$1700.00 and I'm still Safe Less 

Which ever safe you wind up buying, make SURE you get one with a MECHANICAL combination lock. As soon as you get it, follow the instructions to change the mechanical combination - you're then as safe as you're ever gonna get. NOTE: A safe is a deterrent - not an absolute impossibility to get into if someone has the time and tools. Most important is to bolt all 4 corners to the concrete floor from inside, hide the safe in a closet with a descent door and lock, then get the closet alarmed. NEVER display a safe so that people can see it. Th e fewer people who know about it and see it, the better off and more secure you will be. While I think your video was spot - on, Safes are not something I'd share and or discuss with the public - just my honest opinion. One last thing Mike...... If you want a better safe (much better than a "gun safe", buy a used Jewelry safe!! They are much heavier, stronger, thicker, have better locking mechanisms, are higher in their fire and burglar ratings and over all just much better safes. They won't have the fancy paint finishes or pin stripping but you will wind up with a much more secure safe!

20 years ago we were robbed. They only took 1 thing, our safe. It was a small safe, weighed a little over 100 lbs. A few days after my wife asked if we were going to get another safe to replace old one and how much bigger would it be so 2 people cant walk off with it. I made a call to ADT and had a alarm system installed. Every door and every window. I told my wife, there, we have a 1500 square foot safe with thousands of places to hide a few items. Yes I know it doesn't protect against fire but no one is going to sneak in on me while I'm sleeping. Have a Jesus filled day everyone Greg in Michigan

I spoke to a locksmith once who said he had been to a lot of homes where fire had occurred, and he had to crack into the gun safe. His comment was that every safe he had opened after a house fire had damaged weapons in it and that none of them kept your guns protected from fire. This made me reconsider buying a safe. Unless you are concerned about someone breaking in and stealing your guns there is no need for one. Even in the case of a break in, I think I'd rather have a hidden closet or some type of secret space in my home for my weapons that is undetectable to a robber than to deal with a company that will sell me out when the heat is put on them. The biggest problem with all of this is that the FBI is totally out of control and has far too much power!

Good morning Mike. I ordered a Liberty Colonial 30 back in April. I still haven’t got it and was told by my dealer it would probably be next year at this point. This news story hit and I decided it was time to get out. My dealer got me into a Pella safe. They are beautiful safes. Family owned and made in Iowa. Best part is I should have it within the next month or two. I ordered a custom size and was able to talk to the owner before I pulled the trigger. I think Liberty screwed up pretty bad and now they are going to pay for it for awhile. It’s unfortunate.

I bought my safe from a government surplus auction. Good old fashioned combination lock, giant heavy thing that took multiple people to move into place. No corporation to provide a back door code.

Dear Mike, when we was on holiday in Crete when we lost the combination to the safe in our hotel room. We phoned down to the reception and a man arrived and opened the safe in less then two seconds. The special tool that he used was a ring pull off of a coke can. I have never had to much faith in these combo safe things after that. The safe I have at home is a Chubb Air measures 14" across by 10" high and 10" deep. The body and the door are both made from 3/8 steel plate. When it is closed and locked there are no gaps anywhere. It has a two sided mortice type key and the lock body inside looks quite impressive. 4 Big Coach bolts 3" by 3/8th hold it down thru the floor boards and into the rafters and 4 of the same hold it to both the back wall and the left wall. I used 2" spread washers under the coach bolt heads to spread the holding effort of the the bolts. Never buy a combo safe, they are just an open door to the wrong set of hands. Sorry this was a long comment, it was kind of shorter when in my head....Have a great day....

Be sure that whatever you get Mike has an analog dial, and you set the combo with the proper tool. That way you and only you have the combination.

A while back I watched a guy open his locked safe with a splitting maul! A locked safe is simply a deterrent by no means absolutely safe. Best wishes.

Liberty safes should have taken some advice from bud light.

I've been told by those in the business that you need only remove the serial number label from the safe lock. The back door codes, which are grouped by serial number ranges, can not be looked up without the serial number. There is no single back door code.

