$18000 for a Coding Bootcamp to FINALLY land a job after 6 MONTHS! 

What are your thoughts on coding bootcamps? Let me know in the comments!

I'm a self-taught developer. It took me 319 job applications, to get 4 interviews and 1 offer. From the moment I started to study until I get my job, it took me 18 months and probably I didn't spend more than 2 grand between my laptop and udemy courses. I'm glad I followed this route!

I took a bootcamp because being self taught wasn't working out for me unfortunately... What the bootcamp really help me do is see the bigger picture in terms of what I was learning. It gave me the structure and direction I needed to learn what I needed to become a software developer. Thats just my experience though, if you're disciplined enough to be self taught then by all means go in that direction.

10% of jobs that she applied too gave her an interview. That's not bad.

I got a 4 year degree in CS and landed a six-figure salary in an average cost of living metropolitan area 7 months before graduation. Although school gave me a well rounded education, when it came to the job hunt, personal projects outside of school are what will land you a job. Even traditional CS students are naive to believe that a degree will automatically land them a job. I know people who go into these bootcamps without ever having expressed an interest in coding, thinking they’ll land a 6-figure salary after completing the program. No matter which route you take, - university, boot camp or self-taught - if you don’t have an interest in coding or a strong drive, you won’t make it. Also, lower your salary expectations, and if you don’t, then work hard and avoid anything trying to pay you under $60K.

I took a 5 month bootcamp, working my ass off 12+ hours per day. After ending it I kept on studying that way, applying for at least 10 companies each day. I got a job after a month and a half. EDIT: I'm now getting job offers basically every day. Oh, I got trained on how to sell myself and I have over 10 years of experience in communication, I think that was what helped me the most, more than knowing how to code or having a nice portfolio.

She had 40 interviews in those 6 months though so it wasn't the fault of the bootcamp. You still have to pass the interviews so in this case it was probably her

I’ve chosen the Bootcamp route not because of the pipe dreams . I know from experience in my current field you have to grind to get a job. I choose Bootcamp because I need to structure. I tried the self taught route and I just didn’t have the drive/discipline to be consistent in my learning.

Great video - I believe that coding is inherently self-taught. It is an advanced skill that requires active ingestion of new concepts and focused practice on a routine basis. Bootcamps can be perhaps a valuable intro to the concepts of coding, but it is going to require focused outside effort from the student to achieve even basic competency.

They're great if you need that kind of learning structure. I needed the structure, social accountability, and something external to drive me to study after a long day of work. I wasn't the first to get a job, but got 2 job offers 2 months later. They definitely don't guarantee a job, and it was especially hard to get a job during covid due to hiring freezes.

I need to add here that familiarity is a big part of the process. Boot camp gave me both the familiarity with fundamental software concepts, and some fantastic career support. While I think that I could have gotten here eventually on my own, it certainly accelerated the process. I have a job now, and it took about 6 months from the start of boot camp. I think going for the cheapest one that has structure would probably be a nice compromise for a lot of people. Also on the job search front, between me and my colleagues, anywhere from 200 to 500 applications was very normal; some students were doing 10-20 applications a day, and a lot of us got jobs pretty fast. So the 2 applications per day would be pretty slow in the whole scheme of things.

I just graduated from General Assembly last month and they were pretty transparent about the hunt. It was gonna be rough, but you get out of it what you put into it. People who expect to receive a golden ticket of some sort are only kidding themselves. I do think they're overpriced, but the structure and teaching was still really great. Personally, I'd definitely do it again if I had the choice, but I think the people who spend 6+ months searching aren't being proactive applicants who are networking and adjusting their resumes and building their portfolios after graduating. If you're applying to every job with the same resume, a github link with 0 contributions since graduation, and a portfolio with semi-refined work?? Probably not gonna get that job. Idk. Just seems like the popular thing to do is hate on bootcamps when I do feel like they contribute a lot to getting people involved in coding. Overpriced? Sure, but so is college. Some people just need the structure, and if they're okay with paying the price for it, then I don't see why it's such an issue.

I think finding a mentor and going the self-taught route is perfectly fine. Unless the price isn't an issue for you. That price might give people the motivation they need to push themselves. I also wouldn't jump into a bootcamp without at least knowing the fundamentals of programming.

