Badagas owned the land, did agriculture, reared cattle, laid the cultural background for the land. Their produce fed the other tribes. Brother it is the man who feeds that settled on the land first. You are entitled to your own opinions but not to your own facts
Gauda is title and not caste name. Kounder is also came from Gauda only. Not only Kannadas and Badagas used Gauda, but some Tamil communities and Coorgese, Tulu communities also used Gowda. Gowda, Gowder, Kounder are all the same. It represents village head.
கொங்கு நாட்டின் (மைசூர் உட்பட ) பூர்வகுடிகள் கவுடக்கள் குரும்பாக்களும் கவுடதான் படகர்கள் இங்குமட்டுமல்ல ஈரோடு திம்பம் மலைபகுதியிலும் கிருஷ்ணகிரி தருமபுரி மலைபகுதியிலும் வாழ்கின்றனர் இவர்கள் அனைவரும் கவுடக்கள்தான் கவுண்டர் உட்பட
Badagas owned the land, did agriculture, reared cattle, laid the cultural background for the land. Their produce fed the other tribes. Brother it is the man who feeds that settled on the land first. You are entitled to your own opinions but not to your own facts
Bro, if you like it or not. Truth is truth. Only Badaga, Toda and Kota lived in Nilgiris until 1850, until John Sullivan entered Nilgiris. Tamil speaking people entered Nilgirs along with Britishers for trade only around 1890 and beginning of 1990s. Nilgiris was called as Sita nadu or baduga nadu which was located next to Kongu nadu. Then mysore dynasty king killed badaga king Kalla and took control of Nilgiris then it went under tipu sultan, from Tipu sultan Britishers took it under Madras presidency. During 1950 state reallocation, Nilgiris came under Tamil Nadu since majority of Badagas wanted to live with Tamil people. Now badagas, Todas, Kotas started speaking Tamil, writing script in Tamil, now we are all bilinguals. 90% of places of Nilgiris is named in Badaga, Todas and Kota names. 10% of Badaga words contains Tamil sangam words also.
@@dyadharshni1982 again Truth can't be hidden ! All over tamilnadu Land belongs to native people Everything was looted by settlers Go and ask you grandma's mother they may know when the settled here ! And why they came fearing tipu sultan!
Badagas owned the land, did agriculture, reared cattle, laid the cultural background for the land. Their produce fed the other tribes. Brother it is the man who feeds that settled on the land first. You are entitled to your own opinions but not to your own facts.
நீலகிரியில் இருப்பவர்கள் படுகர் நீலகிரி அடுத்த மேட்டுப்பாளையம் பகுதியில் இருப்பவர்கள் ஒக்கிலிய கவுண்டர்கள் ஆவர்கள் இவர்கள் இருவரும் கர்நாடகா பகுதியில் இருந்து தமிழகத்திற்கு வந்தவர்கள். இவர்கள் நூறு வருட முந்திய குலதெய்வ கோவில்கள் தமிழகத்தில் இல்லை . கர்நாடகத்தில் உள்ளது இந்த இரு பகுதிகளும் அணைத்து அரசு அதிகாரங்களிளும் தமிழர் என்ற போர்வையில் உள்ளனர் . இவர்களில் லிங்காயித்து என்ற பிரிவு உள்ளது அவர்கள் அசைவம் உண்ணமாட்டார்கள் .இவர்கள் கர்நாடக பகுதியில் இன்றும் உள்ளனர் உதாரணமாக எடியூர்ப்ப பசுவராஜ் பொம்மை . இவர்கள் லிங்காயத்து சமுதாயத்தைசேர்ந்தவர்கள் இவர்கள் தமிழர் என்றால் காவிரி பிரச்சனையை இவர்களின் இனதலைவர்கள் எத்தனை தடவை பேசி உள்ளனர் .பேசமாட்டார்கள் ஏன் என்றால் இவர்களின் பூர்வீகமும் சொத்துக்களும் இன்றும் கர்நாடகத்தில் உள்ளது .இவர்களின் வீட்டு வேலைக்கு கூட ஏழை கர்நாடகா மக்களைத்தான் வீட்டுடன் வைத்து இருப்பார்கள்
All Tamils entered nilgirs after British period. 90% of land belongs to badagas and you people stole the lands from us and siting in our land. …This is Baduga naadu you pavadai….soon BJP will be elected in Nilgiri and you paavadai guys will be out of Nilgiri….