Mike, one of the best safes made right here in America is champion safe the exact same manufacture of superior safe so it’s the same company sort of like your Highline and then may be more reasonable or budget line safe but very well-made and when you buy either safe it comes with a lifetime warranty And I believe you can pass that on to your children ? Don’t quote me on that but when I bought my champion Safe, which was the top of the line with the most amazing paint job I’ve ever seen like they even put gold flake into the paint if you want to be really exotic ! At any rate, they told me everything is lifetime warranty, including the lock, so what I’m saying if anything ever happens like if God for bid your house burns down you get a brand new safe !! Even though I bought the safe 15 or 20 years ago and paid three or $4000 for it I just looked it up online that exact same safe is over 10-K now !!!! You would be pleased with a champion I’m sure of that !! And what the rep told me about if I ever lost the combination is that since the Safe has a lifetime warranty, they actually send someone out that has champions special computer that hooks into the lock and they get into the safe that way after of course you verify your information they won’t send the “safe cracker”out until you prove who you are and set up an appointment !! And Mike between you and I , with the technology of today I guarantee you, the FBI has one of those fancy little computers that could crack almost any electronic safe, lock of today just by hooking into it !! I like the idea that champion won’t give anyone access over the phone. They have to send a technician out to your residence or business much better. Look them up online champion safe and if you go and look at any of them don’t open one up it’s like driving a new pick up truck once you do you Gotta have it !!!! Lol ! Later my Friend !

Good morning Morgans and friends. Hope everyone has a great day.

Mike, your gut feeling is correct. Don't buy a Liberty Safe.

How ironic of Liberty to give away a customer’s safe code

Hey Mike, funny you mentioned Eva's GMC/Super Duty comparison video. I commented on a recent video of Eva's that she showed a 61 year old man something about his 2020 GMC Sierra that he didn't know. My truck has the same interior as yours and since I'm never in the back seat it didn't occur to me how to lower the rear seat headrest. But thanks to Eva, I now know how to do that. She's doing great with her channel. I enjoying watching her channel as much as I enjoy yours and Melissa's channels. Keep up the good work.

Bless your heart for promoting your daughter's videos. I suspect your audience is completely different than hers and she may have to develop her own following.

Good morning OWTM family. Looks like fall is in the air in Pa. Hugs from N.C..❤

About 10 years ago after a bit on research, I bought a Steelwater safe and have never regretted that decision. They are still in business it seems. Worth checking out in any case.

Good morning Mike, good luck !! Thanks for sharing. Fred

I've seen many reviews from this issue by Liberty Safe on several 2A sites and channels. The constant theme is that Liberty Safe failed to require a secondary warrant for the safe and its content. Like you I am searching for a good safe now.

Greg from northern Michigan. The older technology Sargent & Greenleaf wheel style combination locks (which can be reset from the original factory combo) are the way to go. The newer electronic locks can be opened with the original factory code, a new code sequence you enter in, or the so-called factory reset (backdoor) code. Plus there are electronic black boxes now available which plug into the digital lock pigtail cord which will try all possible lock numbers and will eventually find the right code within 15 minutes. Digital may be convenient but is not very safe.

Mike, Love your channel and your outlook. I have a similar opinion on this and similar issues. Spot on

Mike I don't comment very often but I admire what you do on RU-vid, ignore all the jellocy & keep up the good work

I chose Fort Knox over liberty because they had a much better fire rating at the same price point. Make sure you compare the specs such as wall thickness, rated fire time and temperature, door and frame thickness, etc. When I budgeted for my safe I decided to spend 10% of the value of the expected contents on the safe purchase. Like a one time insurance payment. To be sure the manufacturer does not keep the combination, have a private safe company change out your lock. And finally, avoid electronic locks. Stick with the manual dial type lock. There are machines that can open either type of lock, but the dial type takes way longer. The only true way to keep someone out of your safe is to not let them know you have one or where it is.

Do not get a safe with a digital lock.

After I got my safe I hired a safesmith - not a locksmith - to replace the lock with an EMP lock. The lock is electronic with a manual physical backup. It's still not safe from someone with a grinder but grinding a hole in the side will take some time.

