$30 vs $500 Sound Panels - Is There Any Difference?

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How much of a difference does hanging acoustic treatment actually make to your sound? In this video, we test out Elgato's new Wave Panels and compare them to some $30 and $500 options to see what difference they actually make.
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@GamingCareers 3 года назад

What are your thoughts on Elgato's new wave panels? Worth it? Overpriced? Nice looking? Ugly? Let me know 👇

@nitchgamingstudios 3 года назад

DISCORD GANG!!! 🤟🤟 @GamingCareers

@FnMoses 3 года назад

the jump from 6-12 was noticeable and if u have a bigger room defo worth the investment into 12

@CreoVox 3 года назад

I didnt really see a difference with Elgato panels, but the GIK I liked and would spend the extra money for them vs amazon/elgato. Great video man!

@stpwadds 3 года назад

@gaming Careers, how do you make your face cam look so soft? my A5100 is awesome but too detailed showing every nook and cranny on my skin :(. I'm using 2 Elgato Keylights, one high above to the left and another to the right, now facing into the wall. Have tried for days but never get that soft look

@Enchurito 2 года назад

I found the Elgato panels in most cases barely made any difference. I would rank them GIK, cheap panels, and then the elgato as they were BARELY better than having nothing at all. Definitely not worth it, at least from this test.

@Chisgule 3 года назад

Great video - my takeaway was that 95% or more of the battle is just having a solid mic close to your mouth

@piratetech3722 3 года назад

and this is why people waste hundreds on treatment and come away unsatisfied. I good dynamic microphone will help prevent sound from bouncing around. Doesn't mean treatment doesn't help, but when you have a mic with a noisy preamp like the one on your camera hunting for any noise.... any noise is what it's going to find

@whiskeylung 3 года назад

Also - not surprisingly 12 cheap acoustic panels sparsely spread out on the wall doesn't make much of a difference but also doesn't make much difference between 12 cheap acoustic panels and 12 expensive acoustic panels. My experience is that if you cover nearly an entire wall you will get a minor improvement that may or may not be worth it to you. I would never pay $500 for sound treatment panels in my current situation but I would build them for $25 a pop using some cheap lumber, cheap material and some towels.

@GamingCareers 3 года назад

Yeah, absolutely, even more so if you go with a dynamic microphone. Microphone placement and technique can get you a long long way!

@JunkBondTrader 3 года назад

@@piratetech3722 True that! Get a sm58 and a quiet interface and that's 90% of the battle in a small room. Extremely unidirectional. And, it sounds pretty good! People always getting super sensitive condensers because they hear that they are better. In a perfect world, yeah. But you'd be in a studio also. You can hear every fan, every car, every reflection, every mouth click in a tiny room. Behringer interfaces have low noise floors, quiet preamps. Bam, you almost maximize your sound quality in a shit room with a $250 budget. You're better off just going simple in a shitty room and then putting the rest of your energy into making music. Those mini vocal booths aren't too bad either. They will cut out a bit of reflection, and not too expensive. No setup...

@Nonx47 3 года назад

@@piratetech3722 a microphone doesn't prevent sound from bouncing around.

@kyleheilig255 3 года назад

And the winner is...a good dynamic mic:)

@arriagatwo777 3 года назад

You are rigt! I don't hear any difference at all between a bear wall and a fancy 500 euros panel, which is weird because how dp you justify such a waste of money.

@pedrosilvamusician 2 года назад

@Sash Campbell yeah but these guys just want for livestreams and such. You wouldn't buy cheap amazon pads and stuff like that if you're mixing. You would invest a bit more. And the dude here bought 6 panels and he's using them incorrectly, having put 2 or 3 panels right in front of him. If he wanted to mix he would have to place them in a different way

@AndrewBolo 2 года назад

@@pedrosilvamusician To some extent, yeah. But we do have to keep in mind most streamers have some filter plugins for their audio such as "audio compression" which can turn up the volume of the room noise.

