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If the illegally occupying protesters want water they can do the legal thing and leave. Having a meal plan doesn't mean you get catered service, you have to go to the cafeteria.
John is an idiot. National security questions aside, TikTok has been a breeding ground for mental illness among the younger set, with algorithms feeding poison to the gullible. That is killing our future. That angle alone should get it banned.
Big John Cochrane fan, glad to see the vibrant debate, but tend to disagree with him on TikTok. John focused primarily on one direction of data from the US to China. I'm far more concerned with the other direction i.e. China mass spamming links to the useful idiots of our society to contact their government representatives re policy petitions. They already showed us an example of this tool with the attempt to prevent the legislation. Imagine a Taiwan blockade scenario where every phone with TikTok in the US got a notification to sign a non-intervention petition for their congress rep or senator.
Dr. Cochrane is underestimating the reach and power of Tiktok and the influence it has. . . while I appreciate his defense of the 1st amendment - this is a clear case of a foreign agent having access to the US mind space.
19:40 so, this is a Jack Nicholson moment "You can hadle the truth". This a red code. Shut up and keeo going...BTW, tell me thanks for closig TikTok... Sorry John. We lost the case.
17:17 wait! What about legacy news papers chasing influencers or People like Brett Cooper with regards to using naturla birth cintrol rather the pill? If the Chinesse do it is big. If an American newspaper do the same its not bad? I think we are closing TikTok for reasons that will come after us later.
15:35 who's control Meta / Instagram algorithms? So, Mark is under control? Do we need to have more Elon t9 save us from private US sociak network companies? Sorry ma'am...but, you are making the case to close down any single social media.
Cochrane, I lived in China for 30 years !! You asked them what is the time of the day and I would not suggest that you believe them . They cannot be trusted. I married Chinese, my son is Chinese and I guarantee you that you cannot believe them because they will go after everything they can. Don’t be naive please.
12:31 so, what a out Meta. Instagram or other pruvate US sociak network like the old Twitter used to control information? Or lie about someone's laptop or a vaccine? Why not to do the same with them?
Normally agree with you guys on most things but the full throated establishment bend over for everything Israel is just gross. Israel doesn’t do anything for us and yet we fund their war machine.
I have run into similar sentiments in Turkey, where both the right and the left tend to be anti-US. My eyes opened to China when I found out there was a new private school in town teaching Chinese as the main secondary language instead of English… in a NATO country…
Tik-Tok is not free speech. Tok-tok is the most insidious indoctrination. TIK -TOK IS CHINESE FORM OF OPIUM WAR !!!!! Be assured, Chinese Communist Party will use it to turn your kids against defense and their own country. Close it down, kids will go crazy for a month or so and will forget soon. However, do neutralize your traitorous businessmen and banksters, who actually want to see China and vladolf putler victorious.
if McMasters is correct that "China is a hostile, authoritarian government determined to drag us down" (and I believe this IS correct) then why in the HELL have we been doing so much business with them, and 35 years ago, when they massacred their students, Bush snr gave them most favored trading nation status. We knew they were evil then and we should not trade with barbaric regimes.
John on TikTok was speaking nonsense, he sounded like congress questioning Zuckerberg. He doesn’t understand it at all. Thankfully others checked him on it.
I lived half of my life in communist country and second half here in the USA and I can CLEARLY see signs of communist behavior in U.S. government, suppressing the freedom of speech, printing money, banning foreign influences, custom taxes forced on all imports, crushing protests (like China in Hong Kong few years ago), despising working class and creating super-priviliedged class on top, philosophy that socialism is only for the one on the top while one on the bottom has freedom to starve, etc...etc...etc.. The whole world can clearly see that USA is collapsing just like ex USSR collapsed so once again I can watch collapsing of the empire in real time. And ye, this podcast DELETES all comments that censor don't like...just like in China
I thought I was going crazy last night when I couldn’t find the episode anymore, glad it’s up. Thank you Hoover and all the fellows for bringing us these wonderfully thoughtful conversations in a period of insanity.
(0:06) " ... obligation Columbia feels it has to its students. Do you want students to die of dehydration and starvation ...?" THIS is the level of intelligence Columbia admits to its university? This is the kind of student they produce? This is the kind of low-intelligence person Hamas and Palestine want to champion their cause? If the students are too stupid to leave and go get water and food for themselves, and/or if they didn't foresee such a need, and plan for it accordingly, then that's THEIR fault, not the university's. It's beyond laughable that they think the university owes it to them to be responsible for their own poor planning. Talk about a huge sense of entitlement. And the smugness she feels by thinking she has the university over a barrel with her lame argument only makes her, and her cause, look all the more imbecilic. Ivy League universities seem to have no respect for themselves or their reputations anymore. Practically every week, one of their administrators, faculty, graduates, or students very abundantly and very ably demonstrate just how bad those universities are at providing a quality education, and how good they are at producing pompous, self-entitled, over-privileged, uneducated, nonobjective, emotional, irrational, agenda-driven, and academically dishonest activists. If I were someone considering an applicant for hire, I would be extremely wary of any graduate from an Ivy League university and lower-level colleges like Evergreen State College. Regarding TikTok: a non-US-citizen-owned, non-US organization, psy-ops website, run by a hostile foreign power, for the purpose of destabilizing, dividing, and generating as much chaos in the US as possible, does not enjoy the protection of the US Constitution. This is not a freedom of speech issue. This is a national security issue. I would say that it's hard to imagine that anyone would allow such a psy-ops weapon into the US to begin with, but considering the greed and stupidity of many folks who hold political office in the US these days, it's surprising they didn't let in MORE.
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Im with John Cockraine on the Tik-Tok issue....if your citizens are too dumb to pick out the BS then their tiny minds probably deserve it. Not really the States job to filter what information the citizens are exposed to, I thought the US are the masters of disinformation and manipulating media? Scared of the competition? 😅
What about the American Backdoors since the dawn of IT? The US should be different than Iran or Turkey or accepting that US WAS part of the free world.
In a Western world where support for Hamas is rising, where old anti-semitic tropes are gaining foothold, and where even Usama bin Laden is being re-evaluated... Yeah, letting the CCP roam freely in a space where our youth gets its information sounds like a great idea!
When critiquing government student loan programs (a worthwhile subject) one also needs to criticize the schools, which have been inflating their tuitions every year for decades, with barely an excuse. It’s a grift and the schools are a key agent. Where’s the honesty in academia?
"Xenophobia" lol. You literally can't operate in Chinese tech market unless you hand over data to CCP. Why should they have open access to our markets and personal data? Our companies are not permitted to operate there effectively. Mutual treatment is called xenophobia by the learned scholar. How silly.
John is confused. The first amendment is for Americans not foreign nationals and their intelligence agencies. Look at how effective television stations and radio were in Romania. It is the responsibility of American Society to protect its under age people foreign influence. As John says, Americans have the right to form their own associations and to have their own freedom of speech. That does not mean that nationals deserve to co-opt, coerce and conceal through business entities.
14:40. John is arguing from a ranked list where the most important items have been lopped off - something we call a “headless salience list”. It is not my place today to put the head back onto the list so we can discuss it. What I will say is that John is right given the items currently discussable on the list.
Regarding TikTok, While you remember COVID and then compare Karl Popper, the Austrian-British philosopher of science, who wrote the influential anti-independent-norm-forming-community book "The Open Society and Its Enemies" with Aldous Huxley's prophetic book "Brave New World"... then it is funny to see people arguing about which anti-independent-norm-forming-community dystopia is the worse, the US's or the CCP's dystopia.
