‘HIS TIME IS UP’ ❌🤬 Jason Cundy & John Barnes CLASH Over Gareth Southgate’s Tactical Approach 

Barnes is spot on.. instead of picking players to suit your tactics and formation, Southgate had players playing out of position because of their name but kept players who actually play those positions on the bench. A team full of superstar names playing out of their positions doesn’t work, you need balance and you pick players to fit your system.

Cole palmer had 0 starts in this competition and yet he ended up with 2 assists and 1 goal. Meanwhile Phil foden with 7 starts ended with 0 assists and 0 goals. If this manager doesn’t leave England fans should riot

The team reflects the manager - nervous, scared, pragmatic. They have to show more personality if they want to take the next step, but they don't play like they think they can win. That's down to the manager.

Everyone is talking about Klopp, why would he take over England? Klopp will be the next German national team manager in time for the next World Cup

Barnes is correct, you pick players who suit the team and the way you want the team to play.

If we played anyone decent in the last 16 we would have lost. Leaving palmer and watkins out for kane and foden is unforgivable. Southgate was good for morale but did no justice to this team full of very good players.

Foden had one good 45 minutes in the whole tournament, as did Bellingham, Rice is an average player not worthy of representing England. It say's everything about Southgate, that he only brought Palmer on as an impact player, yet despite his limited game time he was our most effective performer

John Barnes is absolutely spot on... 👏👏👏 and proof of what he is talking about happened after the final... when someone on talksport was saying Olmo only plays for liepzig... where as England have Madrid... City... Arsenal... Chelsea players throughout the team as if that should make them better players... you can't judge someone like Bellingham on his club performances when he is being played in an entirely different set up internationally... same as foden... two different players at City and England

Barnes is making sense. England always overthinks its selection. International football requires people with character and fearlessness and that is what Sterling and to lesser extent Rashford bring.

Anyone who plays palmer off the bench automatically doesnt know what they are doing . The most decisive player getting scrappy minutes at end of games is laughable . Why couldnt palmer have started if he has the same g/a as foden and saka in like 5 and half full games less

Cundy sat there thinking, there’s half bag in jacket pocket, same again in my wallet and two mouses pillows at home. Roll on home

I can accept losing if we give our all and played to our best level. I cannot accept losing cos we are poorly coached, set up and instructed. We have a serious chance of winning something with this group of players… especially given the general level of the competition. We can’t waste another tournament under Gareth. He’s clueless. In the 90’s and 00’s we had serious talent and sometimes we were well set and others not at all… but the competition was insane. Brazil, Germany, Italy, Argentina, Portugal. We might never have a window of opportunity like this ever again. Any other country would have sacked Gareth after the Italy final… we offered him another contract. I fear we will do the same again. The whole country seems to see where he’s going wrong so why can’t he? He started the tournament with 3 no.10’s, nothing on the left and an experiment in MF with Trent. Why the hell are we tinkering at the main event!? Ok so he’s insistent on playing Foden, Kane and Jude. I was calling for a 3-4-3 to make sense of that situation… was so chuffed when he actually made the change. Then I realised the only reason he did that was to go like for like with the Dutch (confirmed by Foden in interview). Then the lineup comes out and he’s still ballsed up the lineup. Why wasn’t Trent utilised as the right wing back? Why Trippier on the left? Why in a tournament without any width on the left, did Gordon go unused? When Germany lost a semi on home soil in 06 they ripped up the rule book and completely restructured everything top to bottom. 4 years later a group of their kids are blooded into the WC and another 4 after that they’re winning the thing. You watch what they do now they lost in the quarters. You watch what the FA does! Too many people are blowing smoke up Southgate’s bum hole that the FA will probably think he’s the right man for the future. “He’s brought the team together” they say… this is hardly like managing the Scousers from the 90’s and the class of 92. Lads playing for teams that kick lumps out of each other during the season. If you can’t create harmony between the likes of Saka and Foden then you’ve probably got a personality disorder. These lads grew up together winning things for the England youth. They’re already all best mates… playing in a time when almost all football players are friendly with each other. I’ll give Southgate one thing. Only one! Those were some slick pens. That’s his doing. Hats off for that. The rest was turd!

