Regarding light fastness, I've done a little research and the reds and purples in both the Holbein and Himi aren't light fast. The rest of the paints are reasonably light fast in both sets. Holbein Violet actually uses a fluorescent pigment which is completely fugitive. Holbein also uses Napthol pigments, which are fugitive. People tend to assume, because they call themselves "artist gouache" rather than "designer gouache" that they are better in that respect, but you can't assume light fastness with gouache. Daniel Smith is bringing out a gouache selection this fall that uses light fast pigments even in their reds. It'll be interesting. Good review.
There are a lot of lightfast colors in the holbein range, but you need to check which pigments are used. You can learn more about pigments through artiscreation or handprint.
Honestly, HIMI and Arrtx jelly gouache sets are really good for the price. Other sets in the same price range are basically unusable. I've made some pretty nice paintings with the jelly sets. But the Holbein are clearly better. There's so much more depth and clarity in the colors.
I totally agree! I'm currently working on pieces with bigger flat layers with the Himi Gouache and that's where I see the most quality issues. As long as you have lots of little details it works really well.
I don't make YT videos, but I do love the HIMI gouache and I also just bought the new Holbein sets that are named after the 4 seasons. They are called Irodori Artist's Gouache and I really love the colors! A set of 12 is only about $100 USD so they are a little less expensive than the original Holbein gouaches, but not by much. Still cheaper than some of the other more quality brands though. You might really like them!
IMHO...jelly & other cheap gouache are great for freely playing, learning & trying out stuff or if you create something fab, then make prints and then you don't need to worry about fading since inks used in quality prints are way more lightfast than lightfast paints. Time (hanging the art over time) and how the paint works for the artist is what's gonna tell the difference between cheap & pro paint. I love ❤️ jelly gouache. So much fun to use!
I have himi gouache and I really struggled with it, especially layering. I always activate the layers underneath, no matter how little water I add. Or if too little water, the gouache is too thick to move. I don’t understand how you are able to layer so many layers without activating the layers before. Magical.
A trick for better layering is to start with a thin, diluted layer of paint, and keep on building up to thicker paint as you keep on layering. That way, the thicker paint won’t reactivate the thinner paint below it as much.
I love both paintings, but now I want to try the Holbein gouache. I have some of the Himi sets and do like them, but the holbein looks so creamy and opaque right away.
I also adore their acrylic gouache. It's even better than the water soluble gouache, but of course a bit of a different medium since it's waterproof :) Turner acrylic gouache is also really good.
WoW this video was amazing ! The painting and the editing, beautiful ! Yess I stayed till the very last second 😂 Thank you for uploading this on my birthday, it made my day !!
You are so lovely and funny to watch 🙏😁 And talented 👍 Holbein is definitely awesome to paint with, but expensive especially if you're new to gouache. Here's a tip for those just wanting to test it: Use your cheaper gouache but buy a large tube of Holbein (or I recommend schmincke) white to mix it with 👍😉
Good job on the piece, I think it's an interesting experiment. You said it yourself, you have to work against cheap gouache to compensate the lack of opacity. For now I think I would feel guilty buying Holbein but I'm considering Winsor & Newton Designer's gouache.
Your evert painting is perfect.this painting is bringing freshness and smile on our face because it is full of greenery.I think your talent made both colours equal. We really liked your video.you made our day.🙂💖
Thank you, that was very helpful and informative! about the fading, as far as I know, the weakest HIMI colors are pink/purple/magenta and ironically for holbein the same :D so if you're looking for lightfastness, maybe those colors are worth checking out from Winsor or another manufacturer
How many other people were screaming, "Why are you pouring out so much paint!?!?!?" when setting up the holbein palette. I almost died 😢 so much paint that will probably be wasted 😭😭😭😭😫😫😫😫
Lieben Dank für den Vergleich 🤗 ich kenne beide nicht. Aber wue du schon gesagt hast, es hat einen Grund, weshalb manche Farben günstiger sind als andere. Die Pigmente spielen hier vor allem eine Rolle und die Lichtechtheit sicher auch. Ich persönlich habe die schmincke horadam gouache 😍
I love mine himi miya jelly gouache 56 set 😊i paint on canson a4 watercolour sketchbook i love himi miya gouache. I also paint whit acrylic gouache from the brand liquitex 😊I haven,t tryed it yet. Myby i,ll do a painting tommorow whit acrylic gouache 😊I love you,re gouache paintings😊👋🏾👍🏾 myby i paint easter eggs whit a bunny😂 i am late on easter😊
Lol, with those cheapest gouache, I'd rather just light my money on fire, because the frustration levels of using the cheap-cheap gouache is so bad. Is rather get some minimal enjoyment from the money arson 😂
amount of pigment is very important. and if trying to sell as a professional artist, you need to know the light fast quality of the paint. People learning a new medium may prefer to purchase a good quallty low cost product, with an understanding of that medium's deficiencies.
Yeah I don't disagree! Most of my followers do not sell their art but if someone does, it's the ethical thing to look into pigments & light fastness and make sure the colors don't fade.
Sorry for the late response! You can see that especially the pink tones have started to fade now on the cheaper paint. It really depends on how much light the piece gets though. I have one piece that has faded extremely whereas this one has only a slight difference to what it looked like originally
I wish this was a portrait. I can't tell if I'm just not getting the hang of gouache or if my paint us too cheap. And I don't want to spend more money on a medium u don't enjoy
Especially for portraits I'd go with higher quality gouache because you'll have a much better experience with painting skin. Skin can be so hard to get right! I'd say get a small starter set of a really good brand to try out, you'll notice a difference for sure.
