Former IT Ops. Had a P1 server down case late at night. I was so tired that after a couple hours of troubleshooting I am on the verge of crying and just murmuring "I wanna go home, I wanna go home". Then that mfer just suddenly went up like nothing. These machines can really feel fear but they also feel empathy. Glad I'm out of Ops. 😂😂
Yup pray hard to God that the recovery time don't take 6 days as the trajectory shown the last 2 days recovery process.. It finished after another 12 / 16 hours... 😊
@@wolf12king17 Judging by what I've seen with consulting firms, I'm not so sure any of their recommendations would have made any sense. So, no. I'm sure they would have never considered the recruiters. OP wrote a really insightful comment that sadly went over most people's head unless they experienced what business consulting firms do. 😅
And those 47 recruiters will ask you about Leetcode questions which they don’t even know how to solve themselves because they don’t have a single bit of technical knowledge…
@@beneficent2557 yes its true, i worked in a company that started to fire hr and managers only after we lost our 3rd biggest client. They layed off like half of devs who wrote 95% of the code etc. for this particular client. I dont work there anymore but i heard from colleagues that company literally begged some of these devs to come back, only one guy got back for like 2-3 times his previous salary
@@firdanharbima6997 I mean my name is a reference to a novel that I read when I was a child. And shareholders are not philanthropists. If they think the CEO is bad then they will fire him. Obviously the shareholder could be idiots but then they deserve to lose money.
The new devs get employed, break the app, then a full panic mode is on as they try to get the old devs back as contractors to fix the problem. Tale as old as time.
@@brutusthebear9050 Unless they're just friends with other people in admin so they never have any real responsibilities. They become incredibly senior but also incredibly useless and insecure about it.
@CCRUEnthusist I never said that every person in admin is great or worth having. But this is a false equivalency. Recruiters only are meant to bring new people in. Administrators have an actual job.
@@hinamiravenroot7162 apparently not knowing the answer to the question makes people like you and I very lucky. From what I can gather, it's an arbitrary number given to a task to show how much effort something will take? So I guess 1 story point is not much effort where as 3 is a lot more effort? It's wild. I'm glad Ive never been exposed to this.
@@hinamiravenroot7162 A story point is an approximation of the log or square of the man-hours required to complete a task. So instead of saying "I think it'll take roughly 8 hours of work," you can say "It's 4 story points" if you want. The purpose is to prevent people from arguing with each other about the exact amount of time it takes to do something, but they don't accomplish much else
@@meowmiaumiauw how is that useful at all? If the people know the system they still can argue and if they dont know the system they will have issues calculating time.
I've unfortunately fallen into the startup crowd for a decade now and can definitively say... When your marketing department outweighs devs, your company is in its death throes. They're peacocking to make themselves look appetizing to a buyer.
@@KnowThings101 Golden handcuffs. I hate this line of work because it's full of cliche annoying people (ego, tech bro, Adderall abusers, etc) but the money is good and I can literally send three words in any groups I'm in and land a job the same week "looking for work".
I'm going to be honest, the company I work doesn't have HR department, and everything goes smoothly. The developers army knows what they have to do and my coworkers are really focused on their tasks. Guess what, this year we increased 10% our salary.
so who is doing your payroll? who is the one who hired you? and how do you scale up the company? at some point, every job ad that you post will have 1000-2000 applicants, how do you pick 1? if all you answers are to hire 3rd party companies, the cost scales much faster than having your own staff to process them
Shareholders are going to be the thing that kills the US economy. I worked at one place that decided to reinvest all profits one year into developing in house software that would save the company millions over the next 10 years rather than paying licensing fees to outside vendors. The Shareholders weren't happy about it and put pressure on the board because the stock price dropped. The need for year to year growth even when you reach near market saturation has killed so many companies because at some point the only way to increase profits is to lay off the people who make you money and cut the quality that made you what you were.
Worst part is this isn't even that far from it. I started at a company, and on my first day I started with 45 other new starters. At the end of the first 6 months about 20 of us remained, at the end of the first year I was one of 3 starters that remained at the company. The next year they did it all again. The people who got fired were all good employees, but to cut cost they just slowly got rid of them till they could operate at bare minimum, over worked underpaid, staff
HR is generally the most overstaffed dept in any company. We fired all of ours and now it’s done by three consultants who only work part time. It’s also an entirely operational spend department. It makes no money for the company. Just cost.