Mike, I discovered RU-vid and your channel during COVID in 2020. Since that time I have watched 99% of your videos. You and I have a lot of the same interest, are close to the same age, and I am on board with probably 95% of everything you say and do. As for your comments on Liberty Safe, I think you're overthinking things a bit. As career law enforcement officer for nearly 30 years, I have spent almost 10 of those in local law enforcement and 20+ on the federal side. Of those 20 years, 14 have been spent partnering on an FBI task force. Everything you read from Liberty Safe's comments makes total sense to me and I do not see anything wrong whatsoever, with the way they have handled this issue. One of the first things worth mentioning is that the burden of proof for a search warrant far surpasses that of a subpoena, so if the FBI provided LS with a search warrant, they certainly would have no problem coming up with a subpoena, but there would be no need. I know the FBI receives a lot criticism these days, and I would say rightfully so when it comes to those in the higher up leadership roles. However, as for the agents on the ground doing the every day investigations, 99.9% of our law abiding citizens have absolutely nothing to worry about. So, if LS is providing assistance to law enforcement, why would you or any other law abiding citizen be concerned? While your comment about the FBI having the technology to open a safe without the assistance of LS may sound legitimate to the everyday person, it truly is not that easy. I can totally see why they would first request assistance from LS, it makes total sense to me. Believe it or not, finding someone within the FBI that has the ability to by-pass a high-end safe is not nearly as easy as one may think. I've been on plenty of search warrants where we are using any tool known to man to try and gain entry into a safe. I have even seen court orders requiring the owner of the safe to provide access to law enforcement; however, that is a step no law enforcement agent wants to deal with. I was not familiar with LS before your video, but the fact that they have the ability to assist entry into safes previously purchased by customers or that they are willing in certain situations to assist law enforcement, in my humble opinion, should not prevent you from buying a safe from this company. I applaud LS for assisting law enforcement and would question those companies who are not willing to do the same. In the end, I agree that none of our personal information, or safe combinations for that matter, is truly safe (no pun intended) in this day and age. Thank you for the work you do and the content you create!

Mike I really like my Old Glory safe. It was more expensive than most of the other safes I looked at but after I got one I can see why. Very well made. After all the Liberty code stuff I was able to confirm that they do not keep a back door code on their safes. If I was getting another safe it would be an Old Glory.

You said Liberty stepped in it, I think that sums it up nicely. Any thought I had of getting a Liberty safe went right out the window.

Good morning from Upstate South Carolina. Rule of thumb as a business owner, don't piss off your customers. Have a productive day.

Good Post Mike..... thanks for the info and a place for comments and suggestions regarding this subject

I bought a large Browning safe after researching everything available on the market at the time. HEAVY duty with impressive deadbolt design and (theoretically) top grade fire protection. More expensive than the big box store safes, but I liked the features, design, and strength very much. Considered Fort Knox at the time, but it was even more expensive for the same size. The Browning ended up be my "Goldilocks" safe, j-u-s-t right! I just saw this morning that a famous manufacturer of electronic locks has a "military grade EMP resistant" lock available. I may check that out, or perhaps even convert from keypad to a manual combination lock. I trust the Lord, not my preps, but try to be wise in planning for the days to come....

Former LEO here if we wanted into a safe we called the locksmith with a warrant and had him open it. Done deal the fact that they wanted a back door number tells me they were on a fishing expedition. They didn’t want to damage anything because they didn’t have anything. Exploited Liberty and their liberal donations. I too have a Liberty and will make sure I’m off the so called back door list but I don’t think it will matter. Locksmith can do whatever you need. By the way I covered up the Liberty name on my safe and going to name it after myself.

The trees have been dropping their leaves here in Louisiana since last month. But that is due to the trees being stressed from more than a month of 100*+ days.

Mike, I had the same reaction to Eva’s review. I am 70 and found it fascinating to see how a 17 year old compared/ contrasted the two vehicles. Certainly not how I would do it but that’s not the point. It gave me a glimpse into how a young adult looks at vehicles and I found it enlightening.

So I keep telling my wife I stop at the BassPro in Morgantown bc we might run into the Morgans. Then I always say Mike would most likely be at the firearms section 😉. Haven’t seen you yet but I have a few new purchases lol.

Good morning everyone

I have heard there is a way to change out the electronic keypads for an old school combination dial. May be worth doing to make sure they don't have the code anymore. I don't trust them to expounge the code.

I bought a Champion Safe. I ordered it new with an S&G lock. It is rock solid and made in the USA. Give them a look. They also own Superior Safe and Safe Guard. They are out of UTAH with dealers nation wide.

American security . Fort Knox. Just buy the one with dial combination not a digital pad. Keep up the content education is key to this subject.

Mike look for a locksmith that do safes. I am pretty sure that you can get the dial lock to replace the digital versions you have now. Just food for thought. Good luck.