Boot camps definitely can land you a job. Just don’t go in expecting to work at a FAANG unless you really have some exceptional stuff on your portfolio.

I went to bootcamp and it was great experience. In my country it is quite affordable 3.5 half months full time study for aproximately equivalent 3 months salary. It took me three months to land first job, because most employers wasnt exited to hire 30 years old junior. But I make it through and now recruiters and companies comes to me and asking for my services :-).

Coding in a whole is self taught requires extreme discipline not to get distracted takes endless amounts of time and patience. People will troll because they don't like the harsh truth and reality.

Finishing up my MS in Software Engineering. As any software engineer knows, school/courses are not enough. The reason I rocketed up the ladder after my BS in Software Engineering was because of my display of side projects. Almost every single one of my offers noted one of two things. Independence to construct and follow through with ideas and implementation. OR... Elicitation of requirements and client-facing manner reflects good translation of from low level concepts to easy to understand pieces. As an example, Amazon (whom I do not work for) reached out to me during one of my "exploring my options" phases, because they saw one of my side projects I had done and were impressed with it. More side projects, especially in different languages/frameworks, shows your ability to adapt and learn quickly. That's probably the advice I give everyone getting into software... And if you're not passionate about software... This isn't the field for you. It's not a quick buck or an easy out. There's a good reason the software industry has an insanely high burnout rate.

I went to a bootcamp for 6 months called App Academy and just like college you have to be proactive during and after. Took me a month after to land a 90k start up job which I had for a couple months which landed me at where I'm currently making almost 200k. I probably applied to 500 jobs and had only a couple respond. I plan on making twice that much in 2 years so for me a bootcamp help get the ball rolling but there are people in that bootcamp that didn't really amount to anything so it's definitely up to the individual.

yeah I've been very critical of bootcamps because they never give you the car fax of those "prodigy" students.

This video both give me hope and a sense of greater fear and jeopardy for having it worse. I'm on my 3rd year in university doing CS. And not performing nearly as much in standards. I've already given up A LOT of good chunk of time trying to learn like crazy, from day to night doing mathematics and code every other minute. It made me frail and insane almost despising being human and such. Now I have serious tons of catching up.

I can relate to this video, because it took me 4 months after completing my 17K boot camp to get hired, and the pay wasn't good either. What's funny is that a lot of my cohorts ended up not getting a job in IT when I checked up on them a year later.

What the "wow took her 6 months!" Doesn't factor in is the bootcamp was only 3 months. She got a job in 9 months!!! College grads have to wait 4 years and spend much more money. One commenter wrote it took him 18 months being self taught which means he lost more money in potential wages than the cost of the bootcamp. This isn't the anti-bootcamp stance you think it is lol

Honestly, jobs are all about who you know. I’ve yet to fill out an application for a job I’ve held. To get my first job a couple years ago, I applied to 25 places a week, but did start before I graduated college. Bootcamps are cool, but I think using free websites are just as good

Yeah this is so true. My coding bootcamp advertised I could get a job in 3 months when in reality it took a year for me to get hired finally at a 60k contract position. During that 1 year span I still had to work part-time at my other job, study Algorithms and data structures, build side projects, and volunteer my programming services to gain software development experience. 😅

It took me almost a year, and I am still happy about the decision because it was an alternative, and at that the best learning experience i had ever. It’s not just about a job. 6 months is not the worst - there are people not getting one and giving up.

I appreciate this video. And it's crazy cause I just started app Academy's free self taught boot camp. I was pretty worried about dropping 20k on their normal program which led me to just try and self teach. So far so good. And can't beat free.

I am currently attending a boot camp for software engineering, and very early on I realized that these boot camps will teach you the bare minimum to get in the door at an entry level position. Everything else definitely has to be self taught. I’m not complaining about the boot camp at all, but I am aware of the limitations and try to make up for it by studying/research after I do my coursework. I am actually very happy with the experience, and I’m glad I decided to take on this journey because I definitely do not have the discipline to teach myself any of these concepts.

