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Josh Gates, host of the Discovery show "Expedition Unknown,” was planning to take a trip on OceanGate’s Titan submersible and film an episode, but ultimately decided against it. He joins “CUOMO” to explain why.
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@P1nkBanj0
@P1nkBanj0 Год назад
Sad for the families, glad for Josh Gates. So glad your intuition told you 'this isn't for me'. ❣
@RodCornholio
@RodCornholio Год назад
Josh made a simple, but insightful, risk calculation: that the risk _was incalculable_ . Although he didn't say it explicitly, one can imply that Josh figured that the risk _could_ be too great. Good call.
@blackwidor
@blackwidor Год назад
You communicate information so beautifully in this comment.
@sd906238
@sd906238 Год назад
Glad he did and very glad he is still around.
@Gazzi79
@Gazzi79 Год назад
Yeah it's crazy! Glad Josh felt Titan's a death trap and followed his gut instinct. Loves Expedition unknown.
@NP-co7kj
@NP-co7kj Год назад
Like he said, it could be pressure cycle fatigue. The comet airliner in the 1950s broke up in the sky. 7 broke up and they finally did cycle pressure tests and determined they all broke up from metal fatigue from the pressure cycles. All these submarines should be tested in the same way.
@peterbarrett5496
@peterbarrett5496 Год назад
I thought this was a new one
@realnapster1522
@realnapster1522 Год назад
Yes. That’s why Soviets used Titanium hulls. It gets stronger under pressure.
@Peace123-sp1ej
@Peace123-sp1ej Год назад
@@peterbarrett5496 It actually went down to Titanic wreck sites 3 times according to google. It had also went to other dives at different depths. That's why people talked about pressure and temperature cycles of how the Titan could withstand due to it is made of carbon fiber and titanium.
@worldwidestuff5567
@worldwidestuff5567 Год назад
Who knows, ALL guessing at this time. Pressure Hull could have been fine but they had an onboard electrical fire inside and the hull was compromised in that way. Even the experts don't know just yet.
@NP-co7kj
@NP-co7kj Год назад
@@Resh.. Excellent post!
@vickieriley2231
@vickieriley2231 Год назад
Thank God he didn’t go God is with you Josh keep listening to him And God bless you always
@ariannefowler455
@ariannefowler455 Год назад
There are risks in everything, but when you sign on to do an excursion with a company you expect that that company has done everything they can to ensure passenger safety. You expect the company to get outside inspections, you expect them to get all the certifications and classifications they need, and to run numerous tests. You expect a company to be completely transparent about those tests and inspections. It doesn't sound like Oceangate did any of this. It was never registered as a commercial submersible which prevented it from having to meet certain regulations. Risk? Yes, but this goes beyond normal risk.
@OUTTA-TYME88
@OUTTA-TYME88 Год назад
People let alone tourist should not have been allowed on an experimental and uncertified sub. Completely unethical
@NormGagnon
@NormGagnon Год назад
I'm very sorry for this unfortunate incident and sadden for the family of these passengers. Josh, I'm glad you're still with us my friend, your series is my favorite weekly hour.
@alesia1728
@alesia1728 Год назад
❤ love Josh Gates
@IguanaMom
@IguanaMom Год назад
Me too!
@diffened
@diffened Год назад
I don't think the Titanic had great personal meaning for the19 year old or his father, or Stockton Rush, for that matter, or Hamish Hardy. Would you want to fly on an experimental airplane that hadn't been certified by any agency to get to a tourist destination?
@strengthofa1000
@strengthofa1000 Год назад
Rush's wife was a great granddaughter of Titanic victims. There is literally a direct connection. The Pakistani was a Titanic nut. There is connection and likely part of reason for the risk taken. Hindsight is 20/20. No excuse for stockton rush's arrogance and greed though.
@markbuck9299
@markbuck9299 Год назад
If josh was not committed to going to titanic !! That says something !! He has done a lot of crazy stuff in his career
@Gazzi79
@Gazzi79 Год назад
Yeah he's a adventurous daredevil who will do any dangerous stuff for his tv show......the scary part is he actually did a test dive once but obviously during the dive he noticed something was wrong with Titan and decided not to go ahead filming titanic for his tv show so yeah thankfully this time he followed his gut instinct. I would never go in any submersible if I was offered $1bm! lol
@sinistan1002
@sinistan1002 Год назад
wow did that guy dodge a bullet at least someone had a clue more than a few someone's but not enough
@rickybye644
@rickybye644 11 месяцев назад
Josh is the man!! His shows are great!
