‘Eight Passengers' Influencer Recorded Her Anti-Satan Efforts in Journal | Ruby Franke Case Analysis 

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“Not today, Ruby!”

@@LopfffNotttt todayyyy 😣

As it’s said, “Abso-effing-lutely!”

Ruby was telling her son to ask Satan to help him .. he should ‘ve said I did but you still haven’t help me good one DR Grande 😂😂😂😂 .. her son is awesome young man filled with strength he literally saved his sister life by escaping. 😊

She was without sin. So of course she didn’t have to starve herself. Such a horrid, horrible person.

Actually Ruby Franke's siblings say that they received similar food deprivation and abuse as a child.... It's a cycle. That's why she thought it was normal and sees nothing wrong with her actions. She still needs to pay tho.

She actually did though. There was a single entry in her journal that said "one day of fasting and prayer for me after finding out my children are the spawn of Satan" or something like that. Cute eh.

Jodi looked well feed at the time of her arrest. It's stunning that these monsters thought they did nothing wrong. Imagine to use God's name when abusing children.

@@NauerBauerWhy is jodie fat and not walking during the arrest but rolling? is ruby blind? yes we know mentally challenged nothing to be done there. But it is literally impossible to miss jodie, the bodycams i couldnt even see anything but Jodie even when i used a 10000inch tv screen didnt work, and she Does Not Even Walk. She ROLLS.

Narcissist always make no-win situations for their victims.

So true

He missed "Ruby was no diamond."

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And really does little to explain such evil. There have been some shocking cases this past couple years, some folk seem totally removed from humanity.

They would have buried them quietly in the desert I'm afraid. Said they ran away if anyone noticed.

Correction: bag ie singular because the kids were both so skinny they could fit in one bag.

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@@lynnlynn9124 oh man. I knew they were super emaciated but that comment just hit hard.

@@BabyKangaroo279the pictures are haunting. You can see his bones so clearly.

I hope they are getting the help they need to overcome the mental wounds those monsters inflicted on them

There would still be many issues to overcome for those kids plus the 2 older ones who must have been aware of what was going on.

@@jillstanton9974all of them, after so many years of exploitation, emotionally unavailable parents and cruelty, those 6 kids and young adults will spend the rest of their lives healing their childhood. I hope they know they are valuable, lovable and they have people around the world rooting for them.

If only it was that easy….

How do you know this information? I hope it’s true.

Which is not very professional at all

​@@salvolondonprofessional doesn't mean having no emotions... lmao? Where did you do your psychology degree/post grad/placement?

Mormon mothers do not work…

Both Ruby and Kevin were raised in the Mormon church and raised in this same way. The first family in the Book of Mormon talks about Lehi cursing 2 of his children that wouldn't partake in the teachings of the book of Mormon and subsequently made half his children into cursed evil scapegoats and the others golden children. Makes sense why many in the church raise their children the same way. Its sick.

Also outrageously narcissistic, unable to comprehend the very possibility that she's wrong. She was drunk on that feeling of being boundlessly RIGHT.

It’s going to take so much love and therapy for all of them, including Chad. She’s an evil freak monster. I question Kevin as well. Even he didn’t know he still defends her.

Oh yeah. Total Lori Vallow/Chad Daybell vibe.

They would have died if they ad been taken to Arizona.

These poor kids will never really get over this. The parents (yes the Dad too) have destroyed their entire lives

"Ruby thought she was casting Satan out, but Ruby was still there" so true. Thankfully the Utah DOC has control of Satan, she's their problem for a few years.

What?

What kind of questions would even make someone have to choose..

@@elianazuniga6541yes. R told her, " I’d rather have a glass of water than you as a mom.

@@grachisol8236 That singular statement should get them both the maximum term. She would have let those kids die in her delusional pursuit to cast out evil.

Thanks for the update from Utah! 🤗🇲🇽

Ruby basically got a plea deal. Jody was doing this to other families in one form or another, so she was a bigger target.

I really hope the minor children are in a good home. Sometimes foster homes aren't the best atmosphere either. 😢

Makes one wonder if the older children went through the same abuse. Why was she so horrible to the two youngest? What an insane, evil woman!

@@Bluemoonfarm17 They all were abused in one way or another.

I hope Ruby gets a good therapist.

Hopefully the judge will give her a lot more than that.

I suspect some fellow inmates will be disgusted by this light punishment too.