I'll make one correction. I'm a bootcamp grad from General Assembly as of 3 days after you posted this video. I just wanted to address the ISA terms, because I'm also bound to an ISA with them. It's a 4 year, not 8 year agreement, and they charge an additional 50% tuition as interest across the 4 years. You're in deferment for the first 6 months post graduation, and after that, you have to provide income documentation. If you're above 40k a year, you'll be obligated to pay 10% of your income per month until you've either paid the 23,000 dollars or 48 months, whichever comes first. That's all the negative stuff. But the upside is, if you're unemployed, or you take a job in your old industry that doesn't break that 40k mark, you remain in deferment. If you remain in deferment for 54 months (the 6 month post grad + the 48 month agreement) then your debt is forgiven entirely. Obviously not having a job in software for almost 5 years post graduation after putting in all that time and effort to learn a new trade would suck, but at least you won't owe them any money.

It depends on the person and the luck. My friend graduated with a chemistry degree in UMD and then went to an Android bootcamp, then landed a 90k for his first job, and 130k in his second. He doesn't have a CS degree. He is a rare case though. A lot of effort and luck

The same thing has been happening for years in the trucking industry. Schools giving someone a few weeks of “training” but you have to spend years paying them back $$$. A lot of evil people out there willing to take advantage of the naive.

Bootcamp was 12k. Applied to 50 places, 3 interviews and 1 offer. Making 50k doing Shopify sites at an agency.

Yup it’s no longer what it used to be. There’s more saturation and competition now than before. Either way-self taught or not, it just depends on how good you are and who’s interviewing you

I will say I got lucky graduating from my bootcamp and had offers within 60 days. I was self taught before I joined so i already had a good foundation but I think it would have taken me probably another 6 months to get to where I was after graduating and recruiters did really seem to like having my bootcamp on my linkedin.

I have a cs degree out of ucla and I go through several hundreds of rejections, not to mention several hundred others ghosting me. most of those interviews took all day, from white-boarding, to being asked questions by 2 or 3 managers & tech leads. Many people think its easy, its not and I have a cs degree.

I went to AA, have been rejected 751 times. I’m on the final round for an interview now with this new job, so hopefully that works. But 300 rejections are rookie numbers LOL. Good for her though!

I always thought that both college and coding bootcamps are a total rip off. Lots of people have this mindset that spending lots of money on education somehow is like buying a golden ticket and a red carpet will roll out for you. It really all comes down to you being absolutely 100% into what you're doing and doing outstanding work over a long period of time to perfect and master your craft. Nobody is going to do it for you.

I'll stick with RU-vid videos and teaching myself. The going is slow and sometimes frustrating, but I don't have that type of money to toss to some "school". If I end up getting a Web Dev job, great, if I don't at least I learned a new skill.

I attended a $10,000 bootcamp (which is on the low end for bootcamp tuitions) and am not sure if I would have done it if it cost much more than that. My bootcamp was pretty up front through the whole process that the bootcamp was not the golden ticket to land a job and was pretty realistic about the job application process. All told, the $10,000 to have the structure, the resources, and the skills learned from the collaborative environment that you can’t get when being self-taught was worth it. I was offered a job 3 months after graduating. Landing a job is largely about making connections outside of just submitting the application, but there is a little bit of luck involved with that as well. Spending money on a bootcamp is going to depend on the person. If someone is considering a bootcamp, I recommend going through a bootcamp offered through a university since those are often cheaper.

This is the best bootcamp reality check video.

I think 6 months is good now that I look back. 😅 she went to the top bootcamp so she's definitely pretty smart. I thought it'd take me 1 month when I first started. So naive 🤦🏾‍♀️ Those bootcamps that make you pay years after are wicked. It used to be 1 year, then 2 years and now some are 8 years?! I did self taught but it was brutal. I would have preferred to do a bootcamp because self teaching was lonely and discouraging.

Great video! I think you’re really onto an important problem. Not Only do they charge that much because there are no pricing estimates on what they’re really worth. Some of them also don’t even have screening processes of candidates, so it’s pretty much all about who can pay a lot. And many of the graduates also end up as assisting teachers which is not exactly What they had in mind I think during the pandemic This has become an even bigger problem when the demand for tech jobs is just rocketting skyhigh

I feel like I also know everything you said about boot camps, finding a job, starting salaries, and having to work hard outside of the program itself in the last three days of research I’ve done, but I find it all incredibly positive to be able to change one’s life circumstance through hard work and what amounts to a bargain when comparing the comparable cost of attending a college to get a degree for a similar end result. Self study is also a great option, but without direction can take even longer.

