“52% of Graduates Don’t Use Their Degrees” - The Disturbing Truth About College 

They don't even want to hire you if you lack the precious "two years of experience". What a crock.

Its not experience that get you the job… Its who you know

Military

@@kingmaafa120 What if you can't do that due to a Felony Conviction?

It's stupid that they don't want to train you, but they also won't hire you if you don't have a bachelor's degree or higher. I've been to many interviews for various IT positions, and a bachelor's degree is what they look for.

I say all the time, if I could go back in time and warn myself about anything, I'd say, "don't submit that college application."

Heartbreaking! What's your major?

Same thing here since 2006. I am focusing on skill acquisition now.

Get together with others and sue. I totally believe you were scammed.

What did you get a degree in? I never got a degree but I was able to work for Fidelity and move my way up with the company. It took a year of unpaid internship than 19/an hour. And then i moved up as a stock broker.

The HIGHER the education, the HIGHER the debt will be. Better to learn a trade, or upskill IT skills online. We're all cogs in this rat race machine.

Schools largely don't teach entrepreneurship because elites want less competition.

Got an associates degree in Automotive Repair and levered it up to a job in Engineering. Planning to save money for my kids Future Fund and will work with them to decide how to use it. Maybe trades, maybe buying a business, maybe college degree that has a good career track at a school with reasonable rates, but I'm done with this college is for everyone it doesn't matter what degree crap.

You, my friend, are right. GOD bless you.

lol it’s a legal Ponzi scheme. Anyone with a just mind can correctly assess it’s a legal scam; but if we’re going down that rabbit hole, what isn’t?

Damn!!

Yea and most of school is not practical k-12

😂 workers = slaves Thinkers = cutthroat business man

@@devxsadik Also "the thinkers" can can work as an unqualified workers until they find a job or start a business where they use their college degree.

​@@MrEzamora89 the purpose of school was to teach the bible

My supervisor (engineering) in the 70s was a high school dropout. The man was brilliant and it came by wanting to learn, not being forced to learn.

Hospitality Management. What a joke. Get a job at the bottom and it’s called work your way up. In 4 years if you work hard you can run the hotel. Yet kids pay for this degree.

@@SusanMerry45 crazy! My electronics teacher never graduated but was a gadget wiz! He worked for zenith and somehow became an engineer through the company alone. What happened to that route?

Pretty much any government management job, to include some military officers but especially in the bureaucracy. Most are needless and a complete waste of space. Many of them spend all their time making up justifications for their existence while actually adding little to no value.

@@Dohair879problem is most kids doesn’t want to put in work nowadays. Always looking for a “get rich quick” method, like the so called trades but doesn’t understand what they’re getting themselves into except at looking at red pill posts about the trades. Also for the students attending college, most are unsure what to do with their lives and go for the easier degrees. I can tell you the ones who are graduating in medicine, law, engineering, accounting/finance, and public administration are better off than those easy degrees or tradesperson.

I dont have a degree and I work as a stock broker managing people's retirement funds. Im 20. It took me a year of no pay internship out of highschool working for Fidelity and Black rock to get there. They took me in because they rather train me than higher a college person and pay them more lol. Started at 19/an hour now Im at 125 an hour managing accounts just because I got a long with the managers there after 2 years. Lifes crazy man

Yep. I know a guy that learned to program computers by himself. He started in Mexico working for HP. Now he works for Walmart in Illinois I think. He makes above 140k. No degree.

Your friend is the exception and got lucky

A janitor? 🧢

@@rrrealqueen niceee

That's a meaningless statistic since the liberal arts curriculum isn't meant to lead to a career. Someone with a degree in history who isn't working as a historian isn't someone working outside their field. They're someone with a liberal arts education; that's very different.

@brucemsabin it's actually not. It goes to show you how many degrees don't pay off. In other words, get a degree thar the rest of us don't have to pay for their degrees. It's not that hard to understand.

