I take it thats woth the 15t sprocket speed 1st not usefu too low and 6th always has more than enough go so some sprocket changing front or rear is worth a spin i feel have you hesrd of any quality parts available for speed?
I havent found my speed 400 mpg indicated to be very accurate 81on screen and calculated 73.6 speedo is out a good 10% too will have to do a few more tank empties to be sure though.
And why pray tell is the cam chain flailing from side to side removing chunks of engine real estate from within ? Can't wait for this explanation to bullshit its way out like a well-known scene from an Alien franchise movie ...
earlyer it was F2 or F4 for Factory 2 UK and 4 Thailand you could try vindecoder online Vehicle report example: SMT HDA55 4 Z M 123456 Manufacturer: TRIUMPH MOTORCYCLES LIMITED, LE10 3BZ HINCKLEY LEICESTERSH. UK Manufacturer Address: Normandy Way Hinckley, Leicestershire, United Kingdom Plant Country: JAPAN Product Type: Motorcycle Make: Triumph
Hinckley motorcycles are made in Thailand its all about spreadsheets with that manufacturer, there is no racing pedigree with that company, but the once I visited a dealership whith friends I was astonished to see pictures of the original triumph company products slippery Sam ect as if they had made them themselves, if you do your homework there is always a motorcycle in direct comparison that has better reliability, more performance, and better value for money, years ago motorcycle selection was alot easier for perchacers as the motorcycle press released brutally honest test reports, they don't upset the advertisers in the woke world we live in now , so have more of a chance to reel in the money , there are some fantastic motorcycles out there in all classes just take a look , and purchase your motorcycles not just on their looks ....
by the way, what sprocket would you recommend for the rear? Do you know what that part number would be? I did order the front 15T sprocket but I'm also interested in upgrading the rear to maybe a 40t or something like that.
not really sure to be honest only that 3 teeth at the rear is roughly equivalent to 1 at the front you can use this website to enter different gearings and it will tell you the speed to rpm gearingcommander dot com
Great video! How did this upgrade affect 1st gear? How many more mph/kph do you get out of 1st gear with this upgrade? I agree that 1st gear is completely worthless on this bike and I'm actually considering trading it in for something with much longer gears tbh. I swear I have to shift out of first gear before I even hit 10 mph on this bike lol For my first bike, I definitely wanted something more easy going with longer gears.
Metal in the oil from new should not be there... I've built engines for some 40 years, if customers told me they found metal in oil after a build I'd be shocked. Metal can stay in an engine even when you have oil changes, just because it's clean after a change does not mean the Metal came after.. The Metal van hide in all kinds of spots. But Metal should not be in it even when brand new.. thats a bad sign.
the update video explains whats happening basically the timing chain is guaging out the sides of it's enclosure engine is being replaced under warranty
Glad to hear your being looked after buddy. Im a norn iron resident, i used to live near the garage at armoy road races years back... Spent a life time building bikes and engines for customers from across the globe.. big companies dont usually help the individual . Its actually a bike i was looking to add as i like the set up, just not engine. Ive spare engines id fit instead lol Happy riding brother. If you see me riding you will know the mask and outfit who i am... @@laniake-an
Live near the factory went for a job at triumph building the bikes you are timed building them rush job builders all your chrome that falls off they give you a piss can to touch it up I would never buy a triumph most of the people building them are not even interested in bikes it's the pay check at end of month shocking ...
@@shutupnavikrant wow i would have thought it would be easiest there lol the Speed 400 comes with a 15 tooth in the first place so i would expect any Triumph dealership to be able to source the OEM Triumph part
@@laniake-an they would to a service agency, but an individual cannot buy it directly. They'd get you only if your sprocket is damaged and needs replacement lol. Officially you can only get it this way, taking your motorcycle to authorized service centers where they'd raise ticket for the fault and get it replaced. If you were to source and get it installed from non-authorized centers, you'd void your warranty.
The Bankrupt Pensioner RU-vid channel has a good video on changing out the front sprocket on this bike. Getting the 15 tooth sprocket is the hard part here in the US because it is a new model bike. That will get better eventually.
Yes, very good. Watched a couple of Australian CF Moto 450mt videos. They also went one tooth up on the drive sprocket. Seems to take buzziness out of engine for a more relaxing ride. It can tire you out. That's why I ride an NC750X. 3200rpm at 100kph. GPS'd Cheers from New Zealand
Sounds like a good idea but I would be more worried about having to have a new engine fitted. I really like the look of these but might give it a year or so.
