ចៅដក​ - Chao Dork 

เจ้าดอก chau dok is thai language ចៅដក mean flower ,mistress

In thai ចៅ = you,king ដក= flowers

NK DAH ពាក្យចៅជាពាក្យសៀម ចុះភាសារសៀមមានកំណើតពីរណា ?

zin2zin it is khmer song in Cambodia because you saw the pictures of instruments on the temples that built by Cambodian .

zin2zin វ្មុ

ខ្ញុំ ពាក់ខ្សែ ជើង ឡើងចិត្តដាច់ កជឿង ហើយ .. ខ្លាច គេយកទៅ ទេវលោក .. ប្រាប់ខ្លួន ឯង ថា យើងខ្ញុំ រស់នៅលើ ដី . ៕

The same land but different people, thai now aday is tai from china

I do agree with you. Some Khmer and Thai nationalists are obsessed over claiming what had originally been theirs that they forgot the fact that we had shared the same culture before, thus, it's no surprises that one nation might influence its neighbour in one way or another.

วิจิตร วงษ์ทอง duntry boraan khong rao song prathet ni pen morodok khong rao moen kann!

วิจิตร วงษ์ทอง វប្បធ៏មតែមួយតន្ត្រីតែមួយឧបកណ៍តែមួយเพลงโบราณรวมกัน

วิจิตร วงษ์ทอง គ្មានឯកសារគ្រប់គ្រាន់ទេដែលថាជារបស់ថៃនោះតន្រ្តីបុរាណគឺជារបស់ខ្មែរពិតថៃកើតក្រោយខ្មែរទេប្រទេសថៃនេះអ្វីៗក៏ជារបស់យើងដែរ

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និយាយឲ្យចប់សេចក្តីគឺ ទោះបីជាឧបករណ៍តន្រ្តីដូចគ្នាក៏សូរសព្ទ និងសាច់ភ្លេងមានការប្រគុំខុសគ្នាស្រឡះ ដូចនេះមិនបាច់ធ្វើការតវ៉ាប្រកែកទេ។ វាគ្មានបានអ្វីមកវិញឡើយ យកពេលមកកំសាន្តស្តាប់ទៅ។

mickey charlie25

mickey charlie25 proof???

ពាក្យ "ចៅ" ក្នុងភាសាសៀម មិនមែនពាក្យចៅក្នុងភាសាខ្មែរ ហើយពាក្យ "ដក" ក្នុងភាសាសៀម មិនមែនជាពាក្យដកក្នុងភាសាខ្មែរដែរ។ សូមកុំប្រៀបធៀបគ្នា ដោយគ្មានហេតុផលដូចនេះអី។ មានភាសាច្រើនណាស់ ដែលមានពាក្យខ្លះ មានសំណៀងដូចគ្នា តែពុំមែនជាពាក្យតែមួយ ឬមានន័យដូចគ្នាទេ។ ដោយឡែកភាសាខ្មែរ​និងភាសាសៀម មានទំនាក់ទំនងនឹងគ្នាណាស់ ដោយមានកម្ចីពាក្យ​គ្នា​ទៅវិញទៅមកយ៉ាងច្រើន។ ជាឧទាហរណ៍ ពាក្យខ្មែរ "ចៅហ្វាយ" គឺជាពាក្យសៀម ។ ពាក្យចៅដែលនៅ​ពីខាងមុខនេះហើយ ដែលមានន័យ ថា អ្នក លោកម្ចាស់ ឬគុណម្ចាស់ ។ ចំណែក​ពាក្យ "ចៅ" ក្នុងភាសាខ្មែរបច្ចុប្បន្ន បើផ្អែកតាមការស្រាវជ្រាវ របស់ SEAlang Library គឺជាពាក្យកម្ចី ពីភាសាយួន ដែលប្រែថា កូនរបស់កូនខ្លួន​។​ នៅក្នុងចំរៀង និងភ្លេងបូរាណខ្មែរ ខ្មែរមានទំនាក់ទំនងស្អិតជាមួយសៀមច្រើនជាងជាមួយអាណាម។ ហេតុដូច្នេះហើយ បានជាយើងអាចសន្និដ្ឋានថា ពាក្យចៅ និងពាក្យដក ក្នុងន័យចំរៀងមហោរីខ្មែរ គឺជាពាក្យសៀម។ ពាក្យទាំងអស់នេះ មានប្រើញឹ្កកញាប់ណាស់ ក្នុងចំរៀងមហោរី​សៀម។ ចំរៀងមហោរីនេះទៀតសោត ក៏ខ្មែរនឹងសៀម មានទំនុកបទដូចគ្នាច្រើនណាស់ដែរ។

