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@nerdonabudget
@nerdonabudget Год назад
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@DJ.1001
@DJ.1001 Год назад
I've sold a few builds on jawa based on the dell 3040. I too used a 1650 super. However there are a few upgrades you missed. First the power supply can be upgraded, there is a Dell PSU part #D315ES. It is 315w and includes a single 6 pin pci-e. It has all the same connectors as the original PSU as well. It fits in the case other than the need to drill 2 holes and add 2 screws in the rear due to the different bolt pattern. Once installed it is secure and fit without any issues. The other upgrade in the memory. You can use faster memory but it needs to have a JDEC profile for the higher speed. Generic Crucial green pcb memory has always worked for me.
@Iinustechtips
@Iinustechtips Год назад
Do you know how much power the i7 6700's use in these dell systems? Official tdp is 65w, but most of my dell optiplex's run at around 40w, wondering if these are any different.
@acloserlook5823
@acloserlook5823 Год назад
@@Iinustechtips 6700 and 6700x are 65w, 6700t is 35 w. In gaming 6700 only hits max when all four cores are being used. 6700t maintains steady 35w in all scenarios IME.
@johnfreeman5956
@johnfreeman5956 Год назад
@@Iinustechtips Is that max usage? Because aside from maxxing it out, the CPU doesn't draw 65 watts constantly.
@Iinustechtips
@Iinustechtips Год назад
@@johnfreeman5956 yes, I ran prime 95, and it peaks at 40ish watts
@johnfreeman5956
@johnfreeman5956 Год назад
@@Iinustechtips Might be BIOS limited or throttled or something? That power draw looks a lot like the low power S skus Intel had. Have you tried putting it in another motherboard?
@mastersingleton
@mastersingleton Год назад
This is a great budget build whereby the pros and cons of a build like this is clearly articulated. Keep up the great work.
@NiGhtPiSH
@NiGhtPiSH Год назад
OEM systems up to 4th Gen Core used more standard components including PSUs and only needed an adapter from 24-pin to whatever Lenovo, HP or Dell put on their boards (10-pin or 14-pin). Now OEM systems are worth it only in Tiny/Mini/Micro form factors to get you up and running for basic local tasks, emulation or local streaming from a beefier rig. I still use the case of a Lenovo ThinkStation E31 for the card reader and optical drive, but I sold it's original motherboard, upgraded Xeon 1270v2, 16GB DDR3 I got it with, broke even and went 12th Gen. The difference is night and day between Ivy Bridge and Alder Lake.
@radionos8515
@radionos8515 Год назад
I Actually found a 360w PSU that dell sold with a 6 pin PCIE that was plug and play. Under $60 used if you look around. I used the extra headroom with an 8 pin adapter to install a 1660ti without issue.
@douglasmurphy3266
@douglasmurphy3266 6 месяцев назад
There is great value to be had in these OptiPlexes but also a very narrow path to not screw it up. You succeeded in this build by getting the unit super cheap, getting a GPU at a good price, not investing money in a PSU, and not replacing other things like the CPU - Ive seen other builds where people replace almost everything, so the only thing they got from the Optiplex in the end was an obsolete motherboard. The next couple of generations of Optiplex that are coming down in price (talking as they age out to 5-7 years) offer a TON of value in that they are coming with NVMe SSDs, 32GB DDR4, USB-C, with other options and variations. The downside still remains the PSU, and they are pretty much all SFF or MFF. So your GPU option remains at the same level 75-100W but is also further limited to low-profile, so you're looking at the rx 6400, rtx 3050 6GB, gtx 1650 non-SUPER and the trouble becomes getting down below that $160 range - so used deals are a must. I'd say the other pitfall of getting these from an auction as opposed to officially renewed/refurb is that the likelihood that someone snagged the good stuff (NVMe, RAM) on the way out of the office. I think the best case scenario would be prices coming down (I know, not very likely) for the 3050 / 6400 cards or maybe even in the next year or so there could be drastically more powerful 4-5nm RDNA4 offering from AMD. Nvidia might not care to make a 4N Ada card in that class. And Intel's ARC A380 WOULD be the perfect fit but it only works well with resizeable bar (more recent platforms)
@iamyourmuse
@iamyourmuse Год назад
Very good job, alot of people are opting to buy older business pc's and upgrading them. I got the HP Elitedesk 800 G4 which I got refurbished from a local guy who does it out of his garage. It came with 16gb of ram and an SSD and booted up in a couple seconds, it also came with an I5-8500 and got a low profile GPU and sure, it's limited but hey, I got it and the Monitor, keyboards and mouse for $150 and spent $37 on the GPU so it's all good. It's a SFF so I couldn't go with a GPU that would need more space and power unless I ran it externally but it's a goood deal
@BeefLettuceAndPotato
@BeefLettuceAndPotato Год назад
Great video and earned a sub from me. My only comment is I think for most users the RX 6400 would be the move. Of course it trades blows more with the 1650 non Super but the fact that you wouldn't need to risk the adapter and you'd have RSR on any game with full screen, I feel, really adds to the value proposition. Whereas the 1650S can't use DLSS, which isn't even universally available anyway. Orrrrrr... really bang for power usage, maybe that new RX 6600M that's floating around. A laptop to desktop variant of the chip that stays cooler and sips power. It's also 100W at default and blasts the 1650S on FPS.. and that's before undervolting.
