‘I have 2 Masters' degrees, Orengo has none’: Murkomen clashes with Orengo 

you should know their is a gap of 30 years in their age

@@jengerp seems like experience beats education. Thanks for clarifying.

Proud luo

@@cheruiyotchumba7303 that must be kipchumba Onyango Murkomen. that is why he has to tell people that he has two master's degree. Good for him. we need more people with such high degrees.

Unasema Nini. What is it that orenga has delivered

Useless

Thanks bwaana am watching it from Somalia🇸🇴🇰🇪✌

Not all heroes wear capes...thanks

Thanks jo!

Thanks for saving time 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

We need pple like you my friend,,,you make work easier,,,

Orengo as experience, hiyo experience yake I think huwa inawalisha

But he is there,& where are you🤔?..A village Champ?What's the difference with a Lakeside fisherman?

Not everyone from Nyanza is a fisherman, some from Ugenya,Alego,Gem etc have never been to the lake either.Lake Victoria isn't everywhere in the Nyanza region

@@blacksheep4159 goes without saying the level of the guys intelligence

He continues to go through it.. sorry

Very true..

Perhaps the reason he is said to be a flop in legal practice

True, coz you look very foolish when you do so

Wisdom is what matters my friend

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Senators who think,not thinks eish ..

Papers,papers!!!

Surely

Just mere paper that are so called academic certificates, education has to be more than those papers rather it has to reflects, with all those degrees in kenya yet things are almost the same to a normal kenyan at kibera and turkana or kilifi

Wisdom is the key here

So are you insinuating that Orengo is the wiser man here?

@@iannowwe correct

You will not perform and get degree without wisdom

you must be dump to say orengo curated baba's political career

But at this time Murkomen was 43 years while Orengo was 70 years. So he has time to make his manuscript...

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that means nothing

@@msejuma1105 It means something. 3 children have already been swallowed up.

@@msejuma1105 I think you know nothing about the government Orengo is doing his work which he told the Jubilee supporters earlier two years ago and now Fedinarnd Waititu,Susan Kihika and Kipchumba Murkomen who is talking here childish are the ones who were supporting the government of jubilee.

What is *"abroad?"*

Unfortunately Miguna has a personality problem. I cannot even ask him to represent me in a court of law.

@@busolopeter7215 It is called *"delusion of grandeur!"*

Orengo beat Murkomen hands down in this debate......give us a break!

He he he he,you are being a brother’s keeper and considerate through sounds hilarious

Enyewe uchoyo mbaya unafanya nini na masters mbili mpatie moja pia yeye ajichoche Huyu jamaa murkomen aliruka bet live live sasa amepata dawa yake orengo awache hasira Hasira hasara tuliza balli kijana Here you are dealing with the master of coup uliza weta who is orengo weta awezi karibia orengo even he was not in the house you cannot argue with him Don,t even try orengo ni kasuku wa kilo mingi Kamotho wa odm alideal na akina marehemu moi man solo ogopa just ignore orengo please

2 masters and he never uttered a word in the case he was bragging about. We should thank covid_19. It has brought the true reality about our Universities education whereby we close them during this pandemic instead of opening for research centers

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I believe in really life.

The other way round

What happened to the us embassy on matters of only vetting people of sound mind to cross to their country.

Fact that one person can have many papers which make him/her an educated fool or maybe literate. The other one has one paper and intelligent. I'd rather go for one paper and intelligence than many papers that mean nothing

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😂😂😂😂I'm on the floor laughing! It's a pity his 2 Masters depleted his wisdom!

Wisdom detected......

Daniel Amakobe 😂😂🤣🤣🤣

how did that turn out..lol

lol ati more than that and you are silent...boss dont type nonesense nexttime.

Why are u silent?

Jiskize tena😆... Hujui kitu wewe

@@nickyke8058 ni ukweli, sijui. Lakini nitajua tu kama wewe siku moja

@יהושע יהושעAre you telling us you are also troll in your mother's manyatta house

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He showed how stupid he was you cant argue with someone then you say l used to be number 1 who are you as number 10 to lecture me?

Hehe more like Murkomenos stupidity

Says a keyboard worrior

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@@nicklemar5054 it's a fact...education is what you recall from what you learnt Orengo recalls more!! He is brighter!!

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It's 2024 now and Murkomen is leading the nation

U r another one. They don't sight. They cite.

Obonyoi John Gabriel Orengo ni takata atavuna alichopanda

Ukweri kbs

@@agnesereng6044 Orengo amepanda nini? This is a Jubilee motion to remove a Deputy Speaker that they had sponsored!

