If Labour really care about evidence, then they need to stop talking about 'gender identity' as though it's scientific fact. It's not; it's entirely ideological.
Our media which is mainly owned by types who want to keep the British economy closely linked to USA banks, encouraging people to live in greed and debt, manages to get people to chant the word lefty as an insult, so they support USA capitalism and blame lefties for what USA capitalism causes. Then they keep voting for political parties who cause what they say they dislike, such as melting pot societies and trans children. It's only the USA that has a TV show for the child trans Jazz Jennings, only a USA magazine that made Caitlyn Jenner woman of the year, and now Dylan for the USA sports brand Nike. While the USA promotes diversity and melting pot societies to left wing countries, and all actual left wing countries such as most in north Europe and Scandinavia promote, are free health care, not being in debt with credit cards, houses are homes than for a few greedy people to buy up to make money off others and child environmental activists.
The debate was only toxic because certain trans activists behaved disgracefully. Neither JK Rowling, nor Kathleen Stock, nor Maya Forstater ever behaved with anything less than clarity and calm conviction. They patiently waited for common sense to prevail. Now it has. We are still not there but it is thanks to a host of patient brilliant women that we are returning to sanity.
No it's because both men & women have stood up against this. You seem to forget about all the men standing up for women & girl's rights. Many of us stand up for our mother's, sister's, daughters & granddaughter's & every other natural female!!! It's not men against women it's sensible people against crazy & perverts !!!!!!
Can't you give credit to these women who suffered persecution and abuse for their views? I was one of the people who saw how idiotic the whole thing was from the start but have the modesty to admit that what I went through was nothing in comparison to what these brave women did. Do you understand what these three women went through at all? Did you suffer for your views? I do know one man who did and that's Graham Lineham and I give him credit too.
Yep exactly - why the f were any of them listening to the views of activists and using that as a basis for medical intervention to begin with is the bigger question we need answers to considering there are numerous qualified doctors they should have been referring to. They need to stop taking in the opinions of groups such as stonewall who don't give a damn about anything but what they want for themselves - it's not the same organisation that it was, it's just clinging to any semblance of relevance at this point.
I did something I tend not to do and advise others not to. I Googled a health issue from a reputable medical website. I was Googling about a post-menopausal women's issue. I don't know why but I was shocked to read on this particular website in the article, "person w/ a vagina". We have already seen the erasure of the straight white male (or, heaven forbid if you are one nowadays). We are now witnessing the erasure of women. I'm happy to see the push back against the trans agenda.
If they want to be liable for all the medical malpractice lawsuits, many of which are already in the world, be NY guest. But we all know who is going to pay for all the damage this will cause, the NHS and the tax payer, the vast majority of which don't agree with these policies..
If you want to know just how low and depressing a time we are at right now just remember we are seriously having to remind people there are 2 genders and not to give children drugs that will permanently destroy their body. And if anyone dares say the children chose it I would remind people that children won't know any better, they will just follow whatever adults tell them.
The government are supposed to speak for the people but they just speak for themselves This is just one reason why people feel disenchanted with politics and politicians
Lisa Nandy (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="108">1:48</a>) thinks the debate over gender identity ideology has become polarised and toxic? Who was it who signed a pledge in 2020 calling women’s rights group Women’s Place UK a ‘trans-exclusionist hate group’ without providing any evidence of hate speech or actions from this group? Errr, it was Lisa Nandy. Maybe the first step to de-toxifying the debate would be for Ms Nandy to apologise to WPUK, not for her to lecture others?
The media gets people to chant lefty as an insult so they support USA capitalism and blame lefties for what USA capitalism causes, so they keep voting for political parties who cause what they say they dislike, as Tories want Britain to be like the USA. It's only the USA that has a TV show for the child trans Jazz Jennings, only a USA magazine that made Caitlyn Jenner woman of the year, and now Dylan for the USA sports brand Nike. While the USA say they won't make female gen ital mutilation illegal and many USA women tell men they prefer them to not have a foreskin, so their penis end becomes calloused and less sensitive. The men then spend all day online trying to take out their issues from having less sensitivity on women and spread their sick culture to other countries. It's why the USA has so many men banned from other countries for making websites encouraging men abuse women while travelling. USA shouldn't be allowed to call itself a western nation while they make mutilating children preferable. While all actual left wing countries such as most in Scandinavia promote, are free health care, not being in debt with credit cards, houses are homes than for a few greedy people to buy up to make money off others and child environmental activists.
We DO know about the side effects of puberty blocker from their use in precocious puberty. They are marginally less awful than the condition they are used for.
@@ExpendableRedshirt yes there is evidence which is why the NHS in England changed its practice on how long they are willing to prescribe it for in regard to precocious puberty. If you wish you can search for the NICE guidelines.
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They will follow the science, unless it doesn't say what they want when they will re interpret or change the science to fit their ideology. The BMA are already trying to U turn on it.
Nice to see Lisa making an effort, though a natural smile occasionally would be welcome. Hats off to J.K. Rowling, a beacon of light and critical thinking.
Nandy shows her bias though by calling these children 'trans children'. A child with dysphoria or a confusion regarding their sexed bodies has always real underlying psychiatric causes, Cass pointed to pornography as being a big issue in why girls are developing dysphoric feelings, and the part of social media. In addition there has been mass marketing since the GRA came in.
Sorry. I can’t respect Nandys opinion on this when she has spent literally years not bothering to investigate this topic, and has in fact parrotted the TRA line. Now she wants to speak about the Cass review and Streeting’s decision as though the pair of them haven’t spent the last few years denouncing gender critical concerns.
