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$ 22 mil Porsche 917 K racing at Nürburgring 2017 (revving & flames) 

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Engine: 912.10 180° V12 / 4907 cc / 299.4 cu in
Power: 600 bhp / 448 KW @ 8300 rpm
Torque: 563 Nm / 415 ft lbs @ 6400 rpm
Weight: 800 kg / 1,764 lbs
Top Speed: 354 km/h / 220 mph
Event: Oldtimer GP
Race Series:FIA Masters Sportscar championship
Track: Nürburgring
Date: 2017-08-13
Driver: Claudio Roddaro (FRA)
Chassis 917-037
[quote: www.ultimatecar...]Built in 1970 as a spare chassis and reportedly entered for the 1970 Le Mans by Gulf Racing, this car was ultimately not used in period events. Retained by Porsche, the frame was sold to Baur in 1978. Following a brief spell in Switzerland during the early 2000s, it was then acquired by American Carl Thompson. He had the car built to full running order by specialists Gunnar Racing. In addition to the original and unmolested frame, the completed car features around 95% original components. In 2004, chassis 917-037 was sold to Freisinger Motorsport, who entered the car in the 2006 Le Mans Classic for Stephane Ortelli. The car then returned to the United States where it was repainted in Martini colours and campaigned at select events. Early in 2017, it was brought back to Europe once more and joined a Monaco-based Porsche collection. [/quote)
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@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport Год назад
Before more people ask, here's a short explanation about the engine. The 917K has a 180° V12, which is often called flat-12 Some people think however that a "flat engine" is the same as a "boxer engine" That is incorrect.. The way the pistons move is different for each configuration. In a "V" engine the pistons for 1 bank move in the same direction. In a boxer engine the pistons move towards eachother and then away from eachother. Imagine 2 Boxers hitting eachothers fist. Coming towards eachother. According to someone from the Porsche museum (Some people will know him, Benjamin from the JP Performance video's) it is a 180° V12. Even the info next to the 917 cars in the museum says this. I've seen it myself many times.
@MegaJohnhammond
@MegaJohnhammond 7 лет назад
I'm amazed by the number of people walking along, totally oblivious to what just past them
@easternwoods4378
@easternwoods4378 6 лет назад
Like the guy with the gas can
@sgtpepper6379
@sgtpepper6379 5 лет назад
Right? How are you at a race track and know nothing about this car?
@bloqk16
@bloqk16 3 года назад
@MegaJohnhammond . . . I see that at motorsports events: race attendees are wandering around while the race is underway; where I don't see them focusing any attention on the race course where the action is going-on at. Makes me wonder why they went to the trouble to attend the race in the first place.
@Pulsonar
@Pulsonar 2 года назад
@@bloqk16 I’ve seen that at Brands Hatch, many are tourists and are trying to see as much of the famous site itself. There are many race categories on race day nobody is going to sit through every single race, it’s heavy going. So they wander about in the paddock, the many souvenir shops, tuck shops, restaurant/cafe/bars taking pics of expensive sports cars in the car parks. Some are hoping to get autographs of famous drivers they recognise, there’s a lot going on other than cars racing, especially when families are there with restless kids wanting to emulate their heroes in the nearby go kart track.
@redhunnid5142
@redhunnid5142 9 месяцев назад
@@sgtpepper6379They’re there to network they can careless about the cars important people and rich people attend these events
@bandit911
@bandit911 6 лет назад
That car scared me as a kid and it still does today, my all time favourite automobile 👌
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 6 лет назад
It's a lot of people's all-time favourite!
@shinichi917
@shinichi917 7 лет назад
This video should have 917k views.
@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport 7 лет назад
Duret François I agree. ;-)
@DanielTseng100
@DanielTseng100 6 лет назад
It should have even more!
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 4 года назад
Duret François Clever.
@soyounoat
@soyounoat 4 года назад
It's been said that when an airplane design looks right, it flies right. This 917K looks right from all angles. Combine that look with that sound, and it explains itself.
@johncarlson8029
@johncarlson8029 4 года назад
My all time personal favorite !!! Nothing on the earth goes up and down my spine. That sound maaaaaan
@heliopolis29
@heliopolis29 7 лет назад
The best LMP1 car of all time.
@AndrewLewer90
@AndrewLewer90 7 лет назад
Not true. The Mazda 787B is. They killed it by making it illegal, because everyone saw how powerful it was. That project would've easily dominated at Le Mans and the WEC for more than 5 years.
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 7 лет назад
Long before that, surely.
@heliopolis29
@heliopolis29 7 лет назад
Not me thinks.
@boredtacos19
@boredtacos19 7 лет назад
Lol the 787b only won because it sucked so much that they took 500 kilos of weight out to help it, and even then it was slower, and only won because of reliability
@Karibanu
@Karibanu 7 лет назад
Yeah, what got GrC banned in original form were huge budgets with no suitable replacement for the 962 for privateers & it eating into F1 popularity. Mazda were long supporters of GrC, but never really managed results. The Saubers would have to be the ultimates of the era from results... 170kg less than the other C2 entries for the 787b, that is a massive bonus. Johnny Herbert nearly killing himself helped too...