I really like the SecureIt Safes (The Answer), not sure if they are any better or made in the USA but I like there design the best. Good luck and keep up the great videos!!

Hi Morgans! Great opening music!! Always enjoy all your content .Thank you !

Thanks For The Heads Up! I know what you mean about someone else holding on to your personal private information it's only as good as they Are! And sometimes that's not saying much!! Keep Smiling On!! 😄👍👊❤️

I agree with you Mike. When I saw that they (Liberty Safe) allowed the FBI to infringe on the guy in question I felt anger and it just added to my frustration about the Government “overstepping” on our freedoms. Bottom line is we no longer can Trust the safe company, the government in general.

Mike, I had the same questions about my safe and took the time to go to a local safe store where I was told the best way is to buy a manual lock safe. Or you can replace the keypad with an aftermarket keypad.

I think you should build one. False wall kind of thing. It works slick. Out of sight, out of mind. Good info, Mike!

Mike - they do not have to voluntarily give the codes to law enforcement. However if they are given a search warrant or subpoena, they must comply. For example - a drug dealer stores 10 kilos of coke in his liberty safe. LEO Gets 1. a warrant for the safe 2. A subpoena/warrant for Liberty’s database to get the code to the safe. Liberty does not have to give the codes just because there is a warrant on the safe. They would, however, be compelled if LEO gets a subpoena for their database.

Locks and safe are a way to keep honest people honest. If someone or some organization wants in... I'm thinking maybe it's best to limit the damage if it is going to happen: honest, legal or otherwise nefarious. I say get the safe but evaluate the risk to know at what level you need it to be impenetrable. Cheers!

We had a neighbor who had collections of very valuable firearms. When he had his home built, he had a room built out of cement with steel door. He had locks on the door that only he and his family were able to open the door. He had a humidifier system to maintain the desired temperature and humidity in the room. That make his collection safe in case that the home should burn.

I have a Hamilton Safe but after this video I will check on the code storage issue. Thanks for the video. God bless you and your family.

Seeing you fuel up reminded me to tell you the cost here in Uzebeckasota. 102 gallons #2 off road. $400. PS I'm glad they caught the escaped con yesterday.

I have a Winchester and I set my own combo for it, there are lots of other options

I’m with you 100%. I think the answer is buy a Lincoln Arc Welder and some sheet metal. Make your own safe, bolt it down in your house…. And use the Cabellas bucks on a couple of nice rifles. Have a great weekend!

The quartering made a video about this a few days ago. He had just bought a Liberty safe and ended up returning it, and bought a Fort Knox safe instead.

Depends on which side of the aisle you sit on Mike.... Even Apple will turn over all info if you're on the right.

This is a non-issue. As you said, if someone wants in, they will get in. Even if they COULD steal the backup combination, they STILL need access to your safe. If they have access to your safe then they can just drill it out (or take it) to gain access. This is a mountain out of a molehill.

Hi Mike, your story reminds me of my telecommunications engineering days, where CALEA was new and it's intrusive to communications from law enforcement to get into your phone systems if legally necessary. The Communications Assistance for law Enforcement Act (CALEA) is a statute enacted by Congress in 1994 to require that telecommunications carriers and manufacturers of telecommunications equipment design their equipment, facilities, and services to ensure that they have the necessary surveillance capabilities to comply with legal requests for information. CALEA is intended to preserve the ability of law enforcement agencies to conduct electronic surveillance while protecting the privacy of information outside the scope of the investigation. In 2005, the Commission extended coverage of CALEA to include facilities-based broadband Internet access providers and providers of interconnected Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) service.

Mike. I understand your initial question/concern. I work in the physical security industry and want to advise that (just for your information) this is indeed a common practice/feature of electronic locks. It definitely varies by manufacturer and the specific model of lock. I think the general public is simply not aware of the features (which the manufacturer most likely documents in their manual) and their sales person should have advised of. I also Understand that the security of the database is a concern, but keep in mind that on top of the database, it’s the randomness of the combo, the randomness of the safe itself and the fact that tracking/tracing it down to be able to put everything together highly increase the overall security of the feature. Drilling a safe, which is about the only way to get into a locked safe, can be very expensive and repairing a drilled safe requires a highly trained locksmith who would have to get the drill point from the manufacturer anyways. The practice of standards on how the company verifies the need and accuracy that a “backdoor” combo is used and appropriate to give out is the ultimate stop gap for how secure an independent safe/lock actually is. Hope this helps to shed some light. Personally i would not be concerned with purchasing from liberty or most other reputable safes.