Join company, rinse it of every possible training opportunity, move to another, rinse and repeat until you can go self-employed. Employment is a race against redundancy at this point.
@@nathansavage8692 Spot on, son. Spot on. Show no loyalty to a corporation that treats you like grist in the machine. Life is too short and we don't get another go.
A lot of my batch mates who are web devs got lay off just a year into their job. I worked in hardware and we rarely have layoffs because it's harder to train us but I can't be complacent
I have legit seen this, they did a massive layoff at work and they had 2 managers per employee.😭😭😭 then no work got done and they were like wtf why has performance dropped your all taking the piss. While the managers spent 1/3 of the shift on their phones. The worst thing is they got rid of employees who had worst performance but they did all the annoying jobs for everyone else so we could maintain good performance. So they where the most important and no one could do their jobs since they where all gone. Just to say I was out of there quickly.
This hit at home, only instead of layoff they just doesn't care about the developers, so everyone is leaving within a year. Then they just recruit new people, instead of trying to solve the issues that makes people leave.
I love the subtle connection that the outage that is the reason there is another round of layoff was more than likely caused by all the other layoffs. Therefore the layoffs here are effectively self-justifying. This is what we call a business in free fall lmao.
The best part of this was when they said the investors requested it. Generally, HR knows it's important to not just lay off the core development staff, but the investment firms and nepo babies decide that that's the best way to decrease spending so they can maximize profit for the next quarter.
I was risk manager for a small manufacturing firm. One year I polled the c suite about what concerned them most, and ex for HR VP everyone listed HR. 😂
"After the outage we had yesterday - which totally had nothing to do with us previously firing half the staff that could've prevented it and the other half subsequently being too overworked to fix it in time - we've decided the best course of action is to make matters worse and fire even more people that could help prevent this from happening again."
Back in the 90's I worked for a Sydney-based company producing warehouse automation systems. When I joined they had ~35 engineers, a couple of sales people (including the president), a few manufacturing and an accountant. A few years later they had one engineer, a whole lot of HR and middle management, a couple of sales and manufacturing people, a president and a lot of angry customers. It didn't seem worth sticking around.
My company has nearly 4000 systems engineers, 800 project managers, 300 procurement, 200 HR but just 250 actual engineers across the UK. However it's always an engineering problem when we dont have the resources to complete tasks.
IT Systems & Networks Technician here in Spain. Last week I applied to a job position asking for huge Windows/Unix knowledge, Cisco CCNA routing and switching, Palo Alto/Fortigate firewalling, F5 load balancing, apart from the usual monitoring (Nagios/Grafana/Cacti...) but they were offering just *minimum wage* (€15k/year)
Yeah, my job canceled all 3 of their openings for new engineers we need because they said we didn't have enough budget to hire more people. And then 2 weeks later, they put 3 job openings for more H. R people.
SAP was our vendor, our lead at SAP one day said to us "Just so you know, SAP is dumping programmers again, most of us on your product are going to Ceridian." About a week later, we were told our 1-3 month backlog was being moved to 12-24 months, and our 3-6 was going to 24+. We dumped them in the call.
Lol The large corporations either purchase the smaller ones, or will offer really good pay just to starve the smaller ones until they flop, then lay off all the excess employees. If hiring excess employees fails, just load the corporation up with tremendous debt to buy back stock so the executives and board get free money using the dying corporation and move on to another corporation while the old one goes bankrupt. This is capitalism 101.
In 2024 there’s a big push to stop “making things” and start “making more money”. To do that you need a company that’s 90% suits. Those great minds come together to make money materialize by shifting paradigms and circling back to things at a later time.
They need the HR people to handle the surprise "youre getting laid off and we dont respect you enough to let you talk to anyone who actually does something in this company" zoom calls
I worked for a company that thought it would be a good idea to let go of 2 developers from a 5 developer team that was already behind schedule due to mismanagement and unclear requirements 😅
It’s f**ked our SaaS Company. They keep wondering why things are not getting done…well…the old adage, you break it, you buy it. 😂 Tell them to pull the plug and plug it in again 😂
I remember when I got fired from a job after I got assaulted by a coworker for cursing at them, my HR recruiter was literally struggling to breathe on the phone just from writing my statement. Idk man these recruiters need to be humbled somehow
Man.. you know, if developers actually wanted to run companies vs solve complex problems while still optimizing their lives none of these companies would be able to compete lol