@surfside75
@surfside75 5 лет назад
Is this the most unreal racecar by Porsche!!! 😍😱😁
@josebrown5961
@josebrown5961 Год назад
Ahh yes my favorite Porsche! If only Porsche would make a street version today, like Ford did with the GT in 05. It would have to be slightly larger of course. It also probably would need a redesign of the rear so the wheels wouldn’t be exposed. That is just my fantasy.
@iNSANEcOOkieMONstEr
@iNSANEcOOkieMONstEr 4 года назад
I see that Ron Dennis found a new job.
@arfshesaid4325
@arfshesaid4325 5 лет назад
why is it that i never seem to see these beasts in slicks
@byrondot
@byrondot 6 лет назад
Simply The beast.
@johng4113
@johng4113 4 года назад
Why is the dude running after him with the jerry can ?
@klaus8287
@klaus8287 6 лет назад
Just a monster
@SuperHeliboy
@SuperHeliboy 5 лет назад
I never would've thought a bike could pass a 917! 4:55.
@Jarek_73
@Jarek_73 Год назад
😄👍
@johngreen8693
@johngreen8693 Год назад
Stunning - with a road legal number plate?
@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport Год назад
Yes, the owner lives near Monaco.
@recnepsgnitnarb6530
@recnepsgnitnarb6530 5 лет назад
Why was Stumpen running after the car with the gas can? Awesome car, one of my fave Porsches.
@TyrantTitan.
@TyrantTitan. 3 года назад
0:55 What model is that? 1/64 scale?
@soyounoat
@soyounoat 6 лет назад
From 3:52 to 6:00 this car oozes nasty badass wicked cool.
@epistte
@epistte 6 лет назад
It was like Moses parting the Red Sea as this beast rolled up to the false grid. Everyone knew to get out of the way of the big dog.
@csmith9684
@csmith9684 5 лет назад
You hear that project cars2 thats how they sound!
@superbracey
@superbracey 4 года назад
Right. I'm loading Project Cars 2 now.
@georjaum12
@georjaum12 7 лет назад
OMG sounds sick !
@Korino
@Korino 7 лет назад
Flat 12, boyyo!
@AidenWestori
@AidenWestori 4 года назад
Just wondering, but why would Porsche think that having the engine fan exposed, yet covering the cylinders right next to it would be a good thing? Am I getting something wrong here?
@INDIGOBLUE555
@INDIGOBLUE555 4 года назад
The point being ?
@bloqk16
@bloqk16 3 года назад
@Aiden West . . . the engine fan exposed was to aid in the air-cooling of the engine. I'm a bit uncertain about the _cylinders_ you refer to? If you mean the _injector ports?_ The bodywork covered it as part of the aero package of the car's body, and, to assist with the airflow intake into the injector's ports. Having injector ports in the wrong place can hinder the air intake.
@adnanabdullah6482
@adnanabdullah6482 5 лет назад
no earplugs, no nothing for that guy who lean over the engines..haha. ... say whattt ?????
@Pulsonar
@Pulsonar 4 года назад
As far as I’m concerned, the prototype category reached their peak not long after JW Automotive made the 917K a world beater with the ‘Kurzheck’ aerodynamic solution that was quickly adopted by the factory and every privateer before the category was banned after 1971. The evolution was so astonishing between 1966 and 71, there is nothing to compare. The next great thing to happen in endurance was the way Porsche engineered their 911 based group 5 935 cars into overall Le Mans winners whilst at the same time reworking an old 70s LM winning museum piece the 936 prototype to be their new Le Mans killer - manifesting in the 956, and 962 group C monsters that totally dominated the 1980s. ...Still not as spectacular as the 917K to my layman’s mind, for me the 917 remains an unequalled paradigm shift, forever the greatest of all endurance racers.
@INDIGOBLUE555
@INDIGOBLUE555 4 года назад
A true legend besides being a remarkably beautiful car,an amazing example of beauty and function blended in a winning racing car. Just let me add that,as for my recollection,the 917 had to struggle the mighty Ferrari 512S and M evolution whilst the 956/962 had virtually no challengers in their years. Time goes by and memories can be fading away yet I guess Porsche had no big deal to make it in the 80/90 racing seasons. Hat off in front of the stunning 917K !
@Pulsonar
@Pulsonar 4 года назад
indigoblue555 Dont get me wrong I’m very aware of what Ferrari achieved after their legendary P prototypes were banned after 1967 and Enzo throwing toys out of his pram in 1968 and pulling out of the WSC. The Ferrari 512S then M prototypes were considered a serious threat to Porsches 917 in all guises. Ferrari threw down the gauntlet at all and sundry, but eventually bowed out of WSC with one of their unsung heroes the 312PB (albeit in a post-917 WSC world). However, I still rate the 917K as the greatest simply because it evolved into a triumphant monster despite a difficult debut. It was perfected by Horsman and Wyer, the same team players that brought Aston-Martin LM ‘59 victory, and contributed to the LM ‘66 victory of Ford over Ferrari, and continued the success story with Ford GT40 MK1 LM’68 and ‘69 winners. It’s development and success was simply perfect because they were also up against the best and last of Ferrari prototypes before rule changes and prototype bans.Even in Can-Am the 917 continued and destroyed all comers. Even Mclarens mighty M8 series of Can-Am winners had no answer to the 917/xx evolution. You’re right Porsche virtually owned group C from unprecedented success with their perfect 956 and 962 prototypes throughout the ‘80s. But serious competition didn’t arrive until the late 80s, races seemed like a Porsche parade for much of the decade.
