$90 vs $2000 Off-Road Lights 

I mean, low car is going to breakdown and need to be left/towed/repaired somewhere. Edit: I forgot it's still a Toyota Tacoma. Mb.

@@garbagetrash2938 press x to doubt

They should make it a roadtrip from Miami to Toronto.

@@garbagetrash2938 its a toyota... they haven't used any performance upgrades yet so it wouldn't breakdown.

Please!!!!!! That sounds like a great end to the season!!

And I'd say less capable off road because of it.

Seriously. Hi truck has got to be quite the pooch now with all that extra weight.

@@GasTank87 Seriously they could be 1000 pounds heavier by the time their done. The Bumpers the roof rack, the winch, the fancier lockers and associated equipment, and it's all heavy duty stuff so none of it was designed to be light weight.

@@s.willis8426 not just 1000lbs but a lot of it is up real high… the centre of gravity is getting worse.

That's why the folk with the most expensive stuff is mostly street queens

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😂😂😂😂😮 did Nolan wrong lol

This season should just be called doin Nolan dirty lol

Toy katana sound 🤣

I feel like KCs R&D department just cant keep up with all the LED tech coming out of China and Korea

I think thats a pretty fair assessment. I have a combination of dirt cheap and mildly cheap lights on my right. My light bar was about $500 and works perfectly fine for what I need it to do. The light pods I have were amazon specials and they work fine. My only complaint with the pods is the finish hasnt held up very well but my jeeps not a show rig so that doesnt bother me.

These guys were smoking crack to choose kc

@@sixpath Or were paid to choose them

I agree but I think they could have done better on the brackets for a more sleek look like a rough country roof mounts

Same... Flood lights are better as area lights, row of spots will look like one, uneven lights with prominent shadows. I also would think that seeing more to the sides is way more useful than seeing twice as long... which you most likely won't be able to see since there is going to be very bright region close by. If you ask LD which solution should be used, they will say flood lights.

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Now they need better headlights!

@@vSparq I was going to say, that could have been at the spot where, to me, it looked like they were driving with headlights off just to see what their aftermarket lights alone were like... But I'd have to imagine that 2000 dollar lights are going to assume you have some gnarly headlights as well, since you're obviously not sparing any expense to illuminate the area around you... Headlights are supposed to light up the immediate vicinity in front of you, up to a couple hundred feet. If they had some gnar headlights, then they may find that those KC lights were MUCH more usable, and the low trucks lightbar may not even make *any difference at all* when turned on, once you've got super bright headlights already lighting up that immediate area in front of you, which is where the lightbar really shined, pun intended. The only thing it may do at that point is illuminate some of the area in their peripherals a bit better than your headlights are designed to do, due to not wanting to blind other drivers.. And yes I'm talking with proper headlight housings for the type of lights they install, and beams angled properly down in front of the truck, as opposed to directly in oncoming traffic's effing eyes like EVERY TRUCK OWNER EVER does! "These'r great! Hmm.. I tilt these sumbitches up a bit more n I cn see a helluva lot better in fronna me! N nobody else but me needsta see when Im the one drivin the truck! Manafachurers sure is stoopid fer not thinkina this one!" - Every truck owner, *ever*

@@MrKoalatea hahahah

Hell at this point 😂

Grand Tour status, just strap some bad boy handhelds down with duct tape and it's all good.

@@yatox8 😂😂

Headlight tint the ugly light bar!!!

Yeah judging off of the last episode they couldn’t buy a harbor freight winch

Isn't that exactly what this is, comparing high cost items to low cost items? Watch the series and decide what items that are pricey are worth spending your money on... and f everyone who tells you otherwise. It's your truck... or car, or whatever

I said this last week. I want a short follow up where Nolan and James have to agree where they spend the money on a truck. Nolan can be the wife and is the husband.

yeah like someone else said, they’re presenting the individual components, you decide how you prioritize the overall list... Of course, for any off road vehicle, tires and suspension are the foundation and should come first.

