$10 vs $100 vs $1,000 vs $10,000 | Commander Clash S16 E15 

What does 10k have to do with drawing land? It still plays the same amount of land

​@@TheRealSAFNplay good lands lol

​@@TheRealSAFNRichard doesn't play like a low amount of lands. If you check the decklist he runs 38 plus 3 mdfcs. It's just he's always so greedy.

Yeah like if you look at the decklist the man is literally playing a dimir aquaduct.

Does he just not play ramp or rocks? $10k budget and could have had a Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Bloom Tender, Nature's Lore, Three Visits. I can keep going lol.

That's just richard though

Turns out, ramping and have 5 or more lands than the rest of the table let's you play the game more than others and makes your deck better in comparison. Who could have known? God I hate green.

My 2c Murder still kills your $80 Sheoldred

Honestly same though. I have a couple decks that are just absolute value engines but i have to play them at the beginning of the night or not at all because they are too thinky. But i do love playing them

23:25 23:30 was such a good moment. You could feel Phil's pain

Maybe I just play different from him but he pulled that trigger so early. He went from easily the most developed board to equal footing at the hands of his own spell. Just cause you can doesn't mean you should.

Love the Uncle Istvan pfp

I mean the only reason the deck is $10k is cause it's playing restricted list cards. It doesn't ACTUALLY mean it's better

​​@@MidgarMerc after looking at the list, most of the non creature spells are really good. It's playing multiple tutor's the best best counter magic and a really strong land base.

@@MidgarMerc lets not kid around here, if a deck is 1000% more expensive, its most likely better xD

I feel like a Lot of magic players miss the enters tapped on Victimize Far too often

Also taking three angels instead of one Kembal’s trigger sees all of your opponents at once and also only triggers once No matter how you cut it, hunted angel only gives you one token

​@@nickman217it says "for each of them" so if they all enter at the same time then you get a copy of every one

@@nickman217 No, that's incorrect. Hunted Angel's ability creates the tokens simultaneously, and an untriggered Kambal will 'see' the creation of all three tokens as a single event. Therefore, if Hunted Angel dies on a turn where Kambal has not yet triggered, Kambal's controller will create 3 3/3s [cf. also Alliance of Arms, The War Games, Marching Duodrone, and Plague of Vermin.]

​@@supranova7594 nope, it's just reading the whole card before applying effects. It's simple

you forgot to add the shipping and insurance costs ;p

Bayou: nice

Out of those, only Gaea's Cradle is above average power level 😂

​@wchenful Tabernacle is kind of hilarious with all the tokens though.

​@@wchenfuli see you don't understand what tabernacle does and why alpha duals are so strong

I understand just fine. Let's say you add one alpha underground sea to your deck, a gem mint one is valued at 25k+. So now you have a 25k regular casual deck with one imba land. The vast majority of games, you won't have it in your opening hand - hence it hasn't really increased the power level of your deck significantly. Drawing your alpha duel in later turns (lets say 3+) isn't that relevant since it's main strength is in mana-fixing. And since we already have watery grave and triomes as fetch targets, it's not essential. Tabernacle is a different issue: it's only good when you're playing a prison strategy which obviously Richard isn't since that would be unfun to watch a 10k prison deck. You would also need ways to tutor out the tabernacle early and mana denial. Instead, they're playing a meta where the board gets wrathed t5-7 anyway so tabernacle is largely irrelevant - and post wrath, the upkeep isn't very significant. Now Gaea's Cradle is very different in this context: you can draw it post t5 and it will almost always net you a huge surge of mana - and given the lack of land destruction and the low density of wraths, probably for the rest of the game. Add in some minor untap synergies and mana sinks and that's game.

I can't unhear "blue crap" now. I feel like Chandra after having Liliana say something devious to her, as depicted in the Kaladesh set Diabolic Tutor card. Thanks, 😆! _snickers and walks away_

Yeah, it's starting to become a bit ridiculous at this point. How was he the threat in any way?

It's not logical this game, but they talk a lot about how Phil often plays very strong "pop-off" decks (opposite of Crim--no interaction, all gas). However by their podcast logic, this season they should be ganging up on Mr. "Open The Way" Seth, but I guess he isn't playing green this week?