@tidedetergentyummy
@tidedetergentyummy Год назад
@MidnightInRome uhhhh did you forget that some old NVIDIA gpus have NIS, equivalent to AMD's RSR. Correct me if I'm wrong, pre-gt 1030 cards are also supported
@BeefLettuceAndPotato
@BeefLettuceAndPotato Год назад
@Tide Detergent I did in fact. NIS is so little talked about and DLSS is always what's compared to FSR/RSR that i didn't consider it. Regardless... That 6600M would blow this 1650S out of the water and we wouldn't even need to talk about the ole upscales. Props for bringing it up tho, ya got me there.
@Muuchi
@Muuchi Год назад
By far the best explained video of optiplex's and the problems that they can have with the PSU and having to power the GPU with SATA adapters.
@chadmann2724
@chadmann2724 Год назад
There is no problem with my 290W supply that came with the system.
@EclecticTastes
@EclecticTastes Год назад
A couple of points. 1. The box came without disk drive, but I saw no provision for funding Windows software, that I'm pretty certain you'd need. You may be able to source it free, but if any of us did it, it would be piracy. 2. Replacement parts. My suggestion would be to not buy any replacement parts, but to purchase two of these boxes at the same time. That would give you a full set of replacement parts, plus it would obviate the need to purchase another RAM stick, because you could use the one out of the spare. You may even get some discount for purchasing two, and that should future-proof you for a little while.
@yeetus59
@yeetus59 Год назад
Ive built similar gaming PCs from Optiplex and HP office prebuilds. I usually go for the ones that have the standard PSU size for easy upgradability. I just upgraded an HP tower with a 650w 80 platinum and it goes nicely with the RX 580 and i7 6700 combo. The CPU is definitely a bottleneck but its a great budget setup if you just want 60fps in AAA and high refresh rate esports.
@njsurf1973
@njsurf1973 Год назад
It's nice to see someone talk about the fact that just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. You're right it is an inexpensive entry level build... But a year and a half from now it may not be able to run what you want. Thanks for the insight.
@walterlegere1403
@walterlegere1403 Год назад
Nice to see someone showing BOTH (positive and negative) sides of upgrading these proprietary systems. To date, I've done three different OEM HP systems and a Dell All-in-One Inspiron One. I've done a 4th Gen Intel, 7th Gen Intel and 8th Gen Intel systems and discovered that "newer" isn't always "better" when it comes to upgrading these systems. The Dell was a Pentium upgraded to a 2nd Gen Core i5, an SSD and an additional 8GB of RAM. Much to my surprise and shock, the 4th Gen completely out-performed the 7th Gen and the 8th Gen only out-performed the 4th Gen because of the GPU, a low profile GTX-1050ti 4GB as opposed to a GTX-1650 8GB in the 8th Gen. He's right when he said "save your money and build a system from scratch and you won't have any future upgrade limitations". I built a 7th Gen system using mostly used parts for just a bit under $600 and that's with an Asrock Z270 MATX mainboard, 32GB RAM, 1TB NVMe, Core i7-7700K, used platinum rated 650 watt modular PS , 5- 120MM RGB case fans w/controller and a GTX-1080 8GB GPU. Plus, I can over-clock the entire system. I can also completely gut the case and start over if I want.
@DustyOrchid057
@DustyOrchid057 Год назад
you could easily put a bigger power supply just need to do some sketchy Drimmer cutting, which you would have to remove all pc components leaving you with just the pc case
@VikingDudee
@VikingDudee Год назад
The only issue with OEM systems and why even on a budget I wouldn't recommend to anyone getting into gaming is what you have said, who knows how many hours are on the system, but even that system, you can not just go out and get any standard motherboard to replace a failed motherboard, PSU connections are different, the case is different, I try my best to only look for deals on the OEM side of things if they used standards. I use a Dell OptiPlex 390 for my media server, the original board died, its a standard forum factor, but Dell used a different front panel connectors and a few other odd pinot connectors I had to modify to usa a more standard board, thats the only downfall. I'd have to further look into so and so system before I can just recommend it unless its at a really good price.
@Sprite897
@Sprite897 Год назад
I put a gtx 1660 ti in my own dell optiplex 7040 exact same desktop shown in the video, to power it I connected an external 500 watt power supply so I got 2 power supplys on that and if I really wanted to it could power a 30 series card because the 500 watt psu is soley dedicated to powering a gpu, the internal power supply powers the rest of the computer.
@j.lietka9406
@j.lietka9406 Год назад
Recently I found 4 Dell Precision tower workstations: 3 T3620s, & 1 T1650. All have the Xeon CPU! I think the 1650 is a 10 year old system, & the 3620s are about 7 yeats old. The 3620, at least 1, can support the i7 7700 / 7700K! (i5 & i7)
@MannElite
@MannElite Год назад
Good video and well said. I think this and a modern budget pc are two different things... I was helping a neighbor tune up an old attic PC, it was it was a core 2 duo system to give you an idea of how old it was and I warned them that it was kind of wasteful to buy upgrades for it. But the reality was, they didn't even have $4-500 to get a cheap but new PC, they had $100 to spend. So I got a sata SSD and I think like a GT 710 (I honestly can't remember the exact gpu it was) from ebay for like $20... They only had to spend like $60 total, and this thing was up and running and playing microsoft word and outlook and their kid could play roblox on it. Honestly, I warned them losing their OEM Microsoft Office Software licenses is what would cost them the most in the long run lol
@Grim_trades
@Grim_trades 15 дней назад
good vid . i have been looking into pc building but im nervous with dropping a 1000$ and messing up in the process so i like the idea of this and then just making something usable for a relative friend etc. but i have also been just debating moving my pre builts to a after market case and learning components that way but what i have been learning is the oem mother boards on prebuilts don't show you what the pins are for panels etc . any ways if anything 70$ and some other change and just having something you can tincure with sounds like a good investment to learn.
