scale of what Franco committed. Today in 2021 there are still Fascist sympathizers of Franco who want the truth to be buried forever.
If you don't like this little "trailer", don't worry! It's got NOTHING to do with the novel! CONSUMED is fantastic, but one thing it is NOT is purposely obscure. It isn't "odd for oddity's sake" or anything like that. What it IS is a tale well told, involving multiple international intrigues, as experienced and uncovered by a couple of globe-trotting journalists who happen to be long-term on again, off again lovers who can't help but divulge all their latest scandalous and dangerous behaviors, no matter how much of a strain it puts on their already tempestuous relationship. It's also quite propulsive (a real page-turner!), with memorable characters and believable (occasionally quite disturbing) situations, and narrative developments that will keep you up at night later than you'd expected, just because you need to find out what happens next. It's almost impossible to believe that this is Cronenberg's first novel! If the movie game is no longer one he wants to play, then I sincerely hope he's got a lot more books in the works for those of us who remain his fans and admirers.
