$200 Keycaps Vs Cheap Keycaps - Why

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@soondubu. 4 года назад

"It seems almost impossible to spend this much money on pieces of plastic" ...lego sets...

@CaveyMoth 3 года назад

...Anime figurines.

@tobubiify 3 года назад

@@CaveyMoth or just figurines in general, they cost like 1000$+

@Chester200100 3 года назад

Gunpla but the engineering is amazing so i shill. Maybe someday i will afford an PG set.

@enriquemunoz6415 3 года назад

@@Chester200100 slowly staring at pgu rx-78-2 that I wanna buy

@Chester200100 3 года назад

@@enriquemunoz6415 Cries in not having 300 usd to spare

@janalphabet 4 года назад

i dont use keycaps im typing on the switches

@jimrossabrena7955 4 года назад

😭 Nice

@nathanl7221 4 года назад

bruh same lmao i actually dont use the keycaps

@thallium54 4 года назад

brutal

@mclaren10k 4 года назад

what a legend

@NotGoodAtYoutube 4 года назад

Janalphabet Lol you use switches, you fucking noob, I activate it with a switch puller going in the pcb Edit: just in case, it’s a joke please don’t get mad

@Glarses 4 года назад

this is a brilliant video

@nibbsta5019 4 года назад

you make brilliant videos

@RealOxygentv 4 года назад

You actually do WATCH EVERY video of keyboards xD , your skit wasnt lying damn .

@Glarses 4 года назад

@@RealOxygentv fr, I'm obsessed atm

@Decenity 4 года назад

@@Glarses and i watched all your videos

@cruf9376 4 года назад

lmao you’ve got me into custom keyboards i’m on my way to making my own now lmao tysm for making me spend unholy amounts of money on asthetic utensils

@thereckless2205 4 года назад

Somebody get this man a pointer so he stops marking things with his nice pen

@HentaiNat 4 года назад

Or maybe just suck out the ink

@kylemckell 4 года назад

@@HentaiNat slurp

@CaveyMoth 3 года назад

I thought he was writing on the keycap to demonstrate something.

@75yomu 3 года назад

It looked like just a normal pen you get for $1

@jdtechgear 2 года назад

Custom legends

@qorkado5007 4 года назад

As a person who swapped out pudding keycaps for matrix keycaps, I was wondering why my keyboard sounded so different. Thank you for this video.

@jdtechgear 4 года назад

Yeah the Matrix caps are much better than the Pudding ones.

@mr6291 4 года назад

Just a heads-up but if you like the look of pudding but enjoy thicker, higher quality keycaps... The new Ducky pudding caps are pretty great. Got some for my son and they were better quality and thickness than standard pudding caps found elsewhere. PBT doubleshot.

@randyrocha5846 2 года назад

Got purple pudding Matrix keycaps not to long ago! Really enjoy them though I cant tell the difference much from those and some Amazon Green ones I got for half the price.

@andrewy2830 4 года назад

"can cost as much as some cpus or GPUs" it's alright i'll just use integrated graphics

@HardyMirandaHD 4 года назад

Hell yeah

@jakobdingsbums5661 3 года назад

Allways if I can get good looking keycaps with GMK on the box! Why would I want a good computer anyways. It more reasonable to buy 200 $ pieces of plastic.

@MitchellJBridges 4 месяца назад

I have a weak PC cause that's all I need.

@benjimc1 3 года назад

Working in the injection moulding industry. I can confirm the main thing you're paying for is limited availability/limited runs. Abs vs pbt and even manufacturing quality to an extent is not the biggest price differential. That will be a few pence/cents per key cap at most. But limited runs can be the biggest difference. When you divide tooling costs and press time into each part, a 50k single shot tool or 100k double shot tool set (rough estimates) with colour variations with setup costs and small run times etc is where the money adds up for the manufacturer ROI.

@nickglover 2 года назад

So what you're saying is that they are intentionally making them available for limited times so that they can charge more rather than keeping them around so that they can charge less. That is, artificially inflating demand and price at the same time so that they can justify the absurd prices. Hmmm.

@benjimc1 2 года назад

@@nickglover yes and no. The manufacturer will estimate demand and base their runs on this. At the end of the day you have a cost of investment, so if you can't invest for 100k sets but can only afford 1k sets then so be it.