If it is that easy I wonder why Triumph didn’t do it? I know the answer to that one. Speaking from experience I have owned two bikes where upon changing the chain and sprockets an extra tooth was added to the front. In neither case was it my wish. The bikes were very different, one a DR125 dual sport producing about 12 BHP and the other a Triumph sports bike with 110. In both cases the higher gearing ruined the riding experience. I rode the Suzuki only a couple of days ago and was reminded about how awful it is. On-road it’s basically lost sixth gear which has become an overdrive for driving down wind or down hill. The bike feels and has to be worked hard in the five useable gears. Off-road where it was used most it had lost the ultra low first gear that made it such a special tool, it would climb anything. Now it doesn’t. The Triumph was a bigger surprise. Despite its powerful engine it had neither the power nor the torque to cope with the higher gearing, the lively sportsbike became dull overnight. In my opinion this is something that owners need to think carefully about and not blindly follow RU-vid influencers. If you ride to Starbucks it won’t make too much difference but if you are going to ride in hilly terrain or with a loaded bike beware. If you simply want your Triumph to be more comfortable on dual carriageways you chose the wrong vehicle, I suggest you trade it in for a diesel hatchback. As I started but saying, if it’s that easy why didn’t Triumph do it? The answer is simple, they know it’s a mistake? Influencer or manufacturer? I know whose advice I’d take.
It's a cheap change over and you can change back easily if you don't like it. The Scrambler 400X already has plenty of low end grunt. Everyone who has tried it likes the result.
Chnageing the front spocket to a larger one will reduce the rpm at highway speeds. But you also said to go to a larger rear spocket to rduce rpm at highway speeds. Changing the rear spoclet to alarger one would have the opposite effect. On the rear you would want a smaller spocket to reuce rpm Another way of rduving the rpm is to wait until the rear tire wears down and buy a taller rear tire. The factory tire is a 150/60 R17. If you can't find th spockets you want you can buy a 170'60/R17 whiis a 1/2 inch taller which would do the same as adding one tooth larger front spocket. Or if you want an even higher grearing you can but a 180'60R17 which is about 3/4 inch taller than the stock tire.
Tyres you mentioned wouldn't make any difference as the tyre only gets wider say from 150 section to upto 180. To make the gearing taller you need a tyre with larger diameter than the stock 150/60. So to do this we need a tyre that has higher profile than "60" and not the width "150". For example, the Scrambler 400x has a 140 section tyre (Thinner than speed 400s 150 section) but has a higher profile at 80, so it has larger diameter than the 60 section used in speed
@@shutupnavikrant The tires I mentioned are a bit wider but also taller. The 170 is a half inch taller where as the 180 is 3/4 inch taller. Either will give the bike a taller gearing.
I stopped buying British motorcycles in the 1970s as I got fed up with breakdown problems. Been riding Japanese bikes ever since with no regrets. But last year I bought a new 650 Royal Enfield Super Meteor. I intend to change the rear suspension, but other than that I love just turning the key after six or ten days without riding pressing the starter and we're off. Our 300 mile run to Cornwall went effortless along with visiting other Cornish locations. The ride home two up holding 70 on the motorway went without incident. When I changed the oil and filter no partials noted and the oil was still good. But as oil has always been the heart of the engine makes sense to me to keep checking... I'd feel down hearted if I had your problems sir with a new bike. Good luck getting this resolved.
I just changed the oil for the first time in my scrambler 400 and there was quite a bit of glitter in the oil. I may take a sample up to the dealership to see what they say.
i think it's fairly normal for a first oil change at first service if it's the same issue as mine, you can see the scouring easily when you take apart the engine not only will you notice the gouging, but it also removes the black powdercoat and the exposes the silver cant miss it really all that said, some metal in the oil on your first service isnt neccessarily indicative of any issue
@@laniake-an thanks for the info. Either way, I’m going to drain the oil at 1200 miles and compare the original oil to the new oil. I imagine there’s still a substantial amount of glitter left in the engine that’s going to be cycling through the system. I’ll feel better as long as I see a noticeable decrease.