@channarosenblatt8197
@channarosenblatt8197 Год назад
Excellent interview. Really good research. Thank you, Chris Cuomo.
@jcg1576
@jcg1576 3 месяца назад
I’m glad Josh Gates recognize how risky it would have been to be on board the ill fated Titan submersible in any extreme deep sea dive due to its likely and apparent inability to hold up against the extreme pressure of the deep sea. I like Josh Gates shows Expedition Unknown and Expedition X. Josh Gates might be seen as an extremist or risk taker but he always seems to acknowledge and appreciate the risks and dangers of any expedition he takes to dangerous environments he visits. He is right in saying exploration will go on and the Titanic will continue to fascinate people. He is right in saying that the lesson and mistakes of the Titan submersible tragedy must be learned from and the safety of human life must be the most important thing despite any and all risks that come with exploring dangerous and or hostile environments.
@suzanbeverlyhills2310
@suzanbeverlyhills2310 Год назад
Josh Gate 🙏🏻God bless
@sandymurray9829
@sandymurray9829 Год назад
Not one thing unreasonable or out of line with his perspective too many unknowns that could have should have been remedied first. This disaster had a better chance of never happening then.
@peu1285
@peu1285 Год назад
What he said reminded me of why there are people who didn't want the vax
@heartbreakkid8708
@heartbreakkid8708 Год назад
Thank you
@worldwidestuff5567
@worldwidestuff5567 Год назад
Amazing how many assumptions are being made with absolutely no clue or evidence. Sad. Josh Gates seems cool tho'
@TMikrutMusic
@TMikrutMusic Год назад
He said it about as good as you can, respect
@thepatri0tprncess489
@thepatri0tprncess489 Год назад
Can't stand Cuomo, but I love me some josh gates!! He put it perfectly
@richarddavis4954
@richarddavis4954 Год назад
I'm so very glad he did, finally able to watch the show legally in Australia , really enjoy the show
@victoriaporter4025
@victoriaporter4025 4 месяца назад
At lease, they can’t say Josh is crazy! I think Josh has the right to pick and choose is missions! Love you Josh!!!
@BigSteve_Gaming187
@BigSteve_Gaming187 4 месяца назад
Smart call Josh. Gotta be there for your family as well. Air pressure and temperature are different from water pressure and temperature.
@ZuluLifesaBeech-
@ZuluLifesaBeech- Год назад
My condolences to the family and friends of the 44 Argentine Sailors killed on sub ARA San Juan. 🇦🇷 In 2017 you barely made the news. 😑
@summermaclean7480
@summermaclean7480 Год назад
LovevJosh Wilson!!!!!!
@danerickson1632
@danerickson1632 Год назад
Remote control that Sub on many dives to work out the flaws before a Human rides that gauntlet of extreme pressures and temperatures
@tonybino01
@tonybino01 3 месяца назад
Bravery and determination doesn't always mean adventure. Stupidity like Stockton Rush also happens.
@danborowicz758
@danborowicz758 Месяц назад
It could have been down without a crew for test run. Skipped some important safety steps.
@ProductShroomz
@ProductShroomz Год назад
Why is Chris on this channel? Didn’t he get fired from CNN???
@bugmouthready529
@bugmouthready529 Месяц назад
Passed on this video as soon as I saw Cuomo's deceitful mug
@abbaby555
@abbaby555 Год назад
It's kinda like how many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie pop!
@Seattlez
@Seattlez Год назад
Cumo is on News Nation.... yikes... I'd rethink that idea
@scot60
@scot60 Месяц назад
Smart man
@gully8029
@gully8029 Месяц назад
It may not be my place to say, but isn’t it in poor taste to use Titanic as a tourist attraction? I understand studying it, but Titanic was a tragic moment in history where so many people died.
@snapdragon8610
@snapdragon8610 11 дней назад
Good for you Josh! No since in possible death! That thing is not safe!
@KeithHoward-y8z
@KeithHoward-y8z 2 месяца назад
😇⚜️😇🦅✝️-Amen!