@@sclarkmurse75 "The advantage for STEM (science, technology, engineering and mathematics) majors fades steadily after their first jobs, and by age 40 the earnings of people who majored in fields like social science or history have caught up.... Although liberal arts majors start slow, they gradually catch up to their peers in STEM fields. This is by design. A liberal arts education fosters valuable “soft skills” like problem-solving, critical thinking and adaptability. Such skills are hard to quantify, and they don’t create clean pathways to high-paying first jobs. But they have long-run value in a wide variety of careers." Source: In the Salary Race, Engineers Sprint but English Majors Endure, October 09, 2019. NYTimes.

@@brucemsabinif it’s not meant to lead to a career, why pay so much for it? Are they just stupid?

@@seafoam6119 yes. being college educated is directly correlated with being a dunce irl

What do you do for a living?

Good stuff. Even I’m a little mixed on my college degree and I’ve actually gone on to a lucrative career. I think of the opportunity cost of not being free to fail, for example. And my first 4 or so years post grad were hell.

Good! Follow your heart!❤️ I dropped out recently, and I am following my purpose. I am scared, but God will show me light and guide me!✝️❤️

@@alexbob5209he’s a bum …

@@Phriffoyup follow ur heart straight into homelessness! 👍

I am very sorry you are not listening to yourself the purpose of education was never to make money.... Your kids are amazing for making good money without the degree, however, the problem they both have is the lack of education....When people teach bible for example, there is zero comprehension of the text... There are even preachers out there that don't grasp reading. Education is what enables people to become human it teaches us who we are as a society. The problem is that people think education is for the purpose of education when it is not. Public schools started in Germany to teach the people how to read scriptures.

Investigate the how education and philosophy shaped Greek and Roman societies and you will love education

​@@dianabenavides2913I am well aware of my comment. Of course education is important however, not necessarily college. Did you even listen to the stats?

@@dianabenavides2913 ok, nerd

​@@dianabenavides2913who gives a flying fuck about the bible and its magic sky man.

Even basic stuff like what percentage of college graduates in a particular field are employed into the field for common college degrees should be taught.

The school system can’t educate you or be too helpful. For colleges, that’s too much profit to be lost.

@@acrane3496 People will spend about 90000 hours over a lifetime working yet, at least from my own experience in a government school, there wasn't even a single class that went over basic information regarding different careers. A symposium would be a good step up.

I agree .

Could child labor laws have negative side effects? If kids could work part time in more fields as gophers maybe they would be more mature and know what they want to do in life.

Same although I’m more grateful that I have a labor job as an office setting is a pain and earning nearly triple as much

At interview, I slide my diploma, etched on a plate of Silver, " I know you must be tired of seeing diplomas printed on toilet paper."

Life is what you make it, remember?

Well that's your fault for picking the wrong college major. I went to college, and graduated, and it's the best thing I've done in my life.

@@SpiritBled99 well said and glad your doing well 👏

Depends on what degree nowadays, medicine, law, or engineering are the only great fields, everything else is useless.

Funny thing to admit, I am in a mentorship in 2D/3D art. I am looking to apply to jobs after the economy recovers.

​​@UndergroundWorld0My son started his when he was 16. So it is possible. He became a licensed exterminator and made good money.

Not if you join the military. Lol. Two degrees, free 99 and now working on my PhD.

Found the bootlicker

There is a reason the minority of the country is rich and business owners

Found the bootlicker

> TFW the Regulations and Laws that currently exist, exists to prevent people from becoming business owners So much for that...

@@jermainemyrn19 Employers want people that are easily manipulated and bullied.

Well, you could have had the military to pay for your college. Had you had a college degree, you could have climbed the ranks and earned much higher pay over the course of your entire career. A buddy of mine went to college then joined the Navy. He had a 28 career Navy career, and retired as an officer at 50 years of age. He's now fully retired, traveling, and enjoying life to the fullest.

So many go because their parents expect them to and believe the degree is the absolute, only way. That is nonsense and the curriculum these days is more than a little dangerous.

Yes, so many people forget this! My husband started full time work at 15, by 21 he was in management and now fully self employed in an industry he has 9 years full time experience working in, he’s 24. I didn’t go to college either. Our household income is above average.