Ko

Wewe mjaluo there is no better way you can protect your less educated representative than trying to lie that two master degrees are equal to form six leaving certificate

@@nyashndosh4792 The truth hurts. If you needed legal representation you find the lawyer that will win not the one that has the most papers

Hi hi babe I

@@nyashndosh4792 we uko na nini 😂😂😂

Enda nunua hata wewe

But never,never follow him like a cow pz

@@cicilianjeri5229well said loved one of lord God Gnight Blessed

😂😂i saw it too

Ushamwaga😅

I see you filled with imagination lol

@@betinansi201 I said SHARP, I didn't say high development record. The role of the legislature is as follows: 1. Legislation (it is called the Legislature) 2. Representation 3. Oversight "Development" is not a role for the Legislature. Go through the Constitution and if you come across development as being one of the roles for the legislature, then kindly let me know under which clause it falls. The three arms of govt, namely the Executive, the Judiciary and the Legislature all have very different roles and are facilitated differently. Development falls under the Executive. Why do you want to judge a doctor by how well he performs at plumbing work! Why judge a bishop by how accurately he fires a gun? Are you going to judge a lawyer by how well he plays football? No. Kila mtu na lane yake. Damn! Orengo is SHAAAAAAAAARP!

@@betinansi201 MPs don't develop their areas. The funds that go into developing those areas are in the Executive's budget. Even a small budget as the old CDF which had overlooked the principle of separation of powers, had to be re-aligned into NG-CDF to move it away from the Legislature! In the earlier days both budgeting and expenditure was fully in the hands of the Executive. "Development" was a tool used by the Executive to silence some MP's and raise the profile of others. It is those representatives who questioned the Executive repeatedly who raised the conscience of the nation to rise to the level of reforming and realigning the power structure and gaining of civil liberties. Some of those representatives paid the price with their lives. Others, with detention without trial. Some, jail terms on trumped up charges. Others, like Orengo and other radical leaders had their areas starved of state funds to paint them as "non-development conscious leaders". That was twisted logic by the Executive. The role of "Development" lies squarely with the Executive. To transfer it to the Legislature is to create a constitutional quagmire. How can the Legislature be responsible for "development" and also be required by the same constitution to play an oversight role over the same development?? A body cannot oversight itself! The Legislature's role does not, and cannot logically include "development".

@Beautiful Relaxation Music In the debate, when Murkomen was "yombayombaring" Orengo stated with finality that the debate was a motion, neither a trial nor a tribunal and it was final. When Murkomen was "floating" without anchoring his points on constitutionalism, he asked him with precision to state which part of the constitution he was anchoring his points and Murkomen was tongue tied. When Murkomen tried to hide behind administrative justice clause, he countered with clarity that the clause did not apply and Murkomen shut his beak. Need I go on?Damn! Orengo is SHAAAAAAAARP!

@Beautiful Relaxation Music During which elections? My eyes are wide open!

Hapa mmechokoza nyuki, wacheni odhis atusomeshe 🤣😂

And they might visit his office to represent them

@@danwildlife9491 point of correction ,(not they might) but they will visit.

And he created employment for several degree holders. Murkomen is a disgrace, not only to Jubilee, but to humanity as whole.

my brother, umenena.

That's right my brother

Like him for what...there is nothing he says here worth liking chief

Funny though

Even your ruling is a kangaroo one , remember majority wins in such a manor but the minority has the strong point ,"government & revolution eats its own people" so dance the tune.

@@mcmanu6621 Murkomen being schooled properly by the senior council....

@@DrSting-vp3hd murkomen fought like a man.

@@mcmanu6621 very true...

Very true 😂😂😂👍

Hehehe, he has also done poor law which he cannot practice; if I was him , I cannot even speak of my stupid 2degrees, waaah which law did he do, if he cannot even understand simple English?

Two degrees with nothing to show,

you're judging basing on your kingpin

He is stating a fact of life!!

Murkomen is good in articulating issues than Orengo

Good

Most of them highjacked exam papers before its date

Babu zake amesoma

Fake???? Were you the one issuing those fake certificates????🙄🙄🙄🙄

@@kipkemboimark3986 at you back

@@kipkemboimark3986 from the way is arguing

Baba English kwako Ngumu .under standard

@@moha9043 samahani kiingereza ni lugha yangu ya tatu bado najifunza. Hopefully I'll get better with time.

@Alex Murogo What a peaceful answer! Good for you!

@@moha9043 There is nothing like under standard English, it is either standard or non standard.

we should follow how the constitution says , we are not here to favour anybody , this is for future

Degree and he has never won a case in court

Unless u r uninterested. U have to personally tell us how many degrees u have. Don't expect Murkomen to tell us on ur behalf.

The nullification that orengo claims to have helped NASA to win against uhuru was stage managed. It wasn't raw deal but cooked many years before

You haven't enrolled into a university to get a Master's degree, I know you don't know what it's worth 😄

Winning a case in these kenya court won't count anything for me, there have been so many cases of corruption but no one knows how they end up

And he couldn't because there is none. The fellow had to be taught by Wambua, Orengo and Kilonzo on the floor of the house how to read and interpret the constitution! Ati 2 masters degrees! And he can't read and comprehend the constitution! What a shame!

Useless

He is right about what?

@@kaykay5605 watch their debate before gushing at me.

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Wisdom of high quality

That was the point.

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Hahaha

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