@johnnychimpo7539
@johnnychimpo7539 Год назад
They keep saying that going down there shows a lot of courage…I would go down there cuz I don’t give a fuck
@AdverbsAndNouns
@AdverbsAndNouns Год назад
Yes seriously I would love to see titanic..but I'm going to go on those hardcore Russian machines..top of the line
@MrLookitspam
@MrLookitspam Месяц назад
Just glad you refused
@scottlund4562
@scottlund4562 28 дней назад
Whew!
@Darrin-el8gf
@Darrin-el8gf 7 месяцев назад
Not that we as viewers don't love the idea of finding monsters and ghosts in places where even small ticks can paralyze for weeks, it isn't however productive to show the four frinded party being sucked out of the window of a third world country byplane while looking for haroin smugglers who the natives call "the Thing" 🙂 please be careful and have safe travels 🙂
@rays9033
@rays9033 Год назад
My heart breaks for the families and friends of these poor souls. With regards to Cuomo, I wish he would stay off RU-vid…and any other media platform. The families and viewers deserve a more respectable person to speak of this tragedy.
@raginald7mars408
@raginald7mars408 Год назад
... the Cu Omo Brothers crashed the flight of Icarus successfully... they both KNOW - the Arro Gance to feel invincible... Those Icaruses breed themselves
@jessgunn6639
@jessgunn6639 Год назад
if you go to sea you learn to be superstitious! the sub is called the "titan" going down looking at the "titanic" a ship that famously sank in an almost prophetic realisation of a book written years earlier about a ship sinking called the "titan", sorry but even without being superstitious i would not have been going down in that sub.
@MrPhife333
@MrPhife333 Год назад
Bravery means nothing if it's paired with stupidity. Stupidity usually trumps bravery, and this situation is just another example of that. The fact is, the people who engineered this sub didn't do their homework. They could have tested unmanned versions of this sub repeatedly to get more data for a better design. They could have also plumbed the depths (no pun intended) of the U.S. Navy's expertise on these types of submersibles, thus using available (and probably hard earned) data to improve their designs. Once they worked their way through several iterations of this tech, they could have then provided a much better level of safety for their endeavors. They should have done it the way Elon Musk and Space X do it: Create rapid interations of new tech and test, test, test, until you get it right. THEN you put people on board! Safety still isn't guaranteed, but it's a much better bet - a risk worth taking as it were.
@dme1016
@dme1016 Год назад
Dude never really finds anything on the show.....
@onedayapp3534
@onedayapp3534 Год назад
Why does he look like a cartoon?
@Andrew-tf8jt
@Andrew-tf8jt Год назад
Meanwhile at exactly the same time three boats full of refugees went down they knew where they were and nobody lifted a finger to help I guess there weren't any millionaires on board.
@bendover6987
@bendover6987 Год назад
Why are so many whales dying ?
@stephaniecostello2262
@stephaniecostello2262 Год назад
The line that was crossed was taking passengers (even despite signed waivers) before adequate testing.
@audreydaleski1067
@audreydaleski1067 Год назад
He refused advice and he refused to be certified.
@RobCarlew
@RobCarlew Год назад
Exactly! Calling the passengers “mission specialists”, doesn’t make them experts. Oceangate can call them that, making them seem important, if they want. Truly they were just tourists, with the exception of Nargolet.
@pageribe2399
@pageribe2399 7 месяцев назад
It was like sending passengers up in an experimental airplane with a test pilot.
@gnlilu6972
@gnlilu6972 Год назад
"You couldn't even assess the risk." Ugh! Strong words!
@teresaharris-travelbybooks5564
I really liked what Josh said and he seemed more knowledgeable about the mechanics of it, than I was expecting.
@DavidTMSN
@DavidTMSN Год назад
My man said "this is not for me" after first hand experience with the Harbor Freight submersible. I would say he made the right call.
@ElaineWood-f2t
@ElaineWood-f2t Год назад
Josh Gates is right. This terrible tragedy needs to be investigated to find out what happened and how to prevent such horrible things from happening in the future.