What about animation? That counts as fine arts right? I mean 2D animation

Self educated people can be great people,college educated tend to overthink and worry about LGBTQI, climate change, pronouns, racism and history.......Greed wins.because money is power....and humans are still an animal that worship those with money and power.....

I agree. Also, the majority of people who don't go the college route are worse off than those who do but we only hear of the few who made it without college and then they come screaming college is a scam lol. College is a business not a charity. If you don't plan how you want to leverage it to your benefit, don't blame them for doing their business. It's like a credit card, they give it to you but it's up to you to decide what you'll do with it and not get into debt.

Lol teachers have become one of the worst professions for making society worse As the saying goes "those who can, do. Those who can't, teach."

@@cameronbell415 Didn't someone teach you to read and write and do math?

I graduated college with no debt after attending a CC for 2 years. During my time in college I built a home service business that looks more promising now than using my MIS Degree. If I had to choose to do it over again, I would do it this way. People forget they have their entire lives to work. Having fun and meeting people in college is worth it so long as you don't go into debt.

@@llpp202 You did it the right way. I hope you would share your experiences with others, especially young people and high schools to let them know it can be done. Kudos to you.

Paying ridiculous sums of money for a piece of paper which is more about indoctrination and putting the brainwashed into key positions others can't access without getting brainwashed also. A person can learn the same things at the public library or internet. But it's about controlling the chessboard. Not education.

so would you say your degree in Physics was BS? (badum tss)

Then ur degree was useless u think??

@@zayeemsavage6488 No I think that likely helped him in getting employed in IT.

@@phil1pd yeah that's what i was pointing.

You should have made it astrophysics instead. That would have been planning for the future.

Anything below 130k now is considered lower middle class in the major cities...

@@CrabFilesand you don’t even make 70

@@OmarOsman98 I am upper middle class, I don't have to look at prices when shopping for groceries. However I have to look at prices when buying Italian suits and vehicles etc... Anyone who has been making between 140 to 180k over the past 5 years has seen their quality of life reduced... Because the 20-25 dollar steaks are now 35-40, the 3000-4000 dollar suits are now 5000-8000... The 40k cars are now 60-80k :P So, if you like wearing Rolexes, italian suits driving around in a sports car eating fine steaks and bone marrow etc... You feel it now for sure...

@@CrabFiles😂😂😂

@@CrabFilesthank u for letting us know ur out of touch. 😂

Accounting and a little comp. sci. background would go a long way.

@@dxquade I agree with you. There's lots of jobs out there in accounting and Computer Science.

Accounting degrees are excellent degrees to get. There's lots of jobs out there for people with Accounting backgrounds. Accounting jobs tend to have great salaries. The CPA certification is an excellent certification to get. Other great financial certifications to get are the CFA certification, financial advisor certifications, loan officer certifications, CMA certification, etc.

Everything is scam. Taxes and social security is scam

I'm a travel nurse making 140k a year. I have no debt and I only have my associate degree in nursing. some degrees are worth it. In my opinion college is only worth it you become a lawyer, engineer, or health. My sister Is a CRNA and she make 182K a year.

@@acrane3496 We will never get to a standardized system like you’re suggesting. Capitalism is too dynamic, both in job functions and demanding changes in degree requirements. However the higher you go in the corporate ladder, the more generic MBA degrees are required. These higher ladder rungs have been standardized cookie cutter degrees due to demands in impressive credentials…marketing their “ROI” for shareholders and investors. The layers below executives are very inconsistent based on a number of things including company cultures, budgets, managers who could give a crap to actually manage, and unrealistic perfect job descriptions for ATS screening. It used to be who-you-knew networking that landed jobs compared to now where candidates are screened for the perfect “checklist” candidate. In addition, all universities are degree mills just to keep revenue for large staffing salaries and retirement, and in doing so aren’t adept to keeping up with market changes. In other words, they remain poor in effort to stay relevant in today’s accelerated technology shifts.

⁠@@bryantaragon2922 I have a few questions: 1) Do you have a LinkedIn? 2) What state do you mostly operate in? 3) What’s your hourly rate? 4) How many hours do you work per week?