@@janegardener1662 The judge passed the buck to parole officers. 4 years minimum, 30 years maximum. Every year after Year 2, she is up for parole assement, if she behaves.

I hope this journal gives her the full maximum 30 years!!

Agree

He said at one time RU-vid was 90% of their income. But where did Jodi get her money? I don't know any counselors who live in million dollar mansions.

Yes he is totally culpable. As is the lds church!

@@tallblonde1976Mormon church business baby, tons of money being funneled to her thru that source I’d bet

I pray Kevin doesn't get custody of any of the children.

The husband is just as guilty of abusing the kids, he should be in prison too

I can only answer this as someone who has a family member with diagnosed psychosis: psychosis in based in FEAR. When a person slips into a psychosis state they lose complete touch with reality and their actions are not under their own control. They're unaware of what they're doing, usually forget what they're doing afterwards, and cannot justify their actions during or after the fact. Ruby has proven in the journals that she is choosing her actions, knows what she is doing, can justify to herself what she is doing, and happily recounts what she is doing for praise. Psychosis is a psychological issue that people suffering from it cannot control and they're innocent victims of a brain issue. Following religious teachings because you desperately want someone, whether it's a fat 40-something woman who's hated by everyone she's come across or it's your sky daddy, to tell you that you're a special little girl (both Kevin and her sisters have outlined that from a young age Ruby was desperate for attention and praise from ANYONE she came across) is a choice. We need to stop giving a$$holes 'has a mental health issue' as a justification when really they're just wastes of oxygen.

When he said that, I laughed out loud! He has some witty jabs here and there lately, hope he keeps them coming.

She'll get real justice from the prisoners..... They take an extremely dim view of child abusers as many cons were victims of abuse themselves, making a normal life impossible. So when an opportunity for payback arises, they will jump at it, getting satisfaction from the distribution of justice even if it's on behalf of another.

Yup, for sure … sentence range in yrs seems to be from 4-60yrs for four convictions… so give her the full SIXTY YEARS to give her time to process what she has done by personally risking the lives of her own children with her own hands by being manipulated … but even SIXTY YEARS may not be enough for that … may God keep all our eyes on Jesus … and is this so called church or The Temple being investigated? … if not, WHY NOT?

Part of her sentence should be that she have a webcam trained on her prison cell 24/7.

While being in prison she should as well be evaluated by a forensic psychiatrist becasue honestly her case reminds me orf the Yates case.

That’s a funny but brilliant analogy👍

With your powers combined I am Captain Childabuse!

she was also Mormon and I noticed a lot of stories always happen with Mormons. I wonder if this is normal and their religion

@@jessicamarie8299 Take the 2nd m out of Mormons and there's the answer. 😂😂

Mormons are a mixed bag. Sadly Ruby and her parents are already playing up the whole repentance thing and in Utah pretending to be a good Mormon is a good strategy to get out of jail early. I have a feeling she will walk early. @@jessicamarie8299

Young man? He was a child of age 12.

@@MsSilverTulip It's just a term of endearment to call boys. It's nice.

I agree, because I watched the video where police detained Ruby's OTHER partner in crime, PAM. As Ruby was being arrested, her 2 teenage daughters were at Pam's "scrubbing floors" and cleaning house, as Ruby regularly loaned them out to work as slaves for Pam. Pam had been detained in order for the 2 girls to be taken into the custody of Child Services. But the girls acted really weird. They should have been happy to be rescued from those monsters. Instead, the youngest one appeared to be plotting to RUN, and neither girl ever said a word. They really were brainwashed to believe horrible things, with one of those things being that Police are all evil and dangerous. They are to be feared and avoided. I'm so glad the 12 year old boy hadn't completely bought into that garbage like his 2 sisters had.

@@Boogiebear-1965 Pam is a weirdo too. Who in the heck puts kids to work when they come to your home. When I have kids over I make sure they've got something to eat and to drink and point them towards things like the trampoline or the TV.

I noticed that, too. We usually talk about our convictions as to being “until the day *I* die.” I’ll love / protect you until the day I die. I lost my own son and even when we knew I would outlive him, I couldn’t say what she said. Like, I would say “I will always be here for you.” I could not say “until the day you die.” Conclusion: disassociated monster. Glad she’s in prison where everyone is safe from her and her messed up “religion.”

She was a Lori vallow in the making!!!!

That statement by Ruby made my jaw drop. Her anger and need for control is not something that can be changed after such a short time.