Barnes best guest you've had in a while

Looks like it went off in the break Goldstein and cundy look shook

After hearing Southgate say after the game Kane basically wasn’t fit , at what point should a player actually say boss I’m not right , I’m not sharp it’s like your playing with ten men with me so start someone else to give us best chance of winning That’s what a real leader would do

Great insight from John Barnes

Spain beat the best on their way to the final. England had the easiest route and still struggled to give a convincing performance.

I agree with what Gary Neville said about Southgate setting us up tactically to play counter-attacking football last night without counter-attacking players. We needed pace upfront last night and we had virtually none. Gareth got the team selection wrong; he should've started Watkins and Palmer, maybe even Gordon too, but he went with Kane who looked unfit and Southgate even admitted to knowing that in the post-match interview. Why would you persist with a player who was obviously struggling for fitness and form throughout the entire tournament? It was a terrible decision and one that has cost us dear.

Gordon played 4 minutes all tournament, let that settle in. Gordon has got the most assists and goals in Europe's top league's and scored against all of the top 6 only player to do it in prem history..

What a joker both Navas and Joselu were in form performing for their respective clubs , Spain pick them regardless of age or name value . They were playing young wingers , fearless football.

Great to see John Barnes on the show

The disrespect to Sociedad, Jesus Navas and Joselu here was out of this world

John Barnes.Legend.Punditry master. Gary Neville learn from the master.😅😅😅

Southgate as England manager, Starmer as Prime Minister. 😂 Doomed

Barnes is correct, some players are natural International players. Yes, Vassell was one, Danny Welbeck and Andros Townsend were other examples.

The argument that England has the best players is very subjective. Cafu recently said that Brazilian players who play in England think they are the best in the world because of the hype in England. Brazil's midfield is the worst ever Joao Gomes- Wolves, Bruno Guimaraes- Newcastle, Douglas Luiz- Aston Villa, Andreas Pereira-Fulham, and Lucas Paqueta-West Ham all playing in England but thinking they are world beaters. England lack creative prompters, compare them to Spain, Ruiz, Rodri, Predri, Gavi, and Zubmendi are better prompters than anyone on the England team. Don't focus on "position" your prompters can even be right backs like Philipp Lahm, a left back like Alaba, or a center mid like Rodri. Look at the top Champions league teams England has no player who is the creative hub of the team ala Rodri, Kroos, Modric, Tchoumeni, and the list goes on. England when cornered will revert to their DNA which is long balls. Dominating possession in your own half means nothing....

john talks a lot of sense, pick players who suit the low defensive line. apart from maguire though , lool

John barnes spot on

Yes John YES

John Barnes, very interesting points

southgate has got to walk if the FA won't do it for him. if he can't bench foden and kane because he already has this idea of his "best XI" and they will play no matter what, despite coming out later saying kane wasn't fit the whole tournament, that's a disgrace sorry, we need to move on. this is international football, its for the whole country there's no room for selfishness. why is it that "we cannot drop kane". he didn't get in the box the whole tournament, we wasted this moment we get every 2 years at most. why did gordon only play 4 minutes the whole tournament, I bet he would've ran at an aging dani carvajal. palmer also being asked to do a hero job for 15 minutes each game and never getting a chance to start at 0-0. it's not about getting to finals, we need to get over the line now and we need an attacking manager. i like the guy, but his time has to be over. ride off into the sunset.

Gareth knows he should of used his whole squad, after the 3pts from the first league game, it’s so obvious players were fatigued at an early stage of this tournament. 🤔🙏🏻

When Barnes talks , its better Cundy keeps shush and listens....he knows international football ....