​@@bryantaragon2922 so basically life is dependent on making lots of money?

Q: What's the difference between a pizza and a musician? A: A pizza can feed a family of 4.

Good job! That’s incredible

You are the exception, not the rule

How did you get into your first IT job without a degree?

@@themonsterwithin4000 Employers in the tech industry know you don't need to have a degree to get hired. If you know your stuff / self taught then you can get the job. Just apply to multiple companies and interview the ones you can. It also helps a lot if you show your past projects in your resume.

@@themonsterwithin4000 @christopheralcala2458 has this correct. I self taught both hardware and OS from the age of 11 or 12. Learned how to perform hardware upgrades, write Batch scripts, etc. In non-IT jobs, I positioned myself as the IT contact. When I moved out of those industries, I had prior knowledge and even on-job experience. The first job was with a local system builder which had a hardware troubleshooting exam, I spent a couple of hours in their service center proving the knowledge I had learned, job offer next day. Since then I have moved up, working for a Managed Service Provider (MSP), certifying in A+ and maintaining manufacturer certs, including Lenovo, HP and Toshiba. Eventually moving to software as a Support Engineer. In this role I have learned Linux and PostgreSQL. A degree was never a consideration in any of my interviews, I gained every job based on merit and experience alone.

Same here. Majored in English Lit studying Shakespeare for 4years. Been working in investment banking sector for 10+ years.

That is miles away from each other as far as subject matter. How did you land that. ​@@footie030303

I'm a travel nurse making 140k a year. I have no debt and I only have my associate degree in nursing. some degrees are worth it. In my opinion college is only worth it you become a lawyer, engineer, or health. My sister Is a CRNA and she make 182K a year.

29yrs old college dropout. Confused and bamboozled of what I really want to do.

@@diosdadojrlubiano7674 If you want some suggestions I would suggest watching some videos on youtube and seeing what is out there and what skills you may need for some of those jobs. Maybe asking some family members or friends on how they got into their fields and what attracted them to it would help as well.

@@diosdadojrlubiano7674yo bro i would recommend going to community college and starting slow

@@diosdadojrlubiano7674me to I didn’t drop out per say but the certification program. I went through was bullshit

You can learn the narrowly useful skills outside of K-12 schooling.

Trade income will supersede white collar income in the near future. Basic supply and demand

F* the Trades. Went to Trade School for a year - 8 months out from graduation, and I STILL haven't gotten a Welding job. Get outta here.

@@user-ek9vo2ub9b Congratulations on graduating from trade school. I think graduating from a trade school is a great accomplishment that you should be proud of. Sorry to hear how you're still looking for a welding job. I wish you the best in your job search. I hope you get a good welding job. I don't think a trade school degree is worthless. I don't think a welding degree is worthless. Welding is a good career to get into. There's lots of job opportunities in welding, plumbing, being a mechanic, being an electrician, being a construction worker, etc. There's lots of job opportunities in the trades. I know lots of people with trade school degrees and college degrees in marketable fields with lots of jobs in the field such as engineering, computer science, accounting/finance, business administration, etc that struggled to find jobs in their fields after graduation, and it wasn't due to their degree being useless, their work ethic, not trying hard enough, discrimination, making a bad impression during the interview, having a criminal record, etc. Jobs nowadays are extremely competitive. Some people make the mistake of assuming that if someone has a trade school degree, an Engineering degree, Computer Science degree, Accounting/Finance degree, or a Business Administration degree, and they're struggling with landing jobs in their field that it's due to things such as their degree being useless, not trying hard enough, having a bad resume, making a bad impression during the interview, having a criminal record, etc when in reality that's not true. There's lots of people who have trade school degrees, engineering degrees, computer science degrees, business degrees, etc that are struggling with finding a job in their field, and it's not due to their work ethic, not trying hard enough, discrimination, making a bad impression during the interview, having a criminal record, etc. Jobs nowadays are extremely competitive to get. Having a degree in a marketable field and the interview going well isn't enough to land an engineering job, finance job, business job, a plumbing job, a welding job, a mechanic job, etc. Meeting the general criteria for a job and the interview going well is enough to land a fast food job, waiter job, warehouse job, amazon driver job, lifeguard job, etc, but that's not enough to land an engineering job, a business job, a financial job, a computer science job, a marketing job, a trades kind of job, an electrician job, a welding job, etc. Jobs are hard to come by since many jobs often involve 40-200 applicants competing for the job and only 1 person out of all of the applicants getting the job, and even if you meet the general criteria for the job, the educational criteria for the job, have a great resume, have a lot of relevant experience, are highly qualified for the job, and make a great impression during the interview, there's still a strong chance that you won't be the selected candidate for the job. The selected candidate for the job is usually a highly qualified person that the hiring manager knows or a highly qualified person that had a referral, recommendation letter, etc sent to the hiring manager from a trusted and relevant professional reference. Volunteering, interning, networking, making professional connections, etc definitely helps in landing jobs. Almost everyone I know that got their first electrician job, plumbing job, trades job, engineering job, financial job, computer science job, etc got the job due to someone they know hiring them or due to some trusted and relevant professional reference submitting a referral, a recommendation letter, etc to the hiring manager. Congratulations on getting a trade school degree. I wish you the best.