@INDIGOBLUE555
@INDIGOBLUE555 4 года назад
@@Pulsonar :) I agree,my fault. I didn't highlight that I I was strictly focused on the different situation on the field:917 had a tough competitor to deal with ,whilst the 956/962s winning seasons can ""almost"" be rated as a single brand (monobrand) trophy .... That's why I do rate the 917 project being in one of its own class, showing a possibly unequalled escalation in performance as you're correctly stating, making it to an unprecedented successful carreer in racing history. I'm an ex multi Porsche owner,about 14 amongst 911,and a couple of 944,ranging from the late 60es production to early 90es,and I deeply esteem german engineering yet I feel that the racing regulations of the 80es were,at some extent Porsche friendly.... nicely talking:) Greetings !
@Pulsonar
@Pulsonar 4 года назад
indigoblue555 To put it simpler, the 917 was the bedrock from which all Porsche’s future prototypes endurance racing prototype successes drew inspiration from. I am also a former Porsche owner. Unfortunately I never owned the classic 911 Carrera 2/4/RS etc... I owned a 928S4 for many years, Porsche front-engined V8s were rare but cheap on the used market (not so cheap now as the 928 is now considered a l classic) It was a fantastic supremely comfortable and easy car to drive at high speed on motorways, but expensive to maintain especially the infamous drive belt water pump and occasional ECU problems. Porsche make great cars but to experience the real world automotive success story, is an expensive business for consumers, c’est la vie! I may never own my true dream cars (911 GT3RS or 911 turbo S) due to family commitments, but at least I can watch vids and reminisce on those old 60s/70s supercar racers from the golden age that totally fascinated me when I was a child.
@INDIGOBLUE555
@INDIGOBLUE555 4 года назад
@@Pulsonar Yes, that was a great experience for me as well.Loads of fun and no speed traps!
@thebossnocompetition8757
@thebossnocompetition8757 4 года назад
why is the mechanic running like an maniac behind the car? is he affraid that the fuel will go out ;)
@kombi59hotporscherbandumko53
@kombi59hotporscherbandumko53 7 лет назад
top...............
@harraz7489
@harraz7489 5 лет назад
Horn is not working?
@INDIGOBLUE555
@INDIGOBLUE555 4 года назад
Well,if needed......just rev it a little bit :)
@almstim
@almstim 7 лет назад
Who came up with the $22 million dollar number? It's inaccurate. One just sold in Monterey for $15 million
@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport 7 лет назад
I found that on a Porsche 917 website. It is an estimate of $ 22m.
@thomaslindsay324
@thomaslindsay324 6 лет назад
the value is based of the history of the specific car, such factors as the reputation of the team, which events it ran in and has run in recently.
@TexasRed1961
@TexasRed1961 5 лет назад
When dinosaurs roamed the track...
@senorboardhead
@senorboardhead 4 года назад
Wlell there is 10 minutes down the drain
@Elkins82ify
@Elkins82ify 7 лет назад
The way the bodywork in the rear goes up and straight back leaving those beefy rear tires exposed is just pure fucking sickness!!!! An era of Motorsport never to be seen again.
@tinman4666
@tinman4666 7 лет назад
could not agree more.
@nolibtard6023
@nolibtard6023 6 лет назад
All the good things happened before we were born.
@mobius-1503
@mobius-1503 6 лет назад
Preach
@se461
@se461 7 лет назад
This is one good reason to be a very wealthy person. All I would need is two cars. This one and one to take me to the track to drive it.
@hugof.7977
@hugof.7977 6 лет назад
Steve A. Totally agree, but there is a plate (from Monaco), so you can take this on the track and go back home after that !
@streetracingsyndicate9512
@streetracingsyndicate9512 5 лет назад
go get it boy ;) you can!
@fw1421
@fw1421 4 года назад
Stefan 929 You need a transporter to get it to the track too,and mechanics,several experienced mechanics.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@bocquetromuald7154
@bocquetromuald7154 4 года назад
Fred Barendse absolutely false. the 917 never killed someone, but the 312/512 ..
@jmzochsnrtr
@jmzochsnrtr 3 года назад
Lol ya don't say
@greaser3069
@greaser3069 7 лет назад
Coolest race cars ever made. The golden era of racing.
@StuntcatTV
@StuntcatTV 2 года назад
Have you ever seen one up close or sat in one? You'd be surprised
@jraybay
@jraybay 7 лет назад
She is a beauty and she has a lovely singing voice D: Great racing machine of all time
@jraybay
@jraybay 7 лет назад
Kronocide This is a shared account and I have some family who aren't native English speakers, that's life. Save your shitty reply next time kiddo. You also wrote out something that wasn't even commented in the first place. Great job. Stfu
@bigdog1476
@bigdog1476 7 лет назад
22 mil for the car and the support gu y with the gas can can't get a golf cart wtf
@bogthing1
@bogthing1 7 лет назад
I was gonna say, he can't get a scooter, hell, even a bike with the little sulky-thing?!?