@nickglover 2 года назад

I suppose that also doesn't really explain why sets that are normally stocked, like basically every MT3 set on Drop, are so expensive. Those should have the better ROI, and yet...

@benjimc1 2 года назад

@@nickglover again you can look at it from a pure material and process aspect and these sets should cost no more than about £10. You put a price on your brand though separately based on what you think of your engineering/design input and what that is worth. When you talk Automotive (segment I work in) , you are not looking at 100k more car from an audi Q5 to a range rover vogue. But people pay that for the perceived quality/luxury of the range rover.

@nickglover 2 года назад

Yeah, I think that's really what I'm saying. People want to justify the prices, but really it's just that they can get away with charging that. If we all stopped buying, they'd probably lower prices. But it's a weird inflated market we've all accepted, so it continues.

@bedzy 4 года назад

"As it seems almost impossible to spend that much on pieces of plastic". Cries in WH40K

@IronCake44 3 года назад

This is really fantastically narrated, thanks for putting together this video for us! You did great👍

@sanjacobs6261 3 года назад

It's so refreshing to see a video that doesn't need music to be engaging. Great work, man!

@frim3647 4 года назад

excellent video, straight to the point and toned down comfortably

@thanhlengoc3805 4 года назад

A long needed explaination, and a nicely executed one. 10/10

@josefaguilar2955 3 года назад

EPBT is seriously underrated. Also no mention of Signature Plastics SA. Their ABS is on another caliber. Not as crisp as GMK but looks better when it turns shiny.

@Shadowsphere1 4 года назад

I got myself a KBD67 which requires a shorter shift key that many mainstream keycap sets don't have, which forced me to dig into the custom keyboard market and many of the popular Chinese keyboard websites like Taihao, Kprepublic and KBDfans. I'm really glad I didn't go for a cheap $40 set of two-tone and instead settled on a GB of EPBT Sushi keys. They are really nice to touch and super high quality. $100 for the set.

@theomnivert 3 года назад

Bro you're so good at talking I am mesmerized, subbed instantly

@riteu 4 года назад

Damn! I feel like my knowledge of keycaps seriously levelled up in under 10 minutes! Super informative video JD!

@jdtechgear 4 года назад

Thank you Rita! I'm glad it could be followed without getting too technical 😅

@tomsanderson 4 года назад

preach

@samanthakim5035 2 года назад

Same

@xXDarthBagginsXx 3 года назад

JTK has become one of my go to brands of middle-ground, Also JTK has been one of the few to pull off a Triple-shot set of caps on a few different runs. Custom boards is a endless rabbit hole to fall into, but imo worth it over-all.

@arkaneforyou 2 года назад

im poor

@megadeth8592 3 года назад

Amazing video 👌 do you have any plans on covering pom keycaps in the future?

@Jdroo20 4 года назад

I’m waiting on the GMK Vaporwave to arrive, it’s going to be a nice upgrade from the cheap white keycaps that I currently have and help bring my setup together

@jdtechgear 4 года назад

Send pics on discord when they come in

@Jdroo20 4 года назад

@@jdtechgear I'll be sure to! I'm hoping for them to come within the next two weeks

@Phiz787 4 года назад

@@Jdroo20 Did you get your keycaps? :)

@ferigalung 3 года назад

i love "actually the entire of this hobby require a lot of patience" just, true

@Hyperion9700 3 года назад

I'm getting GMK Umbras in 2021 and I wanted to fully understand what makes them so good ! Thank you for the video

@BigBoyz33 3 года назад

Very well put and a educational video, thanks !

@JerelTeh 3 года назад

beautiful summary right there, you've just earned a like, nice vid

@lilv728 2 года назад

This was super helpful thanks!

@oscarshinkfield4105 4 года назад

you deserve so many more subscribers with this quality of videos

@DethMetlZomb Год назад

Extremely informative. Thank you.

@shinespark9 4 года назад

Great content. Subscribed!

@AshF1 3 года назад

Great info and excellent video :)

@lanzlagman3511 4 года назад

Additional point: Profile. Most boards use OEM but I've seen a few with DSA. I haven't seen boards with SA caps stock, so if they're your thing, it's aftermarket only.