As someone who is in the trades and hears this question somewhat frequently.. My first question to you is: Are you afraid of busting your hump and actually working with your hands? It can be 10 hour days, in rough conditions, with grumpy ass people. My next question is what are your personal interests in the trades? What seems magical to you still? Working with electric has always been fascinating to me. ​@joleokach

Medical field for women in my opinion. Nurse, xray tech, Dental school / assistant or hygeniest. Idk, i think the trades and that environment wouldn't be for most women. goodluck@@joleokach

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@@joleokachwhile you take the required courses @Tech School visit the trade shows to see what floats your boat.

​@@joleokachI know a woman who was a welder. The company who hired her paid for her training.

What took you 13 years would've taken 4 if you went to college. Plus, even with debt, the offset of a significantly increased income for 9 years would massively outweigh what debt you took on. If you take advantage of networking and do community College your first 2 years it's well worth it especially if you get a degree in stem

@tritmo you did not even read what he wrote

​@@tritmoexactly, CC used to be seen as beneath students. But it really is the only way to get an education and come out the pipeline close to debt free.

My computer science degree was the reason I got a 6 figure job out of University

@@edgeworksgames, I am pretty sure he read and his response bears testimony of that.

Soon-to-be welcome to the club. Accounting has forever cowed to investors, shell game tactics in shadow ERP/CRM platforms accounts. AI will only hinder your opportunities with smarter algorithms and learning models. Next stop desperately needed: Human Resources. Both of these industries have had too much abusive power and fat. Time for the crows to roost.

Apply somewhere else. You're wasting your time if the job is not worth it.

Software engineer here. I’ve shipped software that has replaced legion of IT specialists 5 years ago. That was before AI.

How did you gain the experience needed for entry level positions? I’m still stuck on that part, I have two internships and a degree yet I am still struggling to find full time employment in this field.

​​@@jeffreyd.4878he said he started his job some 15 years ago, it was a different environment. Way more difficult to land an entry level CS job nowadays, especially with the current layoffs. The big secret in life is that luck is a huge factor in success

@@alexzandermanning6094no one cares about ur fake experience

@@olliegarcia2306 oof someone was hurt when they found out they are replacable

I don't see a problem with shifting her career. So long as she pays for her own loans. Picking a career at 18 is drastically different than picking a career at 25. The brain doesn't fully develop until 25.

Kids don’t understand finances and how it impacts their families.

Sounds like you just let her dig a hole in the ground.

Bs

They also require experience, so people need to do internships and practicums while earning a degree

I haven't seen it for bookkeeping. I actually think payroll is hard.

It's the new high school diploma.

Good point.

Valid point.

In america the only degree I need is the one I print out that says "i identify as".

@@Lysis729 Do you have multiple degrees to cover all your "I identify as" bases?

hahaha! and i'm sadden by how POMPOUS they think they are with that PhD

I have a PhD. I'm a college professor earning $125k per year.