I think they do that at the end of the series

they did that in the last episode of the last series, i imagine they will do the same here

editor did him so dirty

Part had me dying

Should have been a light saber effect

The editors are really talented and funny

100%, who in their right mind would spend $2000 on lights when the $90 light bar is plenty sufficient.

Agree. What they said is completely irrelevant....those KCs are not even close to "be worth it".

@@JP_A3 long term you might want something a bit better though. Feel like a Lazer led bar would be better. Slots in right in the middle in terms of price and gets you a proper warranty and support.

@@isakgustavsen6536 that's the only thing that's actually different is reliability. They should've gone off-road to bang them around to see how they hold up. That being said, you could either keep replacing those light bars or spend a little more and get a reliable one (assuming that one actually isn't reliable)

facts

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I died, one of the funniest moments they have now 🤣

slide whistle

😂😂😂

@@westleyparker7810 Yes! Had me in stitches

For real, like how about something half way, like KC style rack with LEDs at like 2-500 dollars or so. Low budget doesn't mean you have to go rock bottom choices

I only gave the win to LoTruck because of practicality. The lights do their job just fine and get the job done.

Legit you can find replicas or similar styled light bar of the KC for 200-500$ bet they work and look just as good as the OG

Or they could have added 2 more in the middle

Yeah they could stack 2 90$ lightbars also....

The relative flood versus spot effect is about reflector design. There are other LED light bars that have a more "throwy" output and would light up the distance similar to the KC setup.

@@JohnBaxendale on the same note, the kc's are modular, and likely they could get a set up that matches the perspective of the low team bar

Exactly, also you do not need to see 500 meters infront of you when you offroad. Low trucks wide and smooth visibility is what you want when offroading.

dont get me wrong, high car's lights are a lot better but fuck off are they 2 grand better lmao, low car could've easily spent slightly more and gotten a very similar result

Exactly! In what universe is the more expensive light setup a better option?! A $2000 worth of friggin' lights can be justified ONLY if you are buying anti aircraft illumination!

The main downsight of Low lights is not the lower performance. It's the reliability. Those chinese led systems get hot af. Not only that can fail, but the water seal in the enclosure can fail anytime, leaving you with no lights when you need them the most. With these kind of survival tools you are paying the reliability mainly, not just the punctual performance. But yeah, the difference is way too much. There must be a reliable choice in-between the two.

Pretty much what I did then bought the covers with the logos of eBay and bang no one can tell the dif

i agree, and i think it should be drag cars, like some camaros or mustangs where they do tires, suspension, turbos/ supercharger. in my opinion it would be super entertaining

@@connordannelley5734 I would like them to do High Low Subaru Wrx or STI's

@@connordannelley5734 Yeah American Muscle drag build would be sweet. Like stock v8 mustang or sonething.

This is exactly what I was thinking. That would be awesome

Nolan is the community underdog though, switching lanes breaks the spirit of the show...

These yanks don’t understand how real 4x4s are built, everything down under is better

Uhmm, these light bars are rated for 'off-road' use and arn't ment to be used on public daily use roads. Because they are like hi-beam and blind the oncoming driver which can cause a serious accident. City drivers who put these light bars it on their city suv's and such...just to use it in city because it ''looks cool'' are bunch of d.... (not trying to offence you, just saying) I dont know in AU, but in EU if you have one mounted & even disconnected and go to car inspection, you will fail it, because these light bars are not for road use and will have to reapply for inspection again specially taking it down b4 the inspection. And if you'r unlucky to be invited in one of the 'car road-side inspections', then also police will fine you because of it and/or even remove your road legal sticker and stamp on temp. one so that you remove the bar and again need to go to inspection to get your car 'road legal' again.

@@LooNeYlv any (reasonable) person using such lights, if they even use them on the roads at all (many don't, including myself on all but the darkest nights on roads with no streetlights), turns them off when there is incoming traffic, basically using them like upgraded highbeams for when there is no one in front of you. Also, thats horrible I would hate to live somewhere like that-

@@LooNeYlv in Australia, you are allowed up to 4 additional driving lights. They must be able to be turned off with their own switch, and they must turn off on low beam.