@co-null5599 2 года назад

@Pedro Silva why? The panels are supposed to face in front, any other direction and sound frequency loses

@abalorias333 2 года назад

If you have good acoustics in the room you can speak a bit farther from the mic which is convenient for comfort. So even having a good mic, acoustics will help for that 😁

@drdhruvagulur 2 года назад

Man! I wanted to take a moment to appreciate all the RU-vidrs that takes so much time into making these videos for us to help us with our passion while you show us your passions

@YourDriverMike 2 года назад

I think you just sold me on the GIK panels, huge difference. I've also used the cheap Amazon panels in the past and they do help but as a fellow full-time creator my new apartment needs a more pro treatment. The GIK mounting is also more minimal versus other pro options. Also pairing with the Shure SM7B as well. Awesome job!

@AssassinRockxz 3 года назад

Huh. I was actually looking for some ideals for my new setup too. Gonna look into these. Good job man

@manugarcia3578 3 года назад

I've built my panels myself with a wood frame and combination of stone wool and foam panels 4 inches thick all in all. For sound absorption, the thicker the better.

@dae8894 2 года назад

do they also help with insulation with the wool? i live with a lot of roommates and am trying to keep noise out of my room

@manugarcia3578 2 года назад

@@dae8894 Not really. They only prevent the sound inside from bouncing all over the walls. If you want to insulate the sound from outside, you need to completely cover all the surfaces of the room.

@dae8894 2 года назад

@@manugarcia3578 damn okay thank for the help

@TijuanaJackson 11 месяцев назад

Now this is how to create evergreen content! Nice work! You’ve also inspired the background lighting for my studio.

@senpaitriton 3 года назад

The testing cracked me up a bit. Amazing video, going to look into this for the future

@hobbledragon5738 3 года назад

Thank you for the vid. Was wondering about this after seeing the announcement. Glad first vid I saw was yours.

@Blackout987 2 года назад

The sound insulation vs the sound absorbtion information was golden, thanks a lot!

@LukasZ92. 10 месяцев назад

the GIK sounds by far the best... even at the low quallity microphone you really hear a difference there. But not only the affect is the most strength, but it also sounds the most natural to me

@Lilrockerdude13 3 года назад

Excellent video, just moved into a new house and it echoes crazy good in there. Definitely going to need to work on our setups and get some proper treatment done for both stations

@TitanPlayz 3 года назад

Just placed an order for these. Going to use in my next stream! Thanks!

@BrentInvesting 3 года назад

Did you buy the Elgato? I was thinking of picking up 12, vs using panels.

@Vivii610 3 года назад

I noticed no difference except with GIK panels but not verry affordable when solutions exist like using a towel acoustic pannel costing less than100$ to make a whole wall ... Nice tests tho

@sanchezvalentine8416 6 месяцев назад

This video taught me so much bro thank you‼️

@TheJ3Boys 3 года назад

With the "cheaper foam" option, if you were to lay it on cardboard anyway, could you put a layer of foam down first like warbla and then glue/attach the pyramid foam on top?

@EqDior 8 месяцев назад

Very awesome demo here. Just a side note, what we have to keep in mind though is that we are comparing $24 setup vs a $200 setup and possibly a $500 plus setup. You should do a video to even the odds meaning spend the same amount on each sound treatment and then see what the results are.

@deisumus1 3 года назад

12:08 "that looks like an upside down heart" Riiiight. I'll just pretend that shape didn't make me think of a big butt. XD

@39zack 3 года назад

BUTT!!

@BeardedTechGuy 3 года назад

I used poster command strips right on the foam panels from amazon and they have held up well so far (3ish months so far) as well

@FooGaZiii 3 года назад

Great content, do you have a video that helps with background noise that goes to the mic? I have a yeti mic and it seems it picks up every sound

@Sua1214 Год назад

This video is amazing, bro gave me more than I needed

@Japhex 3 года назад

Great video! RE: mounting, I have the cheap amazon option as a low key streamer, I do intend to upgrade, but the way I mounted them was almost exactly the same. I used gorilla selotape, 2 tiny bits per panel and then mounted all the panels to a large piece of cardboard, then command strips. Works really well!