@easternwoods4378
@easternwoods4378 7 лет назад
Got to save money someplace
@abystrous
@abystrous 6 лет назад
+Eastern Woods fair point, gotta save up for the highly probable endless black hole of money this thing probably needs to just run this thing is so old now ;3;
@xXAlmdudlerXx
@xXAlmdudlerXx 5 лет назад
22 mil and not a penny more
@freibier
@freibier 5 лет назад
Well, as the owner/driver of this car, you have to assert dominance over your servants somehow.
@davidmandziuk8493
@davidmandziuk8493 7 лет назад
This is the reason I stopped watching NASCAR. These 917 K are an absolute BEAST. Absolute pure racing
@angelruben1835
@angelruben1835 4 года назад
En Mulsanne Jackie Oliver casi llega a los 400km/hora en 1972,con un 917,el mejor y más iconico SP de la Historia del automovilismo,una bestia,una máquina de ganar,una leyenda sobre ruedas!!! facebook.com/929048017281304/posts/1457538901098877/?vh=e&d=nmás iconico SP de la
@brodieben1
@brodieben1 6 лет назад
God.I remember those 917s from when i was a kid.NOTHING HAD A CHANCE against them.What a machine.A piece of my youth right there.
@fargeeks
@fargeeks 2 года назад
now it cost more than a brand new Formula 1 car
@SuperExcedrin
@SuperExcedrin 7 лет назад
1971, Mulsane straight, 240 MPH, 3 in the morning, surrounded by aluminum chassis/fuel tanks and gasoline............FFS that must have been heaven!
@Sadowsky1965
@Sadowsky1965 7 лет назад
Mulsanne was the bend, the straight was the Hunaudieres. All the rest you wrote is great. Porsche 917, Ferrari 312 PB and Matra Simca MS670 are the best racing cars of all time.
@easternwoods4378
@easternwoods4378 6 лет назад
I think the drivers would have backed off if they had a speedometer. I remember a story about a driver asking how fast it was. the engineer asked what the revs were, got out his SLIDE RULE and told the driver he didn't want to know
@hertzwave8001
@hertzwave8001 6 лет назад
It did nowhere near 240, lol
@vitakyo982
@vitakyo982 6 лет назад
The 917 LH n°21 did reach a speed of 246 mph in 1971 , only beaten in 1988 by the WM P88 (peugeot) with 253 mph .
@hertzwave8001
@hertzwave8001 6 лет назад
www.mulsannescorner.com/maxspeed.htm There is nothing in it's specs that points to it being able to do anywhere near 240, also even if it did do 246 the Sauber C9 did 248
@SuperExcedrin
@SuperExcedrin 7 лет назад
Race cars were so much more beautiful before wind tunnels and CFD.
@o.a.m9515
@o.a.m9515 5 лет назад
@@w0nd3r6 he's an asshole for what exactly??
@mrpistonrecaro6483
@mrpistonrecaro6483 5 лет назад
_D3LTA-3_ that’s your title
@90AlmostFamous
@90AlmostFamous 5 лет назад
@@o.a.m9515 sounds like an sjw of race cars lol , How dare u not call modern cars beautiful
@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo 4 года назад
@@90AlmostFamous lol he does sound like a SJW.......
@LynGriffiths70
@LynGriffiths70 4 года назад
917 was developed in a wind tunnel.
@absolutelydisgusted8665
@absolutelydisgusted8665 7 лет назад
Imagine how painful it would be to crash this
@Zytiron
@Zytiron 7 лет назад
Pavel Rybalko I believe the word your conveying is "suicidal". lol
@ferrarigirl666
@ferrarigirl666 7 лет назад
I was thinking the same
@easternwoods4378
@easternwoods4378 6 лет назад
For the owner, painful. The driver wouldn't feel a thing
@batvette
@batvette 6 лет назад
Pavel Rybalko nonsense. They pressurized the tube frame so it was the first use of safety airbags. Driver was completely protected from any harm. Donohue hit the wall at 90 degrees at speed at talladega and reportedly said "can I get a do over?".
@MiniOne82
@MiniOne82 6 лет назад
I'm sure the owner wouldn't be bothered. He/she wouldn't allow it on track if they were.
@stevefowler2112
@stevefowler2112 6 лет назад
She's a beaut, and at 600 H.P. a real baest.. now imagine this basic engine and car (in open cockpit and much lighter at about 1,600 lbs.) with twin turbos and over 1,200 H.P. (max 1,500) they called it the 917/30 and it dominated Can-Am in the U.S. in '73....most likely the fastest road race car ever built.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 6 лет назад
+Steve Fowler Totally different car. There was actually very little commonality.
@dawalt009
@dawalt009 4 года назад
@@thethirdman225 It's a 917/30 only difference was longer wheel base and twin turbos, 5.4 litre engine still the same flat 12 aircooled configuration. Same same but only little difference.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 4 года назад
@@dawalt009 I know exactly what the 917/30 was. Every time anyone brings up the 917 someone thinks it's an ace card to talk about the 917/30 and all the happens is that people get confused. The 917K and LH were endurance racers designed to a completely different rule and unrelated to the Can Am car. All you're doing is confusing people. If you think the modifications were minor, you are wrong.