@scythesinguialuciferkronos8599
@scythesinguialuciferkronos8599 2 месяца назад
a case swap is all you need for an upgraded power supply, for a total of about $75 from what I can find.
@theHardwareBench
@theHardwareBench Год назад
You shouldn't run generic supplies or old ones as they will take out other components sometimes when they fail. Some Dell Optiplex models have ATX supplies and can be swapped straight out. The 12v rail is the important specification not the total peak wattage. My Optiplex 3020 cost £250 GBP total with a new Corsair 550w PSU, new 120gb SSD and a GTX 1070. The main catch is I have a PC that looks like it belongs in a skip and I can't overclock the memory or CPU. I can run Fortnite pretty smooth on Epic settings at 60fps. My CPU is the Haswell i5 and I have 8gb ram.
@jonnypeace2810
@jonnypeace2810 Год назад
old hardware is great and I think certain components do last a long time. I still have an overclocked i7 3770k pc running like a champion with some fast ddr3 (2400mhz gskill trident x) ram, in the original motherboard it was built in (and original PSU also, which was only a bronze). With recent power energy price hikes though, if you have have an idle running pc, the power efficiency might not be as good. I have a haswell server that has a lot of hardware (4 SAS HDDs & controller, 5 SSDs, 1 sata HDD, GTX1050ti), and it idles around 80-85w, which is probably not too bad all things considered (xeon 1271 v3 cpu & 32GB RAM), but i leave it off just now unless i have to use it, just because of the energy prices. I instead run server duties from a cluster of old 6th & 7th gen mobile cpus, like i3 6100u where the idle power is very low (still old tech though) - i lose ecc memory, but it's only temporary (4 of these running, total idle power 8-10w).
@avrain27
@avrain27 Год назад
I had a vistro die on me when i installed a 3060 card using a sata power adapter. It worked for a while then once i tried a heavy game, it just went off with a burning smell coming out. Fortunately the card was still fine and I had to build a proper gaming PC around it. In short, I totally agree with the views in this video.
@georgemaragos2378
@georgemaragos2378 Год назад
Hi Actually a pretty good review showing of the best and worst. I typically recommend to family and friends to buy these ex lease 4 year old PC's A few years ago I also recommend for light gaming the GT1030 and the next step up the GTX1050 - the 1030 only draws 35 watts and performance is 60/70% of the 1050 - as long as you get the ddr5 memory version Also the 1030 is a great 1/2 size card for those small factor machines Smaller business will keep these machines until they die, the last 4 places i worked in were either all HP or all Dell places, a few machines die in the mother board, but i found most just cook them selves and switch off - especially if the machine was placed o the ground against a wall and on carpet, the insides are a fur ball Even worse was machines is factory environment, they are all black inside in 2 years !! I used to get some overtime every 3 months just taking apart pc's and taking them out the back and blowing them out with compressed air some were like a cartoon with a big black cloud - Dell power supplies were mainly clogged Second last place ran HP2400 with 2nd gen i5's and half ran win XP the others win 7 - i have one and it happily runs win 10 and a gt1030 I just gave away my Dell 9020 I7 with 4th or 5th gen cpu, to a friend at work with kids fighting over the single pc at home that was pretty good and similar to what you showed. I totally agree with your closing statement, cheap to buy but dont start replacing everything it will be a money pit, with the non standard mother board and power supply you are not going anywhere, the only mods is a graphics card and a new ssd or 2 of them For people who dont game much, they are excellent as the major OEM's are a good choice as you buy one, place a new ssd in it and install a fresh copy of win 10 or win 11 and it will become fully licensed after a few reboots - for most people this is perfect and you are not spending big $$$ to get licensed windows in saying that i have 2 machines that the HP laptop OEM wont attach and the sticker keys are for OEM version so i loose the ability to customise the desktop and have a water mark - no big deals i have been using it that was for 4 years Regards George
@EdwardWongHauPepeluTivruskyIV.
The rx6400 is also really good
@flibber123
@flibber123 Год назад
I would highly recommend that anyone who plans to get an old office computer for this purpose gets a model that uses a standard power supply. Certain models, and certain form factors like SFF, use proprietary supplies and it isn't worth it. It limits your choices. I noticed that Cyberpunk was CPU limited. That's not good. It looks like that game is an indication of what upcoming games are going to need, and this i7 6700 is already too slow.
@hueman69420
@hueman69420 Год назад
thats a no bs solid budget gaming pc, if only prices for dell optiplexes were similar in my country, the best i can get in $100 is i5 4th gen optiplex
@ezecskornfan
@ezecskornfan Год назад
HEre in 3rd world, budget is everything. Reliability is close second, because you want to put togheter something that will last. Great video with an even better full disclosure of the risks.
@forest9000wry
@forest9000wry Год назад
currently doing the same build is 75$ cheaper. The optiplexes and gpus are a lil cheaper on used market rn. some gpus are higher than what he spent.
@Darkside-ps4bv
@Darkside-ps4bv Год назад
You can get a different dell PSU that has a six pin for the 1650 super.