បានញុមយល់ស្របតាមបងអ្នកចេះថៃយល់ពីភាសាគេច្បាស់តែខ្ញុំគិតថាពាក្យ"ចៅ"ក្នុងបទនេះគឺគ្រាន់តែជាអ្នកសំណូមពរចម្រៀងភ្លេងប៉ុណ្ណោះសាច់ន័យគឺចង់ធំអោយ ឧបរណ៍នីមួយបង្ហាញសំនៀងឯកឯងប៉ុណ្ណោះហើយម្តងម្នាក់ៗ

ចៅដក =បុរសឈ្នោះដក ដូចចៅចិត្រ

@@badpenguin4592 ចៅដក​ គឺសំដៅលើបុរសម្នាក់ក្នុងបទនេះដែលតែងតែដកវត្ថុផ្សេងៗ។

sabaikhmer I see, thanks for the explanation.

sabaikhmer No I don't think at all that your explanation is correct. The song talking about Chao, thai or lao word "You, dear..." and Dork " flower ". We use alot of Thai words in mahori song and especialy the royal court dance language. It's the fact. We can't denite it. The khmer and Thai court had shared together alot of cutural structure, so language.

***** Chao has multiple meaning, but I think it's best translated as guardian, or lord. In Khmer as M'chass Phka. This word is seen in other Thai borrowing like ChaoPhraya/Chao Ponyea or ChaoFa/ChaoFea (this not mean a bandit, or grandchild, it translates to "master" or "lord"). The real title of this song is not Chao Dok. The reason why we call it Chao Dok because the lyrics uses Chao Dok as a chorus often. The real title is Phama He (in old Khmer writing from early 1900s, this is acknowledged). Phama He is a Burmese influenced tune from Siamese music.

***** If you noticed, the chorus always say the name of a flower. Like it is calling, Oh lord master of this flower. It is not suppose to make literal sense. This type of lyric is common in other songs from the royal ballet. And I heard some Thai dance songs in Sang Thong use the same type of lyrics to the same tune. Music from the royal ballet often have terms like "Thlai Euy" "Na Nong Euy" and around it is lyrics that don't actually relate to it. etc. Basically it is used as a rhyming tool.

MusaboruOo : Yes I totaly agree with you. Chao=lord, you, Dork=flower. Poeple just deny the fact that we use thai words. There are alots of Thai words not only in khmer court even in general life, that we used to use and keeping uesing its.

silverman laos goldenman ก็ถูก แต่มันน่าหงุดหงิดมากค่ะ ทะเลาะกันไปมา ไทยลอกเขมร เขมรลอกไทย แต่ที่แน่ๆ โนราของภาคใต้นี่จดทะเบียนไปเรียบร้อยแล้ว ไม่มีใครร่วมและไม่มีใครเหมือนแน่นอนค่ะ

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So funny

Accepting the truth isn't painful but what the most painful is someone trying to tell u to accept the false thing while u know it's not true. I agree that khmer copy ur music or drama from thai now a day but did thai ever accept the truth that their culture was from khmer?

The evidences is not strong enough that Thai cultures is only from Khmer, may be some part but Thai cultures is complicated and received from many roots and mixed into a unique one at Ayudhaya period . But Khmer people don't understand that Thai ( the true name is Siam ) nation is a combine nation between Khom ( related with Khmer) and Thai and Mons and others as same as our cultures. And Thai (Siam) not steal any cultures from Khmer.

Khom is come from khmer-mon thai always collected all the scholars treasure architects and many important documents whenever thai defeated khmer. We're not trying to claim that every thai's culture are our but the roots of thai's culture are from khmer(some of). And we accept that at the time that we became weak khmer went to learnt from thai back so the culture of ours everyday maybe isn't the original one but doesn't mean it different we still keep the original.

@@sirisaktan Do you think you are siam blood? Do you know who is the own of Ayudhya ? why Ayudhaya become under sokhoatei for me if you born at Ayudhaya you are khmer blood 100% in that period if phuma not fighting khmer Ayudhaya to give siam sokhoatei ..right now Ayudhaya still in khmer. the people live at there now they are khmer but now mabey they not speak khmer but the culture they still protect, I know all of you now don't want to recognize but the truth is still the truth....because of khmer people in siam now aday they still protect their culture this why everything we look like the same.