@@jeffmartinaz - shall I guess you’ve been in academia longer than 3 years?

Yes what he is doing is giving false hope because for what his doing doesn't require one. And he isn't a true professional. He is a person with an opinion. This isn't journalism. It is opinion based content.

Im curious, how is there a supply chain for software?

Hey man, how would you suggest someone with a physics degree to break into the supply chain industry?

corpate jargoon bsht job title@@JoshKippen

@@JoshKippen Supply chain is the entire process of getting a product to a customer. Whether it is procurement, marketing, IT, etc. the product does not sell itself. I work in Supply Chain for a software company and my job is to act as a vendor for my company.

I'm a travel nurse making 140k a year. I have no debt and I only have my associate degree in nursing. some degrees are worth it. In my opinion college is only worth it you become a lawyer, engineer, or health. My sister Is a CRNA and she make 182K a year.

You should have made it business.

Which state is this? The state I live in don't offer such programs.

@@tvu24 North Carolina. Johnston County (borders Wake County/Raleigh). Johnston Community College; Career Technical and Leadership Academy (CTLA).

I enjoyed reading this comment. I’m a STEM major but I enjoy how people are different and do different things in life

I got my CS degree in 2021, somehow got convinced to do a master's in software engineering. Graduate in May with no job offers and a professor telling me to check for jobs overseas 😂

Create your own job offer by starting a company.

@@clearviewproducts I've been contemplating this, but still need to to eat in the meantime. My degrees have gotten me interviews in unrelated fields. I'll probably take one until I figure out where the markets going.

"If you don't practice on your own and follow what the lecturers teach you, you will end up having a degree but not knowing how to double-click." That is what a crème de la crème hands-on former student of the university told us. We already knew anyway. We were highly focused on real world learning. The lectures were just our pastime. We shared practical knowledge freely among ourselves and helped others to succeed academically. We were being investigated on how we were not "serious" yet excelled in the most difficult courses. We never went to the lecturers to explain stuff for us hence we were not "serious". In the last year the lecturers admitted our batch was the best they have seen in decades. All of us got work after the university. I couldn't go to the graduation because I was busy meeting deadlines. I never went for my degree to this day.

@@Chi-cd3ke the same excuses everyone uses to avoid 'life'. If you act like everyone else, you can't expect to stick out from the crowd.

Exactly, you need a degree just to get in the door

I have a B.S. and a master's degree. The best thing about those degrees is it opened doors to career opportunities that otherwise would not have been available.

@@slundgrnah I have associate in business I regret it I ain’t going again I can’t find a job

@@romannavarro1178 I will list some tips I have given students I mentored at my alma mater. Let me know if you have questions. If you want a job, you should be able to get one, but YOU have to hustle. People hire people they can work with and who can be a benefit to their company. It's about what you can do for them, not the other way around. Getting a job is a job itself, and unfortunately they don't teach you how to do that in college. Look for a career, not a job. Go to your JUCO and ask what assistance they can provide to help you get a position in your career field. Talk to your professors. Go to your county's website and ask about job placement assistance. Apply for local, state and government jobs. Go knock on doors and ask to speak to hiring managers (not HR). Don't rely on a resume or online sites to get you a job. Go talk to people. Have a plan for how you are going to get a job doing something you like to do. You may have to start at a lower level and work your way up. I used to did ditches on a natural gas pipeline while going to college. Have you considered the military? There are many fields where you can use your degree and learn a skill that is transferable to the civilian world, and you should be able to go in as an E-3. That means more money to start, more privileges and better chances at promotion and pay raises. Have you written down your goals and what you want to achieve? Goals that are written down are 90% more likely to be achieved than ones that aren't. Go to the library and check out this book, or buy it. Buy the paperback so you can make notes, not the Kindle version. www.amazon.com/What-Color-Your-Parachute-Meaningful-ebook/dp/B09VGC32LN?ref_=ast_author_dp&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.467KXM6hhI4oXRGfULg2CaXmY1quyqzNPuO39-3eBlEy6pOLKUlBOMhmKsd5kBje90f0eSm5f9pE1bTNSPAffvYD8TWRjkxDxHRfBJt4xBNdHEhw39pHaBhsPEKWVix4--gw1BkvQSVXAo5o_KHZrkCielPXDFno6ns_YzL1XdEu5FaP83goCH6ljxZmDA_o8Oyqdnw_VTTZ0smOVPGt_LCiMrueQPXv7NIplQheH08.iIWQ3vyt4iXVyczYTpQJrgE2vfU1KeTcorVcrtuAlT0&dib_tag=AUTHOR