I’ve been doing this for a year… constantly applying and nothing. But I won’t give up. Keep grinding y’all

Man! You have got to be one of the realest RU-vidrs I have ever watched. I think everyone that is starting out in learning to code should tune into your content so we can easily identify the trickery these boot camps and bs YTbers are selling. Thank you bro!

I wanna thank you for your honesty man. I enjoy your videos and they're really helping me. We half similar backgrounds and your a real encouragement thanks for taking the time to make these videos.

Thanks for saying this. I went to a boot camp and was one of those lucky few who landed the pipe dream after just 10 applications. I was irritated with the boot camp already at that point, feeling I could have self taught, because that’s what I did: All of the content was online, available on GitHub. The reason I landed the pipe dream job was because I: 1. Had an existing network and existing professional work experience, 2. studied extensively beyond the scope of our program and continued to do so following graduation, and 3. Was on that leetcode grind the entire bootcamp because my own personal network had stressed the importance of DSA practice to me before I even started. That isn’t the experience of nearly 75% of the people in my cohort. I should have listened to advice that I could self teach but fell for the networking bs. Instead, the bootcamp’s “networking” was setting students up with companies like Revature. 🙃 I denied the bootcamp to be able to use my name in promotional materials- I am not their average student and I have no intention of being used to sell a lie. If you really want to do this, I promise you don’t need to pay 15k+ for a bootcamp. If you need career help, pay a career coach for some sessions and get a professional resume review. Do a practice technical interview on skilled inc. All of that would cost you less than 1k and give the same results!

I joined a boot camp and got in for free by applying through a scholarship and , trust me it’s basically teaching yourself but because your pair programming and working in a team your forced into being accountable for your education

I went through Lambda School in 2018-2019. It was a 24 month ISA at the time which imo isn't that bad. The school was great for 2/3s of the course, but after the lack of communication was really nerve racking. I didn't apply to jobs every day so most of the blame is on myself for sure but they really didn't help much at all in that department. I did end up getting lucky after a year of job searching with the connections I made in Lambda School however and landed a remote job making decent money like you were mentioning. I couldn't be happier with where I am now, but if I wasn't so lucky I might recommend getting a traditional degree or doing self taught. I am currently helping my friends out because I already went through this process and I know how hard it can be.

2 years ago someone I know quit their day job and went on a 3-month boot camp. I don't know what worked in her case but employers were knocking on her door, within a month she had several job offers

Allow me to shared my journey in tech (only about 17 months in or so): I was a barber at 14 self taught always had an eye for beauty and design. After I turned 20 I decided to get my license fast forward I'm charging 65$ just to fade you. Boom covid hit no more job for me. So the stimmy checks come in (yeah I got some cool shit) but I used it mainly to get through the pandemic and buy a pc to learn to code/game on. So I sign up for a university of Washington hosted web dev camp (trilogy). Here's how that went: you pay 12k to go then they start you with the basics html then css then some JS now there's one teacher about 40-50 students and 3 TA. The TA were fresh graddys who couldnt land jobs (not a inspiring start) so obviously they didn't know shit. The teacher was good but spread way too thin for the class. Now there were three types of people in the camp the ones who practiced beyond the assignments and work and those who didn't and ppl like me who did the work and studied PC's and comp si on my own to understand more than just making a pretty site. So after the 3 weeks 1 per tool set (html,css....) We move on from the holy 3 as I call them and this is where I got pissed. They start teaching us some old ass tech like handlebars and mustache like shit NO one uses now. Then we get a week of SQL a week of mongo more js then jQuery. Mean while we get homework on these each week. As any coder knows when you're green a week isn't shit when learning code. Finally we get last 2 weeks for react. No one got a job I was the first one and that because I changed to cloud and studied like 8 hours a day for 4 months to land a it engineer role in Azure. The boot camps DO NOT GET YOU JOB READY. If you're into web then please learn a stack Mean Mern Farm All of these are In demand and will land you jobs. Build 4-5 working projects figure out jwt and auth. On free code camp theres a 19 hour build a full functioning API with a DB in postgres and deploy to a docker image FOR FREE fucking unreal. My lesson here is the camps do nothing but teach you to teach yourself just do it on your own.