Stay away from digital combination safes, instead go with a old style mechanical safe and have a trusted independent locksmith change the combination to one of your choice would be my thoughts. Good luck Mike. p.s. we enjoy your videos up here in Sigel Pa.

Try new castle lock and key they have all kinds of safes and they’re 40 minutes from you

I did my own research years ago. I bought an AMSEC safe. MADE IN AMERICA….. most big box store safes were based in the US but made in China. Now with this news I need to research more about companies saving codes. The best thing about video’s like this is it opens conversations that most companies look at to make future policies from other companies mistakes. Bud Light, Target, Disney, Liberty safe, ESPN, Garth Brooks etc,etc,etc. Maybe one of the positives social media offers….. Before it gets shut down…….

May I suggest a nice decorative cigar box and shovel? Use the shovel to dig a four feet deep hole, place the cigar box at the bottom of the hole and replace the dirt. No record, no police, no nonsense. -Curt

Im a software engineer with 13 years experience and you're right, nothing is 100% secure online these days. However, i would say we are more secure than we've ever been. In this scenario, a data breach of backup safe codes isn't necessarily going to be the end of the world. I'm 99% certain that these backed up codes are probably just a serial number of a safe mapped to the code, theres not going to be any safe ownwr information tied to them. So basically, if someone hacks the liberty database and gets all the back door codes, they still need to go find the actual units with absolutely no information to go off of. Of course if they know someone with a liberty safe, theres a possibility they could use it then, but it is very unlikely imo

I own 2 Liberty safes. Upon delivery and before putting anything in them, I changed the combinations and had access codes cleared from factory. I paid a locksmith to do this. He showed me how to change combination. I did the new combination on both safes after he left.

Mike, you were talking in one of your videos about ideas of how to handle your sawdust off the mill. Have you considered finding a repurposed blower and using a flex hose on the dust chute and blowing all your sawdust to a pile outside, or even better building a covered bin and blow it into it. Then your could handle the sawdust with your tractor or skid steer. Just an idea.

I don't have a liberty safe, I own a different brand. After what happened with liberty, I purchased and installed a mechanical lock with a knob and combination and got rid of the electronic push button combination and locking device.

Eva's truck review was fun to watch....she's got a future there.

I think I`ll stick with my old 1940`s mechanical safe. Not many old safecrackers around anymore.

Mike, I would be on the phone with Concrete with the Hauses.......you have digging equipment.......and they have concrete......from the basement level in ur home.....cut a doorway outward.......pour 3-4 foot floor, walls and ceiling with mesh, re-rod and I beam.....get 2 sets of doors (stacked) 1 in front of the other......put a full size dehumidifier with a 1" drain.......u can do 2 of these......the 2nd behind your outbuilding....either ground level or step down into it under ground......the doors you would need are out there on utube......Semper-Fi, Mike!!! 👍😎🇺🇸😇

Morning Mike , iv'e had a safe that i got from Cabelas 30 ish years ago , it's a anniversary outfitters , big , nice paint and just short of 1000 lbs empty , i had it delivered to a friend with a safe and lock business and they delivered it to the house , it's all mechanical dial combo with a key in the dial , when he delivered it , he informed me then that key codes and combinations were kept on file by the serial number of the safe , and the owners name . He then informed me he could change the key and the combination which i did a few weeks later ... go ahead and get one but i would get an all mechanical one ... find a lock and safe smith you trust !

I have a AMERICAN SECURITY safe with a good fire rating and am very pleased!

Rhino metals makes a great safe. They don't put a lot of money into exterior embellishment, but they have a lot of steel in them, not just in the door. I don't know their policy about maintaining codes though.

The only way to secure valuables is a safe room with sufficient reinforced concrete all around, top and bottom. Had the pleasure of visiting Roland Martin's home many years ago which was outfitted with such a room. And for him, size mattered!!😊

Mike, have you ever tried out a flail mower? Maybe you could demo one on your channel.