@HyperSonic1999orJTH
@HyperSonic1999orJTH Год назад
You make a good point on the aging parts in these systems, I never thought about that.
@RuruFIN
@RuruFIN Год назад
In fact the 10th gen are still Skylake architecture despite being called Comet Lake. It has (the i3-10100) also 2MB less cache than a 6700. Otherwise they have identical performance if compared clock to clock.
@frogslayer4849
@frogslayer4849 Год назад
The stock 240 PSU in my OptiPlex 3050 powers the i5 7500, 16gb ram, 1tb m.2, and 1660 Ti with the sata to pcie 6 pin adapter. If i overclock the GPU too much i can trip the power supply but running 200mhz over on the gpu and 1000mhz overclock on the gpu memory runs all day no problem.
@csh9853
@csh9853 Год назад
yes worth the risk. ive been using a optiplex 3010 i5 for 3 years and have upgraded the gpu,memory, and ps.still running good. im gonna build one soon but the dell works for now.
@CoalitionGaming
@CoalitionGaming Год назад
I like hopped up prebuilts...especially HP Z workstations :))))
@DKaldes
@DKaldes Год назад
it's crazy that cheap optiplexes now come with an i7 6700, my pc still runs this cpu!, I bought it back in 2016 in a pre built pavillion system for only 200$ which was less than the price of the cpu of the time. Btw this CPU is still great, I am running it with an RTX 2060 which is getting a bit bottlenecked is some games but over all they're a great combination
@FUZZYNU7SX
@FUZZYNU7SX Год назад
Just bought a 7050 i5 7500 and this video has been perfect for me!
@BigSchu22
@BigSchu22 Год назад
I have a surplus 1070ti and a 2060 I want to use in some budget gaming builds for my kids, but all these small form factor office PCs aren't gonna cut it, I don't want to have to buy new low profile cards. I also have some extra evga PSUs I wanted to use. All the full tower old office PCs have jacked up prices on ebay because of Linus and others too. Hmmm, what to do... I was trying to avoid two fully new builds for them.
@kalliste23
@kalliste23 Год назад
Be more interesting if you took a hacksaw and a dremel to the case to fit a cheap 500W ATX PSU and whatever adaptor cables that needs.
@nicholasgeorge6367
@nicholasgeorge6367 Год назад
I sold an i7 7700 for 200 USD dollar to a guy who wanted some low gaming. i just smile when he.
@JSTMelon
@JSTMelon Год назад
I would get it to be cheap like around 200-250 dollars with a rx 580, rx480 rx570 or a gtx 1650 nonsuper, a gtx 970 or sum other gpu
@zeroturn7091
@zeroturn7091 Год назад
It depends, if it can take an XPS 8940 PSU it’s still in play as a midrange gaming PC. I wouldn’t go beyond a 3060Ti or 6600 though. These would shine as non-Windows PCs
@rossdixon5050
@rossdixon5050 Год назад
problem is in NZ these are like triple the price or more in our local markets, so not really great value unless you can get them at the US price.
@iSamYTBackup
@iSamYTBackup Год назад
in romania they would ask like $300 hust for the optiplex
@AlexHusTech
@AlexHusTech Год назад
I need to sell mine there!
@andystech101
@andystech101 Год назад
You can always undervolt the gpu as well which would take 20w off the system load 👌🏼
@virgilwalker683
@virgilwalker683 Год назад
why didn't you custom flashed the bios in that dell PC?? You could of unlocked it all
@storytimeme4121
@storytimeme4121 Год назад
in india its about 360 usd with gtx 1650 {new} , its better to get i 3 12100f build which costs around 400 usd
@HEMIJackking
@HEMIJackking Год назад
weird. the i7 6700 supposed to be a faster cpu than an fx-8370. i used it with an rx 580 which is once again supposed to be a bit slower than a 1650 super, and with a balanced fsr in 1080 low settings, it ran 55-60fps in cp2077
@nerdonabudget
@nerdonabudget Год назад
You used the built in benchmark, or actual in game? Cyberpunk benchmark vs in game are different, and even within game, many areas have different performance results, I chose a heavily congested area to show worst case scenario
@mesetaplays
@mesetaplays Год назад
Ok but that merch is SICK
@studyaccount207
@studyaccount207 Год назад
that hoodie is actually well designed
@SlyStarling
@SlyStarling Год назад
Whats funny is that you never mentioned the gtx 1650 as some of those actually do not require any PSU power, it draws 75w from the pcie express slot which makes it a great card for budget users
@nerdonabudget
@nerdonabudget Год назад
This is true! 1650 and a handful of other cards can run through the pcie slot alone, just depends on what comes up in local used listings, it varies wildly from place to place and I just picked what I felt was the most powerful option without needing to completely replace the PSU
@SlyStarling
@SlyStarling Год назад
@@nerdonabudget Ah I gotcha. Just thought I'd bring up just in case you may have forgot.
@jean-claudejosselin187
@jean-claudejosselin187 Год назад
same idea, but i swapped the whole interior. now, b450+4650G ryzen 16 go ddr4, 1650 super, 550W+ bronze. 1650 super is a fantastic card. greetings 😉
@daytimerocker3808
@daytimerocker3808 Год назад
so ur just using a dell case?