@JC-rf6di
@JC-rf6di Год назад
Just sent robot and don't put people in there. No matter how much you prepare and how safe it is, there is always some risk involved. Unless they build a underwater station next to titanic, slightly safer maybe
@JohnDoe-vy5hh
@JohnDoe-vy5hh Год назад
No way. Send divers. Lol
@LWRC
@LWRC Год назад
There is nothing to investigate - that sub was never certified for life safety for 4000 meters depth at 6000PSI water pressure!!! For life safety, the entire sub should have been tested to 3X or 5X of maximum pressure so that means certifying at 18,000PSI minimum!!! It wasn't! It wasn't even tested at 6000PSI pressure!!!!
@NP-co7kj
@NP-co7kj Год назад
Certification should not be optional.
@deankruse2891
@deankruse2891 Год назад
Risk is acceptable though, it’s the fact that methods that have not been proven were utilized to service a tourist expedition that needs to be prevented. We cannot mitigate all risk, or we would never get out of bed. It’s very dangerous just I be on a boat in the north atlantic
@TheGuitarded1
@TheGuitarded1 Год назад
CEO should've hired those "50-year old white guys" with good resumes instead of the "young, inspiring" and "diverse" recruits that had no clue what they were doing.
@JINXIENG
@JINXIENG Год назад
For real. Yeah I get younger kids younger minds and fresh ideas but they obviously lack experience and they don't get paid as much as the experts but there are experts for a reason. The first time I went under water cave diving my friends and I had 2 40 something year old experts with us even though I'm a really good diver I had never been deep cave diving and just like with the titan new experiences need experts to insure safety.
@Childfree334
@Childfree334 Год назад
To be fair, 50 year old white guys with good resumes designed, built, and sailed the Titanic as well. Look what happened to it.
@robingamel9788
@robingamel9788 2 месяца назад
No dei! Look at us now.
@facehunter504
@facehunter504 Год назад
I’m glad Josh didn’t get on that Death Tube ran by a controller from $5 & Below!
@minniemaklingham4255
@minniemaklingham4255 Год назад
This man is an absolute legend.. My heart goes out to the entire families of the five Victims .. Very sad 😢💔🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊
@Spunky1991
@Spunky1991 Год назад
I know he must feel like the luckiest man in the world right now that he passed on that trip. Just like the people who missed making it onto the Titanic itself. Or getting on one of the hijacked planes on 9/11.
@salmaal-shaoily5809
@salmaal-shaoily5809 Год назад
As tragic as this is, this is why you need to not skip on safety being prioritised.
@melodymacken9788
@melodymacken9788 Год назад
Huge risks certainly but not in an uncertified craft in the Atlantic Ocean. RIP. Unforgettable.
@addanametocontinue
@addanametocontinue Год назад
And certainly not with what amounts to paying customers on board.
@kleepo7733
@kleepo7733 Год назад
Some risk is definitely required but a $50 Xbox console to drive the sub is something else. All these rich people taking rides down to the Titanic so where is there money going? It's definitely not towards safety Hopefully this catastrophe will put an end to this billionaire circus ride trip to the Titanic. Let the ship rest in peace. Go find something else to spend your money on.
@barbaraharley3149
@barbaraharley3149 Год назад
This man is talking with common sense may be not today but we need to ask some serious question about the ocean gate sub. Putting people lives at risk is a topic for serious convesation. My condolences goes out to the families of these men
@texasgina
@texasgina Год назад
My coworker and I were just so upset today when we found out that they found the debris she came over from her department and told me and I had been praying so hard and when I woke up this morning and found out they hadn't found them yet I was just devastated you have to have a heart and care about people on this planet even if they are strangers I certainly wouldn't want to be in that situation and I would probably have a breakdown if it were one of my family members
@MinusEighty
@MinusEighty Год назад
You should stop watching the news. People die every day.
@MinusEighty
@MinusEighty Год назад
If rich people have nothing better to do then to try and climb Mount Everest or take a sub to the bottom of the sea, then that is there problem.
@SOLDOZER
@SOLDOZER Год назад
Pray? Why? Theres no invisible man in the sky granting wishes.
@MinusEighty
@MinusEighty Год назад
@@SOLDOZER You don't know what you don't know
@blackwidor
@blackwidor Год назад
​@@SOLDOZER to salve feelings of panic surely?