3 🦁 must get Carlo Anceloti or Lippi or Klopp or Pep or Jose. Also Pray for peace as world is in a fragile way. 3 lions fans are very lovely as they worry about world peace even after another heart breaker.

THERE IT IS! The tone of disrespect and entitlement that most english fans have, as explained by John Barnes "navas not a starter? Not that good of a player.... Navas has won 3 euros and 1 world cup, Navas has won 10+ club titles with Sevilla (as a starter). The REAL SOCIEDAD players... have played champions league football the past seasons... your OPINIONS much like your country is INSULAR... show respect

Barnes is 100 right!

Used to think barnes knew football but sadly everyones gotta price

People say he has earned the right to make the decision is everything wrong with English Football & the FA today.

Navas got picked by Spain becauze he plays for them, and so did Joselu, he was playing well for Madrid

In fairness, I have never been a fan of John Barnes, but what he is saying is totally spot on, more or less. This is how football-or any sport-should be played. Don't just keep picking the media-hyped flavour of the month; pick players that will fit into a system. We don't because we don't have a system. We are our own demise, continuously giving players way too much credit - they are not great players end of. All this "world-class" talk has to stop. The Premier League is not the best league; it's just the league with the best marketing; there's a difference.

If the FA pick Graham Potter, then their England Manager selection process is just like the way England play….Sideways and backwards.

Its an interesting spin john has put on this

Joselu had a fantastic season with Madrid. His inclusion in the Spanish squad was merited.

Very good point by Barnes about leaving top players out who don't fit what you want to do. England won a world cup without their best striker Jimmy Greaves, could they have won the Euros without Kane...

Barns was spot on Southgate gone on his own decision

People are gonna keep debating players but this isn’t the problem, the biggest problem is the manager and it’s not a selection problem, it’s an anchor player problem… you choose one player who’s your anchor player and all other players are selected to play around that player… and the style is centered around that, for example if your anchor player is Kane, Jude/Foden/Saka shouldn’t start, you need LF&RF next to Kane focused on running behind and scoring… the midfield becomes a working 3-man, Rice-Wharton-Gallagher, Trent/Trippier start on the sides to bomb up and down providing wing support…, That team plays similar to Klopps main teams which was centered around a striker who dropped more and created for the LF&RF, that team is completely different to a team centered around Watkins/Foden/Palmer/jude as the front 4 cause then you got 2 CDMs supporting that front 4 and defensive RB&LB

John already said Gareth is not the man in an indirect manner. John said player power is so great that Gareth did not pick the team that should have played rather than the ones other people wanted to be played. We dont need a weak manager,therefore, who is forced to use players because they have more power than the manager.

I agree with Cundy, go for the best guy available, England national team is a massive job & far too big for a guy like Potter. Klopp or Poch should be the front runners for the job. They know exactly what style they want to play & how to implement it, also know a lot of the England players well.

The problem was, despite dour performances he kept with the same XI and reverted to back 4 in the final. Well done, but now he's gone

John Barnes always talks a lot of sense.

John Barnes next manager, no brainer.

Podolski is the best example... was bang average mid table bundelisga striker, plays for germany and he turns into Ronaldo.

You can't win. Taking Rashford and Sterling is crazy! No way

Barnes should apply he ticks the boxes for the woke FA and he loves playing the race card

If Southgate has a preferred formation and tactical approach. Then bring players in that can play that system. Players should be picked solely on merit, no favourites. That is the issue we're in now. Maguire and Rashford were rightfully dropped. Southgate had Gordon and Bowen on the bench. Both players who like to run and can be very effective alongside Kane. He opted for Foden, Saka and Bellingham who don't do that. If that is what he wants to play then that's fine, but pick a striker who can do that. Kane was not fit. That was obvious for the world to see. Yet he still persisted with him. Watkins comes on and makes an immediate difference. It's the Gerrard and Lampard situation, yet again. Jude is not a 10, and he's not a 6. Foden is not a winger. To compensate for that, he had Jude wide left, and Foden as the 10. Takes off Mainoo and drops Jude alongside Rice as a double pivot 6. He's not strong enough mentality to deal with the fallout of dropping one of them or taking off Jude, and he doesn't have the tactical fortitude to find a system that works with them both. This has nothing to do with the result in the final. England were poor throughout the tournament. Up against tactically superior coaches, Southgate is consistently found out.