@dawalt009
@dawalt009 4 года назад
@@thethirdman225 Seriously? 1/ Porsche 917, same name 2/ flat 12, same motor, bigger bore but with turbos 3/same undercarriage, longer wheel base 4/ 917 with roof, 917/30 open 5/ same gearbox The difference is like having a V8 Mustang or a V8 Shelby Mustang. You must see through the blind spots.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 4 года назад
@dawalt009 *_"1/ Porsche 917, same name"_* So what? *_"2/ flat 12, same motor, bigger bore but with turbos"_* So, not the same motor then... Massively different, in fact. Also different compression ratio, different fuel consumption... *_"3/same undercarriage, longer wheel base"_* So, not the same chassis then... Vastly different aero too. *_"4/ 917 with roof, 917/30 open"_* Completely different bodywork and different aero, as I already pointed out. *_"5/ same gearbox"_* Except that one was 4-speed and the other 5-speed... All in all, not a lot of similarities. Certainly not the same car. All you're doing is confusing people. The 917/30 never raced at Le Mans or, indeed, in any World Sportscar Championship races because it wasn't eligible. You're just trying to outdo people with claims of massive top speeds and horsepower figures. There’s always one.
@3men2sify
@3men2sify 6 лет назад
get the mechanic a bike t least!!! poor guy running after the car
@shonuffisthemaster
@shonuffisthemaster 5 лет назад
that anouncer needs to shut up so we can hear the car;)
@franklucas6441
@franklucas6441 7 лет назад
amazing.. watched your video of her idle down the pits over and over for 15 minutes - what a beauty
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 7 лет назад
Monaco plates? Is that road legal in Monaco then? Just about anything seems to be.
@goldonilorenzo
@goldonilorenzo 7 лет назад
there was a car in the '70 registred in Alabama.Owner was Conut Rossi of Martini e Rossi
@nolibtard6023
@nolibtard6023 6 лет назад
Surely it is street legal that’s a perfect example for what money can buy
@ferraricorvette1
@ferraricorvette1 6 лет назад
Yes, you can't believe it. Put its true! :-)
@vic7939
@vic7939 4 года назад
Fun fact, while there were built 25 units of the 1969-1970 Porsche917, this 917K variant only 12 were produced for 1970-1971, thus the rarity. K stands for Kurzheck (short-tail).
@dropje1000
@dropje1000 7 лет назад
COOL. But not a V 12, The 'Type 912' engine featured a 180° flat-12 cylinder layout, twin overhead camshafts driven from centrally mounted gears and twin spark plugs fed from two distributors.[11] The large horizontally mounted cooling fan was also driven from centrally mounted gears. The longitudinally mounted gearbox was designed to take a set of four or five gears.
@JB91710
@JB91710 7 лет назад
Do you mean like this? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bgHMvbItu_0.html Check out all me videos. If you can't afford to buy one.............
@KartmanWolf
@KartmanWolf 6 лет назад
Actually, it is a 180 Degree V12. It's classified as a V, because connecting rods share crank journals. On a flat, each connecting rod has it's own crank journal.
@urgonnaluvit
@urgonnaluvit 5 лет назад
You are correct 180 tells you its a flat 12 , regardless of crank journal arrangment
@surfside75
@surfside75 5 лет назад
@@KartmanWolf Boom! 😁
@JB91710
@JB91710 5 лет назад
So does mine! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4oCUVlGvUrQ.html
@carolinehart9860
@carolinehart9860 3 года назад
Unquestionably the best racing car ever made
@JB91710
@JB91710 4 года назад
When I was at Lime Rock years ago the owner wanted $1.3m. Damn him, he wouldn't take a check!!!
@Patmofar
@Patmofar 4 года назад
@The ThirdMan The Lockheed SR71 Blackbird and the Aerospatiale BAC Concorde, were built by the same generation of engineers and like the Porsche 917 both of those remain unbeaten too. Nothing made today even comes close to those engineering marvels either. Your CAD/CAM hasn't given us anything that even comes close to them. The Boeing MAX is an unsurprising product of CAD/CAM technology. Flawed and dangerous. The calculations that you quote were correct when they were made. The long tail was quickly figured out to be an evolutionary dead end and dropped despite one finishing second in the 1970 Le Mans. It roasted its rear wheel bearings and its rear tyres due to the heat coming off of the air-cooled engine being captured by the long tail bodywork. But its main fault was that it was aerodynamically flawed. You don't factor in the fact that Porsche were constantly developing the engine getting more and more power from it. In its final (not Le Mans form) it developed 1560 bhp in qualifying and consistently delivered 1100 bhp in racing trim in CanAm where it was so unbeatable that it destroyed the CanAm series. Wheel creep does not matter when your have horsepower a plenty. It went to the North American CanAm series after the FIA changed the rule-book to ban it from racing in Europe because it was so successful. Porsche also tested but never raced an 1800 bhp version. With all due respect to you its not like comparing a Sopwith Camel with an F14 Tomcat. Its like comparing the Blackbird with the Tomcat. No contest. A fairer comparison would be to compare the 917 with the Ford Model T if you are going to compare the F14 with the Sopwith Camel. The warbird Tomcat could, just barely, catch the Concorde, a mere passenger plane! But if the Concorde had even a slight lead on the Tomcat, the Tomcat would run out of fuel long, long before that happened because the difference between their top speeds was marginal. The Tomcat was good for a short burst of Mach 2+. Concorde could cross the Atlantic at Mach 2+ and did so daily for twenty seven glorious years. The Tomcat was also replaced by an inferior