@zekeviews 3 года назад

Legend says he's still inking the insides of keycaps till this very day.

@jdtechgear 2 года назад

It's how I prototype novelties

@velitasali 3 года назад

I don't use keycaps or switches. I short the key wirings to send an input.

@MrBlitzpunk 3 года назад

That group buy thing sounds like dlc season pass in gaming

@ultrasquid579 2 года назад

I plan on getting some cheapo ones from amazon initially so that i can actually use my first board, but upgrading to GMK as soon as possible.

@amizan8653 3 года назад

Got myself some $30 dye sublimated PBT keycaps. The japanese coral sea. Fucking love them. I'll take the aesthetic of them over the $200 GMKs any day.

@TonyThomas10000 3 года назад

Excellent video and useful information.

@Ryan.Kooper Год назад

I’ve done so much god damn research about plastics after going through a few sets of caps. U touched on a lot of good points.

@finnk1289 4 года назад

I got a blue switch TKL keyboard for free. Thin shinethrough ABS keycaps. When I build a proper board, it'll be with thick PBT DSA profile caps. The uniform profile is better for typing personally and for compatibility. And it looks and sounds more premium at a decent price.

@kingjulien9525 4 года назад

Thanks for the lesson,. Keep it up

@OvaltineClassique 2 года назад

I thought that PBT spacebar with the lattice on the inside was familiar... the VA68M that it came with might've been hot garbage but they certainly knew what they were doing when they made a nice spacebar.

@CaveyMoth 3 года назад

What about the sounds that certain keycaps make when typing? Are there materials of keycaps or differing shapes and thicknesses that sound different when typing?

@Jackomo2011 2 года назад

A lot of good information, but i would have wished for a form of comparison table at the end to better decide what to get. Cannot wait for my first set to arrive =)

@jdtechgear 2 года назад

I feel ya, there's a lot of brands out there I've yet to see in person that I feel would be necessary to put together a chart for pure comparison. Honestly after a certain price range it comes down to preference

@aiwa501 4 года назад

@JDTechGear Great video. Can you please tell me what the keycaps are at 6:30.

@jdtechgear 4 года назад

ePBT Olevetti I think

@thestreamreader 3 года назад

What is a good keycap set at around $50 or less range? Good video idea!! Key cap sets for every budget range with a review of what might be best for each budget range $25 or less on up.

@mdtaylor2274 4 года назад

What a great video and I learned a lot. I just made an expensive mistake and bought the Logitech G513 GX Blue keyboard and disappointed that the secondary characters are not see through. Do you know if there's any nice keycaps that I can swap out, that has all characters see through?

@Crustee0 4 года назад

Maybe lookup taihao keycap sets from mechanicalkeyboard, its priced quite cheaply and i believe is doubleshot abs mostly. Doubleshot are usually backlit-able, tho correct me if thats wrong.

@nqel0 3 года назад

very well done video. thanks a ton.

@Ken-zg3ze 2 года назад

Whoaaa. It is you! You're the guy that did the Batman Parody mouse review.

@christofferredfielfd1758 Год назад

Domikey and tai hao are both good. Some interesting bow Jian coming I have a good feeling

@flojo9982 4 года назад

Great Vid! Thx! I'm currently looking for nice blank keycabs for my ducky one 2 mini with iso de layout. Any recommendations? Would be much appreciated! 😁

@jaalanodaicyr868 3 года назад

Just out of curiosity, why do people want blanks?

@nikolaslialios479 3 года назад

I joined my first GMK group buy last week and am now waiting on my set of GMK Nightshade!

@alex99x99x 3 года назад

dont worry, theyll be waiting for you next year.

@nikolaslialios479 3 года назад

@@alex99x99x oh ik, I bought it for my Christmas/New Years gift 😂

@ojcubz 3 года назад

Thanks for this, I always thought PBT was the be all and end all of key caps. The shining on ABS you mentioned is pretty accurate, I've had my keyboard for like 3months now and I can already see some shining on my keys. That's pretty much how I figured out that I have ABS key caps lol.

