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Thank you that information was very good like you said they don’t have it in the manual about how fast turn the propane off appreciate you going to the trouble to find out about your generator is having a lot of problems at CU this video thank you
I have the exact same generator. I noticed after you got it started you turned off the glowing red power switch. I always leave mine on. Is there a reason for doing that?
Many years ago I was detailed to the power production shop of the Air Force base I was assigned to. I asked if it was OK to ask questions even though I wasn't a power production technician but only a detail laborer. I had already took the step of leaning in to everything there was to do as hard as I could. The installation team Non Commissioned Officer said no problem and I asked a lot of questions and learned as much as I could. One of the questions that I found the answer really fascinating was why did we put that short section of small pipe into the Natural Gas supply to a standby generator. He told me that the short piece of pipe was selected to supply the full load gas consumption of the generator at "Sonic Flow." Sonic speed is the mechanical engineering way to name the speed of sound. That is as fast as you can get any fluid, liquid or gas, to move through an orifice. No increase in the pressure above that which produces sonic flow will cause any increase in the amount of the gas that will flow. The generator was designed to take its fuel at distribution pressure to a regulator mounted immediately adjacent to the generator. He said if he took a rotary cutter to the short section of flexible fuel line and then turned on the solenoid valve bypass the flow would still be limited to the generator maximum consumption and that it kept that solenoid valve from screwing up the regulator. Perhaps now I know why that would be true. Since a solenoid valve is instant opening the reduced size pipe would keep the regulator diaphragm from being hit with full pressure immediately. The the small pipe would keep the much larger line on the generator side of the solenoid valve from coming up to full supply pressure as soon as the solenoid valve opened. I then asked why some sort of precision orifice wasn't provided with the installation parts. He answered that it is listed in the catalog as an optional item and there wasn't one purchasing agent in the Air Force bureaucracy that would willingly purchase anything that was shown as optional in the manufacturers catalog listing unless it was separately justified as necessary to the installation. He pointed out that the generator winding was not supposed to be bonded to the frame in that application because the generator was the alternate supply for a panel that was supplied by a feeder. Since the winding isolation kit was also "optional" the purchasing officer had not ordered that either because it also had not been separately justified as necessary to the installation. The fact that it was on the requesting officers bill of materials was not adequate justification. I ended up making an isolation kit out of a piece of plexiglass and brass fasteners. That NCO actually said he wished he could hang on to me but command wouldn't have it because I wasn't willing to reenlist. Thank You for helping me figure out how that reduced size pipe piece would protect the regulator. It's nice to finally know. Tom Horne
Perfect explanation! Complex as all get out but it eliminates the pony engine starting clutch. I like the preheat as it makes this engine arctic capable. The US Military used multifuel engines in 2-1/2 & 5 ton vehicles, these had intake manifold flame preheaters..direct flame in the intake manifold. These engines needed high compression to ignite when gasoline was used..sounds backwards but gasoline has higher autoignition temperature than diesel. Diesel engines can run on gasoline if the gas can be coaxed into igniting early enough. That same anti-knock index which prevents engine knock inhibits use in the diesel cycle.
@@PleasantValleyOutdoors Multifuel engines use a single plunger Bosch injection pump with the plunger having engine oil on the gear side, this kept the pump from seizing. Pumps were compensated for fuel density as energy content is proportional to density.
Wait , What , No $500.00 computer to buy? No software? No automatic updates? No big brother watching? And it outlasts it's warranty? how can this be? Oh that's right it was build when stuff mattered to work. long live before computer equipment ! .
I have a champion generator that I use on propane once in a while, I guess I must turn it on slow cause I haven't had that problem, I'm just astonished you would cut your holiday short and go home instead of just putting gasoline in it.
We didn’t cut our trip short. We planned on doing 2 weeks boondocking in the desert before moving to a campground with hookups. We just cut boondocking short 4 or 5 days. Thanks for watching
Sounds like your dad was brilliant, with a good sense of humor, and you mom was patient (in reference to: where you said your dad could sit down and operate the machine while having a cigarette while you mom loaded the logs). :) Thanks for sharing.
A great video. I don't have any "Big" machine like that. I have worked on machines all my life, and I do have and like vintage machines. I enjoyed the video. It was good explanation of how it worked, interesting, thanks. I'm going to look at your channel for more videos. Thanks again.
You sir have a nice little piece of equipment there, I own a td18 Industrial bought it about 30 years ago, use it on a ranch. You have explained perfectly how the starting system works. I have been doing mechanic work all my life, when I bought the Dozer it had pulled scrapers all of its life on a ranch, so with that being said I am now going to weld up the rollers and front idlers, Drive sprockets are still good, it had a new final drive and a major overhaul. Right now I am looking for chains and pins if you know where there is some laying around I would appreciate letting me know, The Growers are still good shape. I have a lot of work on the ranch that's coming up real soon.
Unfortunately I don’t know of any chains around. Years ago I run across a brand new set of rollers for it really cheap. Mine were completely worn out so that really helped. Thanks for watching
@@PleasantValleyOutdoors thanks for replying to me, I have welded so many rollers and front idlers and final drive sprockets in my lifetime I really didn't want to do these rollers in front idlers, but I guess I will. Caterpillar chains are the same in some models I'm still keeping my eyes open trying to find some. Everything's so damn expensive today.