@GamingCareers 3 года назад

Great choice, I can't describe quite how painful of an experience it was removing them when I directly stuck them to my wall in my old studio!

@jackchaplin 3 года назад

love the vids and prodcast

@geekiejesus8482 3 года назад

There's a couple of DIY channels (might be DIY perks) that shows you how to make your own to suit your budget. The Elgato options look like a really good option though.

@timothyhess1908 3 года назад

Very well done. As a professional broadcaster all I can say is you get out of it what you put into it much like everything else when it comes to sound absorption.

@stephenzzz 3 года назад

What mic did you use to record this video?

@Leggenda88 3 года назад

The link of Wave panels is not right. Is not in sell for now?

@tyarenas 2 года назад

thanks for making this video!

@DrOrion 2 года назад

Can you please write or link to those wall strips you recommended to protect the wall?

@danieltanhengsheng 2 года назад

Hey, May I know What is the type of fabric you are using for the rockwool acoustic panel?

@tommiii4542 Год назад

I just want to talk to my friends on xbox without my parents hearing😭

@neilmusician1143 2 года назад

which DSLR are you using to record this video? Which lens? seems very good quality video.

@simonedwards7101 Год назад

Hi, Out of interest, what's the distance from the back of your desk to the wall? And does that distance make a difference? In front of me is 2.5m gap and behind me is 2m. To my left is 1m and to my right is 4.5m.

@umpus 2 года назад

Does it make any difference if you stick the panels behind your monitor? Doesn't the sound bounce off the screen before it hits the wall?

@byronw641 Год назад

Great video, thanks!

@GTX970TI 2 года назад

Can I ask what light source your using for the RGB background ?

@rowegardner9673 Год назад

GIK Acoustics are simply unmatched. Amazing brand. Their impressions series diffuser/absorber panels are dope and actually look really cool. They make a hugeee difference in my room.

@Sillyboy-to3uf 3 года назад

Can you put a poster or tapestry in front of the panels or would that just defeat the purpose?

@RyanxWest Месяц назад

i have a nueman tml 103 and its a really solid microphone but picks up so much noise. especially since i just moved and have no sound treatment. i was wondering if a smb7 would be a better mic for me

@LookHere3 10 месяцев назад

can these be used to stop outside noise from coming into the room?

@MJBsor 3 года назад

Excellent comparison! I have made Rockwood panels myself, and I wondered how they compare to cheap foam and more expensive foam panels. What I noticed was those midrange foam panels deadened the sound a lot but none of the bass, so they made it sound like you were in a large deadened room. The gik panels were more natural sounding and sounded like you were in empty space, I may buy some for my next HT build.

@lamborghinicentenario2497 7 месяцев назад

aren't mineral wools dangerous to be in your bedroom though?

@Ghaleon 2 года назад

Anyone knows how this style of recording is done or what terms I could use to search for it? 12:49

@matthews.9343 2 года назад

What’s the name of the color of your gik panels?

@trinan5308 2 года назад

Great Video! (I love how high quality your production value is and you generally “rock” in front of the camera / are pretty comfortable there). Having said that, I feel like (and I don’t yet know because I haven’t pulled the trigger on ANY panels - but very interested in the Amazon or equivalent price wise), the Amazon ones could do an OK job IF you weren’t just covering a small piece of the wall - bit instead had covered the whole room. I guess ultimately I am looking on input as to how those do in a recording booth setup (so it may be unfair of me to criticize you for that as that is not the setup that you are going for). All in all great video - I just feel like (and like I said don’t yet have the personal experience) that the Amazon or similarly cheaper ones could probably fair OK or pretty well in a “recording booth” build/ environment. Having said that - still great video :)