Living in Alaska I need quality lights. Winter is cold and harsh on lights, also the bumps on the road kill bars, I’ve destroyed multiple from road chatter. I’ve never had a rigid, Baja or my vision x bars fail.

Totally agree.

Adding separate switch, two more bumper mounted lights @$50? Add shorter rear mounted light bar. (Backing up, hooking up, easy)

I dont like how focused the kc lights are. With how bright they are they could have dispersed the light more and they'd still seem crazy bright.

he wanted to be on low team tho

Also, you can buy another lightbar and have more light if you wanted. For under $200 total

I also want to see the look on Jame's face getting low car.

exactly what i was thinking.

I was surprised the gave the win to the hi team

@@wayando buyers remorse, gotta make some reason to feel the need to say it was worth it

@@wayando It feels like everyone has to agree with James sometimes.

They are tripping, low setup all day. 2k "worth it" lmaooo

Yeah and they're going to get smashed...I'll take low because of the price to replace

They prolly made a mistake putting it too front cuz they kinda blinding themselves with the hood. But ye bumpers are definitely where they belong

it's supposed to be a little bit on the back so it doesn't create a huge glare on the hood. ChrisFix made a video on how to mount one years ago as well.

Incoming carbon hood for 0 reflection 😎😎😎

@@mal3762 yeah, they are not fan of chris fix haha. Wathced it too

Yes like spend a few bucks on a pair or 2 of the old school style kc lights they put on the bumper and call it good. 2 on a roll bar aimed slightly out and 2 on the bumper more straight forward would be plenty and not break the bank. Baja style racing would be the only time you'd need extremely far shinning lights when off roading. For what they are doing that massive roof light bar system is not necessary.

I spent $90US ($120 Australian) for the spotlights i have on my truck they are awesome, super bright really nice colour temperature aswell (more of a daylight white and not a blueish white) in my opinion i cant really see the point of spending 2K on a set of lights

I went from a set of those older KC to a cheaper light bar. Blew those KCs out of the water and it's still running 8 years later. So longevity isn't an issue either.

why not buy 2 cheap bars for $90 each? Blow the the $2k lights out of the water and use the other $1820 for more mods! Seems like they need "low guy", "high guy" and also a "smart guy".

Yeah , I feel like if they maybe spent like 200-300$ ( still a low budget ) there’s probably a light bar that can compete with kc . Feel like they should do that with every episode . Low truck gets garbage compared to high . When there is items still on a budget that could compete with the high truck purchases lol

This, I want so much

When daddy James says no, he means no.

Agreed!!

No.

No. Nolan still has his head on his shoulders. He’d be frugal with the money. James is going for top tier items.

That's the thing. The KCs were 20x more expensive but only offered 2x more lux in the tests. James kept mentioning that they are scientifically better lights but didn't really grapple with the fact that those same measurements demonstrated a much worse value proposition for high truck. I just really doubt that the modularity and look, which is totally subjective, can account for that kind of markup. I would guess that a $500 setup that more closely resembled the look and features of the KCs would eliminate them from consideration. If it could offer similar modularity and looks while at least maintaining similar lux to the lightbar, it's a slam dunk for low truck.

So next time a middle of road mods? Best option middle of price between two. $100 to close to $3000? $1500 would get you a lot.

I think you'd do way better getting 2000$ worth of 90$ lights 😁

@@jake2011rt Psssh, "scientifically better" they used a light meter, that's just one metric of measurement. They mostly seemed to enjoy the looks of the KCs, which isn't very scientific. Personally, I would have liked to have seen MPG ratings before and after the lights were installed on each truck, those things must cause hella drag and wind resistance and maybe measurable drops in fuel economy.

@@MrTheHillfolk That would be lulz, and also blinding.

