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“China in World War II: New History; New Perspectives for Today" by Richard B. Frank 

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For years prior to the globe-shattering events of World War II, relations between Japan and China simmered until the brutal Japanese invasion in 1937. Spanning eight years, the conflict catapulted China to prominence on the world stage as Chinese fighters helped to defeat the Imperial Japanese Army. As a U.S. Army Veteran and historian with expertise in the Pacific Theater, Mr. Frank will apply new evidence accumulated during his research for his upcoming Asia-Pacific War trilogy to shed light on the eight-year skirmish with Japan. The new information, uncovered by scholars in the past two decades, reshapes the conventional narrative of the “War of Resistance” as China’s role in World War II. Mr. Frank’s lecture will address China’s participation in World War II, how that history influences Chinese views of the world, and how an understanding of China’s actual contributions during the war may help inform the United States’ current views of the country.
Lecture Date: August 7, 2014
Length: 70 Minutes

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Комментарии : 46   
@steadyjumper3547
@steadyjumper3547 2 года назад
Sadly this lecture is still relevant. Despite the popularity of ww2 in media and culture there still a complete lack of awareness of anything that went on in China during ww2.
@almurdock1734
@almurdock1734 7 лет назад
A clear and formative presentation by a well-informed scholar.
@real_Leo_Chang
@real_Leo_Chang 6 лет назад
China still has not forgotten the lack of acknowledgement by the Western Allies for its contributions in WW2, especially in the Pacific theater. They still have not forgiven the atrocities done to their civilians by Imperial Japan. (unlike the Jews in Europe)
@henktwerda291
@henktwerda291 5 лет назад
The Communst government of China did for a long time stimulate this kind of downplaying China’s role in Worldwar 2, because they wanted to downplay the Nationalist contribution to the survival of China as long as they were seen as rivals for the rule of China.
@johnlin5449
@johnlin5449 3 года назад
As a well educated Chinese, not like the western propaganda described and said,I must insist, the young one should be understand the true history,that owing to a long time(almost one hundred years) colonized by British Empire, France and the United States, the poor country with inadequate military equipment the Chinese troops were hard to defeat the Fascism Japanese Empire's invaded at the very beginning since 1931(the invade Manchu war) and this situation last many years to defeat the enemy alone. In the mean time, with the policy of appeasement 綏靖政策the British Empire, France and the United States, even the Soviet Union were also ignored the Fascism Japanese Empire's invasion to China, that's why the Fascism Japanese Empire indulged and dared to enlarge their occupied degree.The Chinese people sacrificed volume would surely exceed ten or twenty million lives in this anti-Japanese invade war and the war period turn out totally lasts 14years.
@websitemartian
@websitemartian 2 месяца назад
@@johnlin5449wasnt there us volunteers fighting the japs by air before ww2 started ?
@exilfromsanity
@exilfromsanity 7 лет назад
When are you people going to hire a competent audio technician?
@yliang1688
@yliang1688 8 лет назад
Most of the educated and people with a heart in the world will appreciated very much your great efforts and contribution on the humanity and the horrible WARs that kills millions and millions of innocent human-beings. Thanks.
@Bj-yf3im
@Bj-yf3im 6 лет назад
A very informative lecture that gives points worthy of adding to our high school history curriculum!
@wolfu597
@wolfu597 Год назад
Great lecture, my only problem is the low sound when Frank speaks.
@andrewdolokhov5408
@andrewdolokhov5408 6 лет назад
A great lecture marred by sound problems. Barbara Tuchman seemed to be in love with Joseph Stilwell in her book "Stillwell and the American Experience in China". Her books on WWI, "The Guns of August" and "The Proud Tower" were great, but her China book was the NY Times version----which was extremely suspect in dealing with events that at all dealt with Communists.
@---jc7pi
@---jc7pi 8 лет назад
I would be interested in his assessment of Bill Slim's strategic outlook. He said all the air route and the new roads. He said the major effort should be to recapture Rangoon because that would open a road that was much more efficient then all the other options. He would have been far faster in doing this if all the US resource had gone to his effort.
@blackdiamond51
@blackdiamond51 3 года назад
Incredible information. Too bad he didn't use a teleprompter. So many times I had to rewind when he'd look down at his notes thereby talking to the podium instead of the microphone.
@pagarb
@pagarb Год назад
A great presentation of the most significant events and personalities in China during WW2.
