I love the attitude of those 18 year olds. "Don't care how cold that water is, time girt up our loins, these Saints have been through enough, we're here to answer some prayers."
Another inaccurate story which was sensationalized by Pres. Hinckley for greater effect. It is not quite to the level of President Nelson's fiery airplane story, unfortunately there is FAA report to show what really happened, but still not an accurate description of what happened. Paul Dunn seemed to be the first to make up stories or embellish stories, but sadly there are several others that do it now. The problem for them is that more can be accurately fact-checked!
That is not how one attains salvation, only through repentance and faith in the true Christ of the bible (not the created spirit brother of lucifer of mormonism) can one be granted salvation through the divine grace of God. Not by works, however noble. Read ephesians. And repent of these wretched blasphemies!!!
Agree .. just because you helped save a life here on earth does not give you a free ticket to heaven. Through Jesus blood is the only way of salvation from hell
Awful. Any organization that is truly "about families" would never put families through this. Or send fathers overseas for years at a time or ask children to leave their families for 2 years during a time they most need their parents.
Ephesians 2:8-9 New International Version (NIV) For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast.
Warning! This story as told herein is NOT true, but the true story may be even better. Please do not retell this story this way. Google "the true story of the three Mormon boy pioneer rescuers" and read the research done by BryCox and also published on the Juvenile Instructor. Thank you. I love President Hinckley. He didn't have the resources we have today to research and Google competently.
I sure do miss him!! I live close to the Sweetwater and I know the storms that can happen. Last winter we all pitched in to help friends and neighbors dig out of their homes and dig animals out too. These brave young men were like the sons of Helaman faithful and brave! God blessed them and God bless us all to be as strong and faithful as these boys!!
Love it, love President Hinckley...spot on Brother! Fire & the Covenant is the story of our families...the James. Our great great grandfather is buried in Rock Creek Hollow (dedicated by Pres. Hinckley) after dying on Rocky Ridge.
In the late 1980's temple married & sealed Bro. Louis DeBroux (Lou) of the Conyers, Georgia ward, (formerly of the Mobile Alabama 2nd ward & from Pensacola, Florida) planted bumbs at his ward & stake building. He told me he did it because he discovered that his temple sealed dying wife, Francis, was seduced and temple sealed to then Prophet/President Gordon B. Hinckley in the Atlanta Georgia temple as one of his polygamous wives. The Church caused his kids & others to create havoc within his family and turn against him, and he briefly spent time in Federal Prison over it. :.
They had no need to be crossing the plains in the wintertime, other than Brigham Young 's orders and his ordering that they not be properly provisioned unlike the previous wagon-trains & handcart "companies." Brigham Young set them up. :.
A beautiful story, I agree. One that impacted me when I heard President Hinckley tell it years ago. However, it's so sad and disheartening to me that it's embellished and the version President Hinckley tells here is not supported by the broader historic record: "The evidence indicates that more than three rescuers braved the icy water that day. Of those positively identified as being involved in the Sweetwater crossing, none were exactly eighteen. Although these rescuers helped a great many of the handcart pioneers across the river, they carried only a portion of the company across. While some of these rescuers complained of health problems that resulted from the experience, most lived long and active lives that terminated in deaths that cannot be definitively attributed to their exposure to the icy water that day. "The underlying meaning of the statement attributed to Brigham Young-publicly promising rescuers eternal life for this one act alone-is not entirely evident. Because there are no contemporary records of this statement, it needs to be examined in terms of both what was being said around the time of the rescue and in terms of gospel principles. Brigham Young did publicly associate exaltation with the effort to rescue the stranded pioneer companies, as did Heber C. Kimball, who publicly praised by name two who helped at the Sweetwater. However, both Young and Kimball taught that the tie between the rescue and the celestial kingdom was conditional in that the individuals involved needed to meet established requirements that all Latter-day Saints must attain of living their religion and enduring to the end. Individuals should not be misled to believe that one heroic act on their part will guarantee exaltation in the celestial kingdom." byustudies.byu.edu/article/the-martin-handcart-company-at-the-sweetwater-another-look/
Thank you for the clarifying information! I always appreciate the facts. It's somewhat disheartening and frustrating when you learn later, and after the fact, when the inaccuracies of the story have been accepted as the way that it was, that it wasn't quite the way you were told. It's so important for history to be told accurately, imo.
I dearly love and miss Gordon B Hinckley. Thomas S. Monson. I am grateful Because Russell M Nelson is our prophet today. So there is a love and tenderness about him today that I admire about Russell M Nelson. So I cheer for him and because of him being our prophet seer and revealator today. My parents cherish the faith in the church of Jesus christ of latter day saints. praise to the man whom communed with jehovah. And in choir practice Come tomorrow Practice singing O my father.
The Lord sees our good deeds and knows our hearts, our Savior Jesus Christ will bless us if we do good works and help others, if we repent sincerely and keep His Commandments we will find true happiness and get peace of mind, we will have a remission of our sins and we will be blessed by Jesus Christ, we should strive to keep God's commandments and do the will of The Father like The Lord did, we need to follow the perfect example of our Savior Jesus Christ 👍🏻✝️
I pray that you will celebrate Christmas in knowledge and truth. The knowledge that Jesus Christ died for you, in an act so poeerful that nothing else is needed but belief. And the truth that Gordon Hinkley and the leadership of the LDS Church are lying to you and always have.