@LustraGaming 3 года назад

I've actually been building my own panels last week. I'm just waiting for the fabric to cover them. They cost me a total of 120€ for 8 panels of 100 by 60 cm (about 39 by 23,5 inch) which isn't that bad. Spent about 9 hours building the frames, But I'm lazy by design and I don't have any powertools to assist me so I used a handsaw to cut all my pieces to size. Hopefully applying the fabric won't take this long :)

@MzCatieShorts 3 года назад

i got the cheap Amazon panels to get me through to when i move to a bigger place. Im gonna redo my studio audio setup when i move out but i know stepping up the Sound panels is gonna be a big +

@jaygaming_ 3 года назад

Which fabric was this GIk acoustic panels

@jenniewilliams1668 Месяц назад

Excellent, thanks!!!!!!

@BBPaws 3 года назад

The way that man put those sticky strips on the El Gato frames in the example...I can't 😂😅 3:56

@cb4j 3 года назад

Would you rather have the better ones that are twice as much.... Or twice as many of the Elgato ones? How would that sound comparison end up if you stacked to double the thickness of the elgatos?

@NekoUrabe 10 месяцев назад

I dont know if anyone will see this, but I planned on buying panels because I dont want the noise to leave my room or to at least not be as loud. What would you recommend for that?

@stevenspring9889 2 года назад

I work as a system admin for a high end media company amongst other things we have a studio that hosts professional studio work (Hollywood film, TV shows and voice work. I guess they do a layered sound dampening process in which the entire outer wall of the studio are dampened with the cheap panels bought in bulk, around the inner walls there are strategically placed "average" priced panels. Then they have sound dampening walls that are hand crafted to disperse noise as needed on a per shot basis. My point is there is no absolute winner of the three, they all have a purpose and when placed correctly do the intended job. Great Video. If you guys want to see the Studio in question its Spokane Productions.

@Ghaleon 2 года назад

Really nice video! I'm moving to a studio I'm building and I was planing to FULL a whole wall with those things. Not anymore I guess o.O

@B0sser 2 года назад

any tips on how to hang the foam panels?

@nimbusspacewagon 7 месяцев назад

Great video. Cheers.

@dalazyworf 2 года назад

I've been in the works of building my own foam panels using some scrap would we have and using them at the frames. Than getting solid acoustic foam pannels to act as the bottom of the full panel and sides, than using pyramid soft foam squares as the top of the panels. In total costing me about 150 for the foam and other supplies such as adhesive. But I like the DIY project since I get them the exact size I want.

@JuanPablodelaTorre 3 года назад

Clear nano tape is pretty good to stick the panels to painted walls without damaging them.

@danyelletauscher3827 3 года назад

Would you recommend putting some panels behind you or the main concern the reverberation off the wall in front?

@TjMoon91 2 года назад

Consider which way your microphone is facing. A cardioid microphone rejects sound from the back, so if the microphone is facing forward, the side and back walls are more important. If your microphone is facing you from an angle, you might want to experiment a bit. The angle of the microphone can be important though.

@otleycrew6670 2 года назад

Basically if you have a sm7b do you really need panels?

@StevePH 3 года назад

Genuine question. Would the panels work better if they were on the wall your mic is facing? I would assume there aren't going to do much for a cartioid pattern mic if they are behind it. The mic would be picking up reflection off the wall behind you the most I would think.

@mica4977 2 года назад

In case someone else is curious it's preferable to have panels on all walls & ceiling with the addition of a carpet but it's fair to just place them behind the mic (towards the place you're facing) and to your sides. When you project your voice outwards these will be the areas your voice makes contact with first before bouncing all over the place. Allowing them to absorb those sound-waves from the start means they'll be weaker and less able to bounce around the rest of the room even if those areas aren't treated. Also even tho condenser mics in carioid mode are meant to only pick things up from one direction it does not mean they're invulnerable to sound behind them (such as mouse clicks and typing sounds). It just sets a preferred sensitivity towards the front. This means that echo reflecting from in front of you and hitting the back of the mic will still be picked up and can still have an effect on the clarity of your voice.