'Clash'...they were in agreement ffs

'Jamaica' John doesn't have a problem with a foreign manager in charge of England. Personally, it made my stomach turn, watching Martinez sing the Portuguese national anthem. Imagine, say, Klopp taking England to a final vs Germany. He's not going to sing along with our dreary anthem, surely. Subconsciously he'd be thinking 'God, if my team beat Germany, how's that going to look? Anyway, I'm not a little Englander, much deeper than that. Southgate has done a terrific job in many aspects and the groundwork is in place for a better tactician to take the reigns. He's a lovely bloke but his football is overly cautious and quite frankly, boring. I'd appoint Potter, as soon as Gareth resigns and say, 'You've got one tournament, then we are appointing the next in line. Enjoy and good luck'

I have to disagree with Barnes on not picking players in form and sticking with those who fit your system. This isn't a club side, this is where it is an honour to earn that shirt and cap! So many players throughout the years in the Prem got overlooked who had amazing seasons just because those in front of them were big names! You can't sit here and tell me Rashford should have been in the squad ahead of Gordon or Sterling ahead of Bowen....it makes a mockery of trying to earn your spot and represent your country. Now if after say 10 caps, it isn't working for that player then I can understand leaving them out. This squad failed because we had a pragmatic manager who played 4 defenders in every game, made Rice sit in front like a 5 and Mainoo didn't really move much further forward either. As soon as we have a forward thinking manager I think players like Foden will play a lot better.

Lol Southgate is so amature. Easy draws with a pretty talented squad. How on earth do ppl still try n say he deserves the job 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 hes so useless 😅😅😅😅😅

Barnes talking facts

Graham Potter........we never learn 😂😂😂

Don't matter who England get as a manager, you are not winning a world cup. Because your players are not good enough.

Cut it out Barnes, Southgate a favorites manager like TH at MU, but worse his coaching, tactics, team selection, game management woeful

Jubby is right ...the afro-men have had their time ...Time to step aside for the Euromen ...like Colin Welland said ' the Britsish are coming' . ..

Phil foden only shines in a man city team because it's full of stars. But struggles in a average team like England 😂😂😂

Send Southgate to Spurs and bring Ange Postecoglou in to manage England. This is the way

Gareth retired rooney, so why couldn’t howe or potter do the same to walker, Maguire, trippier or kane?

England fan here, not long back. Disappointed but we don’t have a right to go deep in tournaments! It shouldn’t be expected I think the maximum we should expect is to qualify and after that we support the team and manager unconditionally! It’s been a great month and we go again! 💪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿Fair play to Spain they were absolutely brilliant throughtout the tournament and deserved it! 👏

John as a Liverpool fan i love you to bits but england stunk the place out for 7 games he has had unbelievable draws in 4 tournament and still won nothing he is not tactically good enough

Let’s get Rooney. He’d ignite the players no end.

The key to the door was Palmer and we was shut out.Kane was so far off the pace of the game was painful.

Maguire was injured and Rashford hasn't really fired for England, so that leaves Sterling, who personally I would have brought.

Our biggest problem was he didnt trust that playing our game would get us the result. I looked at gordon, bowen, tony and watkins and felt sorry for them because southgate has ruined there summer and played no part in it.

Problem, England have had for years, every manager picks names, and never what is required, a balanced team. With the best/next best players in there’re natural positions!

Stop arguing for Maguire Jon flipping heck. The guy got us to a final and these guys complaining

I'm in shock England didn't win after statpadding their ranking against San Marino and Estonia

Well said John! Harry Kane is better than Watkins… but for this team where we are trying to shoehorn two 10’s into the starting 11, then Watkins is the better option.