@Kayluv101
@Kayluv101 Год назад
Imagine how the people who’ve been down there feel knowing that could’ve been them… Very lucky
@CathieG
@CathieG Год назад
Thank God he didn’t go! And I heard another guy didn’t go b/c he had last minute business he had to attend to. Praise the Lord 🙌🏻🙌🏻 Love and prayers for the families and friends of these men 🙏🏼🙏🏼💙💙
@theNfl_Esq
@theNfl_Esq Год назад
I don’t care for como…
@fixento
@fixento Год назад
Isn't this what innovator's do, absolutely but they don't charge people $250,000 under a false pretense its safe and risk their lives.
@bluevwlady
@bluevwlady Год назад
I love you Josh. My condolences to the Titan families.
@worldwidestuff5567
@worldwidestuff5567 Год назад
The only thing known for sure about this accident is that everyone will be suing everyone over it for the next century.
@annbower6278
@annbower6278 Год назад
I don't blame Josh Gates 1 little bit for not going again into that doomed submersible. His gut instinct kicked into high gear & screamed at him to not go......good thing he listened to it.
@Gazzi79
@Gazzi79 Год назад
Josh Gates is a adventurous daredevil who Literally do anything dangerous for a buzz but thankfully he followed his gut instinct! Loves his show Expedition unknown.
@Risteard156
@Risteard156 10 месяцев назад
Cuomo T.V. shows are just wonderful I never missed any of them who never know who will be on or what you will see people keep up the excellent work 💯👍
@nomcognom2414
@nomcognom2414 Год назад
A shocking deal of foolishness seems to have been involved. Grief over the deceased should not stop us from pointing to the numerous ways in which safety was disregarded. The only person where one can try to find some degree of rationality, for him to risk his life so unreasonably, is the French guide. He was a retired submariner, an old man with a fixation over Titanic who happened to be very well paid to dive. So well paid, I guess, he was thinking about his children and grandchildren at least as much as about Titanic. He lost his life as a richer old man than many other French navy officers, probably (though others aren't bad either, at finding extra revenue sources).
@Aashka_The_Mystic
@Aashka_The_Mystic Год назад
That material should have been tested more before doing manned missions.
@snowyriver2448
@snowyriver2448 Год назад
No, carbon fiber under compression is not strong. it's just epoxy.
@boofa1993
@boofa1993 Год назад
Wrong
@conradsieber7883
@conradsieber7883 Год назад
You can begrudge these fools because they caused Coastguard and navy rescue crews to risk their lives. Next narcissist CEO determined to murder people should sign an agreement that no one will going looking for them when their recklessness kills.
@Kathy-bc5yq
@Kathy-bc5yq Год назад
He didn’t deliberately murder anyone. He wouldn’t have been in the sub himself if he thought they wouldn’t make it back alive.
@conradsieber7883
@conradsieber7883 Год назад
@@Kathy-bc5yq I beg to differ malignant narcissists are always where they can be the center of attention...
@Kathy-bc5yq
@Kathy-bc5yq Год назад
@@conradsieber7883 Who says he was a malignant narcissist? As a mental health professional, I certainly would not diagnose someone that I have not done an assessment on personally, nor do I know any other professional who would. Also, I would say in my opinion he may have had some narcissistic traits, but I doubt he was a true narcissist.
@RodCornholio
@RodCornholio Год назад
Josh's necklace was speaking to him.
@ttrev007
@ttrev007 Год назад
I don't think you should be taking tourists in an experimental sub for profit. its one thing to put yourself in danger but it is another to put an put someone who does not really have enough knowledge to consent to the danger. I doubt the passengers were engineers with the understanding of lack of research on carbon fiber and external pressure.
@MW3Jayswoop09
@MW3Jayswoop09 Год назад
I don’t care what anyone says, this dude was a Ponzi scheme on steroids, he made all the passengers feel safe and honestly sent them to there grave with no concern other than them signing a waiver I’m sure that will make him unaccountable in any court. This is sad and they had confidence in this guy and he took advantage of them.
@ianjohnson7646
@ianjohnson7646 Год назад
He is unaccountable because he died in the sub
@barbarakloise6790
@barbarakloise6790 10 дней назад
Wow good thing because he would be "kaput"!
@ThoughtCrimes420
@ThoughtCrimes420 Год назад
The Titanic was the first of its kind too 🤔
@dustinparker9456
@dustinparker9456 Год назад
I believe not only the hull is a cylinder like a soda can. It’s harder to crunch a can on it’s ends without a crease. But easy on it’s wide part with no problem. An egg is almost a sphere in shape had its very hard to break just by squeezing. The cylinder can design was its fatal flaw.