@ParadoxGamingNetwork 3 года назад

I actually ended up going with a different option (although your acoustic panels are what I was looking at long term). I ended up hanging a noise reducing/black-out curtain on the wall I'm facing, and then put up decorative shower curtains (ironic right?) on the wall behind him.

@GamingCareers 3 года назад

Good choice! It's all about making improvements with what you can access. Those thick black-out curtains are great tools for both audio and making your lighting more consistent.

@HispleMedia 8 месяцев назад

My new office I intend to use as my studio hv 3 big windows and is close to the road... I don't know to handle the windows to reduce the noise from coming in and make the room sound great. This was a great video.

@scvrletfox 3 года назад

Thanks for info :3

@ZarktheShark94 2 года назад

So wats best, I’m just trying to stop sound coming thru walls. My wall is thin and I can hear sound coming thru the next room. Nd so can they

@yega3k 2 года назад

To me, the room sounds great already even without any treatment.

@tgmasterx 3 года назад

regardless of price and performance, they look *pretty* sick

@-Good4Y0u 2 года назад

What about the 2" thick ebay / Amazon panels?

@GabbyTech 3 года назад

you can make your own, melamine foam is also pretty good i had the pleasure to test vicoustic products they made different but price wise not cheap

@VespaFelipe 2 года назад

Good night, could you talk more about those lights behind you? I loved these 2 different colors

@PhuzzyBond 3 года назад

"I'll probably put my streaming rig in the middle of the living room here"

@stpwadds 3 года назад

@mossgrovewrites 3 года назад

This may be useless to you because I’ve never edited video specifically. But for photos it’s a matter of adjusting the clarity slider in post. Consider pro mist filters. There also seems to be a soft skin filter setting in the a5100 that popped up when I googled the lens filter.

@joediditde Год назад

so i got cold large walls, laminat flooring and a large glass window front i feel like im sitting in a goddamn church

@fossgoddess 2 года назад

I just put up insulated curtains over the windows that wrap around my workstation and added a folded blanket on my desk underneath where the mic hangs from the boom. World of difference.

@dadmybest_edc 3 года назад

Great video as always! I gotta tell you tho...that mouse on your desk without a mousepad gives me so much anxiety 😫

@globalmolecule 6 месяцев назад

Which RGB lights are you using for your background?

@joelfrom08 Год назад

Would it be worth it to install sound panels in every bit of your room, or is it just a waste of money and no good difference will be heard after like 12 panels?

@CarmellaNYC Год назад

If I put two panesl near my tv wall willl it block sound to my neighbors wall, as the room is open plan I can only mount tv on neighboring wall

@awispofwhite 3 года назад

Could I suggest that you do a voicemeeter basic setup/advanced?! :)

@wireditvideo 2 года назад

Greaat help!

@BlackapinoTheTechGuy 2 года назад

When I heard about the Wave Panels I thought $99 was kinda expensive and I was SERIOUSLY thinking of the Amazon way, but Glad I went with the Wave Panel as I have a Small Bed Room so I bought the 2-pack of the elgato wave panel and I'll be looking to get the 4 more of the expansion Packs and mount them too my Wall next to my other Panels.

@BlackapinoTheTechGuy 2 года назад

@Neon Thunderbird yes. You can 3M tape them or wall screw them in

@Lilshorts- 2 года назад

Hey my sons room is right next to mine was wondering if you could help me with some tips on what's the best way to go about making the noise coming from his from room quieter? Ty

@kristofaxelson5088 Год назад

Build a room within a room. Ensure that the walls, floor, and ceilings are decoupled.