I'm a travel nurse making 140k a year. I have no debt and I only have my associate degree in nursing. some degrees are worth it. In my opinion college is only worth it you become a lawyer, engineer, or health.

They really hooked you .....bad...

@@cwwcww7465 You've never been to university so you wouldn't get it lol. As a physics major, I got to connect to top physicists in the country at the forefront of their field doing research, and networking with them. You also get tons of resources in university to help you get internships and connections. You pretty much get set up for life unless you're in medieval gender queer studies.

can we have a conversation? My major is biology but I’m thinking of starting a business while in college too

"without" any initiative but we knew what you meant.

Exactly!

As a fellow South African, I agree with you. Going to university changed my life for the better. Yes, we have a high unemployment rate and it's terrible, but for our reality in SA, it's vastly different than the US and this side our best shot is still college for the majority of people. Some have a shot with tech skills and portfolios, etc., but our landscape is not like America.

@@SakhileMogale 100% went from Alex to Rondebosch through an honours. only 7% of degree holders are jobless , vs how many dropouts?

No architecture? I applied for business, law, radiography (medical imaging) and architecture. Currently holding law school and architecture school (conditional) offers from schools in UK/HK. I am currently a final year high school senior.

@@michelleenkhsaikhan Architectural design would be a STEM field IMHO. Those are all good fields, and do you need a degree for medical imaging, or can you get that at a trade school? I just don't want to pay for four years of cultural studies or some crap where they can't get a job. Good luck to you. I'd enjoy hearing what you end up doing.

No business. No business at all. Those degrees are suffering too.

You do need to do bachelors of radiography- (for medical imaging) @@slundgr

What's your business about?

I was going to go to college for accounting. But i picked up a job with fidelity for an internship after high school. I always loved math and money. So i applied. And later on became a stock broker making 3k a week managing peoples retirements after one year of being trained 19 an hour at 18 yrs old. And i thought to myself this what i always wanted that easy? All because i got along with the manager. And i hear my friends struggling to get jobs after getting a BS from University. With 200k debt while im working and im only 20 years old.

Cap, there are a ton of accounting jobs out there. Your resume is probably bad or you don’t know how to interview. Accounting is one of the best degrees u can get

@@Kjj1517 You have no idea what you are talking about. You are not even an accountant. Keep reading your bs.

what you talking about, I graduated with accounting degree in 2018 and got a job in industry, theres tons of jobs out there for accountants. Now im a CPA and accounting manager. An accounting degree is guaranteed 6 figures after a couple of years.

@@frank8348 hahahaha

Usually engineering is a good major unlike some of the liberal arts major . What exactly you majored in engineering?

I believe doing an apprenticeship is much more valuable than having a college degree. Imagine you had 4 years of job experience, albeit paying minimum wage for the first two years, rather than doing a bachelor’s. You’ve saved $200K in debt and you have 4 years worth of work experience over someone that just chose to go to college. After you get your first job, nobody cares about your university except to just fill a checkbox.

I can do all of the things you describe and didn't need to goto college/uni and waste valuable time + get myself into debt to acquire those skills. The real critical thinkers are the ones that see it as an inefficient use of time from the beginning.

@@shubhamagarwal9459 There are statistics that can tell you whether an apprenticeship or a degree is more financially beneficial (if money is the only thing that matters to you). There might be some apprenticeships that lead to you earning more than some degrees, but what happens if the trade you apprenticed for falls out of demand? Are the skills and experience transferable to something else? People can also do an apprenticeship and a degree. Having both I suspect covers more bases.