@jean-claudejosselin187
@jean-claudejosselin187 Год назад
@@daytimerocker3808 🤪 not planning to. but ended like this. the common thing being the 1650 super .......lol had the luck to plug and play almost anything, but its not always that easy with office pc's
@matthewthompson7012
@matthewthompson7012 Год назад
Nice video! Great presentation and covering render scales. People usually think 1440 is similar to 1080, not knowing that 1440 is 78% richer. Keep it 💯 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@kermitthegaminghermit8736
@kermitthegaminghermit8736 Год назад
Fascinating video. In theory, couldn't you slap in another power supply that could be dedicated to the GPU? Perhaps it is a noob question. I am not a fan of those proprietary power supplies.
@AlmostBrokeLbs
@AlmostBrokeLbs Год назад
I have i7 4790 with gtx 1080, I want better one but optiplexes with decent cpus are 200-400$
@andrewkamoha4666
@andrewkamoha4666 Год назад
1:43 *Intel i7-6700 @ 3.40GHz | 8GB Ram | US$ 69.99* Am I missing something here? Intel i7 for $70 ?!?!?!?!?
@mastershakelock
@mastershakelock Год назад
they don't come up very often.. he got lucky.. avg price around $150 now.
@eminent_fatalis5535
@eminent_fatalis5535 Год назад
i have a 1800 dollr pc and it still got decent amounts of stutters like that
@pjohnson21211
@pjohnson21211 Год назад
best nugget of advice is here.....don't sink a lot of $$$ into what was meant to be a cheap build/solution 😃
@samuelswenson1505
@samuelswenson1505 Год назад
True. I just run it until it breaks. Overclock gpu to max. Run fans on max ect. Probably underclock vram tp reduce stuttering.
@mikeclark4480
@mikeclark4480 Год назад
I love these builds if not for anything but the emulation performance. New sub here
@WhyNoR9
@WhyNoR9 Год назад
im pretty sure the fortnite stuttering is due to single channel memory ive heard fn does not like single channel ram
@DJNightcoreHD
@DJNightcoreHD Год назад
It isn't worth doing all that work when you can build the gaming desktop you've always wanted which will last you 5 years or more for around 2 to 3 grand.
@johnnieduke95
@johnnieduke95 Год назад
Maybe you can help my situation ive got a optiplex 3010SFF with a i5 3470 CPU, 4GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB HDD and an nvidia gt 1030 low profile graphics card. Today actually should have an i7 3770 CPU arriving today and plan on adding a 500GB SSD, 2TB HDD and 16GB DDR3 RAM plan on adding these either today or tomorrow after work. i was gonna get a full form version of optiplex tower of some kind however the last 2 days been leaning towards an actual case and large case with lots of fans and a large motherboard of some sort having learned of the difficulties of upgrading. Should i just stick with my 3010SFF and these upgrades until i can piece together a custom case? All i have to play and plan on playing is elder scrolls 3 4 5, fallout 3 4 NV, and eventually the borderlands series but i dont even own those so not worried about those. i can only play ES3 and ES4 right now even though i well above minimum requirements for fallout 3 and NV unable to fix those crashes yet with my knowledge but i know it can be done even though those are known problem games on newer hardware. suprised a little bit this pc from 2011-2012 cant even run them even meeting requirements my crashes are a possible memory issue is my guess even though they only need 1-2GB RAM for fallout 3 and NV. i probably shouldnt waste more money on optiplexs though i take it from several videos ive seen i think yours has been easiest to understand, i think lol
@krisdzons
@krisdzons 9 месяцев назад
There is GTX 1650 TUF GDDR6 with no PCIe power
@LawrenceQue-nk3mi
@LawrenceQue-nk3mi Год назад
what operating system you used for the optiplex 7040?
@SuperHotwheels19
@SuperHotwheels19 Год назад
Thank you for this video so much! This vid saved my mind from thinking too much about putting a gtx 1650 in an optiplex while using a sata to 6 pin adapter. I just have two questions, first is that if I used a adapter with 2 sata power to a single 6 pin, would it help or would it be useless and will you be doing a video about putting an sfx psu inside the optiplex with a 24 pin adapter?
@why_though
@why_though Год назад
the cost of the whole thing is about double in the EU...
@waffle_the_axolotl
@waffle_the_axolotl Год назад
Holy crap! Saw one of these on Facebook marketplace for 100 bucks, wanted a gaming PC for forever because my nintendo switch just isn't cutting it. So any idea on how well it would run some games like Ark, CS:GO, Skyrim, FarCry, etc... plus VR compatibility? I'm a programmer not a hardware guy y'know?
@Ant_105
@Ant_105 Год назад
Nice build for a childs first pc maybe
@rufusade4294
@rufusade4294 Год назад
Will Evga 1080ti fit in this case and can you change from stock psu
@KingSteven77
@KingSteven77 Год назад
That's a decent computer for the price
@timnes1640
@timnes1640 Год назад
use 2 slots also
@fiddlermuncher8701
@fiddlermuncher8701 Год назад
Great build man. Built a few identical builds for customers
@ethan004
@ethan004 Год назад
Who in their right mind buys a $1000 GPU then cheapskates on a PSU with an adapter like Bruh wtf!?
@jordanlovett9445
@jordanlovett9445 7 месяцев назад
not gonna lie you could of got a better build for cheaper i spent 190 pounds on my dell optiplex 3020 with a i7 4790 a radeon rx 580 8gb an ssd and 16gb of hyper fury ram with the standard power supply
@jamessolibio9219
@jamessolibio9219 Год назад
The stutter for fortnite, I had the same issue and I went from 8gb to 16gb Ram and the stutter went away.