aircraft. The Mach 1.8 F18 Hornet which was a lot slower than Concorde never mind the Blackbird. Engineers today rely on CAD to do their engineering for them and thus are not really engineers at all. They are only computer programmers, pure and simple. The genius of men like Clarence Kelly Johnson and Hans Mezger does not exist in the engineering world today. Nor is there anything to equal the machines they designed and built without CAD/CAM. This generation of CAD/Camless engineers also landed men on the moon, something else that is not going to happen again anytime soon. The Americans cannot even put a man into space today and are reduced to hitching lifts to the International Space Station from the Russians in their non-CAD/CAM designed Soyuz rockets. And, no, the CAD/CAM designed VSS Unity VP-03 doesn't count. It made a sub-orbital flight no better than the one John Glenn did fifty eight years ago in 1962 in the non-CAD/CAM Friendship 7. Whether you like the fact or not, the unbeatable Porsche 917 Kurzheck remains the greatest car ever built. Like Concorde, like Blackbird, like Apollo, over fifty years after it was designed and built there is nothing made today that even comes close to matching the magnificent 917K. There is nothing even being designed today that will surpass any of these engineering icons. The SS United States, the largest passenger ship ever built in America, took the 'fastest crossing of the Atlantic by a passenger ocean liner record' in 1952 winning the much coveted and prestigious Blue Riband. It still holds the Blue Riband today. It will probably hold the Blue Riband forever because none of the modern CAD/CAM built liners of today come even close to matching her speed or her beauty either. Not everything done today is better than it was before. Unequalled, unbeaten and utterly beautiful looking engineering masterpieces; all of them. As a small child I saw Richard Attwood and Hans Hermann win the 1970 Le Mans 24 Hours in a 917K with Willi Kauhsen and Gerard Larrousse finishing second in a 917 Langenheck. I have seen many racing cars race since then but I have never seen the equal of those monsters that just dominated all around them nor have I ever heard better than the spine tingling haunting glory banshee howl of their air-cooled flat twelve engines being pushed to their limits down the Mulsanne straight at 385 kph at night. Not only do they not make cars like that any more, they do not make drivers of that quality anymore either. I have also been privileged to fly Concorde. Bahrain to London, an upgrade that I really could not afford at the time, departing Bahrain at six o'clock in the morning. The upgrade was more than worth it as I saw three sunrises in one day, I have flown faster than a rifle bullet, I have flown at 53,000 feet and have seen the darkness of space and the curvature of the earth. I have flown at Mach 2.02. Nobody today can do this and it will be many, many years yet before they can do so again, if, indeed, they ever can. There is no 'bigger and better' today. There are only the unbeaten icons of history. Take your CAD/CAM and shove it where the sun don't shine. What you are claiming about the 917K is the same as claiming that the Boeing MAX is a better aircraft than Concorde because it was designed using CAD/CAM and is built using composite materials rather than the, mostly aluminium, that both the non-CAD/CAM 917 and Concorde were built from. Yeah! Right it is. Ha, ha, ha. My generation invented the internet and went to the Moon. Your generation invented Facebook and went to Playstation.
@nemindagamage9186
@nemindagamage9186 3 года назад
Not even god could have said this any better 🙏🙏, I however was born to the play station loving hyper car chasing generation but luckily I was blessed with the mindset of someone from the 60-80s era and therefore I only prefer classic vehicles and the way you've actually bridged the gap between the concorde is pretty smart. However don't forget the gt40 alfa romeo 159 alfetta and the other greats they too were invincible in their own right.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 года назад
We've already been through this and you left with your tail between your legs, calling me all sorts of names after you got your arse handed to you. Very dignified. Not.
@Patmofar
@Patmofar 3 года назад
@@thethirdman225 Glad to know you are now out of hibernation and doing well! Nothing has changed while you were asleep, The Lockheed SR71 Blackbird, the Aerospatiale BAC Concorde and the Porsche 917K are still unbeaten masterpieces. Stick with your Sopwith Camel and your absolutely wonderful, world beating CAD/CAM Boeing MAX. P.S. I am sure you will be happy to know that no one has walked on the moon again since you went to sleep.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 года назад
@@Patmofar *_"The Lockheed SR71 Blackbird, the Aerospatiale BAC Concorde and the Porsche 917K are still unbeaten masterpieces."_* Unbeaten in what respect? You've never quantified this, other than long, boring opinions. *_"Stick with your Sopwith Camel and your absolutely wonderful, world beating CAD/CAM Boeing MAX."_* Sopwith Camel? The Boeing 737 (which I never mentioned) was designed in the same timeframe as the Concorde and slightly after the De Havilland Comet.
@toastopia1
@toastopia1 7 лет назад
i think its great that they are taking these old cars out! if they sit, its the worse thing to do to these cars! drive them dont store them in a museum! plus these cars are being driven by professionals! i really would think the driver knows how much to push this car! thanks for the close up look!
@noelobrien7743
@noelobrien7743 Год назад
Too expensive to realy race , nothing to prove and everything to protect .