@SNDVeteran 4 года назад

Wow i didn't know the differences between different types of keycaps from manufacturers. I just bought a keyboard that was a collaboration with wasd keyboard and jtk ketcaps and it came out to 250. I bought it because i knew doubleshot pbt keycaps are rare to come by and supposedly last forever but now there are different manufacturers that offer doubleshot keycaps. My question is how good is jtk opposed to gmk? Thanks in advance

@jdtechgear 4 года назад

JTK from what I hear is pretty good quality, I haven't used them myself, so I can't speak on it's behalf but the general consensus is good for the money!

@Praxtra_ 3 года назад

I’d love a comparison video of the GMK Laser and Akko Neon keycap sets.. I love the look of the laser, but the Akko looks solid for the price. Tons of additional options and robust colors

@mechros4460 3 года назад

Definitely, some would go far as to say that the Akko has better quality.

@Praxtra_ 3 года назад

@@mechros4460 I definitely wouldn’t go that far, I had warping on a spacebar and a bunch of caps were missing chunks. It was a nice keycap set but definitely had its flaws

@mechros4460 3 года назад

@@Praxtra_ seems like the quality is pretty inconsistent. Some people have great sets and some people have a lot of warping issues. Also the font lettering is inconsistent on some of the keycaps (modifiers, enter).

@bakadraco6321 3 года назад

Where did you purchase your custom cable from at 6:09 if you don’t mind me asking?

@jdtechgear 2 года назад

I made that one!

@saucyg6371 4 года назад

I contacted the designer of the Apollo set, he said there’s currently no plans on a second run. He’s focused on new designs.

@jdtechgear 2 года назад

Nooooo. I need my gray set. Modern Dolch it is

@zywpx1572 4 года назад

Can’t believe you didn’t method Signature Plastic, they are famous of SA profile.

@GUT5S 3 года назад

you forgot a major con of GMK sets; they get shiny due to being made of ABS, the font won't wear off since its doubleshot but they'll start to feel pretty nasty and the shine will be visible

@YanDoroshenko 3 года назад

And there I was thinking that waiting 2 weeks for a pair of split keyboard PCBs is a long time.

@Ostreaf 4 года назад

The amount of times he said keycaps...

@cyberion2477 4 года назад

So does high quality, double-shot, mocha espresso, ABS keycaps mean no shining like standard PBT keycaps?

@thomb.9013 2 года назад

what about pom keycaps, for example the ones made by esc keyboard, what is that compared to abs and pbt?

@adamrustly7558 3 года назад

Dsa magic girl is the most colorful, prettiest keycaps ive seen. Wish they were 2mm thick though

@mrjuiceee9264 2 года назад

Are Tai hao keycaps any good..i just hopped into the keyboard space

@FrancoDFernando 3 года назад

IMO, the best modern keycaps are on Leopold keyboards. THICC doubleshot PBT. We all know why we like THICCness, the doubleshot lettering means it will last forever, and the pbt is SIGNIFICANTLY less prone to shine than ABS. The build quality and legends are superb They do have two drawbacks: 1) Since they only make them for basically one layout (Their different board layouts is just some sort of cutdown version of their 100% layout), compatibility is an issue. And 2) they don't come in many colorways. But if you don't mind those things, I highly recommend them I wish whoever made the keycaps for Leopolds would sell sets of these keycaps, with additional functionality and colorways

@joshe2420 4 года назад

Maybe this will help me explain to my friend that a $12 keycap set from aliexpress is worse than a $12 spacebar from matrix

@Crustee0 4 года назад

To you its worse, but to him its probably better. Imagine if he just want to change to overall feel of his keyboard, with a full set he can change everything on his keyboard, but with a spacebar? Good luck with that.

@yubinator7455 4 года назад

The only thing I hate on my stock ABS keycaps is it is a finger grease magnet. I had to clean it one a week or twice a month.

@UnusualPudding 4 года назад

Thats when you reached the shininess the lubey keycap so yummy i want to lick

@GrimYak 4 года назад

and to think I bought the RK61 for just $35

@titaniumwaffle4304 4 года назад

dose anyone know a set of PBT key-caps with transparent legends that would be compatible with the layout of the corsair K95 RGB i like the feel of the PBT caps on my DAS Keyboard but there blanks and i need the extra macro keys on my K95 for work

@ShadowCooper77 3 года назад

I'm still quite confused - i get the limited availability part, but for the other parts how is it possible to be so much more expensive? it's just thicker and colored plastic that is manufactured with more precision, but its still small pieces of plastic? Like it doesnt make sense that it costs the same as a decent cpu. Or do you think that the limited availability is the main reason for the price? Bc that would make sense for custom keyboards too

@jdtechgear 2 года назад

A multitude of factors. The Novelties/Colors and more are R&D'd for each set. It's a big upfront cost to a kimited group buy.