I live in a small-ish town up a mountain pass and at night, extra lights are pretty handy. Mostly for the critters, less for criminal activity lol

Had KCs on the jeep in Maine in 89-91. It was like daylight at night if there was snow on the ground. Felt bad if we went by a farm house. Sure the Farmers hated how bright it must get when we went by.

I understand the look but for the price a decent size light bar and led headlights are usually more then enough. I had a 42” bar 2 spots and led headlights in my old Jeep Liberty and went from AB to British Columbia at night in winter. It was like driving the sun!

"And we're mostly not criminals..." that's an interesting way to put that huh...

Mostly

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@@czip3007 I'll consider it but only because it's you 😁

I've got multiple KC lights on top of my truck absolutely no whistle Minimal change in drag or fuel mileage and I've got 6" lights the ones on this truck look like 5" lights

@@brandonbld17 I was next to you on the highway. They're loud as!

Still gonna need that 1.21 gigawatts Marty!

When you put looks in a car that was meant to be a practical off road build, that just means he probably thought it wasn't worth that much money compared to low teams, not to mention as other people are saying, low team could have spent like another 90 dollars to put another light bar in the grill or something else as well.

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@@davidcazares7441 please baby no more parties in LA

Lol why does caring about your appearance have to be an LA thing? I know Americans generally have a terrible sense of style and aesthetics, but don't act like caring about appearance is the weird option of the two. Lol!

If looks count for a lot, then low team wins by a mile, those KCs look ugly and antiquated compared to the sleek modern light bar. That said, if I'm building an off-roader, looks count for nothing, because very few people will ever see it, the trails just aren't that packed. Function is what counts, and that extra $2000 can go a LONG way to better use than paying to have the KC brand stamped on the front.

Yeah daylight yellowish warmth vs the artificial blue light that a lot of white LEDs give off.

Actually the characteristic "blue" LED color is much closer to the temperature color range of daylight compared to the warm halogen glow. People just think halogen looks more natural because it is closer to the color of "artificial" light sources like fire and filament lights.

@@crisprapper daylight its actually around 5000K, white with a light blue hue

@@jpiccari Exactly.

The LED bars kelvin rating is like 6000k. The KC lights have a kelvin rating of 5000k which is closer to the suns kelvin rating. That's why OEM HIDs are 4300k. Closest to natural sun light. Warmer light color is much better especially in dusty and foggy conditions.

Thanks for info! I could actually use this to simulate headlights at night in a game, if it's worth the calculations.

How is it possible for a light to looks fake? In real life

@@sara_m You're all over it now, Sara, love it.

Most bright led have normal cri of 80, more than enough for driving

Might explain the way I edit my photos

Thats a fun idea. Not sure if thats enough for a full episode

Could involve whether or not it's worth it to ceramic coat for a fast wash and more protection.

Full detail vs. cheap car washes to achieve same result would be fun

Half the fun would be watching them get the trucks dirty

Yeah and they can all where bikinis

It will still be cheaper. You can break the low team light bar 20 times over and it'll still be cheaper

@@ashutoshswain4342 Also KC will probably tell you that to get the light output from factory you need to buy a bulb which will probably cost at least half of what the whole light system of low truck was

The kc’s not worth 20 times the money than the LED bar

The lights are LED...what bulb is going to blow?

@@AveragePicker "or smashed" learn to read the whole thing and electronics fail. LEDs are in that category.

*laughs in WW2 German shwimwagon*

Remembers topgear 😂

Laughs in WhistlinDiesel

*laughs nervously, like he gets the jokes*

When the indestructible hilux still works after being in the oceans

That guy is a natural on camera! Needs his own show besides these appearances! love Donut Media

@@ellioteslander3046 Yeah, I'd imagine his time is too limited to have his own show on Donut, but I do wish he could. Doing two different cars on snake pit and doing it twice a week, with two different presenters alternating would be awesome, especially if the second was Aaron. Just more Aaron in general would be a good thing!