@alexandervanwyk7669
@alexandervanwyk7669 5 лет назад
Porsche, all other cars - traffic.
@fandavidbeckham
@fandavidbeckham 6 лет назад
I was at Spa-Francorchamps for the 1000 km of 1970. I was there to see Rodriguez and Siffert have a kiss. But I was also at the GP of East London South Africa in 1962? I might be getting old. I was also at Le Mans in 1988 and 1989. But I was also there to see Belgium vs France for the Davis Cup in 2017. MDR.
@STRIDER_503
@STRIDER_503 7 лет назад
I love how everyone turn their eyes on her when she passes by.
@karlphilipp93
@karlphilipp93 6 лет назад
The greatest racing car ever built ,bar none. Even after 48 years, the sound of that engine gives me chills. If I had one wish before I died, it would be to drive that machine! Also, in another video, I heard a Porsche factory mechanic say the engine was a 180 degree flat V 12? doesn"t make sense. How can you have a flat V?
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 6 лет назад
It refers to the layout of the crankshaft.
@MiniOne82
@MiniOne82 6 лет назад
Perfection, just pure raw perfection. Wow just wow.
@RammiejAudi
@RammiejAudi 7 лет назад
Geweldig apparaat! Fraaie video. Hoop deze volgend jaar bij Spa Classic te zien! Eigenaar was vorig jaar aanwezig met z'n 908 volgens mij? Volgende keer wel die arme man met de jerrycan meenemen op je fiets hahaha.
@howieleem
@howieleem 7 лет назад
Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't those Monaco plates, making it road legal?
@easternwoods4378
@easternwoods4378 6 лет назад
That was my first thought too. What a car to pick up your date
@paulthomson9709
@paulthomson9709 6 лет назад
Howard Leeming pretty sure i heard somewhere that count rossi made this a road legal 917 and drove it on the road
@Logan912
@Logan912 6 лет назад
Eastern Woods They're street legal anyway.
@merlemorrison482
@merlemorrison482 6 лет назад
depends on whose streets - I'm pretty sure they wouldn't pass US safety or emissions standards.....
@bharath595
@bharath595 6 лет назад
Yes, the owner made them street legal.
@ferdinandhuergas6040
@ferdinandhuergas6040 3 года назад
Who says money can't buy happiness??
@rollingstopp
@rollingstopp 6 лет назад
if you plan on spending 20 million on a car Do get a Porche 917 K only
@ericcoppala8234
@ericcoppala8234 3 года назад
One of the most gorgeous cars ever made.
@nicolaasjansevanrensburg7543
@nicolaasjansevanrensburg7543 8 месяцев назад
Agree
@alexanderfederowicz
@alexanderfederowicz 3 года назад
In the Pit where they are Trying to Track down a misfire there... they hear it, but with 12 cylinders they really need telemetry software... Old School Analog needs a long hearing tube held to each cylinder to track down the skipping misfire... Despite what some think, It damned well matters, lest the engine blows from misfire over-stress half way through a race like that... Mandatory Analog telemetry sensors on the frame and other key stress points along side a complete wrap-around coarse film camera coverage of the entire course for the 24/7 of the Lemans Active Race, could have provided Science and Engineering with life saving data on the disintegration of the Ford GT-40 MK II that disintegrated at the end of the Lemans strait run... A Long High speed stretch where 200++ mph. is reached consistently by many of the Factory Cars in that race. The Forces at that speed can break an aircraft as well as a Road Race Auto...
@chriswalker2858
@chriswalker2858 4 года назад
My favourite Porsche a 917K but in Gulf livery... 😎
@paolomargini7904
@paolomargini7904 2 года назад
After the 917 all the Le Mans cars till nowadays can be considered 917, because that is the shape, can make any variations, still back to that root it goes.
@StevieVman1
@StevieVman1 11 месяцев назад
The words you are looking for would be similar to lunacy, unfathomable, past insane - like Psyco.
@JanMichaelFranklin
@JanMichaelFranklin 5 лет назад
Doesn't 180 degrees make it a flat 12?
@SuperRede4u
@SuperRede4u 4 года назад
How they could ever put in a "V12" in the description is beyond me. Why not call it a diesel why you are at it? Both are patently wrong!
@danjo1967
@danjo1967 3 года назад
yes - its a flat12
@constantinosschinas4503
@constantinosschinas4503 2 года назад
@@SuperRede4u The arrangement and crackshaft is that of a V, at 180 degrees. That is why it is a V180, whether we like it, or not.
@alexandervanwyk7669
@alexandervanwyk7669 3 года назад
What's the quickest way to make $10m? Buy a 917 and enjoy it for 4 or5 years.
@StuntcatTV
@StuntcatTV 2 года назад
I got that modelcar too 😁
@ps-mq7tm
@ps-mq7tm 2 года назад
Why does it have a license plate (Monaco)? 🤷‍♂️
@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport 2 года назад
Because the owner made it streetlegal.
@johndeere1951a
@johndeere1951a 2 года назад
Because it can .