@brunomarcos5001 2 года назад

man I been lookin for some ISO-portuguese keycaps layout since forever

@dulla8469 2 года назад

the hardest thing about buying keycaps, is finding a set you like the legends, colors, thematics, and how it all looks as a whole, i couldnt care less about abs and pbt and stuff like that, but i cant seem to find any keycaps that i like, and i dont know where to look, amazon is limited to maybe 25 keycaps, and banggood the same, and most of those look too flashy and weird

@jdtechgear 2 года назад

Having all the preferences met is definitely tricky. Sometimes it depends on my mood haha

@Altirix_ 3 года назад

to add to this, getting any custom keycaps for ISO (even UK ISO which has only a few additional caps compared to france or german) is very hard, most of the cheaper but still decent quality caps only support ANSI or partial ISO support, so the £100 range is non-existant there. maybe if someone knows of some sets link them below but ive yet to find any

@jdtechgear 3 года назад

Yeah this is also true. There isn't as much support for ISO layout from what I've seen.

@Altirix_ 3 года назад

@@jdtechgear seems KAT kits may be a good option, they are slowly poping up. maybe more will come out with the GMK wait times

@Miss.WhiteCoffee 4 года назад

Been trying to find key caps that only have kanji but only found a few.

@desmondwhy8265 4 года назад

planning to swap my logitech g610 orion keycap. im just wondering does every keycap fit? especially spacebar

@SuperSohaizai 4 года назад

First check whether your keyboard supports cherry MX stem since most keycaps uses that. Next check how many spots it supports but for most keyboard it is the same. Then also check the space-bar length. They uses u, as in unit, to check a length of a keycap. 1u is equal to 1 normal alphabet key. In case you are worried, just get a packet that has multiple variation especially the enter key

@akira8-customkeyboards17 3 года назад

On ali express you can find G-MKY keycaps and Maxkey/Domikey keycaps, same quality for half of the price and always in stock.

@jdtechgear 3 года назад

Actually have been researching this for the last couple of months. I'll say the price is better but the quality depends on the brand you buy off of Ali. MaxKey, Domikey, ePBT, and a couple others are actually pretty solid. Don't fall for OneCao though

@dannytran173 4 года назад

Any recs for the best keycaps around 50-80?

@jdtechgear 2 года назад

AKKO!

@anandamntsy4679 11 месяцев назад

hey bro, what’s black and red keycaps on this video? 6:19

@SageRites 3 года назад

Thank you

@piggy1198 4 года назад

what was the cap set at 6:38?

@rakebluewallgaming6185 3 года назад

I missed that set, i wanted it so bad

@StarbucksBob 3 года назад

so doubleshot ABS won't shine overtime, but do they match PBT on that end?

@jdtechgear 2 года назад

As far as I know any type of ABS will shine over time

@technostarsmr.j4193 4 года назад

Wait... I just watched a video about key caps... What has this lock down done to me

@kazuhira_miller 4 года назад

There's a big community for keyboard enthusiasts

@jfmg64 4 года назад

You should look for artisan keycaps, they're very expensive but beautiful. Usually people use them on the ESC key.

@XalphYT 3 года назад

You will be horrified to learn that most of us have been enjoying custom keycaps long before pandemic lockdowns ever happened

@KirballsKeys 3 года назад

It’s made you a man of culture.

@jimmymonz 3 года назад

I think a typing sound test of comparison would complement your explanation better.

@jdtechgear 3 года назад

There isn't a notable difference in sound besides some acute differences. Sounds is mainly affected by case, sound treatment, switches, stabilizers, and plate material.