@riseabove3082
@riseabove3082 Год назад
not for me. I have an i7-9700, 16GB ram, 1TB m.2 SSD, GTX 1660 Super. still get stutter in Fortnite. Not often but still annoying.
@j.w.grayson6937
@j.w.grayson6937 Год назад
Excellent job on this video!
@JasonWitmerYT
@JasonWitmerYT Год назад
Thanks for educating people on that Sata adaptor. I hate that everyone assumes every PSU and adaptor are going to explode at every opportunity.
@Omar2KYT
@Omar2KYT Год назад
@jason witmer is this good for streaming ?
@avtips4779
@avtips4779 Год назад
Molex to SATA... lose your data
@JamesSmith-sw3nk
@JamesSmith-sw3nk Год назад
Good video. For around the same money, maybe a little more, I would get a HP Z440 PC instead. It has a LOT of upgrade potential. The compatible cpu list goes from a 4c/8t cpu to a 22c/44t cpu. It comes with more powerful psu's too.
@RonLarhz
@RonLarhz Год назад
😱😱😱
@angelesc2033
@angelesc2033 Год назад
@@RonLarhz lund 😱😱😱😱😱
@ThailandDantotherescue
@ThailandDantotherescue Год назад
There really is no downside as far as I am concerned. Great video, I know there are thousands of these, but we need a thousand more. I was doing this when the best gpu you could add in was a gtx 750ti. My current system is a HP with a 1st get Ryzen 7 and 16g ram. I got it for 100$ with no video card. The computer had never been turned on. It was bought as a black friday special in bulk by someone who removed the GPUs for bitcoin mining. Due to its even jankier PSU I opted for a gtx 1650 non super, but it was at least the DDR5 model. I get very close to the same gaming performance. All I added was the GPU and a 120g ssd boot drive I got used on ebay for under 20 dollars shipped. I have owned computers since before the commodore 64. 4k gaming or even 1080p gaming means nothing to me. 720p medium settings is way better than an old guy like me needs or deserves. I have a Acer swift x with an rtx 3050 but honestly I prefer being at home with my cheap system hooked up to my 65 inch TV. You just can not beat these deals! Its great to see a young generation spending wisely instead of some 4000 dollar water cooled LED covered monstrosity that ends up being more trouble than its worth.
@atvstudios.
@atvstudios. Год назад
Well said mate
@aaronhess7635
@aaronhess7635 Год назад
There is some models of the non-super 1650 that don't need any external power from a pci power cable. Perfect for this build.
@tvold9204
@tvold9204 6 месяцев назад
I just bought one with an I7-4790 16gb ram and a gtx 1050ti with pci power. We will see how good it is!
@PVTParts472
@PVTParts472 5 месяцев назад
@@tvold9204 i dont think the 1050ti needs a pci power cable?
@tvold9204
@tvold9204 5 месяцев назад
@@PVTParts472 it powers thru the pci-e slot
@PVTParts472
@PVTParts472 5 месяцев назад
@@tvold9204 i know i have one, for some reason i thought you meant a power cable, not power through the mb
@tvold9204
@tvold9204 5 месяцев назад
@@PVTParts472 nah thats what I meant I have one too
@Dingbat1967
@Dingbat1967 Год назад
During the GPUpocalypse, a build like this I feel would've been a good workaround (albeit you'd probably throw in a GTX 1650 non super due to pricing being so out of whack). Nowadays with the prices back to Normal, I think you're better off building an AM4-based build ... for maybe 150$ extra, you would have a modernish build with expandability. You can get motherboard/cpu combos pretty cheap these days (think Ryzen 3 3100) with a B450 from say, amazon warehouse deals and a conventional PSU, would give you overall better results.
@Huskmini
@Huskmini Год назад
what are the amazon warehouse deals? are you talking about price cuts on amazon or is there something else? i hear multiple tech youtubers mention it
@Dingbat1967
@Dingbat1967 Год назад
@@Huskmini They are usually fully functional returns to the warehouse you can get for much cheaper than brand new. They are usually tested/inspected before being sold.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench Год назад
The 1650 was $300+ at the time. Nothing made sense TBH, not even these systems.
@Dingbat1967
@Dingbat1967 Год назад
@@TheGameBench You're still alive! Cool, miss your youtube shows about the Optiplexi's... nice to see you.
@nashcomp
@nashcomp Год назад
Somehow amds board seems vurnerable and broke easily after 1/years use
@Nick_R_
@Nick_R_ Год назад
Outstanding video. And I learned something new regarding presets that use resolution scaling by default. The current draw data split between your sources was fascinating too.
@mikigameplays
@mikigameplays Год назад
I love office pc usually with around 100$ or so you can usually get some good i7 like 6 or 7 generation , which will be just fine for even all-new AAA games, usually you just have to buy a graphic card that's it , in most office pc today they come even with 16gb of ram, so yea Really good if you want just a home PC to play games but you don't care to play on max settings or you don't care for 4 like 4k etc ... All this pc are fine or 1080p gaming my friend got simular PC, but I think he had inside gtx 1050ti or like that,something like that with I think some i7 6gen, and still even today he is playing new games just fine on 1080p 60 fps If you don't have mutch money ,this is a great deal, and over time you can save maybe to buy a proper gaming pc
@elemkay5104
@elemkay5104 Год назад
Nice one. Worth pointing out that the i5 6500 or 6600 are also pretty much as capable, but also, if you find a i3-8100 or i3-9100, you get similar Quad Core performance AND an upgrade path to the 6 core i5s (8400, 8500, 9400, 9500) in the future. Just seen an i3 8100 PC for £100 on ebay, so not too much more money.