What are you talking about? Before the Ondu Phil was leagues ahead of everyone else and it's a token value deck that can rebuild faster than stuff like mill. Not to mention he essentially halved the entire rest of the table's life. Game's gotta end eventually, players gotta be knocked out or lose. It's one thing to be nice to someone who was mana screwed all game or had bad draws that put them far behind, it's quite another to just let the person who was winning for the first half of the game sit quietly untouched for a chance to turn it around. I do agree there have been some vibes based team-ups every so often that aren't judging threats at all but honestly, if Phil sat down across from me with one of his actual "I built this for me and I play it" paper decks there would be no mercy.

When one player demonstrates both the ability to present a lethal threat in a single turn AND recover from a board wipe just as quickly, it naturally happens. The problem wasn't that Phil was targeted, it was that Richard never was. Threat assessment has always been a major weakness they all have in their games, but there's also a reason for that. If threats are always properly assessed by every player, the game takes longer to finish.

wHo CaReS

On Monday’s mtggoldfish pod, didn’t they say they’re banning it going forward?

@@Spirited_skiing I know! It's so stupid to play it and even reccur it.

@@ondrejprochazka8486 they said on the podcast that it was recorded last week so one of the banned cards would still show up that coming up episode.

@@RirseDeBlood I’m shocked Richard, who often brings up the entertainment/content side of things couldn’t let go of the chasm

@@ondrejprochazka8486 He literally is though? They're not time travelers; they can't go back before they decided to house ban it and retroactively remove it from recorded content and re-recording it would also mean all the footage, time, and editing would have been wasted for everyone involved. He's also right, if it's not banned you are actively hampering your deck's potential by not playing them. Rarely has he or anyone else in the crew actually *abused* either of those cards they're just so strong they can buy you time to win the game or be a backup win condition. The comments would whine a lot louder if everyone started running Cataclysms and Obliterates to deal with it.

I'm sure they are too after this one

I think that’s why the $10 deck is playing those commanders cause they basically let you play your opponents decks so he can get around the budget restriction/quality

Yeah, if you get it right a pretty low budget deck can do a lot of stuff. Tomer ran a 25$ Gargos Deck in Commander Clash at one point and recked everyone.

$10 Balmor Hotdogs can still steamroll a table.

My most expensive deck I've ever made was only around $90. I genuinely can't fathom how they're managing to build such expensive decks. You'd have to go out of your way to make that happen.

@@dontmisunderstand6041once you play an expensive mana base with fetches and shocks that’s >150$ and then if you play a bunch of rhystics Study’s teferis pro and other staples

Having all instant speed ramp turn out to be fogs in disguise is not ok

No they dont learn it. Every week Richard and Crim target Phil even if he is not a threat, Richard gets no attention at all, plays the same 30 lands and wins. Dont get me wrong I really like this show but it gets repetitive.

Flying under the radar is a good strategy

@@cloudroth6 It is an amazing strategy. The thing is that the other players have not notice it yet.

I'll even let Seth get away with a guild of guin. They used to be so good about running a bit of LD and ever since they stopped Richard wins every game with the same lands.

He's out this season?

It was a deck Tomer did a video on. He just isn't one of the main 4 this season

He did build the deck.

@@MTGGoldfishCommandershould have made it a five player game instead and given tomer a 1$ budget

By the time I had finished I picked up on that he had built it. Thanks for taking time to reply anyway. Love the vids you guys are great

Phil constantly plays "remove this or I win the game" cards with no interaction. At some point it's his fault if he keep getting killed because people are afraid of the value he generates. Also, he had a 1,000$ combo deck and that's the kind of deck that can win at any time with no warning

He really is, and most of his best decks are super budget. Looking at you Gargos.

The thing that gave everyone else angel tokens is a trigger so it would technically not even go onto the stack until Victimize had finished resolving as the sacrifice is part of the resolution of the spell, not an additional cost.

Glad you are enjoying it!

Phil for the first half of the game was in the dominating position. You also have to remember that they taken the fact that Phil's decks are explosive glass cannons so it is a hard deck to just leave alone and let build back up

@cloudroth6 sure, keep it in check attacking occasionally, but the board had developed with bigger threats. All in all an enjoyable game