Badagas doesn’t have any connection with Kannada people. Our hatti dolmn is dated 2 bc. Even before christianty is born. 90% places are named in badaga….UNESCO has ceritified that badagas are indegenous people of Nilgiris….You guys can’t change that with your fake news and propaganda…Nilgiris is was and will be always Badaga Nadu
At tipu sultan period many people migrated to erode Coimbatore and nilgiri.. others remain as kanada people but kannada people who entered nilgiri was converted as baduga by local tribes for protecting them from tipu... They follow every culture of local tribes including language.. and now they trying to dominate Tribes of nilgiri
❤படுகரின் அதீத வளர்சிதான் எல்லோருக்கும் குழப்பம்... உண்மையான கல்வியாளர்கள் யாரும்.. அக்கரை செலுத்தவில்லை. கல் தோன்றி மண்தோன்றா காலத்து.. முன் தோன்றிய மூத்தக்குடி..... முக்குற முக்கு.. சொல்லி மாளலே... படகு மக்கள் எம் மாத்திரம். த
தோழர்கள் இருவரின் பேட்டி அற்புதம்🎉🎉 எப்பொழுதும் " வதந்தி " க்கு மதிப்பு அதிகம்🎉🎉எளிதில் பரவிவிடும்🎉🎉உண்மை உறங்கிக்கொண்டுதான் இருக்கும் 🎉🎉 கல்வியிலும் , விவசாயத்திலும் சிறந்து விளங்குகிற படுகா இன மக்களை (மலைவாழ் தமிழர்கள்) மனதார வாழ்த்துகிறேன்🎉🎉 3 , 4 தலைமுறையாக வால்பாறை , முடீஸ் பகுதியில் வாழ்ந்த ஒரு தமிழன்❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
படுகர்கள் மிகவும் அன்பு மிக்கவர்கள் மற்ற மொழி பேசுபவர்களிடம் அன்பாக பழகக் கூடியவர்கள் அவர்களது பழக்க வழக்கங்கள் மிகவும் வித்தியாசமாக இருக்கும் உணவு பழக்க வழக்கமும் வித்தியாசமாக இருக்கும்
Bro, if you like it or not. Truth is truth. Only Badaga, Toda and Kota lived in Nilgiris until 1850, until John Sullivan entered Nilgiris. Tamil speaking people entered Nilgirs along with Britishers for trade only around 1890 and beginning of 1990s. Nilgiris was called as Sita nadu or baduga nadu which was located next to Kongu nadu. Then mysore dynasty king killed badaga king Kalla and took control of Nilgiris then it went under tipu sultan, from Tipu sultan Britishers took it under Madras presidency. During 1950 state reallocation, Nilgiris came under Tamil Nadu since majority of Badagas wanted to live with Tamil people. Now badagas, Todas, Kotas started speaking Tamil, writing script in Tamil, now we are all bilinguals. 90% of places of Nilgiris is named in Badaga, Todas and Kota names. 10% of Badaga words contains Tamil sangam words also.
எதை வைத்து இப்படி சொல்கிறீர்கள்?! தமிழகத்தில் அமைதியும் சகோதரத்துவமும் ஜாதி ஏற்றத்தாழ்வு இல்லாமல் இருப்பது நீலகிரி! சட்டம் ஒழுங்கு இந்த பெருமை எந்த மாவட்டத்திற்கு உண்டு?!
Nilgiris is border between Tamil and Kannada empires. Ganga, Hoysala, Mysore have ruled it when they were powerful. Cholas, Pallavas, Pandyas and satyaputra(chera of Kongu) have both ruled over this region. So the tribals who lived in these regions would have influence from both these languages. There were no non tribals lived in this region.
@@senthilkumars7407 If in Singapore, Malaysia Tamil language is recognized as national language you will be happy and if one tamil channel speaks about our land and our language you guys are getting jealous and so much hate speech. What a man kind, you guys are worst than shit….keedu ketavargaal…Thu….