@minior9020 2 года назад

what set is that at 5:15 ? if anyone still sees this :)

@TheFeriner 4 года назад

So do all these pros actually increase the price to manufacture the key caps enough to justify these > $150 price tags? Or is a big chunk of it the “premium” and “limited edition” feel

@JustDeceased 2 года назад

What are those keycaps at 6:30 I've been looking for a colorway like that for awhile

@jdtechgear 2 года назад

Those are ePBT Olivetti. They're mostly in stock keycaps

@JustDeceased 2 года назад

Thanks you so much

@JustDeceased 2 года назад

@@jdtechgear Are they any good?

@jaydawg4014 4 года назад

I looked for the metropolis keycaps that were in this video and was disappointed when i saw they were sold a year ago smh

@mitschnel607 3 года назад

Can anyone help me out? I'm searching a gray, white or black (or any of these coloures mixed) full sized keycap set with white black or gray good visible letters because I dont want the LED light to get thru them these lights I have just dont look good (I can turn the light off tho) .. I have been searching one for 2 hours but cant find anything... if one of you knows a website on wich you can search for a set like or just a set that looks like my description pls tell me :)

@hackcult3738 3 года назад

I have 3 gmk sets. I don’t think I’ll ever get rid of them.

@wertnog6379 4 месяца назад

Grab a dart board, write as many colors as you can think of, throw three darts. Congratulations, you just designed a keycap set.

@abussin 3 года назад

Can you show us what keycaps work on a ducky or is it just ducky keycaps ? I’m new to the pc scene

@jdtechgear 3 года назад

What you're looking for is CherryMX style keycaps.

@huntertran5422 4 года назад

Thickness, anti fading, anti warping are pretty much the only things I look out for. After that, its just personal preference of the design

@oliviaw5250 4 года назад

Intriguing

@oliverbryant1 3 года назад

“It seems impossible to spend this much on plastic” *Looks at LEGO collection*

@Slada1 3 года назад

And lego is mass produced!

@rks5457 3 года назад

@@Slada1 Lego also has good quality control and a long history of it. These low volume keycap, switch and keyboard companies do not. You'd think these supposedly "one off" group buy keycaps and switches would be of the highest quality but they rarely if ever are completely without defects. Gmk plays it safe by barely innovating.

@vorge4115 3 года назад

Lol yeah, I totally forgot that some keycaps cost the same than a ryzen 3600

@Joeker8171 4 года назад

WOW! my Nephew is deep into key caps, I shared this video with him on his Discord. I never knew they would cost this much, WOW.........AWESOME video JD

@jdtechgear 4 года назад

Thanks Mr Cly! I hope he enjoyed it 😆

@Joeker8171 4 года назад

@@jdtechgear we both enjoyed it.

@HoloScope 4 года назад

I have a keyboard with a 5 pin jst connector internally with a usb output to plug into PC, is there anyway i can convert this 5 pin jst connector into a usb c so i can have a detachable cable or like be able to connect those cool detachable cables like you have

@jdtechgear 4 года назад

I haven't done it myself personally. I believe there might be a solution on the internet as I would like to do the same thing to a couple of keyboards I have already and give them a detachable cable. That's why I'm always searching for a Type-C detachable keyboard. It is very important for any keyboard I buy.

@HoloScope 4 года назад

@@jdtechgear thanks for the reply, very scarce info on the interwebs about it

@zlimothyvrother 3 года назад

Probably late but you can check Pexon PCs, a small company based in the UK for those. Just choose the filco termination that the site offers during customization of whatever type of cable you choose to buy. You can find a video of how this works by searching "Pexon cable filco" on youtube.

@TheSmithNL 3 года назад

Anyone any thoughts on Ducky Pudding keycaps?

@KelvinTan133 4 года назад

0:45 What are those? Prolly one of the prettiest minimal colour combination of a Keyboard Cable I've ever seen.. by SummitCables? Zap? Those black aviators + the blue

@jdtechgear 4 года назад

I made that cable from parts bought off of Zap, came out way better than I thought it would!

@KelvinTan133 4 года назад

@@jdtechgear You have pics or video featuring builds with that cable? Can't seem to notice any on your RU-vid channel

@jdtechgear 3 года назад

@@KelvinTan133 sorry I never saw this man, I might try and make a video of it if you like or a build stream of sorts

@KelvinTan133 3 года назад

@@jdtechgear Yo man. That'd be sick. More and more keyboard enthusiasts are booming up everywhere. Should grab the opportunity sir. Would never know your view count shoots up like wild.