@psttech4290
@psttech4290 Год назад
6500/6600 are lacking behind the 6700 now, those extra threads on the i7 help a lot
@narwhal4304
@narwhal4304 Год назад
4c/4t CPUs are frankly not cutting it in new titles anymore. New games need at least 8 threads to run smooth.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench Год назад
I agree with a lot of your conclusions. People are nuts paying what they're asking for i7 7700's still. However, I don't nessisarily agree that people should probably just build a $500 i3 10100 build instead. There are cases where the 6700 will be faster, because there are games that are more cache dependent and the 10100 and 10105 are down 2MB of cache over the 6700. I've seen people say that there was no perf gain to 10th Gen over the 4th or even 3rd Gen i7's, citing benchmarks... and this was likely the reason. So, the 6700 could be a better value depending on the games you play. And really, some people are so tight on budget they can't afford to pay double to build something with similar, to worse performance... despite having an actual upgrade path. Especially right now, and economic conditions are only going to get worse.
@pwn0grapher
@pwn0grapher Год назад
These are great budget builds to get someone by in a tight spot or someone who just doesn't use their PC for anything much more than standard 1080p games. I actually prefer the Dell Precision 3620 because they essentially have all the same internals with more space for a bigger card, vent holes on the side to help with thermal throttling and a bigger 365W PSU with a PCI-e slot for about the same price if you look long enough. The two problems I have found with these are the graphics cards not being secured enough by the plastic tab can cause flickering if you push in your HDMI cable hard or the card jiggles loose. The second being the market for "ugly duckling" Dell cases is very specific and you can sit on that hardware for months if you don't put some blingy RGB to grab someone's attention.
@MohammadNomaan
@MohammadNomaan Год назад
Hi there, nice video For a 1650 4gb Ddr6 version gpu, do u think the dell 7040/7050 psu will be able to perform similarly?
@pwn0grapher
@pwn0grapher Год назад
@@MohammadNomaan The performance on that card would be similar with slightly less frame rates, but no PCIe power adapter is required like this video.
@boballmendinger3799
@boballmendinger3799 Год назад
This is a very interesting video, but what stands out to me is the excellent production quality. The audio is clear, non fatiguing, and intelligible, with the PERFECT level of background music.
@AndrewsVideoTips143
@AndrewsVideoTips143 Год назад
Dude you got an amazing deal on that thing. My 2 year old laptop has a i7 9750h, 16 gb of ddr4 ram, 500 gb nvme ssd, and a 1660ti (max q version), and that costed $1200 2 years ago. You scored a pc that's just as fast as mine for under $300. That's insane.
@iihamed711
@iihamed711 Год назад
what laptop is that?
@k9burnouts544
@k9burnouts544 Год назад
My optiplex has a i7, 32Gb Ram, and a MSI OC edtition 6gb, I built 2 of them for around $440. 2 gaming pcs for less than 500 cant beat it
@josephhall7317
@josephhall7317 Год назад
I found a Samsung galaxy book go 5g new for $225, and all I have to do is put about another 150 into it and I'll have a very slim laptop that takes a sim card and can play almost anything for $375 total. Just my opinion but I'd never spend over what an Xbox costs on a laptop for gaming but to each their own
@funnythingunleashed
@funnythingunleashed Год назад
Dell G3?
@AndrewsVideoTips143
@AndrewsVideoTips143 Год назад
@@funnythingunleashed Yes
@johnDingoFoxVelocity
@johnDingoFoxVelocity Год назад
You can also just pay 132.00 and get a 6 core zeon t3600 that runs windows 11 and 10
@rmgaminguk7079
@rmgaminguk7079 Год назад
Really good overview showing the pros and cons. I prefer the hp Prodesk mid towers because you can swap the PSU so you don't need a pcie adapter. However they tend to have slimline dvd drives so you need an adapter for the dvd drive which tends to have a smaller sata power connector. I think for under $400 / £400 you have to consider the prebuilt upgrade route. Regarding reliability they CPU have probably been under less stress as they tend to only do light office work, but you make an excellent point about getting replacement parts.
@darthwiizius
@darthwiizius Год назад
CPU's barely burned in running office tasks. Even the one stick of RAM acts as an effective limiter on the system. I'd probably (maybe) just a rig a PSU up from outside the case but there's probably no point going nuts because I doubt the PCB could take much of a hammering anyway.
@nevernicemeadow
@nevernicemeadow Год назад
no one needs optical drives anyways
@rmgaminguk7079
@rmgaminguk7079 Год назад
@@nevernicemeadow However having to put things in your ad about stuff not working puts doubts in the mind of those looking to buy. These are likely not that tech savvy otherwise they'd be building their own. The adapter to make the drive work will pay for itself by not having to put negative statements in the ad.
@ReadyPlayerPoet
@ReadyPlayerPoet Год назад
I have watched dozens and dozens of videos about the optiplex because like many I'm on a very tight budget. You were so thorough with your explanations about your testing and the potential pitfalls. Great job. Big tick and subscribe from me. As to your final question, I do think they are probably worth the risk. So much so, in fact, that I've bit the bullet and ordered a slightly refurbed 9020 in an MT case, with an i7 4790 3.6ghz and 16gb ram. They've even installed Win 10 Pro on a 120 gb SSD and popped a 1 tb HD (which I probably won't be using) in with it. All for £129. I'm looking at the GTX1650 option as I don't feel comfortable with using the connectors and having any power risks I think. And when I can, I think an NVMe PCIe adaptor card with 1TB m.2 drive should complete the setup nicely. Looking forward to getting the unit and trying it all out.