@uk4717
@uk4717 2 года назад
Operation Ichi-Go is an operation conducted by the Japanese Army on the Chinese mainland from April 17th to December 10th, 1944 during the Sino-Japanese War. It was the last major offensive of the Japanese Army, which caused the National Revolutionary Army to be hit hard and affected during the Chinese Civil War. However, on the other hand, the United States is also mediating the conclusion of the Double Tenth Agreement with Chiang Kai-shek in order to avoid a civil war. According to a study by Barbara W. Tuchman, the results of this operation had a more significant impact on the subsequent war situation than the Japanese had imagined, and had a decisive impact on Japan's fate. According to it, Franklin Roosevelt has consistently strongly trusted and supported Chiang Kai-shek since the beginning of the war, and encouraged him in the war against Japan so that he would not drop out of the Allies in a single peace with Japan during the Cairo Conference. However, he said that he changed his mind because the front of Chiang Kai-shek collapsed due to this operation. In fact, Chiang Kai-shek has not been invited to important Allied conferences ("Yalta Conference" and "Potsdam Conference") since then. According to the Stilwell document, Roosevelt said, "Can China win?" Stilwell said, "There is no choice but to eliminate Chiang Kai-shek." During the 1944 Hengyang battle, he could not sleep at night and twice. He says he thought about suicide. The American side also planned to assassinate Chiang Kai-shek, and three methods of "poisoning", "aircraft incident", and "pretending to be suicide" were considered, but it was canceled in 1944 due to changes in the international situation such as Burma. The successor that the United States envisioned is Sun Fountain. As Roosevelt's Chief of Staff George Marshall and General Joseph Stilwell have long insisted, Chiang Kai-shek's army is actually a demoralized and corrupt organization that does not form an army. It became clear that he had no desire or ability to fight with the United States and other Allied forces. As a result, President Roosevelt changed the scenario of the operation against Japan from the conventional bombing of Japan and other countries from the air bases of mainland China to the one that MacArthur and others claimed to occupy the islands of the Pacific Ocean one after another. China was dismissed at the Yalta Conference, and the Allied nation's footsteps were disturbed, with angry Chiang Kai-shek presenting a peace plan to Japan against the will of the United States. The Japanese Operation Ichi-Go attack left the National Revolutionary Army with 750,000 casualties. This caused the Kuomintang to lose to the Communist Party in the civil war. China would not have been dominated by the dictatorship Communist Party if it had made peace with Japan and cooperated in protecting it from communism.
@alexmercer4472
@alexmercer4472 5 лет назад
remember history
@robertb4563
@robertb4563 Год назад
Don't get the parable at the beginning
@AdamMisnik
@AdamMisnik 7 месяцев назад
Excellent talk. The Chinese deserve way more credit for what they endured during WWII. I believe that he is way too hard on Stillwell. He forgets that his mission was to get the Chinese to contribute to the defeat of Japan and not just sit there until America defeated Japan for them. Stillwell's failure in North Burma in 1942 had as much due to the convoluted Chinese command structure that made his orders merely strongly worded suggestions as any failure in his assessment of the situation. The only offensive Chinese success of the war was under Stillwell in North Burma in 1944. It should also be noted that it was a grossly under-resourced operation that succeeded anyway. The speaker ignores Chiang's support for Chenault and the B-29's over Stillwell's plans and that Stillwell called out the likely outcome of that decision long before the Japanese launched their Ichi-Go offensive. I believe he gives misleading figures on the supplies over the Hump versus the Ledo Road. The figures are not for the Hump route over the Himalayas but the lower altitude and shorter route over North Burma that was cleared by Stillwell to open the Ledo Road. It also doesn't take into account that even though the Ledo Road had a lower volume than the Lower Hump route, it cost less in supplies to use it. Ideally the Burma Road being re-opened through Rangoon should have been the priority but the British didn't believe it was worth the effort. The biggest problem with assigning Stillwell to this mission wasn't his ability as a General but his ability as a Diplomat. Anyone whose nick name is "Vinegar Joe" is most likely going to be an "anti-Eisenhower". He was not going to do well with a fascist dictator whose greatest successes were largely due to his opponents' limitations and not his own ability. This was demonstrated in his defense at Shanghai, against the Ichi-Go offensive and it also shouldn't be forgotten that Chiang lost the Civil War shortly after the defeat of Japan. His insights as a military commander and political leader didn't hold up well when he faced a Communist opponent that he didn't massively out number and could massively out spend.