Praveenv, Badagas are well known for our hosting, innocence and welcoming people. Our ancestors really never researched anything about our community etc. We never discriminated anyone. So many non badagas lived and did business and developed as well. We supported all. But recent times because of few racists politicians, we started researching our facts and found lot of truth. And how we have been followed for years. So it’s time to protect our community. We people want to live in peace and happiness but if you people guy want hate, we will give you twice of it. SO PLEASE STOP THIS NONSENSE here. You don’t have to reply.
@@praveenv407 how is my keep, your mother?? You pottai boy, not dare to share who you are???? Your father is pottai too??? 😂😂😂pottai vamsam….you guys barambarai keeps for us….I don’t want to respond to pottai here after
I want to say one thing nilagiri maybe under mysore ok but not entirely and there more tribues native to nilagiri too so no kannda are any people come and say we want nilagiri cause every tribe as a part forms nilagiri no one as rights even tamil nadu
@@advocacyindyaadvocacyindya4805 if u know the history u will know ..He was worked as assistant under the British collector who was migrated from chengalpet.later he conducted many acitvities and group for scheduled tribes welfare particularly for baduka people. He has asked help from john suvillian for the welfare of people
Bro, if you like it or not. Truth is truth. Only Badaga, Toda and Kota lived in Nilgiris until 1850, until John Sullivan entered Nilgiris. Tamil speaking people entered Nilgirs along with Britishers for trade only around 1890 and beginning of 1990s. Nilgiris was called as Sita nadu or baduga nadu which was located next to Kongu nadu. Then mysore dynasty king killed badaga king Kalla and took control of Nilgiris then it went under tipu sultan, from Tipu sultan Britishers took it under Madras presidency. During 1950 state reallocation, Nilgiris came under Tamil Nadu since majority of Badagas wanted to live with Tamil people. Now badagas, Todas, Kotas started speaking Tamil, writing script in Tamil, now we are all bilinguals. 90% of places of Nilgiris is named in Badaga, Todas and Kota names. 10% of Badaga words contains Tamil sangam words also.
And tibes of nilgiri paid tax to Tamil kings to buy the salt and... They come to karamadai to worship lord ranganatha.. and goddess chamundi is also a god of tibes of nilgiri but they did not go to Mysore instead they had her in masinagudi
Badagas owned the land, did agriculture, reared cattle, laid the cultural background for the land. Their produce fed the other tribes. Brother it is the man who feeds that settled on the land first. You are entitled to your own opinions but not to your own facts
Brahmins migrated from Europe, North east migrated from China, Tamils migrated from Ceylon, finally no Indians lived here. Everyone migrated from Africa. So come lets all go to Africa 😂😂😂Loosu mathiri pesa kudathu puriyutha 🤮
Badagas owned the land, did agriculture, reared cattle, laid the cultural background for the land. Their produce fed the other tribes. Brother it is the man who feeds that settled on the land first. You are entitled to your own opinions but not to your own facts
Bro, if you like it or not. Truth is truth. Only Badaga, Toda and Kota lived in Nilgiris until 1850, until John Sullivan entered Nilgiris. Tamil speaking people entered Nilgirs along with Britishers for trade only around 1890 and beginning of 1990s. Nilgiris was called as Sita nadu or baduga nadu which was located next to Kongu nadu. Then mysore dynasty king killed badaga king Kalla and took control of Nilgiris then it went under tipu sultan, from Tipu sultan Britishers took it under Madras presidency. During 1950 state reallocation, Nilgiris came under Tamil Nadu since majority of Badagas wanted to live with Tamil people. Now badagas, Todas, Kotas started speaking Tamil, writing script in Tamil, now we are all bilinguals. 90% of places of Nilgiris is named in Badaga, Todas and Kota names. 10% of Badaga words contains Tamil sangam words also.