@ysoserious8526
@ysoserious8526 Год назад
Just get a nice 1050ti. This card is great. It only soaks out 75W and most of the models don't even have a separate power connection, because they get all the power that is needed from the PCIe Slot of the board. They have a bit less power than the 1650 maybe but the same VRAM (4GB). THe Asus Cerberus is a really nice one, becaus the card even has a backplate which most of the other custom models don't have. I have a Gigabyte Geforce GTX 1050ti OC and it is a pretty neat card and perfect for builds likethis.
@ReadyPlayerPoet
@ReadyPlayerPoet Год назад
@@ysoserious8526 I have the 1650 and it too only uses 75W or 8w at idle, and it's proving to be a great card tbh. Running all sorts of games that I hadn't thought would be possible. Even some in 4k with good FPS (for me anyway). So I'm pretty darn happy with the set up. Glad to hear your 1050ti is working out for you too.
@Komandie
@Komandie Год назад
@@ReadyPlayerPoet Have you tried World of Warcraft on this system?
@ReadyPlayerPoet
@ReadyPlayerPoet Год назад
@@Komandie afraid not. Not a game I play.
@nickcoyomani
@nickcoyomani Год назад
fortnite just started using unreal engine 5.1 with the new season and that fixed the stuttering issue
@stock1870
@stock1870 Год назад
That’s good I have been getting lots of stutters
@aurelioramos9624
@aurelioramos9624 Год назад
I threw a seasonic gx750 and a 980ti in a dell 3020 MT with an i7 4790k and it worked. I was able to play every game i threw at it with limitations of course. With that said i still wouldnt recommend it. Cons include heat issues(had to keep the side panel off), my ram couldnt run at its top speed, the motherboard itself can't utilize the equipment in it to its fullest. i was missing a good amount of performance like 20%. And there isnt alot of space or anywhere to put the wires so they were just laying anywhere they can fit and i like my inside to be nice and clean. So i ended up getting an z390 motherboard with an i9 9900k cpu and a case. So yeah ended up building my own pc which cost like double the price but it was worth it to me. Not the most powerful but definitely no slouch
@FSK1138
@FSK1138 Год назад
these builds are not worth it , spend $100 or $200 more and buy something new if your happy with this then a ryzen 3or5 with a upgrade path should be just fine this has no resale value
@jayt6
@jayt6 Год назад
Can you please build me a pc my budget is 600 I’ve been saving for awhile
@tylerbanks17
@tylerbanks17 Год назад
With Fortnite, I’ve found that on my Intel systems it has issues with 8GB ram, always stutters and terrible frame rates unless it was on performance mode with 100 resolution scaling, medium render distance, high textures, fps capped to 120fps On my AMD systems I never had this issue even with 8gb ram, on performance mode or regular DX11-12.
@AAjax
@AAjax Год назад
There's no shame in starting with prebuilts, but when the budget allows you should bite the bullet and save up enough for a standard case and decent power-supply, and stick whatever the budget allows in them. Those are investment pieces, and if you don't cheap out too much, you'll be able to upgrade later without having to re-buy them. So you save money in the long term, if you wind up upgrading. The exception to that would be if you're buying new xl high-end space-heater GPUs, in which case you have more than enough money to rebuy all of that stuff anyway.
@fwiw9954
@fwiw9954 Год назад
Is there a doc or some other tool to check compatibility on these optiolex builds? I have a spare gtx 1050ti laying around, and I'm wondering if this optiolex or others would work with it.
@NemusDark
@NemusDark Год назад
Yes
@killerpayne1997
@killerpayne1997 Год назад
My first pc was a dell Inspiron that my mom got from her job . Me an my brother said up for gtx 1050 low pf Best little i5 pc I started with .
@thejimmichanga2913
@thejimmichanga2913 Год назад
I use the 5040 platform a good bit for pc flips. I throw in a 2nd stick of memory in, a cheap nvme like the crucial p3, and a 1050ti or 1650 and sell them locally. Generally only try to make $100-$150 on each build depending on how cheap I get it together for. I'm able to undercut any oem low-end gaming pc at similar spec by a couple hundred. Sure the draw back is its 3 or for gens behind, but still plays any modern game and your saving $200-$250 which is huge these days for a lot of people. Most of these low end oem gaming builds have little to no upgrade path anyways either seeing how their mostly proprietary parts so the cons in these optiplex builds also carry over to these low end oem gaming pc rigs as well.
@Itmee1974
@Itmee1974 Год назад
I JUST BUILD GAMING PC FOR $ 275 I BUY A USE HP ELITE 800 GI WITH INTEL I5 ALL I ADD IS 500MB SSD CARD , 16 GB RAM,INVIDIA 1030 2G LOW PROFILE AND I CAN PLAY CALL OF DUTY ON 1080P.
@devisals
@devisals Год назад
Bro fortnite doesn't run ideal on my 3070 system either. It used to be so well optimized in 2018, but now it runs like pubg in 2018.
@nerdonabudget
@nerdonabudget Год назад
Yup, I've experienced that same thing even on higher end systems like yours, it's bad
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