@2001lextalionis
@2001lextalionis 4 месяца назад
Thank you for posting this. There is palpable dislike for Stillwell in some communities that I believe stem from the current state of affairs in East Asia. The data on truck tonnage is a good indicator as the author admits, "China needed trucks". If they needed trucks then supplying them is part of an assistance program. Chennault's AVG operated an air force run out of the Whitehouse. I've been to the airfield in Guilin and seen how Chinese labor built the runways. Amazing. It was a zero sum game between the AVG and Stillwell getting the leftovers sent to other theaters of war. Further let us remember that Stillwell understood Chinese and did not require translators to converse with the failing Nationalist government. As the author mentioned the German chief of staff and Chiang used to converse in Japanese. What is often glossed over is that Stillwell hated the Japanese especially since he had visited the country before the war and had hands on experience. He was a professional soldier and did what was asked of him. He wanted to defeat the Chinese armies and felt that spending on supporting the army was the best way to achieve that.
@vivianoosthuizen8990
@vivianoosthuizen8990 3 года назад
The damn microphone is too high so with the guy reading his looking down resulting in terrible audio. Is there not something that can be done to correct this because the knowledge contained I this video is very important
@TheDavidlloydjones
@TheDavidlloydjones 2 года назад
If you are going to record something for publication on RU-vid, do not film it in front of a hard, reflecting backboard. The echo off the wall behind this speaker is really, really unpleasant -- and the guy seems competent and sensible, so it's a pity to so detract from his work.
@dennismcfarland7817
@dennismcfarland7817 6 лет назад
Mr. Frank is doubtless a brilliant man and his talk ( as much of it as I could make out ) containing a wealth of excellent information but this man desperately needs to hone his public speaking skills. If he must read his presentation, that's OK if the text is strong ( and his was ) , but speak directly to the microphone as you do it.
@NVRAMboi
@NVRAMboi 6 лет назад
Thank you. A new microphone strategy would be extremely helpful for such an extensive and at times rapidly spoken presentation.
@blackdiamond51
@blackdiamond51 3 года назад
A teleprompter would have gone a long way so he need not look down at his notes thereby speaking away from the microphone. Very disruptive of a brilliant lecture when I have to rewind over and over.
@JCResDoc94
@JCResDoc94 6 лет назад
11:44 predicting a world war & new global allies
@Sphere723
@Sphere723 7 лет назад
Never knew the Himalayas were 4,500 km high.
@Bj-yf3im
@Bj-yf3im 6 лет назад
Sphere723 😂😂😂
@henktwerda291
@henktwerda291 5 лет назад
Brilliant lecture. China deserves more credit for its part in defeating Japan and thereby preventing Hitler’s victory. One question, though. Why did the Alies not make a road and railway from British India to China through Sinkiang?
@citytianyu
@citytianyu 5 лет назад
The first fact is that the neighboring China province of British India isn't SinKang but Yunan. The second fact is that the terrain there is super difficult to build infrastructure. The third is that the Japanese army was always threatening the route in South Asia.
@henktwerda291
@henktwerda291 5 лет назад
Sinkiang borders Kashmir and Kashmir was part of British India. most of the disputed area of Aksai Chin is adminitered by China as part of Sinkiang. Today there is a road from Sinkiang through the Pakistani part of Kashmir to thecoast of Pakistan.
@citytianyu
@citytianyu 5 лет назад
That's true but It's on the other side, and they weren't able to deliver anything through the desert.
@taoliu3949
@taoliu3949 4 года назад
@@henktwerda291 First of all, Sinkiang was under spurious control. The Warlord sheng Shicai in charge of the province was in effect a Soviet puppet. Second, the road through that pass is even tougher than the roads through Burma, not to mention it requires routing through the mountains and plateaus of Qinghai which is right next to a not so friendly Tibet. Third, the distance is huge, the thought of making that work is just disgusting. That said, the Hump ended up flying more supplies than the Burma road ended up moving. Keep in mind the Burma road wasnt lost until 1942/43. There is no need to route everything through Qinghai if its expectant to retake control of the Burma road
@2001lextalionis
@2001lextalionis 4 месяца назад
I think the simple answer to the question of British motives in India stem to their imperial strategy to extract everything of value from the subcontinent. All roads lead to the sea. As to the American effort, they were very heavily involved in training and arming the Chinese forces in modern day Myanmar. I found it interesting the author didn't even mention this as its well documented the state of Chinese forces flying out of China to join Stillwell's army in SE Asia.
@pneto8472
@pneto8472 5 лет назад
He should speak louder
@franciscoreveriano1818
@franciscoreveriano1818 6 лет назад
The speaker is very well informed. There is no lie about that. But he is very monotonic. Making it hard to pay attention.
@chainoad
@chainoad 7 лет назад
This is not a speaker. This is a reader. A bad one at that. A good lecture though.
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