@FuzzyM0nst3r 3 года назад

where can i get them for $100? there currently selling for £116 :o

@TheNerd 3 года назад

i just build myself a little tone cabin by buying some wood, putting it together and just putting it on my desk. the wood cost me like 100$ (80cm height, 1,7meters wide 80cm deep) + rockwool + cloth to prevent the rockwool getting into my lung. the rockwool is the same you use to build a house. usually rockwool gets used to build cinemas for example. it's a cheap and very noise dampening solution. the only downside i would say is the weight since i used wood. the construction weights about 50kgs. for my next build i would use some form of plastic that can hold the rockwool.

@freerider3434 3 года назад

PREM was such an amazing movie. Thank you!

@hi-dq4sh 2 года назад

I'm sorry whatt??

@freerider3434 2 года назад

Apology accepted

@joshdominguez5100 2 года назад

Glad I watched this

@salieto9597 3 года назад

As mixing engineer, GIK Acoutics are best option by far ( a long far), but I think foam just should work ok with streamers that want to remove the "harshness" of high frequencies. Most important thing is depth of the foam. 1cm of depth is like nothing really. You can listen to an improvement but getting all the walls covered, which I think is highly inefficient (and ugly imo lol)

@lamborghinicentenario2497 7 месяцев назад

aren't mineral wools dangerous to be in your bedroom though?

@salieto9597 7 месяцев назад

@@lamborghinicentenario2497 Yes I think they are if they like "raw", but as GIK acoustics builds them I think its completely safe. A lot of big studios have mineral wool isolation and dont think there's any problem

@2durajkumar 3 года назад

NICE BRO🔥

@CoffeeScribe 3 года назад

THANKS!!!!!!!

@tgmasterx 3 года назад

welcome to nanoleafs, without the lights or customisation, just foam

@piratetech3722 3 года назад

yeah except the nano leafs won't help your sound at all and just sits there like an RGB beacon in the night

@tgmasterx 3 года назад

@@piratetech3722 i know man, thats why I am saying that because they are overpriced like nanoleafs

@hkhatri12 3 года назад

wait a couple of months, there would be RGB acoustic treatment panels.

@JunkBondTrader 3 года назад

@@hkhatri12 There better be.

@denisemarie5661 Год назад

Definitely not a gamer, but your video has such excellent information for room treatment, thank you.

@galactic_4k 2 года назад

can anyone link me affordable 2inch pannels from ebay or amazon? I can only find large packs of the 1inch for a good price.

@TheSpeakenglish Год назад

WHAT are good mics?

@Its_Rafivga 2 года назад

Just started doing RU-vid somewhat consistently for a while. I say some what because the audio is what makes it or breaks it for me. I'll have days where it's quite, then others where lots of noise from outside is heard. I might go with the Amazon ones for now, if anyone else has tips or suggestions lmk🙌. Would love to be able to record without having to worry about audio issues as much. Currently using a HyperX Quadcast mic as well

@crispimtube 2 года назад

I need to add a rug to my setup, but I want one that can be cleaned easily. Any sugestions #Gaming carreers

@floshi6519 3 года назад

Gik Acoustic - MADE IN ITALY - Proud to be Italian!

@Itseno Год назад

How many do I need for a 100 squarefoot room?

@ozemoc2671 3 года назад

yes

@BogdanRaczynskiMusic 3 года назад

Mate, I'm not even looking to be a gamer or have a career in gaming, but found this video when looking at sound panels. I wanted to just say that the audio quality on this is incredible! The sound profile is absolute perfection. Perfect balance of EQ and range. I'm going to keep this video open so I can A/B as a reference for how I want my vocals to sound. I see you've got a handful of videos up on EQ settings, but some are quite dated. Would you say they're all still relevant or have you levelled up your audio game significantly in the last year or two but not shared your secret recipe? Top marks! edit: back from sleuthing your other vids - there's a marked difference in audio within the last 6-9 months. Is it the sound panels? It's as though the sound is completely devoid of any sound bouncing off walls. But also the EQ range is very precise? Any ideas what changed please?