The conversion therpay is exaclty what has been happening..when the medical professionals are taking children through a non exploratory verbal therapy and just supporting their views and then allowing them to access medical invasive operations is the WORST form of conversation therapy. How to make a gay kid straight?
I never understood what transition has to do with not being gay anymore? You are born with your sexuality, just as you are born with your sex. If anyone has plastic surgery to look different, doesn‘t change their gayness….right?!
@@lynnm6413because if a young lesbian transitions to male, she can call herself a straight man. She can live in that denial and people will support it and even call it self love and being yourself.
@@Abi-kk4nl I know, it‘s ridiculous….! Talk about being homophobic to the 9th degree…neither accepting your biology nor your sexuality! And these folks want ME to believe THEY are living ‘their TRUTH’! 🫣🤔
@@lynnm6413 that bugs me as a lesbian. So you are tagging on transgender people and them trying to escape into another identity into " loving and ACCEPTING YOURSELF, and being your true self" ugh no, that's for gay people, what they are doing is the opposite of that...
The problem with that is puberty blockers are used for children who go into puberty too early at too young an age, but they are not used over long term.
It‘s called precocious puberty, and even in this instance it is being used less and only in severe cases because of the damage these blockers cause. Originally, GnRH analogs were used in prostate cancer treatment, a cancer where long term consequences of drugs are negligible because most patients die rather quickly.
I am not waiting with bated breath for this to happen as they all talk out the side of their mouths...its not just puberty blockers, the therapies are still ongoing..they only closed the bloody clinic. As for lisa nandy she needs to be educated in biology. Slightly disappointed at JK to back them this early on.
Puberty is a time of self discovery, experimentation, uncertainty and hormone chaos, it is not a time to be medically altering a child's adolescence. Mental health support until they are of legal age is the way to go. Protect children from themselves and social media pressure.
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Puberty blockers do just that. Most kids who start puberty blockers will eventually decide not to continue with their transition. The treatment is stopped and for the vast majority, they will go through puberty and live their lives as the sex they were at birth. A few though do decide that transition is the right thing for them. Puberty blockers give the children, their doctors and parents time to assess how they really feel and make an informed decision. This is a good thing.
It’s probably one of the only things I will support Labour on. Plus it’s funny seeing the Labour MPs losing their minds over it but then that reaction shows which ones support child abuse.
I was very dismissive of Hillary Cass adopting the trans activist vocabulary in her report. I have to admit though she appears to have succeeded walking quite a tightrope on this.
She shows no evidence of harm from Puberty blockers and does not even assess the harm of restricting trans-affirming treatment. Your first assessment was right she hit every single one of the anti-trans lobbies talking points with not one shred of evidence to support them.
She had to so they didn't take to the streets to defend their much-cherished sexual rights. Cass is watertight and she treats them courteously. That's why they've got no recourse but dishonesty and boring people to tears. They can't even legitimately call her a terf without lying cos a real terf calls them what they really are (I daresay she does at home tho)
Trans communities claim not to have been consulted at all. Autism is not a mental illness. It is a pervasive developmental difference. It is essential that trans people and their organizations are consulted, and that those who have reversed their transition are consulted in Labour's consultation process.
Kids need reasured no drugs or surgeries or blockers .they are kids...adults need to realise that kids just dont do dangerous life changing indoctering ...they need not over think there develooement into a normal adult ..not wotk of feeling work on facts
A good question. Unfortunately, I don't know the answer. If not puberty blockers, hormones after 18? I actually agree w/ 18+. I know that my late step-Son didn't want his daughter, who, at 11 changed her name to a male specific name and started to dress as a boy, thought that 18 was the age for his daughter to make such a serious decision.
@@Hector-bj3lshowever the left keep spreading misinformation claiming they CAN switch puberty on and off when they want and there’s no side effects from blockers and long term hormone use, and they threaten any detransitioner who tries to speak up and say they’re now SEEING the side effects.
My little prediction......if Labour does not improve its policies on indigenous British women JK will stop donating and look at other parties who enshrine the rights of Britsh indigenous women.
So let's get this straight; There is no evidence that puberty blockers cause harm, Streeting admits this and not even Cass shows evidence for that. And we know that, when trans-affirming care was restricted in the U.K. in 2020, suicides among trans children jumped from one in the previous seven years, to sixteen in the three years since. So Streeting decides to ignore the lack of evidence of harm from the use of puberty blockers and the clear evidence of harm caused by restricting trans affirming care? In other words he has chosen the path that will guarantee more children will die. How is this decision rational in any way? As deaths mount up this will come back to bite Labour hard.
Unfortunately there is evidence that puberty blockers are not fully reversible and do cause damage. The majority of our bone density is laid down during puberty. Block puberty and it inhibits bone density development leading to weak bones. Current evidence is showing that this does not recover to levels when natural puberty occurs. The Head of WPATH Marcie Bowers is on video footage sharing that no child administered puberty blockers before Tanner Stage 2 of puberty ever experiences orgasm, yet this was omitted from their latest guidance. It is unknown the full extent of the effects on brain development. Further evidence is the fact that children who have their puberty blocked to not develop adult sized genitalia. This has meant later surgeries to create replica external genitalia of the opposite sex is very complicated and the techniques are highly experimental with even higher levels of serious complication and lifelong implications for adult sexual function. I would urge you to research this information.