This story has been researched and found to be untrue. It was told in General Conference in the 1860's but the three boys lived long and rather wild lives.
My wife's grandfather, Melvin Smith, was a historian that covered the Mountain Meadow Massacre extensively. He was not LDS and often conveyed this to us and tried, like you, to pin this on the Church collectively, when in reality, it was likely a few individuals who were to blame for it. It was likely bad information, mixed with retaliation from past experiences, mixed with fear, etc. Regardless, it was not good and should have never happened. Now, let's look in the scriptures where good men made serious mistakes. Or look at general history where good men commit heinous crimes. How about the blood shed unconstitutional Abe Lincoln perpetuated?
What about all those who starved and froze to death.. its an absolute fact that brigham young didnt take care of them through the handcart companies..fact.
@@ivanmack21 no its in a book just written lately i think..actually very sad so im not at all trite about it..its about the handcart companies etc.. im just sad to learn how many prople died and its not all the sanitized version we get..so i say rip to them . Google the book.you might find it or research done about it. I feel knowing the truth is our duty..respect.
If Brigham had just sent a text, all would have been safe. Ooops, no text service then. Gotcha, I meant to say telegram. Wait, when did telegram line get completed? 1861! Certainly not in 1856. Now you tell me Brigham did not even know? That is the truth Brigham only found out about the Willie and the Martin companies when Willard Richards arrived in early October then immediately sent out rescue riders and wagons! YOUR fact is incorrect!! Try using truth for a change. So easy to repeat lies!!
This is unfortunate. These 3 young men were very brave but they were not the only ones there saving lives that day. They didn't die from the exposure they suffered. I'm sure they were greatly blessed and apparently they were protected. I hope the brethern have learned from this. These stories need to be fact checked before they are shared to the world.
The don't prophet President Gordon B. Hinckely . Mountain Meadow Massacre 11th September 1857. Further president Hinckely denied any church envelopment in the massacre implying that John Dee single highhandedly killed all members of the wagon train, and was executed for that crime, according to president, no one else was involved. Gordon B. Hinckely continues the 100 year old tradition of avoiding taking any official church stand on any matters on live TV, he did continue to make statements such as, that was in the past, we go forward, and i don't know that we teach that.? September 11 1857. The Mountain Meadow Massacre the Mormon militia slaughtered 130 children women and men at close range. And dead Mr Gordon B. Hinckely i don't prophet LOL he did not know. [ FACT ] it happened. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The deluded Mormons who are brainwashed this for you, never mind that feeling in your heart it was indigestion or heartburn. Not from the holy spirit. I do not think that it would be proper to end the topic of brainwashing, without addressing the most used source of brainwashing. That the Mormon church uses that being testimonies. Adolf Hitler said if you tell a lie, long enough, loud enough, and often enough, the people will believe it. -------------------------------------------------------- Quote from Joseph Smith the 1st president of the Mormon church 1830- 1844. I have more to boast of than ever any man had, I am the only man that has been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me, neither Paul - John- Peter- and not even JESUS CHRIST ever did it. Joseph Smith, history of the Mormon church written by Joseph Smith himself. Joseph Smith claims he was greater than JESUS CHRIST.. --------------------------------------------- Ring any bells Mormons. ------------------------------------
Yes. It’s mostly made up by Solomon Kimball and appeared in the improvement era in 1914. Apparently BYU studies has an article debunking this story. The 3 boys were there and helped. They didn’t carry people across the river, they died many years later of other causes, two of them outlived Brigham Young. It’s an inspiring story but apparently made up. It all came to light in 2006 so this video pre dates the debunking.
Actually John Jacques also wrote in 1872 about the sweetwater crossing he participated in while in the Martin Handcart company. Three isn't the exact number, but rather "several", and not nearly the whole company was carried across, but a "portion". It isn't hard to believe people needed help crossing a half frozen river in Wyoming on the Oregon Trail.
IF you visit the museum in Wyoming the miracle surrounding these 3 young men is that they suffered NO ills from heir heroic measures. President Hinckley mispoke.
Those 3 boys did not suffer anything major at the time they Carried people across the river. It was later in life that they suffered & died from the effects of that fateful day.
I've read about these boys. In their later lives they did have illness from the heroic efforts, and they suffered. Read the history. I have ancestors who were in the Martin company.
You can testify all you want changes nothing. Smith was a girl chasing sex maniac who used God to supply his hunger. Smith was evil that you call good and good people in other Christian churches you call an abomination who hates sin that Smith loved. You can type Jesus to use God like Smith to look good for your own hunger but Mormon's are NEVER allowed around my wife or daughter. PERIOD!!!
This is a great story, but the close captioning is very poorly done. Is there a way for someone to fix it? I know service missionaries who would volunteer to correct these transcriptions, but I don't know who to contact.
What, no chest drape and the DDS is asking him if he wants antibiotics? I would think that should be the DDS call as to how much infection was present and if felt he should have them. Definitely would NOT be his patient and neither should anyone else!