How was that not enough to charge for attempted of murder?

I noticed that also! “Until the day YOU die.” Most parents expect their children to outlive them and they want their children to outlive them! This crazy nut needs to stay in prison for at least 20 years!!!

Right cause that helps so many ! Lmao wow

​@@Woodworkingwwoodyoh okay...so they won't need any help then?

@@Woodworkingwwoody You do realize Dr. Grande is a psychotherapist, don't you?

@@user-bm7vl7rt5o yes so please show me success stories .

I seriously don't think religious people should be allowed to have kids. If you have imaginary friends, you're not stable enough to properly raise kids. One day (hopefully sooner than later), belief in religion will be looked at as a mental illness it is, and teaching such nonsense to kids will be considered child abuse, like it is.

Ikr? I was conned, too.

It would not surprise me at all if Jodi has some of the same friends as Lori and Chad. Jodi had read some of Chad Daybell's books and was apparantly influenced by his book " Visions of Glory".

Classic narcissistic projection

Yes, and that should have been the clue that she herself is the devil.

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Vampires have no reflection.

Yes! Like Dana Carvey's "Church Lady" on SNL would say, "How CONVEEEEEENIENT!"

Agreed. Her talking about that prosecutor made me sick. If he is that stupid, I feel sorry for her children.

I see so many similarities between ruby and my father. He was able to manipulate his way through anything. He even could convince the local police to partake in the abuse of me when the neighbors called the cops from hearing children scream. He convinced every school counselor I was mistreating HIM, as if a literal kindergartner could abuse a 30 year old man. I would always be telling people what he’d do but he could always convince them it was the other way around. I think she’s just one of those people that can manipulate almost anyone. I don’t know how people fall for it cause I see right through that kind of BS.

It's hard to go up against the Mormons in Utah. Ruby is a wealthy Mormon and Jody is extremely tight with the high muck-a-mucks in the Mormon hierarchy. Almost impossible to get justice if you're fighting against those favored by with Mormon Church authorities.

Ruby is much better looking. That explains it.

For Ruby's own safety, she would be better off staying behind bars... 🤬

LDS parents by any chance?

There’s no child abuse like kkkristian child abuse.

Saw a little quote recently where a constructive person was trying to reach an abusive parent and said, "Don't forget, your children are your biographers". No wonder some abusive parents want subconsciously for their children to die prematurely so to hide the truth of the wickedness. During a time when I had some therapy, the medcheck nurse on duty said "Our parents try to kill us and we try to finish the job". Hardly believable but that's so much of the human experience out there and I still struggle believing my own experiences as there was so much trickery involved.

@@whalesong999 I'm so sorry you had bad experiences. I had wonderful parents, and so did all the other kids in my neighborhood. We were all so lucky. It's very hard for me to imagine a parent doing this to a kid. I love my kids more than anything. I just don't get it.

Yep. They'd have been buried in the desert within weeks if I had to guess. Eventually... I bet they'd (kids) have snapped (if they had the strength)... rage was building up in those poor kids... as you'd expect.

@@theshadylady1982 That's exactly what I think, too. They thought it was a suitable place to make the kids disappear.

She's so cruel I *call* her Cruelty. I don't think she deserves a pretty precious jewel name when her children were so not precious to her that they've ended up in official paperwork, horrible paperwork with a lot of redactions, just named by their initials.

I know, right??? I absolutely loved it when I heard that!

@@jenne8180I smirked when I saw that… Having a 12 year-old boy myself this hit me hard… I pray both women are being ‘welcomed’ by their fellow inmates as new prisoners often are when it’s found out they’re responsible for have abusing children. Such terror these poor kids must have endured…

Personally I hope prison is purgatory for Ruby and Jodi.

When I was 13 yro, my Chemistry teacher handed me "A Child Called It" which had just been published 2 years before. That book taht gift, saved my life. I was able to call CPS and they investigated. I was given a severe beat down with a water hose and cold water, but after that, I was able to leverage threat of CPS to make the being put in the "box" a thing of the past. And I learned for the first tiem I wasn't alone in beign abused, which was far more important to me.

Many don't. I'm one of the lucky ones. But our life and potential life was destroyed. We can never be what we should have been.

They dont..

​@@hopeseekr🙄

It's gonna be a very tough road for them. This type of abuse was inflicted during the most formative years of their life. The effects will reveal itself in various stages over the course of many years to come.