I've been working in IT for the past 9 years. In 2019 I applied over 300+ jobs and only got 2 job interviews and 0 offers.

went through a 9k boot camp 5 years ago, got into my current full time position. Now I'm a few k short of six figures and love the work.

I am a self-taught programmer and technician. It took me 18 months to get my first job. There is no such thing as an easy way into the tech field. Everything worth doing is going to require some blood, sweat and tears--and maybe even a bit of self reflection. No, you cannot get a six figure job after a 13 week boot camp. The most reliable pathway to the six figure club is hard work, networking and pounding the pavement--the old fashioned way.

I took a couple years out of school & decided to go back to school for Software engineering, instead of coming out of pocket for a coding bootcamp. I went back to school & my job which pays for my certificate & tuition. I have, no out of picket expenses. It takes up to 10 months for a freshman. I had this plan mapped out to save money because bootcamps are expensive & I refused to take out a loan. So check your colleges & surrounding areas. You may even be eligible to get a IT certificate through a state funded program if you get government assistance. Even financial aid will cover a certificate if your college has the certificate built into your degree, which most of the time they do. Not that you have to get a degree but I really want mine so there u go. I wanted to educate people on this bcus I haven’t seen anybody talking about this avenue!

I attended Georgia techs bootcamp and I can 100% say there are free online code camps that are just as good if not better

Bootcamps are a good route if you have the money or okay with going into debt and if you learn better with others in a structured environment. I like learning at my own pace and had so much debt from school loans that I didn't want to get into more debt from a boot camp. If you're able to get a job after a bootcamp, even 6 months after completing a bootcamp, $18k is a good investment for a career path that will bring in 6 figures. But this is a big risk for people who can't afford to be out of work for over 8 months at the least. If you are going into a boot camp, be aware of the risks. Make sure the curriculum is good, you are okay with long hours of stressful learning, and possibly be unemployed and looking for a job for many months.

I’ve been taking colt steeles udemy web developer course. Self teaching myself and coding along. Now going into the back end making requests, working within the terminal. I hope that I will be comfortable with making a portfolio with all that syntax I’ve learned and get my first job

I'm a bootcamp grad. In the past 6 months I've sent nearly 300 apps out and have gotten 5 interviews so far. They all compliment my work but ultimately say they're looking for someone with more work experience.

I'm currently attending a bootcamp. I have no expectation at all that it will be enough on its own to get me a job.

I saw this same post and wondered why this happened. I know a bunch of people who have done bootcamps and no one I know took longer than 3 months to find their first job. My personal job search after bootcamp (Springboard) was 3 and a half weeks. A number of others in my cohort had jobs before they finished the program. I applied only in the evenings (was working full time) so I am not sure how someone spending 8 hours a day applying and getting 40 interviews would only end up with 2 offers. Maybe she wasn't quite ready for her technical interviews or something. My bootcamp was remote, cost me $7000, and offers a money back guarantee if you don't get a 50k+ job within 6 months.

Thanks for making this video. I almost started the bootcamp.

Thank you for this! I think it's great that you think that the self-taught route is best. I was a teacher for plus years, and I'm currently in a software development boot camp that is really good. It's 8 and 1/2 months,with Woz-U The reason I love a boot camp, or at least one that is going to be helpful, is because in order to learn a new skill, most of us need guidance, the structure, people to ask questions to and bounce issues off of. If I had been left to my own devices, I would have quit months ago, when it got difficult. But being able to have tutors and support has been instrumental for me personally. Most people when learning a new skill, need these things in place to overcome their own Self Doubt, and to help them learn.

I have been teaching myself for two years coding while working 60 hours a week . I applied for 800 jobs for 3 months straight I had 60 rejection and one offer.

Many people who go to study in these bootcamps, do not obtain any results and they can enter in debt because they believe that they are going to get a job and that they are actually making an investment. One does not hear of these cases because the bootcamp companies intimidate them and force them to sign confidentiality agreements where they cannot talk about what happened. I would like you to speak a little more about this.