@bobbycuesroadhouse2204
@bobbycuesroadhouse2204 2 года назад
The absolute best racing car of all time. Period
@Heavitrooper
@Heavitrooper 6 лет назад
I would completely lose my shit when I would see a 917 in real life and some people were walking by like there is nothing
@markuskirstein5684
@markuskirstein5684 6 лет назад
me too such a brutal car i love it 😍
@YPO6
@YPO6 4 года назад
Run gasoline man run
@gonzaloreyes8782
@gonzaloreyes8782 6 лет назад
Le Mans 1970
@jmzochsnrtr
@jmzochsnrtr 3 года назад
Its a showcar
@picax8398
@picax8398 Год назад
props to drive 22 million dollars of car so hard after all these years
@chuckselvage3157
@chuckselvage3157 2 года назад
Legend
@theophilhist6455
@theophilhist6455 4 года назад
Poor old guy with the can running along with the 917 conked out after jogging a 1/2 mile and finally caught up. "Sorry Hans we couldn't afford a golf cart, we maxed out on budget".
@i8nm3gp
@i8nm3gp 6 лет назад
i always see those avon tyres on old school race cars
@Crusader1815
@Crusader1815 6 лет назад
The front of the 917 just says "Get out of my way - don't even think of fucking with me" like no other car ever.
@eriktruchinskas3747
@eriktruchinskas3747 5 лет назад
I know the 917/30 had a spool system, im not sure about other models but if it does it must have been a bear getting it around low speed corners (any guys with welded diffs and no power steering who have to make u turns know what I mean
@daos3300
@daos3300 3 года назад
real beauty. but for me these events are ruined by the unrelenting, blabbing commentary. at least we got to hear it idle uninterrupted.
@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport 3 года назад
Thanks. I'm also not a fan of commentary at the racetrack. Or even worse, loud music during a race playing on the speakers around the track. :/
@AKHalex
@AKHalex 6 лет назад
0:42 That sound...!
@danielsizer2222
@danielsizer2222 3 года назад
Track day ..... car ? 917 ok you can go for free 🤣
@KartmanWolf
@KartmanWolf 5 лет назад
Baddest assest race car. But for 22M, I might have opted for building a 917 factory.
@jasonjackson3114
@jasonjackson3114 3 года назад
Multiple people speaking Deutsche in the background adds to the feeling of conviction.
@mariusjustus678
@mariusjustus678 5 лет назад
PORSCHE 917 ......... HELLS ON WHEELS........ MASTERPIECE OF GERMAN POWERCAR. THATS A CAR FOR A MAN.....OR A WOMAN .NOT FOR THE NEW GENERATION . MC PUNK
@soundofeighthooves
@soundofeighthooves 6 лет назад
Porsche should make a flat 12 Supercar
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 4 года назад
Their V-10 Carrera was something else.
@stefanreiman3527
@stefanreiman3527 2 года назад
This 917K and the C9/C11 Sauber Benz are the greatest Race Cars ever seen on road
@Barrenchats
@Barrenchats 3 года назад
There comes a time in a Porsche owners life when getting passed, makes you smile so hard your can't remove it for hours.
@nicolinobovieri7575
@nicolinobovieri7575 4 года назад
Porsche 917......the F1...to..wheels......blankets.....!!!😁😁😁. Very good 👍. Thanks.
@jbss7382
@jbss7382 7 лет назад
For Christ sake! Pity he didn't put the mechanic on the side board and give him a lift!! #teamwork!!!!!!
@DarkstarDarth
@DarkstarDarth 4 года назад
Could someone get Marty Feldman a dam skateboard of something?
@georgiaguardian4696
@georgiaguardian4696 2 года назад
Looks every bit as 2022 as of now! Amazing design!
@mannyschlaich
@mannyschlaich 9 месяцев назад
Wow. There is no substitute
@stefandominitzki
@stefandominitzki 4 года назад
Imagine this car drove the Nordschleife with more than 1000 hp. Must have been totaly crasy.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 года назад
It never did. The 917 never made 1,000hp except in CanAm and they didn't race at the 'Ring. The 908 was a better choice and that's what the teams ran.
@2JZLS
@2JZLS 6 лет назад
22 million dollars are you f*****
@Volldepp100
@Volldepp100 6 лет назад
Ist not a V12 - ist a Boxer 12 Zyl.
@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport 6 лет назад
Holger Henn Are you sure? According to someone from the Porsche museum it is a 180° V12. Even the info next to the 917 cars in the museum says this. I've seen it myself.
@Volldepp100
@Volldepp100 6 лет назад
haha, what is 180 degrees - a boxer engine
@Volldepp100
@Volldepp100 6 лет назад
V engine is 90 or a little more degrees - but 180 !!!
@Belgian-Motorsport
@Belgian-Motorsport 6 лет назад
No, not always. Do some research about the difference between a boxer and 180° V-engine. There are plenty of video's on youtube. The way the pistons move is different for each configuration. In a "V" engine the pistons for 1 bank move in the same direction. In a boxer engine the pistons move towards eachother and then away from eachother.
@deaddoll1361
@deaddoll1361 5 лет назад
@@Belgian-Motorsport In a vee engine the cylinders describe a letter vee in relation to the crankshaft. A flat, or 180 degree cylinder banks cannot form a vee shape, a simple check on a protractor will prove that. That is the engines "configuration" and changing the crankshaft pins doesn't change that configuration. A flat-plane crankshaft in a V8 engine doesn't change its configuration.
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