My Napoleon gas grill has a warning to open the propane valve slowly to avoid severely limiting the flow of propane. It says if you open it too quickly you must close the valve, wait 20 minutes or so and then try again, opening the valve slowly.
also you can check if you propane bottle could had checked on you, cause it checked on me today. I had to stick a small felipe screwdriver into the hole of the cylinder and press into it for about 5 to 10 seconds after that it worked like a charm. hope this helps you out.
I love to see the old technology of those simple machines that served us very well. And to see the mess of wires and antennas and sensors on today's diesels that are NOT any more fuel efficient or more durable than the old machines.
You're talking about a gasoline-fueled pony motor. You ought to know that's just the starter for a diesel engine which run on diesel. Your title is deceptive. You might as well claim that a car runs on electricity because it uses a 12 Volt battery to crank the gasoline engine into action. Why is YT recommending so many newly-established channels to me lately? Channels with high production values despite minimal subscriber counts?
How could you claim this has a pony motor when he took apart the mechanism itself! It works nothing like a pony motor! This is THE BEST explanation of this system I have seen on this site, and I think the better question is why do only the channels with no content make these kind of comments?
@@SanchoPanza-wg5xfI have and I use A TD 18 Industrial Dozer for about 30 years, I also have a caterpillar 7 with a gasoline Pony motor. The td18 start exactly like this small Dozer does, the guy that made the video has probably the best instructions how they work that I have seen on any RU-vid channel. With that being said what is your problem, you are a very disrespectful 🤡, you need to learn what the hell you're talking about before you start criticizing other people.
Very nice looking TD 6 you have. I have a TD 9. Haven’t run it in years. Back in the day it was a very good and powerful machine. I hat always heard they were prone to cracking heads. Great video!!
@@user-hq7ss5co6r yes they were. We always left them running all day. Then we let them idle for at least 5 minutes before shutting down. We never had any trouble.
Thanks for the tip. And yes, my Champion generator was acting up with similar symptoms. I thought it was a safety feature on the tanks. Going to be sure I open the LP tank value slowly from now on. Stay safe
Lol this is the first video I've ever seen on RU-vid where they state this. We have to do this all the time at work and I have since started doing it at home on my barbecue grill. We use weed burners at work all the time and if we open the valve too fast very little propane comes out. I noticed it didn't one time on my barbecue grill and ever since then any propane tank I've ever opened I've opened extremely slow like 30 seconds slow and I haven't had the issue since
I just experienced this on a recent trip with my rv propane stove not working. I was sure I either had a leak or a bad regulator. Someone on an rv site mentioned opening the valve slowly. Bingo! Learn something everyday.
The valve you are having a problem with is called a slug valve. It is actually on the output of the propane tank. It is to stop propane from coming out if you have a propane leak. Turning on propane really slowly will slowly build up pressure on the hose side, and the slug valve will not trip. Turning the propane valve on real fast, will result in high propane pressure across the slug valve, closing the slug valve. There by shutting propane flow off to the customer propane device. This slug valve allows a little bit of propane to leak across the valve so the valve can be reset.
But also, yes, you should turn your gas on slowly when it comes to your propane, whether it’s generator your camper your house cause yeah you can risk worst case scenario breaking the diaphragm and having to buy a new one or what he is having problems with I am glad to see people Doing their checks when they do videos such as cleaning the spark aspirator and everything first before finding out that it’s something even simpler so please turn your propane tanks on slowly whether it is generator or whatever❤
Even though I didn’t think it was the spark arrester or valve clearance I like to eliminate everything I can and go from there. Thanks for your comments and for watching
Honestly, the real reason why these generators take a shit is what the maintenance person told him if you’ve got a clog spark Restorator in the exhaust the exhaust ain’t gonna go out so it’s gotta run it full choke clean your exhaust spark Restorator it’ll do you a lot of good? It only takes a second to get it out and then soak it in Solution scrub it with a toothbrush make sure it’s nice and clean and you’re good or you can just burn off the suit on the spark Restorator same exact reason why small engines stop working such as leaf blowers weed whackers chainsaws moral of the story is do the maintenance that you normally would do for a generator. You don’t stop doing maintenance on your vehicle so why would you do that?
Nice! Just went up last night to get my GPA 1951 td6 fired up. Still have to run some new wires. But we managed to hear it crank. I understand the starting now. Can you make a short of the clutch and forward/reverse gears? We have a huge youtube channel on here, I really appreciate these videos. My GPA has passed last August so he isn't around for advice! Thanks
The lever directly in the middle is the throttle for the diesel. Just to the left is the lever to switch from gas to diesel. Up is diesel and down is gas. I’ll have a new video out in a week or so that walks through the whole process of starting this engine. Thanks for watching
@PleasantValleyOutdoors ok thanks for the reply! I will be going up to their house on Sunday to get it running. I just purchased a new 8D battery to throw in it. We should be able to figure it out. I've watch my GPA do it but it's been about 25 years ago 😄
my dad taught me this about 20 years ago. never forgot it. could never get my grill to get hot enough, told me to crack it open slowly. worked! thanks dad!
It's not the generator regulator. It is the propane tank safety valve that gets triggered when you open it too fast. Had happened to me when I used a gas grill
