Not yall defending a pedophile just because he’s a male SA victim. Just because he was gonna wait until she 16 (which is still under the age of consent!) to have sex with her doesn’t make him not a pedo. He was holding hands with her and going on dates and calling her sexy. And before anyone cries “he just wanted to be friends!!” when he confronted Debbie about raping him he literally calls it “date rape”. WHY WAS HE DATING A 13/14 YEAR OLD AS A 20/21 YEAR OLD?? Yes it was rape and yes Matt is a victim but he’s also a groomer and pedo and ultimately Debbie is a victim here too. Electric chair for both of them!!
Relationships are always a work in progress especially with someone who has a mental condition like Ian. Mick might've been kinda fatigued by the doubts Ian has when they tried to get married the 1st time. I kinda see where Mick was coming from at that time. Mick has stuck it out with Ian thru his bipolar diagnosis, he came out for him, them in prison, they planned to leave for Mexico, he constantly went against Terry. Mickey loved him thru the lowest lows, that small reminder that there's doubt in Ian's part has got to hurt.
It doesn’t matter he didn’t do anything yet. He said he would when she was 16 which is still too young for his grown adult self. At the end of the day at 13 years old you’re still a child.
That kid ruined her life lol see kids drugs can mess up your life even if you don't take them. Who cares tho y'all will still do them 😂 dumb girls especially because it's "lit" won't be so lit after but hey that's why life has losers and winners we can't all be winners right?
At the end of the day yes was Fiona’s coke but everyone else was at that party they all have a brain too they could of moved the coke out of reach from a kid or simply put Liam to bed but the way everything was blamed on Fiona when she didn’t deny anything was messed up and can tell in later episodes that she didn’t ever fully recover
"Hey hey hey what's going on"? Was that a serious f****** question? What's going on is, you admitted to having cocaine. Not to mention a 3-year-old overdosed on it. Didn't understand the surprised looks and reactions from these people.
Some people are trying to defend Debbie here which I don’t get at all, yes it was weird for him to still hang out with her when she is underage and a little girl but he never tried to force himself on her or anything like that, she raped him and if anything thinks men can’t get raped are hella stupid
Im still on season 4 and almost finished with it, from the looks of how things are going seems to me that Fiona is gonna turn out just like how her parents are, and i dont like it but shit runs in the Gallagher family if you make a bad decision with drugs or alcohol it seems to stick with them. Amazing show though, i didn't expect to get into this show tbh when i first started but im hooked.
I was completely ignore this show back when it was still 3 seasons but last year, a friend of mine recommended it to me and.... I got hooked and finished it all in 1 month 🥲 anyways, dont want to spoil too much but shes not going to be her parents.
She raped not 1, not 2, but 3 people. Matt, her baby daddy(yes lying about the pill is rape), and the underage girl. That's fucked. And she was proud of it...smh
Only reason people have sympathy for her is cause she’s white and Liam is black. Cause best believe if she was a black woman nobody would’ve gave her any sympathy
Everyone attacks debs but forget that she’s a young vulnerable girl who didn’t have guardians who taught her what healthy relationships are from the start. Not to mention this is a grown ass man who started to talk to her first and knew fully well how young she was. Even before they when they were just “friends hanging out” he allowed and even reciprocate romantic gestures back to her. He practically led her on the entire time. Ofc is was wrong was she did but she barely knows right from wrong from the start and only thought of him as a older guy who was playing hard to getz
Wow so you think him leading her on is his fault he got raped? Thats like saying women get raped because of the clothing they wear. God damn you should check your morals.
lip's a W for staying his ass at the hospital when fiona got arrested. kevin and v were acting like it wasn't her fault but in reality she shouldn't have accepted the coke, or at the very least shouldn't have done it while watching CHILDREN.
I felt so bad for Matt because there was no way he could've talked about his sexual assault to anyone without getting into details of who Debbie was because if he was unconscious or not he still wouldn't of looked like the victim.🥺
While what Debbie did was absolutely awful, he was 100% grooming her. There’s no reason a 20 year old man should be hanging out, partying, or holding hands with a 13 year old girl. She definitely date raped him, but he 100% was on the path to statutory raping her. So we cannot pretend he was a complete victim.
Out of all the stupid things Kevin has said over the course of the series, some of them intentionally funny, that “What’s going on?” Has got to be his stupidest saying, she left cocaine out and a 3 year old got into it, what did he think was going on?
I just watched this and I had to cry. I have a young kid myself and seeing Liam lying there on the floor. Fuck. I just mumbled „Why did now one watch him?“ over and over again. The actors are all incredible.