He has extensive experience with rotary engines if I'm not wrong, the man has gone through much worse I assume.

@@hiragatatsumi5714 Oh yes, I don't recall where I read about the build on his rotary engined RX from Hyperdrive on Netflix, but there was a lot of trial and error fabrication. He was a math teacher with a hobby before that car made a splash.

Thanks my man!! I think it comes from my work on Formula Drift. A lot of people don't know that I've been a professional Mechanic in Formula Drift for the past 7 years. (2) of those as Crew Chief. When you travel across the country to win a race.. you don't give up when a small issue occurs. It ain't over till they tell you you're out of time!!

Agreed

I’d love to see them switch teams for the next set of cars they do

Yeah they should've switched places for this second build

@@miloromero2887 exactly

Kinda disappointed they didn't switch build for this seasons, i hope they switch team later for next build. Give my man Nolan a high budget too pls 😔

like half the kc lights and one cheap light..

That's not the point of the show and at that point it'd be just another generic parts vid

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Barely

@@MrKoalatea imagine that dude in the opposite side of the road full blast

@@MrKoalatea Wow. You were not kidding.

I like how attractive your profile pic is

@@diegoochoa572 Your profile picture is literally a D. Does not get more attractive than that.

I was just thinking I love James's personality in the vids, but that if I worked with him, it might get grating.

@@CybrSlydr yes. Basically this. I would NOT want to work with/for him. He seems idk. Egotistical? Like, being on Low Car/Truck is beneath him.

@@Enidx10 I choose to think he plays it up for the camera.

That most likely is because low trucks brackets were screwed directly to the body while hi trucks lights were mounted on a roof rack. The roof rack is going to more vibrations and flex to get to the lights. If the KC lights were mounted to the chassis, the stability should have been about the same.

I also didn't think the low lights didn't look as bad as they said. Would 100% take low over high. (Probably would get something in the middle)

This

Wish u were my dad. My dad sucks

Nolan’s got that slide whistle blade 😂

But you can buy 25 low truck light kits for the same price of the high truck light so replacing it every once and a while isn’t actually that big of a deal.

I have a $40 dollar light bar for more than 5 years now with no issues lol

The LED ebay lights have leakage issues that cause premature failure, HOWEVER, a neopreme cover costs 18$, and has been working for 4 years on my wrangler

@@PantyDropper69 do you mean neoprene? That’s neat where’d you get it? I wonder if I could just get a sheet of neoprene and almost “shrink wrap” it around something to make it watertight.

Yeah I was thinking the same. But just buy 4 of the cheap bars and swap them out if one breaks. Still be way way cheaper.

how hard are you hitting these deers that they hit the roof of your car?!?!?!?!?

@@zeedstun891 - you missed the part where he said "behind his grill". Also, in the Midwest and northern area of the US it's not uncommon to encounter deer on the major highways and interstates, so 65 - 80 mph is a real option. Hitting anything close to the size of an adult deer is a total write-off at that speed.

Looks like they're adding rooftop tents based on how the animations match the trucks, so it'll probably happen.

For 20k they couldn't even build original high car

Killer in what? A straight line? Yawn. For a few thousand miles before the motor loses oil pressure? Oh look it turns faster but nobody cares because it's a shitbox.

@@jeffcivjeep7 no the full monty, track times, off the line, braking, slalom. Back in the 90s an Eclipse GSX with a few mods was eating supercars alive. Just curious if it can be repeated. Even modern supercars aren't known for reliability either.

it's hard to capture light patterns on camera since it'll automatically adjust. If you go by the measurements, the KC is way better close and far. I noticed it when comparing halogens to new LEDs. It's about 2x brighter but the pics barely show any difference.

On rigs like these, flood is what you’re gonna want. If you’re doing high speeds. You’re gonna want the longer throw of the kc or other high end lights.

@@indridcold69 long throw comes from reflector size.