@@sirisaktan you should know siam people who come from the south china just a small group of people only the population of siam is 70% is khmer so this why that the culture of siam same same khmer because during you siam stole khmer land in ancient time all the khmer people are still live at that land just under siam management and all khmer people they still protect their culture I know now a day they not speak khmer but in the history you should know ,but if you learn history that written by siam almost are fake .

មាស ស្រីយុត្តិ why song name is a thai language

មាស ស្រីយុត្តិ please look description in this clip.

@@tikitaka8280 its all khmer words Thai used Khmer words 30% of it

Tiki Taka Guy!! Chao= in Khmer is the word calling grandchild or use before the name Dork= in Khmer is to throw away The meaning is telling their next generation not to forget the ancient music instruments tool and link with the work “Dork” which mentioned throwing some plants away in this song.

@@tikitaka8280 are you crazy. The word eat Khmer pronounce See and in English, they pronounce See too but different meanings just sounds like See for all. No one borrow each other.

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@@daty4578 អរគុណ

@@daty4578 តើមានកំណើតដោយសាសន៍ណាមុន?

ចៅដក​ គឺពាក្យខ្មែរសុទ្ធសាធ ព្រោះចៅនោះតែងតែដករបស់នេះរបស់នោះមកកែច្នៃ។ ស៊ីនស៊ីសាមុតនិងរស់សេរីសុទ្ធាក៏មានបទចៅដកនេះដែរ ហើយន័យចៅដកក្នុងបទនោះគឺជាបុរសម្នាក់ឈ្មោះដកដែលតែងតែដករបស់របរ។ អ្វីដែលជារបស់យើងកុំលើកឲ្យគេ។

@@daty4578 ចៅដក​ គឺពាក្យខ្មែរសុទ្ធសាធ ព្រោះចៅនោះតែងតែដករបស់នេះរបស់នោះមកកែច្នៃ។ ស៊ីនស៊ីសាមុតនិងរស់សេរីសុទ្ធាក៏មានបទចៅដកនេះដែរ ហើយន័យចៅដកក្នុងបទនោះគឺជាបុរសម្នាក់ឈ្មោះដកដែលតែងតែដករបស់របរ។ អ្វីដែលជារបស់យើងកុំលើកឲ្យគេ។

@@daty4578 ខ្ញុំនិយាយនៅលើនោះ គឺនិយាយតែពីពាក្យចៅដកតែមួយគត់។ សូមបញ្ជាក់ថាពាក្យចៅក្នុងបរិបទនេះមិនមែនពាក្យចៅរបស់ថៃទេ ដូចជាយើងហៅថាចៅចិត្រអីអ៊ីចឹង។ បទមហោរីមានឈ្មោះចៅច្រើនណាស់ ដូចជាចៅដួង ចៅព្រាហ្មណ៍ផងដែរ។ ហើយចំពោះចៅដក គឺដូចខ្ញុំនិយាយខាងលើ ចៅដកនេះជាឈ្មោះតូអង្គក្នុងបទចម្រៀងដែលតែងតែដករបស់នេះរបស់នោះ ទើបគេហៅគាត់ថាចៅដកទៅ។ បើនិយាយពីប្រភពបទចម្រៀង ផ្អែកតាម gamme ដូរ្យដន្ត្រី អាចនិយាយបានថាបទនេះមានលក្ខណ:ខ្មែរច្រើនណាស់។ គួរកត់សម្គាល់ថា​ កម្រមានបទមហោរីណាដែលមានប្រភពពីសៀមណាស់ ពីព្រោះមិនមានឈ្មោះសៀមនៅក្នងសំនៀងភាសាបទមហោរីទេ​ (ឧទាហរណ៍ មានបទ ខ្មែរឡើងព្រះពន្លា​ ឡាវឆោមចន្ទ ជ្វាដើរទេស ចិនដំដែក តែមិនមានសៀមធ្វើអ្វីមួយនោះទេ)។ ឈ្មោះបទមហោរីគឺអន្តរជាតិហើយ ពីព្រោះខ្មែរ ថៃ ឡាវ ដែលប្រគុំបទមហោរីសុទ្ធតែរក្សាឈ្មោះបទដូចគ្នា។

Tiki Taka so me the original one . Which years this song come out idiot. Go asked your teacher who copy who ?

Are you sure ? Khmer language is old but not old enough to be a one in the great language of this world . Khmer is a small group language for today .Khmer is not an origin of every thing in this world , please forget about the fake dream of greatness of the Khmer 's past.

@mickey charlie25 អត់ទោសសូមលុបcommentនេះចេញទៅ