I subscribed for simply keeping it real! Thanks a bunch. At the end of the day, tech companies want to see your work! Sure, a certificate or a degree is nice but that isn’t the meat of your skill set.

My brother got a bachelor's in aerospace engineering from Penn State and thought himself how to code and got a job coding without any prior experience in New Jersey right away. He was 21 at the time and fresh out of college.

I attended App Academy and the CEO told us TO OUR FACES that the certificate we were going to get from graduating the boot camp was useless and that if we don't actually learn and put the work in we're making a huge mistake. I think it woke some people up, ha.

I think there’s a lot to be said still when $18k is merely a fraction of what a formal CS college education costs these days. Yeah of course nothing is better than free or self-taught, but there is still some merit for a fraction of what college costs if it still eventually means you can work in the field.

Just 357 rejections? I got rejected 548 times with 7 interview. I did a bootcamp and after bootcamp I started to search for a entry level job as a developer and finally got a job(im working as a frontend developer) after 548 rejections.

I'm a four year college graduate from the year 2000 with a bachelor of science in computer science. Ive held a couple of development positions over the past 22 years but most of my experience has been in QA. I want to switch back to development and been grinding 3-4 hours a day after work for the past 7 months. I considered doing a bootcamp to further enhance my knowledge. But I don't know if it's going to teach stuff I already know and will be a waste of money. My goal is to be faster in my problem solving.

I am a self taught FE that studied for 8 months before jumping into the job market. Recruiters were breaking down my door when I posted my resume to get my first job. 2 weeks, 4 interviews, 2 offers. One was from a fortune 500. Go pick up a real contract or two and build a few sites with a modern framework. Say you did it for your own company, and put literally everything you did for those projects on your resume. It's all about how you structure your resume. Don't post the wrong resume. Recruiters take snapshots and drop them into a searchable database, then rarely update.

Everyone learns differently. I feel that coding can’t be taught through lectures but its a learned skill through practice. I personally gave up coding at 14 and I’m 36 now, reteaching myself. I guess everyone learns differently. Plus the old saying goes, “if its too good to be true, odds are its too good to be true.”

I’m going self taught to save money and it’s more flexible for me. Full time job, 2 month old, and a slight fishing addiction take up a lot of time. I’m nervous about the job search…

Spent a year and a half without finding a job after boot camp only to get a job in IT as soon as I changed my resume and focused on IT. My starting pay is significantly more than my colleagues that has a software engineer job.

Bootcamps was 2011. Its 2021, even CS grads can't get jobs. As a SWE, she should have automated it: 300 applications is rookie numbers.

I will start my Bootcamp in two days. After learning front end by myself, building a portfolio and projects I still did not get a job after over a year of applying. I got a lot of interviews but that's where it always ended. I already lost all my motivation. I know I have maybe to learn more and build better projects. Learn more backend, but since my motivation is lost I decided to join a bootcamp. Also I will switch from Front end to python:)

$18k for a bootcamp is still better than $40k for undergraduate degree. Even worse with $80k debt for a Master's degree. All 3 educational programs still leave a graduate with an average of 6 months to find a job. What is left out in the selling pitch is that tech companies have hiring seasons. Most between January to March.

I also think that most boot camp grads who are able to find a job easily also have some sort of degree. I haven't seen many talk about getting an entry level job with just a certificate. I'm really thinking of attending a boot camp and I'm really grateful for this video 🙏. Kudos

I had a friend who decided to do boot camp after struggling what to do with his career. I grabbed a collage degree…and from what I saw.. boot camps are only for people who are truly interested in learning IT and want it as a career. If you think it’s a quick career change to get a job quickly, it’s going to be a waste of money for you

I payed like 10$ for a bootcamp on udemy, I know its not the same thing a being physically there, but for the price of 10$ it was probably the best investment i ever made and i think it was even better than a real one because it tought me how to teach myself. When I got stuck I didn't have anyone to ask so it forced me to learn how find things on my own. This is one of the best skills a programmer could have, self learning.