Why pick players who look good playing in a great team ,why not pick players who stand out in a bad team ,which is what palmer has done ,Being one of the only english players who play well at a side full of world beaters ,just means you can play your game because you have backup ,, Being a player who can make others look better,than they are should be more important

4:28 It means what suits the flipping TEAM comes above ALL!!! This is crazy, we've been making this same stupid mistake for decades!!! Remember Gerrard and Lampard!?

Alf Ramsey "i don't always pick the best players"

Insanity thinking Southgate should make the decision 😂 no one can look at the performance in every game this tournament and pretend we did well. It was dire, every game. Defensive, slow to react, sitting back. It has been dreadful.

The only reason the Spanish manager picked joselu is because he had a good system and for Laporte Spain don't actually have good defenders

Last 12 games won only 3 in 90 minutes. Shocking form WARNING SIGNS WERE THERE

Great points John. I think some players are better suited to international football. Sterling was amazing at the last euros. Half or more of the goals, he was involved. Great, great points. It's the system. Picking Foden and Bellingham who look knackered is flawed thinking. Grealish was fresh, he should have been here so was Sterling.

It’s time the role of the England Manager is changed, has less power and should become a coaching only role allowing a technical structure to be put in place as there is in club football where hierarchy establishes a style of football and then picks players who fit that style. The coach then works with those players to ensue that style is met. This means players aren’t just picked by one person - the manager - who only tends to pick his favourites or swayed by popular opinion.

Get ex player's to be on the coaching staff for England, then let them vote for New Manager, then England would succeed. Try it and watch the Results.

Brendan Rodger’s for me he did a lot at Leicester and he’s won trophies and has a strong possession game.

This Century England have had the right players, but always the wrong Manager.

Im worried Southgate will pretend he is deep in thought about if he will leave or continue. Then stay anyway.

Southgate didn't have a style

Barnes is right about Rashford and Sterling but not Harry Maguire. England's system is too limited with Harry Maguire as he's too slow to play a high press and his set piece attributes don't compensate for his other frailties. Defensively With Gueye, Walker, Stones, Shaw and up front with, Rashford, Sterling, Saka, Watkins & Gordon, England have the players to play the high press. This would then bring an opportunity for players like Alexander Arnold to play in midfield because of his ability to find runners. There was no point in playing AA with Kane & Foden as they don't run in behind.

Gareth moves upstairs and oversees the development of all the kids. Keeps the ethics and club feel in St George's. We need to bring in another long term manager. Play to a style which is reflected through the age groups. That could mean Southgate embracing a more adventurous style or simply moving aside to become a member of the FA who supports youngsters with the pressure etc.

Guardiola, O'neil or Howe for me

I know its now back with the dinosaurs ,but look what happened in 1966 ,greaves got injured first game ,he brought in Hurst ,he keep hurst ,even when greaves was fit ,and greaves was seen as the best striker in Europe at the time , Ramsey did get pressure to drop hirst and play greaves ,but kept to his guns,The rest is history , With southgate ,if kane was injured in the first game and Watkins or toney came on and started banging in goals for fun ,when kane was back fit ,southgate would drop watkins and tony ,to play kane ,Thats the difference and why he should go

England’s biggest problem, they cater to the starts too much. Been saying this for years.

the england and england womens teams are paid the same , top class manager for £400K

this is why JB was a terrible manager - you can't understand too much and think England's problem is that they didn't pick Rashford and Sterling. Many great players turn out to be terrible managers though so Barnes keeps plenty company.

I reckon Andy and Jay are playing a game about face touches and finger gestures

Well if Gareth needs players that can play to his defensive long ball, Tony Pulis Stoke City style. He needs to look at players from the Championship and League 1. Most of the players in the England squad play for clubs with attack minded managers, Pep, Arteta etc.

In terms of the England manager. Who do England go for next? Klopp? Poch? Quick question. When was the last time a foreign manager won the World Cup?