They had a warrant to search the mans home. In that home was a safe, so the authorties could legally search it. However without the code they could not access it. They told Liberty we have a warrant, can you give us the code. Liberty said sure. They were not legally compelled to provide that information but did so of their own will. A subpoena would be required to force them to give up the code. A warrant allows authorities to enter and search a defined area. A subpoena forces a third party to testify or provide information deemed critical to an important investigation.

We had a locksmith change the combinations on both safes to the same combination. They can be changed

Great info Mike. I think it's time to build a safe, hidden place to put whatever Safe you buy. I've seen secret hiding places with magnets used in the exact locations to open things. Maybe a vault built for multipurpose uses to secure your Safes, personal belongings and yourself if needed. I'm saving my points too from Bass Pro.

I bought a safe in the middle 90's, (Liberty) It has a key and a combination, no electronics. I am so glad it does not.

Just because they remove your code from their database, doesn't mean it's gone. Their server backups could be retained for years.

Mike, ALL manufactures save the codes. Just buy a safe with a mechanical lock and just change the combination YOURSELF. You can change the electronic locks to mechanical and then change the combination. Trust no one Mike! Except your wife!!

So many topics here that interest me but I hate typing. Goals are good. My Cabella's goal is a Volquartzen 22lr , $1300 plus and I am very close. I noticed recently that some of the one day 10% discounts work for pewpews. I started shopping for my first safe in the late 80's. There were usually several safe dealers/ manufacturers at the big "sportsman shows". Many of them had a scrapbook of theft nightmares. A popular method at the time was to go in thru a window, wrap a chain around the safe and drag it thru the wall with a big truck/wrecker. They also said a fire safe was only good if you live next door to the fire station. So, I consider a safe a deterrent but have a couple anyway.

I have a Champion Safe I got from a local locksmith company. I’ve had it probably 25 years. It has the old school dial and the locksmith set the combination I chose. Love it and would and should buy another.

I wonder if you opt out, will they give you the "backdoor" code, so you can put that number in a safe deposit box in a bank for back up?

Safes just keep HONEST people out !!

its fairly easy to have a locksmith change an analog combination to something you choose and can easily remember. I watched while my locksmith changed the combination and it took less 15 minutes to change.

Buy the liberty. Get a model with the mechanical lock set. Immediately change the combo and only share it with trusted family or friend.

Eva is a natural and will do well making videos.

Good Thursday Morning Morgan family! Finally starting to cool down in SE PA. Have a day! I stopped using my cabelas card a few years ago. I honestly wasn’t impressed after the bass pro merger. I now use my amazon, capital one and Amex for various reasons. 5% cash back is the best I have seen.

I wish I had a good answer. If you find something helpful please share it on one of your upcoming videos. Good morning and thank you for sharing.

Im no lawyer, but I always assumed if a search warrant was issued on a property, and during the execution of the search warrant, a safe was encountered and they wanted access to search the safe, do they have to go back to the Judge and get an additional warrant to cover the search of the safe ? Once the warrant to search the safe is granted, they can and will access it by law.

I bet you a locksmith could open the safe!

I wish people would take just one minute and think about the sacrifice you and Melissa have made for your family. I hope all the best for you and your family and may God bless.

I run a similar tractor to yours, and a fair amount of brush cutting for hire. Usually 10 acre tracks. Just wondering if you have any experience with a flail mower. They seem to cut much sorter, and you can offset the mower for fence lines and ditches. And take up less room on my trailer to free up space for other attachments.

Hello Mike, I purchased an American Security Safe from Grice gun shop in PA. I went with a mechanical combination lock. You can also lock the dial with a key. Shortley after I purchased it, I had a local locksmith change the combination. I do not know if mechanical locks have back door combination.

95 views in three minutes 😮

What a stupid decision! Completely wrecked the company in one move.

I was a locksmith for over thirty years. All safe companies have a code/combination. I noticed sometimes their master combination opens more than one safe. I don’t know if they do it by model and year. I can only speak for the ones I had to work on. The best one is a dial combination with a key. Once you change it. No other numbers will open it. Just my personal opinion. Have a great day

Good morning bub 😊

My preteen niece was getting punished and my bnl took her electronic devices and locked them in the safe , just for a couple of days. Well after the time was up he was going to get her stuff and it was gone so he asked my sister if she had taken her stuff out and she said no! Then they found them , while he was asleep she snuck his phone and googled how to bypass the combination and opened the safe! She is 16 now !!!