I attended a Bootcamp after military and would do so again - and I had to pay out of pocket for it bc GI Bill wouldn't cover it, although, that has changed since. It took me a few months to get a job (in 2015) partly because I moved to a new city after graduating, but it was worth it. I love my career. What we don't know about the example in this video is how well the resume was written, how the person came across in interviews, what time of year they graduated...sometimes companies don't always hire all year long. The job market changes and its hard to quantify what personal attributes go into getting a job vs not. Every criticism here could also be said about going to college. $18K is cheap compared to getting a state college degree.

I'm doing a 31-week program with Merit America. I only pay them 8k if I get a 50k job six months after graduation. I have technical coaches and a career coach that does resume and portfolio building, mock interviews, recruiter meetings, etc. It's been challenging. I think for a Bootcamp style of learning, it's worth it. If I fail out, or can't find a job, I don't owe them a penny.

I'm so happy that I discovered your channel, new subie. I've worked as an app developer for many years but was considering a bootcamp as a way to update my skills with current technology. What would you suggest or recommend as a way to do this other than completing a bootcamp?

I had 2 offers after bootcamp. My 2 cents... A 4 year degree def isnt necessary ( I had lots of cs grads in my bootcamp), but plays a role as some companies only hire folks with degrees. Self-taught is possible but you lose out on time, valuable info, experience, pair coding(IMPORTANT), team work(IMPORTANT), agile methodologies (IMPORTANT) and networking. Why I chose my bootcamp? Curriculum was great. Career prep was great. Meeting contacts at top companies was priceless. And match-making (students interview with companies) was awesome! If you want a career in tech you will ALWAYS be self teaching. So don't hang your glory on being self taught and saving 15k initially. Pick a really good bootcamp and work your butt off.

I failed a coding bootcamp... dropped university courses...just landed a job this Monday. It's about how you communicate and represent yourself on your resume and in phone/in person interviews. Just make a good resume, put it on indeed and hit apply now for easy applications.

2:45: well it's going to be what you put into it too. Assuming that money is going to buy you a skill is nonsense. Too many variable here like did she grind day in and dya out trying to improve. Simply attending a bootcamp doesn't mean anything or even graduating from one. We all have different starting abilities and different drive. A self-taught programmer who grinds and has passion for the process...let me just say that 40 interviews and getting 2 offers means she was probably failing coding challenges at the interviews which is ok but also not the responsibility of the bootcamp.

Even with an engineering degree it’s still a struggle …

Do you still agree with your previous opinion that Free Code Camp and The Odin Project still holds up for self taught students?

Great info, just subbed!

Wait why wouldn't you think it takes 6 months to get a job? They show u that it takes 6 months to get a job for 85% of people who graduated. They're pretty transparent about it

Now I know, I also paid the same, but I knew from the beginning that it will be impossible to get a job with only one month of everything (maybe I wanted to learn more), imagine getting a job with just 1 month of javascript, 1 month react, node , mongo, express jaja and call yourself a full stack dev :D

A friend of mine did HackReactor and got a job with 2 months of finishing it. Some people are lucky, some get shafted. Because he got a job, I damn near pulled the trigger, then I did my research and realized it's basically equivalent to being self taught, the only difference is you have a mentor from the bootcamp

I kind of agree with this video, but my experience was different. I did the bootcamp in one day and got a job the day after. A total of two days to go from unemployed to making $180k + bonus at Facebook.

I went to a $12000 boot camp in 2019. I would of been better off doing a free training online now I’m in debt and not a software engineer.

I am looking at a coding bootcamp through MIT. Its about 7K 32 weeks, 15-20 hours of work a week if anyone here has any experience with it, I would like to hear your thoughts!

I went to WGU because it was affordable & I got a degree in the end. I graduated in about a yr, & don’t regret it.

Was looking at bootcamps and decided to go self taught route. dodged a bullet!

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, EVERYONE IS SELF-TAUGHT!!! Lol. Going to college doesn’t guarantee you dev skills. You still have to go home and put in the work. Depending on the college you have to do more at home studying and projects than a “self-taught” developer. You have to be self-taught regardless. Your college professor don’t do the work for you.

OMG. Thanks for this video, I was about to sign an ISA with a bootcamp.

Hey people if you need a bootcamp come to Europe, they cost between 6 - 10K, much cheaper than in the US. Cost of living depends on the area and lifestyle but Berlin is doable :)