Baduga is the followers of Kota tradition. After their entry to nilgiri they have given a cultural status by Kota... And no Kingdom ruled officialy the nilgiri
@@RockStar-el6wr oh yes. UNESCO that's less than 50 years old decides history of a tribe nestled in deep South of India? And what do they know about Indian history or civilization? Leftist funny theories..am not saying you are not an exclusive tribe. Am saying that this Aryan Dravidian nonsense is a fake narrative and calling a tribe not belonging to the Indian Vedic roots is ridiculous
@@RockStar-el6wr it's okay to talk about your uniqueness culture customs all that. But when someone talks history they need to know about a lot to vouch for it. Not some made up fake narrative with no empirical evidence or research.
Most of the cultures in India comes with the base of Indian Vedic system yet every community has their unique way of custom. Our marriage, our death ceremony, festivals were all unique to us. Based on the eco system we live.
@@RockStar-el6wr absolutely. But those two are talking as if they have no roots to the Hindu civilization. This Aryan Dravidian nonsense has gone too far and the only people who believe this stupid story are most of the People from Tamil Nadu. Being brainwashed by the Christian missionaries from British first and then the leftists and then the Dravidian idiots
Badagas are ancient Hindu refugees from the southern parts of Mysore Chamrajnagar during the HtderAli/ Tippu Sultan period. Badaga is not a separate language by itself . It is a dialect of Kannada ..
Every semai is in name of Kota tribe and toda Poragadu, kundha, semai is the village name of Kota Thodhanadu is semai of toda.. Semai was built by Kota and toda who are u guys to tell that it was built by u
Baguda is the people who is so innocent and friendly with local tribes and local tribes treat them as their own brothers.. but few guys like them spoiling the history and relationship among tribes and baduga and as well relationship from Tamil.... Local tribes are the Tamil tribes.. these guy's are faking the history and unity
Brother, The Nilgiris was never culturally linked to any other place in South India or North India. The first official report is that of the British. All places, towns, villages are named after the Badaga Language. The lifestyle, food habits, attire and rituals of the Badagas is totally distinct from Kannadigas, Tamilians, Malayalese. Todas, Kotas, Kurumbas and Badagas communicated using Badaga as the link language. The name of the link language itself was given by the European discoverers and would have been planted in the European minds by the Kannadiga, Tamil or Malayali guides escorting them through the thickly forested Nilgiris District. Nowhere in Sangam literature is there mention of Nilgiris District or its inhabitants. Similarly there is no monument or inscription to record the History of the Nilgiris. The first language script to record about the Nilgiris District and its people is the European script. The Europeans and the British have officially recorded that Nilgiris is a Dark country akin to the history of Africa, where there is no recorded history. The British and the later Regimes which followed and ruled The Nilgiris found it convenient to call the so called Badagas as 'Badagad', 'Burghers', so that they could easily grab the lands of the Badagas who owned the Nilgiris. The Nilgiris had its own socio-economic system, and the Badagas were the agrarian community providing food to the Todas, Kotas and Kurumbas. The Todas were the Postoral community, the Kotas were the musicians and artisans whilst the Kurimbas were the socerery known clan. There was existence of Bartery system between these communities. The Badagas were dominant and respected ad it was they who owned the land, tilled it, grew crops and provided food to the other communities. FOOD brother, without which none can exist. None of these communities had a script of their own inorder to record their History. Names of places are the proof of Badaga indegeneousness and ownership of majority of lands another proof. The European in their very first official documents have stated that Nilgiris was a place where no battles or wars were historically recorded as there were minimum evidences to record. In such a scenario how do you explain the land holdings of the Badagas. The migration theory was made up just to fool the Badagas to grab their lands. Badaga people are endangered as they have lost their lands and livelihood due to the social and economic engineering by different regimes of Tamil Nadu. This engineering is Officially called as GENOCIDE. First it was Economic Genocide, next cultural Genocide. Genocide planners planned to cut the main income of the Badaga Community, i.e Income from Tea cultivation and vegetable cultivation, next plan to provide no quality medical facilities in the Nilgiris, next planning ensure all Badagas in the business of running Hotels and restaurants in Nilgiris faced harassment and economic loss, next ensure no proper higher education institutions in the Nilgiris - a district headquarters, whilst Kodakannal a Thaluk HQ has its own University. Then plan that all industries run by Central Government employing Badagas are closed down due to corruption by non native people. Next plan ensure all schools run by Badagas are made to shut down. Next ensure no Badaga is Given public sector gas agency or petrol bunk agency, next ensure no Badaga is employed in Government, Judiciary, or IAS, IPS. As a result of this planning Badagas had to migrate to other places for medical emergency, higher education, employment. Cost of living is high outside homeland, so they borrowed money from banks, moneylenders and Dravidian mafia and were forced to sell their lands, get distanced from their community and slowly loose their identity. Plan is partially successful, Badagas face anhilation for being good, honest and kind. Who is to blame for this Silent Genocide?