If you want to change the gearing on the speed you will need to go down on the rear sprocket ie from 43 to 40 not up as going up will lower the gearing. 👍
The oil pressure light indicator means the oil pressure dropped below what is acceptable at idle. That could be as low as 5-10psi. You can't fix an oil pump that had metal run through it with fresh oil and a filter. I'm not laying blame but if I was the mechanic I would be up at 2am thinking about your bike because it was only a matter of time before it came back. The entire engine needed to come apart the first time the light came on. The engine has been eating itself for the last 1000 miles which will make finding the original cause more difficult and potentially impossible.
Sounds like you have a lemon my Speed thus far seems fine with 1600 miles on it. They should as a minimum strip it down to investigate the debris though if it was an aero engine or train oil monitoring is carried out to establish where the particles are from in the engine assembly. If you paid for the bike (or over £100 thereof using credit) then the credit issuer is liable under section 75 protection. For confidence in the product it might be easier for them to replace it or at least the engine entirely not that I think they will have spare engines in stock in the UK they only just delivered my screen MIA from delivery in April.
I wish I could say the same about my dealer. My Speed 400 kept stalling, this is my second attempt for them to fix it. They had the bike 3 weeks, and nothing. They are "waiting" on a part. I'm very disappointed with Triumph TBH.
the question is why this happened. if it is a weak chain or bad tensioner there should be more reports. if it was not proper installed, what went wrong while installation.
I have purchased a few small engines new over my lifetime in power equipment (cheap engines), outboards, motorcycles. I always do a very early oil change, then one or two more depending on what is found in the drain oil. I also do a cold cycle break in procedure. My comment has nothing to do with the issue described in the video unless the metal was showing up early in the operation of the engine. Triumph treated me very fairly on a wire harness pinched issue on my Tiger with literally hours remaining on the 2 yr warranty.
I’m not sure that anybody should be fairly happy with that state of affairs. It sounds like a nightmare to me. Anybody buying a motorcycle in 2024 should expect reliability as a basic requirement. It’s also strange that you suggest that other buyers need not worry as this fault is on your bike only? Really how do you work that one out? If something has failed on your motorcycle it’s going to fail on others as well.
it's speculation on my part i havent been able to find anyone else reporting the same issue and the bike has been out in India for over 12 months it could be part of a wider issue, but i would expect oterhs to be reporting the same problem it is just speculation though, i could be wrong
@davidmatthews3093 "If something fails on your bike it's going to fail on others"? how do you work THAT one out? That literally makes no sense at all, you're saying that every motorized vehicle is made exactly the same and no variation has ever existed in modern day assembly lines? of course there will be random flukes. there are tens of thousands of happy owners out there (myself included) that have had no issues like this one, this is the first I've ever heard about it and sounds like Triumph is hooking him up with a brand new engine? that's incredible! Do you think their business model is to replace EVERY motorcycle with a new engine every 5k? that makes about as much sense as your first post. this dude got a lemon, it happens with any car manufacturer in the world, could have been an issue with the chain itself for all we know! the fact that Triumph is putting in a new engine is testament to how confident they are in their product.
Thank so much for that superb report from Switzerland I bought the bike a month ago and have done 3000 kilometers until now. No issues until now 🤞🏽. If I would run into the same problem I will keep you guys informed Cheers and good luck with the new engine the bike otherwise is just a beauty and carries me even off-road to the Swiss mountains and back
Speed 400...Leaking oil between barrel/crankcase starting at 400 mile...severe at 700...refused gasket change as I felt it was a machining fault rather than 'Ranjit' failing to torque down properly (it's all done by 'pre-programmed torque' robots) and the waiting time for a gasket set was about 6 wks(WTF) Returned under sale of goods not fit for purpose. Got another new exchange bike as I love the machine, still a few niggles...engine management lights and two stalls (might have been me)... 700 miles so far...reading this I think I'll do the first oil change myself, so I actually see what comes out...all have a nice day.
You're really not very 'bright' are you...??...like every country I guess you have a name for the 'ordinary guy' in the street(OK, might not be Ranjit) here the name tends to be the Joe (John) me being Polish it's usually 'Janek'(so also John) get the drift...??.. Take your 'hurty' feelings, get a life and post somewhere else. Have a nice day.
I’d be careful doing your own service, could give dealer wriggle room if you had a future warranty claim. Possibly ask them to capture the oil coming out and let you have it, tell them you’re going to have it analysed.