No matter how bad we think it is, it's actually WAAAYYYY worse.

@@mareelovelyright. Think of all the things we don’t know. Won’t know. All the things that could’ve come out in trial. Glad the kids didn’t have to go thru court but I imagine there is so much more we haven’t even begun to comprehend. But we can all agree she is terrible and will never admit she was wrong outside of wanting a light sentence. AND her and Jodi have tons of supporters. The jail calls show that clearly.

Amen!

Did you see the cage in the room? 😢

The grotesque irony of the a "safe room" being a torture den. Reminds me of something Gobbels would do during WWII. The showers weren't really showers.

This is what religious faith can do to your mind. You start seeing demons everywhere.

Thank you for the warning. I was curious, but I'll pass reading those journals.

I mean what did you expect? You should expect it without the trigger warning. You know what you're reading about

@@elianazuniga6541exactly! This person is accused of abuse. Certainly her journal wouldn’t be filled with rainbows and happiness. She is a disturbed individual.

I don't think that's the lesson or priority here.

​@@hydrostatic8048people like her torture and kill animals... whatever they can get away with.

I agree ! She might believe they too are posessed!

Absolutely not.

Or kids

Exactly!

If that's not the sign of a demonic sadistic narcissist, then I don't know what is! 😢

And yet they knew enough not to post everything that they did to their kids, so clearly she knew there were elements of her treatment wouldn't float with the public, so is that awareness of wrongdoing? I believe it is.

@@sovereignbrehon it’s painful how much sense you’re making

That 1st escape proves she knew how wrong she was. Desperately trying to find him before daylight so no one would see his condition. What rotten people.

​@@dirtinmyeye6505Well, I mean, was she NOT supposed to look for him??

@@graedotnot out of fear of getting caught by police because his body showed signs of torture she caused with her bare hands lol

@graedot yes of course. But it is spelled out in her journal how important it was to find him before daylight so people didn't see him. I think she even mentioned they would be arrested if anyone saw him.

@@dirtinmyeye6505 I couldn't agree more that the 1st attempt shows how scared she is of getting caught. I just think the fact that this poor kid, over and over, chooses the "threat" of jail, that his mother has told him is the alternative, shows how thoroughly broken he is in those moments when he walks away. ...and that he would still leave a note of pebbles saying he'll call from jail, so his mother knows where he's at and that he made it, exposes just how Innocent of a child he is in that very same moment. 💔

Absolutely heart-wrenching to hear that call. I'm a near 50-year male with a strong constitution for human-horror, but I was shedding tears when I heard the empathy and shock in his voice. 😢 Truly one of the heroes in this sordid affair. 💚

He actually was in tears. He broke down on that phone call. It was hard to listen to:

RF did what he did out of instinct. He believed he was bad and belonged in jail. He believed his " mother." He thought HE was the one hurting her and his sister.

Ruby filed a restraining order against Kevin to keep him away from the children, and then moved them to Jody's compound without telling him where they were. He didn't see them for a year.

Kevin deserted his children for over a year, even though he knew how sadistic his wife and Jody were. He did not check on them, he actively supported and condoned the abuse of his children. Finally, he made no attempt to report the abuse to authorities.😢Why is he not in jail?

@@jeananthony8541 They had more hard evidence on Rudy and Jodi. I know he deserved punishment as well. , but It was clear Rudy physically and emotionally abused her children. There was way more evidence of that with her than him , I believe.

@@Sleepparalysisdemon2 - I still think Kevin should face some consequences- maybe something like child abandonment.

True, she is a kook that should rot in jail for the rest of her useless life.

Did you hear her jail phone call where she wasn't worried about an psychological on her because she's fine. 🤬

It went far beyond the neglect. Ruby used water boarding on 9 year old EF as a torture method, shaved her head as a punishment and Jodie threw her into a cactus. Ruby covered RF's mouth and nose so he couldn't breathe, hog tied him until he had deep, infected wounds from the rope burn and dressed the wounds with honey and cayenne pepper. The children were tortured.

So I have an answer: She got into a romantic thing with that other woman, and they kicked him out of the house then moved to a remote part of Utah, after she filed a fictious Restraining No Contact order against him. He wasn't allowed to talk to the kids or even know where they were living. He hadn't been able to speak to them in over a year.

Finally someone bringing this up because I'm well curious as to why he isn't even a thing in all of this.