@MarkHahn
@MarkHahn Год назад
Josh Gates is my all-time favorite host. A real Indiana Jones! Josh has some brass ones and I have seen him do dome things that are just bonkers. For him to back out says a lot about those internal feelings that just tell you NO, DONT GO. Very sad indeed. Especially the kid that didn't want to go in the first place.
@bonefishgrill6382
@bonefishgrill6382 Год назад
This dude is now living Final Destination 6 😬
@BonnyBateman
@BonnyBateman Месяц назад
So so happy Josh didn’t go…..love him to bits….
@Eye2Eye24
@Eye2Eye24 Год назад
Its either over use it definitely wasn't engineered correctly...or it was a plot to kill them off. Prior to the descend perhaps the craft was tampered with. Was it the son or a mistress disgruntled employee...must investigate all angles. The son seems suspect.
@lkp7481
@lkp7481 Год назад
In this day in time a sub like this could be operated remotely for its first dives and then do checks on the integrity of the carbon fiber. They could have done 3-4-5 maybe ten dives to the titanic via remote control before putting a single person inside of it.
@bonefishgrill6382
@bonefishgrill6382 Год назад
lol, dude was not "innovative".... he tried to reinvent the wheel....
@Patrick_0n
@Patrick_0n Год назад
Smart man.
@CalvinMorris-cf8jk
@CalvinMorris-cf8jk Год назад
smart man.
@loricharpentier1654
@loricharpentier1654 5 месяцев назад
Good for you Josh.❤
@theresehopkins1581
@theresehopkins1581 Год назад
There's data now.... testing a new idea with passengers (even if you call them "mission specialists") is just careless!!!.... Did they even know they were part of testing the new craft??? 😳 I strongly doubt any of them actually knew the risk they were taking..... Stockton may have been carelessly arrogant, but, he wouldn't have deliberately risked his own life.... he actually believed he knew better... 😔💔💔💔💔💔
@craig7350
@craig7350 Год назад
This submersible seems to be the ultimate design that will deny the carbon fibre body to be put in its position of ultimate strength.. tension. And at the same time to exploit its ultimate weakness.. compression, of which it has little strength. Likely shattered
@enigmarocker
@enigmarocker Год назад
I love Josh Gates
@josiesmalling8460
@josiesmalling8460 Год назад
R I P to all. wow is it why these people are called explorers. I couldn't imagine being squashed into this submersible even on land let alone way under the sea bed. condolences from across the pond
@joannmcgowan9394
@joannmcgowan9394 Год назад
This is so sad
@Mike-01234
@Mike-01234 Год назад
Passengers who are not experts in building subs would expect the company to have the proper certifications, and design. This wasn't about the unknown like getting tangled stuck on the bottom. That is what people thought when they signed that waiver. People don't expect the pressure hull to fail.
@loadedhot1034
@loadedhot1034 Год назад
I seen where someone said that this sub was only rated to go down to 1,300ft not 3,000ft.
@anneheimburger3186
@anneheimburger3186 Год назад
Actually they were to have gone down to the Titanic, which is about 13,000+ feet. (Over 2 miles down).
@mmsharonmm
@mmsharonmm Год назад
the viewport on the sub was only built to a certified pressure of 1,300 meters, even though the Titan intended to go down to 4,000 meters in depth
@peterbarrett5496
@peterbarrett5496 Год назад
@@mmsharonmmsafety factors with equipment could be like x5, which is why he prob risked it
@jonboz7585
@jonboz7585 Месяц назад
Always admired Josh Gates for his adventurous expeditions. I suspected he always weighed the risks and used common sense and scientific data before committing to risky endeavors. Keep up the good work, Josh. You’re much appreciated.
@MarvLloyd-cf1iu
@MarvLloyd-cf1iu 29 дней назад
Close one there Josh , I'm glad to hear that somehow your better judgement kept you safe ! I've followed your Shows whenever I was able always enjoyed it ! Thanks and Stay Safe 🌎🌍
@shawnacostar7540
@shawnacostar7540 Месяц назад
So glad you didn't go god bless the ones who passed ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@sneaksc9767
@sneaksc9767 Месяц назад
Such a phony show..they never find anything....DFIP
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