Having distance throw with has been great on 2 occasions off road. Dry lake bed trying to find the exit when there are no landmarks before GPS was a thing 2) Looking for a friend that wrecked his side by side in the desert. We were all riding together but had to return to camp for a tow strap to yank him out. Even psychologically, having light punch out a distance makes me feel safer. Most modern vehicles have very good flood and short range lights from the factory too from LED head lights and fog lights so I already know what’s 100’ ahead of me.

@@TobyCostaRica I can see it from that perspective...no pun intended...but I have been wheeling for many years and much of it at night. I've found that while seeing a great distance is nice, seeing more of what is closer to me is better. However...I do have a spotlight that I can use in case I need it. I have considered getting a solid pair of good spotlights to put on my rig.

and i do love watching high low. best car show on the youtoobs

And then they took the extra $1,900 and had a party...

I was wondering if anyone else would notice that statement.

Yeah man which switch panel is that/what would you recommend for a switch panel?

Believe me they did waterproof it and install it correctly. Just because it was not shown does not mean they did not do it. If you want to see long install videos and see every little detail you can pay seven dollars a month for extended videos.

That's just stupid

@@zshn28 woosh, missed the point

@@zshn28 that’s the point. He’s mocking the winch vs comealong episode

Nah, price difference is about right...80/1200usd for the winches, 90/2000usd for the lighting. Tf you talking about.

It's not the cost. It is the ridiculousness of the comparison. Does "shovel vs backhoe" work better for you? But really, a come along should be in addition to a winch not a replacement.

Idk your comment and the sandwich comment youtuber up there is exactly the same

Kholiq lmao

He did get it, only it was the Low budget one. 🤣

Definitely. Looks like they live closer to desert, but I'm in Wisconsin and I got some cheap $40 yellow fog lights. Mainly thinking about the snow and fog.

Diode Diode dynamics is a good brand to check out. Their pods have really good beam patterns and they are only a few hundred bucks. Literally every light that has that simple bowl reflector style like low truck’s light bar is absolute garbage though. They just don’t produce useful beam patterns.

Pretty sure for 2k I can start looking at a thermal camera

@@nickabel8279 u mean night vision?

Should have lights all the way around for 2G's

@@ebeneZr all depends on what you're doing/ preference. Caddy did Thermal at one point. Another did night vision. You can get some pretty cheap ir set up these days too. Though ir imo doesn't go very far. Thermal I've heard of spotting cops on Rd side at a mile

Agreed

They’re adding way too much weight

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I agree with thi notion

Not really room to stack cheap light bars and it would look trashy anyways. You could also skip the expensive KC lights bar and go with some lights from Baja Designs and get similar lux out of them

@@AVRides 2 stacked and staggered is common and I think looks better than the one they put up high.

They actually spent $2750 because of the rack they mounted them on. Low Truck definitely won this challenge.

The whole beach, and half of the visible ocean XD

Lives in California doe. It’s not as likely to happen compared to some dude out in North Carolina or Maine doing the same thing.

There would be rust on an Ohio truck in about 10 minutes.

yeah i was thinking this like a quick primer or something to spray in there would be enough

Californians: water… leakage? You lost me on the first half tbh.

Toledo Cars hey I'm guessing you from Ohio if so me too

Damn it peg!

Ay yo

Exactly that. The difference between let's say 80 and 90 is already very noticeable.

Cri?

@@RandyAugustus Colour Rendering Index. An indikator of how "full/complete" the light is. The higher the value the more details you can see.

Roof lights should only be used off-road. They have no purpose on the road, everyone gonna be blind, including yourself.

@@dubious6718 no pourpose on the road? they are great when its pitch black and you are in a area with lots of stupid reindeer(and you have them wired to high beams so you just turn of the hi beam when theres someone infront of you)

@@einar8019 Then you use the high beams you have front of grill. Lights on roof has no real benefit on cars with a hood in front, as hood can reflect the light back at you.

@@dubious6718 most hi beams dont throw far enough to see them in time when they arent facing you