​@@hopeseekr Thank you that makes total sense. I can only imagine how he feels now. Let's hope he gets another chance to be with his children.

@@ShawnDrymen It was the no-contact restraining order. The guy was pretty defeated and he's obviously on the submissive side, as any husband of such a terrible woman must be. The abuse didn't ratchet to the 11th degree until he was out of the picture. Obviously, he restrained her somewhat.

He is at least prob going to be charged with child abandonment. As they were not devorced and he just peaced out.

And broke confidentiality HIPPA by going to a client's Mormon Bishop and disclosing information from their therapy sessions without consent. She was sanctioned by DOPL, but never lost her license.

Yes, and Not with their father.

Same here!

Rubi sounds like a typical trump supporter.

@@johnnygoodman2003 really sad that some people want to bring politics into things that have nothing to do with politics, Troll.

@oceanstaiga... you are quite correct.

My thoughts exactly! Their own mother! The person you should be able to trust most in your life! These poor babies

It's exactly like the VanderArk case.

Dogs make better mothers than some of these idiots

Shanda Vander Ark is more horrific to me, for some reason. I can see where Ruby was on a mental slippery slope with her religious delusions but Shanda seemed to be fueled just by pure hate for her disabled son. The way she manipulated her older son (who i also believe is on the spectrum) to partake in the abuse and and actively tried to come up with more and more disturbing ways to torture Tim is downright horrific. Even while on the stand, she insisted that Tim was on a 'hunger strike' towards the end of his life vs actually admitting that she starved him to death. At least Ruby took (or at least pretended to) accountability. Truly, truly horrific.

There seem to be quite a few cases lately of mothers/parents starving their children. I don't understand what they could possibly be thinking? How does one get through the day knowing what they are doing?

I was just thinking that. They should share a cell.

Not a young man, RF is a child and was 12 when this occurred

Dogget from Orange is the New Black, when you order her from Wish.

God's love is not abusive.

@@user-zl4rr1ic7w We wage wars in God's name.

I dont think psychosis is rational.

They were very rational in their covering up and choosing the most vulnerable children to do this

Why did Kevin leave Ruby in control of the children knowing all the weird stuff that was going on . He should have fought harder for those kids !!

@@jillstanton9974 right, he didn’t fight harder because he had the same belief system and was perfectly fine with what was going on. He followed Jodi too. Some people are giving him a pass on everything and saying they hope he gets his kids back which I don’t understand. No one knows how many of those crazy beliefs he may still have? Of coarse he wouldn’t admit that he does now that his wife is in prison but people don’t go from that level of delusion to being all better that quick. Just because he was brainwashed enough to leave when they said leave doesn’t mean he should get a pass. He participated in plenty of the craziness and even called himself the “resident exorcist.” He was also very delusional he just wasn’t one of the ringleaders and it would be dangerous to give him those kids back after all they have been through imo.

THIS. When I read Jodi was apparently deemed to be “possessed” at some point, that sounded so odd to me how they could trust her judgement when dealing with their kids..?

They can both be equally horrific. It's not the abuse Olympics.

“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.” As quoted from a Hitchens speech. I suppose alcohol can encourage a bad person to become uninhibited and do evil. Religion does the same thing, and no alcohol is required. A bad person can use the suspension of disbelief, where the ridiculous becomes the possible, driven by unseen “demons” from their evil imagination.

​@@greenbrain8725 B.S, Good people do bad things for all sorts of reasons. Athiests just love to be bigots.

this is literally the plot of The Binding of Isaac. crazy hyper-Christian mother hears a "voice from above" one day and believes that God is talking to her and telling her to "save" (abuse) her child, taking away everything that would bring him happiness, locking him in his room with no clothes or toys, and finally resorting to killing him with a sacrificial dagger to eradicate Satan's corruption. in the game, depending on the path you take, Isaac's mother could die by having a Bible fall on her head, or Isaac could lock himself in a chest and die of suffocation, or be permanently never seen again(portrayed by a missing poster for Isaac floating in the wind), just to name a few of the endings. i'm glad in real life these kids were able to escape the abuse and are hopefully now doing better far, far away from this monster. i hope they are also receiving therapy and all the support they need to heal and move past this extremely traumatic time in their life.

Idk personally I would have preferred my parents to be drunk, at least it would explain away some of their evil behavior. Doing some of the things they did stone cold sober is much more twisted and sick. ​@@elianazuniga6541