Eventhough this genocide has proven to migrate people away from Nilgiris not everybody are migrated...We people are still there to educate the people about this genocidal act and protect our culture to the very end.
There is no basis to say every language originated from Tamil in the south. This is pure idiocy and politics by the British to establish a divide. There are and used to be many tribes that were indigenous and had no affiliations to any language people. They had their own culture that still came under the umbrella of Hindu civilization. Dravidian theory and Tamil supremacy is a nonsense theory and propoganda by linguistic fanatics
Badagas owned the land, did agriculture, reared cattle, laid the cultural background for the land. Their produce fed the other tribes. Brother it is the man who feeds that settled on the land first. You are entitled to your own opinions but not to your own facts
Bro, if you like it or not. Truth is truth. Only Badaga, Toda and Kota lived in Nilgiris until 1850, until John Sullivan entered Nilgiris. Tamil speaking people entered Nilgirs along with Britishers for trade only around 1890 and beginning of 1990s. Nilgiris was called as Sita nadu or baduga nadu which was located next to Kongu nadu. Then mysore dynasty king killed badaga king Kalla and took control of Nilgiris then it went under tipu sultan, from Tipu sultan Britishers took it under Madras presidency. During 1950 state reallocation, Nilgiris came under Tamil Nadu since majority of Badagas wanted to live with Tamil people. Now badagas, Todas, Kotas started speaking Tamil, writing script in Tamil, now we are all bilinguals. 90% of places of Nilgiris is named in Badaga, Todas and Kota names. 10% of Badaga words contains Tamil sangam words also.
First Tamil guy, one Chettiyar came to Nilgiri around 1890 to carry food for Britishers. Before that there is not Tamilans in Nilgiri. That’s why there is no Tamil temples or Tamil names in Nilgiris. Our ancestors badagas, kotas and todas called Tamilans as KONGUNA AVAKKA..meaning Kongu nadu people….Badagas, kotas and Todas lived in Nilgiris for centuries…..This is history….
Native are Thoda community not Badugar .if my memory is correct they came from Karnataka . Only Their ladies work in the field males are lazy fellows . Palada kundha manjur kotha giri etc .
I need not at the mirror as I know about my identity , it is you *Baduga-Refugees* need to look into the mirror to know your face/ identity...!! You should be ashamed to call someone's land as yours...!! Look into the mirror and find your identity your orphaned-refugee
It should be BADAGA.I also belong to BADAGANADU.Even though we are Brahmins which is treated as forward community we should have been classified as Scheduled tribe and all benefits should be extended.
உருட்டு ,உருட்டு சுத்தமான உருட்டு....!! திப்பு சுல்தான் ஆட்சிக் காலத்தில் அவருக்கு பயந்து இங்கு ஓடி வந்து நீலகிரியில் தஞ்சம் புகுந்தவர்கள் நீங்கள். இந்த மன்னிர்க்கும் உங்களுக்கும் எந்தவித சம்பந்தமும் இல்லை....படுகர்கள் நீங்கள் வெறும் அகதிகளே ...!!
Rao, you are Kannada guy. Don’t try to spread false news here. Badaga were ST until 1950, it is mentioned in the ooty Gazartee but after 1950, Badagas themselves opted for BC thinking ST will give low status, which is a wrong thinking. So Badagas just wanted to get back the ST status.
😂😂😂Pari meela 3 case eruku. Because of spreading wrong information. He written a letter to ooty police station stating he will not spread wrong information.
Naanum one ofthe.badagar.en.for fathers behand thoungent of years ago.,lived in sarrondings of ooty in..nilgiris ,they are verygood peoples.i proudof myself. Now the badagar peoples are well educated and mercyfull people.